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1081  Economy / Securities / Re: [CRYPTOSTOCKS] Private loan pass-through (WIT), Dividend up to 1.2% daily on: September 27, 2012, 02:09:00 AM
Week 1 - Ponzi Analysis
Total dividend   Number of shares   Dividend per share
3.21367560      696                         0.00461735 BTC
Ponzi Profit:
696 * 0.1 - 3.2 = 66.4 BTC

Shares issued since last dividend: 393
Total Profit: 105.7 BTC
1082  Economy / Securities / Re: Suggestion to security issuers: Sell in bulk, have somebody else distribute. on: September 27, 2012, 02:02:42 AM
For instance, if you're starting a mining company or whatever, you can just sell your shares in bulk packages at a discount to other people. Then rely on those people to sell them on exchanges like the GLBSE, MPEX and Cryptostocks.

I recommend this because I don't think it's wise to rely on any single exchange but the issuers themselves.

"Not relying on exchanges." I've been hearing that a lot lately.

The idea of exchange-independent, yet somehow verifiable securities is really hot right now. Wonder why.
Maybe because Nefario has been acting stubborn, childish, and has lost people money; MPEX looks really shitty and shares its domain name with child porn; cryptostocks is a pile of ponzi schemes, and Open Transactions has yet to be bootstrapped (issuers want customers; customers want issuers).

The judicious use of the semicolon in this post was done intentionally; the author believes it to be correct.
1083  Economy / Securities / Re: Done with GLBSE on: September 27, 2012, 01:58:36 AM
Yes, it makes sense to us rational people. However I think the only way they will agree on anything is if they pay for an arbitrator.
1084  Economy / Speculation / Re: 1DkyBEKt5S2GDtv7aQw6rQepAvnsRyHoYM on: September 27, 2012, 01:48:55 AM
1)  this is the god damn pirate wallet, 90%+ confidence.

2)  built this year, starting right when his scam was ramping up

3) died when the scam died

4)  rule out Gox / Silk Road, and it's only Pirate left:
4a)   SR does 22M in business per year, profits about 1M, and is likely quickly converted to USD
4b)  Gox isn't that stupid, wouldn't build a 500kBTC wallet (that's 5% of ALL btc) and this is not how a Gox cold storage wallet would look (why is it built in weekly / monthly regular headshots? only during this yr?  ending with a super-launder?)

It's Trendon   

Re. 4a) This doesn't need to be SR's profits.  It's just the BTC they're currently holding.  Customers deposit BTC at SR then trade them with sellers.  While the BTC are on the site, they need to keep them safe.  Hence the use of this offline wallet.  Since the address became public knowledge they've split the contents up into several smaller addresses to avoid scrutiny.

Re. the other points, that's useless circumstantial evidence and doesn't prove anything.

It's SR.

Evidence is compelling.

Besides, if Pirate kept his booty in bitcoin, he likely wouldn't have more than 100,000ish; most of his deposits were imaginary.
Are we STILL talking about this? SR deposit -> 1-hop to the 1Dky wallet. End of story.
1085  Economy / Securities / Re: Done with GLBSE on: September 27, 2012, 01:46:28 AM
Nefario and Goat need to use judge.me. Submit to arbitration and be done with it. They even accept Bitcoin.

How I see it:
Nefario is being stubborn and singing "la la la" with hands over his ears while Goat tells him about the double-spend problem and general fraud problem with the idiotic "code" system.

Goat is being stubborn and singing "la la la" with hands over his ears while refusing to agree to anything.

Nefario should come up with a better system than the damn codes, and Goat should help him come up with this system.

But I'm not a paid arbitrator.
1086  Economy / Securities / Re: [CPA] [NYAN] [BMF] The Wind Changes Direction -- are you prepared? on: September 26, 2012, 12:25:40 AM
lol
1087  Economy / Securities / Re: TYGRR.* assets on GLBSE delisted. on: September 25, 2012, 11:51:15 PM
Wow. Thanks to Nefario's behavior, I'm leaving GLBSE. Thanks to MPOE-PR's behavior, I'm never touching MPEX. And cryptostocks lists nothing worth investing in.

 Sad
1088  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: ♔ RUSTYRYAN's 3.0% Weekly Term Deposits ♔ on: September 25, 2012, 08:36:35 PM
Is anyone surprised?
I dont mind people starting loans but come on on, 7 posts and you allready go out and offer interest. o_0
PONZI SCAM.  Stay away from this one.
Post history looks extremely scammy.
1089  Economy / Speculation / Re: OK I bought 1,000,000 Bitcoins... now what? on: September 25, 2012, 01:42:06 AM
The current moving Bitcoin economy could probably survive using a single Bitcoin.

