Well, thank you for telling us about the "various things" and "alot of factors." I feel so informed. How about a good-faith 1% payment or something, anything.
1. Do you not feel like you are asking too much from a person who just had their operation tear down in front of them? 2. HK could have easily up and run but instead is showing a good-faith effort to pay everyone back. 1. He lied to depositors about risk 2. Pirate made the same amount of effort hashking has. I'll just write this one off as a loss this week. I never lied about risk, my statement showed where the funds were going. Please show where I lied about risk. This was in the original post. The funds for the deposits will be used for lending out to other borrowers, investing in more mining equipment, bitcoin projects and other investments offered on the forum How about "guaranteed" and "withdrawals will be processed in 24 hours"?
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I bet there will be a repeat of the pirate-default. A lot of FUD and then nothing.
Exactly. What will happen when Matt doesn't pay? Nothing at all. And THAT is his lesson to the community. So the lesson is that people can scam this community without fearing any consequences. No, the lesson is don't be stupid with your money [...] ... because there are no consequences for scamming. If you want to pay someone to protect you with charge back functionality, let me direct you to some of these fabulous services. https://www.paypal.com/http://www.mastercard.com/index.htmlhttp://usa.visa.com/index.htmlNo, not charge-backs. Think about it for a minute. If you were my next-door neighbor, would you scam me?
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Rampant speculation: -Matt had a lot of PPT bonds -This bet was merely an attempt to pump their value back up to 50% before he sold them off.
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Well, thank you for telling us about the "various things" and "alot of factors." I feel so informed. How about a good-faith 1% payment or something, anything.
1. Do you not feel like you are asking too much from a person who just had their operation tear down in front of them? 2. HK could have easily up and run but instead is showing a good-faith effort to pay everyone back. 1. He lied to depositors about risk 2. Pirate made the same amount of effort hashking has. I'll just write this one off as a loss this week.
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I bet there will be a repeat of the pirate-default. A lot of FUD and then nothing.
Exactly. What will happen when Matt doesn't pay? Nothing at all. And THAT is his lesson to the community. So the lesson is that people can scam this community without fearing any consequences. No, the lesson is don't be stupid with your money [...] ... because there are no consequences for scamming.
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Scammer tag please. Who knows where he lives?
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Hashking, we need more information. Don't pull this "bag of air" tactic on us with empty posts, vague information, and stalling. Either default and run away, so I can absorb my losses and move on, or let us know up-front what the deal is.
If you read my announcement, then you would know what the deal is. Please go back and read it again. I almost feel like you guys want me to run. I will currently be suspending all interest payments and withdrawals. As I receive coins from the various things that I have going on I will start sending people's principal back. I will also be purchasing coins from my personal funds. Interest that has been paid out will be deducted from the current principal. The reason for this is I would like to get everyone's principal back before anyone receives anymore interest. I am not able to give a timeframe on the repayment as there is alot of factors that can effect it. I know for sure it won't be weeks or months, but more then likely in the ballpark of 3 years.
Well, thank you for telling us about the "various things" and "alot of factors." I feel so informed. How about a good-faith 1% payment or something, anything.
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I have not been paid.
Ditto. I'll give it an hour. Hopefully theymos is on the scammer tag business and we can go find his house.
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Hashking, we need more information. Don't pull this "bag of air" tactic on us with empty posts, vague information, and stalling. Either default and run away, so I can absorb my losses and move on, or let us know up-front what the deal is.
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Well, I can't say that the most successful bitcoin ventures haven't consisted of hacking, stealing and defrauding people. It's easy, risk free and extremely lucrative. Kind of too good to be true. If it's true and people don't find a way to make it more risky (find and punish some of the criminals, for instance), I guess Bitcoin would constitute a negative sum game in which all honest participants lose. I wonder how long such a thing could last. Its pretty much dead for me now for that reason. Im not interested in promoting a system where the richest people are scammers and my efforts go towards making them richer. I may as well use fiat in that case Litecoin at least doesnt have one scammer with 2.5% of all the coins in existence. Sorry to hear you feel that way. I wish I had any arguments to convince you and myself otherwise. We need to drop the 'anonymity' part. You wouldn't send PayPal to some guy whose name you don't know offering 7% per week, an insane hedging opportunity, etc. Even an unregulated market doesn't mean there should be no consequences for fraud. Mob lending is unregulated, but they still have club-guys, a clear fraud deterrent.
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- On an offline computer, generate thousands of privkey/address pairs
- Transfer the addresses to your server
- When requesting payment, present a new address to the customer
- Verify payment using bitcoind, blockchain.info's API, or blockexplorer.com's API
Un-hackable! - Place a sell order for 100000 BTC at 0.01 USD on MtGox
- Forward customer's coins to your MtGox deposit address
Near-instant BTC sales without being charged Bit-Pay's commission! You lost me at that "place a sell order" part. What is that supposed to do? Or is that a joke? ?? As you deposit coins into your MtGox account, the sell order will automatically match them with the highest bid until your account is out of coins. It's like BitPay, but without the 3% commission.
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I feel like if PatrickHarnett was running a Ponzi, he'd have disappeared by now. He's been returning coins by the hundreds and has closed out new deposits.
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According to popular opinion, that guy with the HungerCoin thing is more trustworthy than PatrickHarnett.
Okey-dokey then.
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Please PM me an offer. Thanks.
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is not encrypted rugmi.i//:ptth
these are the first 14 letters (in chronological order). I guess the link is split in multiple parts
you have it backwards
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Obviously I would prefer the open society, but it seems a rather odd dichotomy to me; neither of those extremes will persist for long.
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Background: I see AnCap as a possibility, but I'm not educated enough on the subject to resolve a few problems I perceive in it.
1. How are reparations collected? If you pop my tire, but don't want to pay for a new one, how do I get the money from you?
2. Common Defense and Leeches: It's all fine to think "everyone will chip in because it's in their best interest to have military protection," but there's a Tragedy of the Commons problem there: "I'll avoid chipping in to maximize my own personal wealth and hope that everyone else chips in."
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- On an offline computer, generate thousands of privkey/address pairs
- Transfer the addresses to your server
- When requesting payment, present a new address to the customer
- Verify payment using bitcoind, blockchain.info's API, or blockexplorer.com's API
Un-hackable! - Place a sell order for 100000 BTC at 0.01 USD on MtGox
- Forward customer's coins to your MtGox deposit address
Near-instant BTC sales without being charged Bit-Pay's commission!
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Swiss cheese is fine. Fungus is fine. Photoshopped holes in people's skin is disgusting.
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