That depends if you count the investments and savings floating around. I'd say the actual 'hot' coins that are being actively sent around could probably scrape by on one coin.

i'm making a bitcoin fork

infinite divisibility
supply will start with 1 coin which i will sell of at the exchange
mining will only get reward with fees

 Cheesy

Actually, I'm pretty curious how you would go about making it infinitely divisible. Obviously, you could get pretty far, but infinite is a lot.

No, I wasn't kidding, I'm curious as a programmer.

look up varint
But if RAM + HDD isn't enough bytes, you still won't be able to do it. Infinity is a lot to store on a finite working set. Wink

(I would try to create a transaction worth 0.000000031415926535897932384626... and just calculate pi as the tx is generated Tongue)
1090  Economy / Speculation / Re: 1DkyBEKt5S2GDtv7aQw6rQepAvnsRyHoYM on: September 25, 2012, 01:30:36 AM
Oh ffs guys. Getting on SR is DEAD SIMPLE. If you don't believe dooglus' analysis or my post from PAGE 4 OF THIS THREAD then do your own goddamn experiment and post the results Roll Eyes

Exactly, if you don't believe dropt, why not just check the SR yourself?

I made a withdrawal from SR myself just the other day, and posted the address here. That's the easy part.

Now I (or someone) will have to find the time to compile znort's tool and do the taint analysis.

dropt didn't do that. He firebugged a screenshot. (I could be wrong here. up to him to prove it.)

I'm interested in actual truth about 1Dky. not endless banter "its pirate!" or "its SR!". and not fake screenshots.
It's a damn shame you didn't do so before SR stopped using 1Dky. I am a happy man, because I know for a fact that I wasn't lying to myself, and it would be pretty hard for dooglus to lie to me because the payments are embedded in the blockchain for all eternity.
1091  Economy / Securities / Re: Looking for reliable security to invest in. on: September 25, 2012, 01:25:22 AM
You're gonna lose your coins Smiley
The only way to avoid this is to use BTC for escrowed or high-trust / low-value transactions only; never give your coins long-term to an exchange, deposit-taker, website, etc.

That said, why not buy COGNITIVE? A mining company owned by a teenager, and I trust it more than MPEX.
1092  Economy / Securities / Re: A risk/reward analysis of insured pirate: YARR, PPT.X, GIPPT, Hashking, Goat on: September 25, 2012, 01:22:17 AM
Bump for Goat's upcoming bond

I just found this thread. Very interesting.

Smiley
Those investors who correctly judged counterparty risk and read this thread have not lost any money.

Edit: all the images are gone, but that shouldn't be a problem since there is virtually no BTC lending economy right now...
More math is available upon request
1093  Economy / Speculation / Re: 1DkyBEKt5S2GDtv7aQw6rQepAvnsRyHoYM on: September 24, 2012, 04:57:47 AM
Oh ffs guys. Getting on SR is DEAD SIMPLE. If you don't believe dooglus' analysis or my post from PAGE 4 OF THIS THREAD then do your own goddamn experiment and post the results Roll Eyes
1094  Other / Meta / Re: What's in a scammer tag? on: September 23, 2012, 01:49:39 AM
Scenario 2 is not a scam. Someone said he would pay 1% interest on the money you send him and instead he just send back your money after one year. How the hell is this a scam?
Now the reason becomes apparent. "Someone" was basically borrowing at 100% weekly interest, and defaulted on the interest. Money has what we call "time value," and scenario 2 is a theft of time value.
1095  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: glbse fees on: September 23, 2012, 01:40:05 AM
GLBSE fees have always made perfect sense to me; they're set up the way they are to encourage liquidity.

If you buy an asset at the 'ask' price, thus taking that ask order off the books, you pay a fee. If you sell an order at the 'bid' price, you pay a fee. If you put a limit order ON the books, increasing liquidity, you won't pay a fee even when someone matches your order.

I almost never pay fees.
1096  Other / Off-topic / Re: I came up with an interesting business model. on: September 23, 2012, 01:33:39 AM
I place $20 in a box.

So do you.

Now the box contains $40, and we both know it.

I sell the box to you for $30.

And we both walk away with a $10 profit.
You almost got me.
1097  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: GLBSE 2.0 open for testing on: September 23, 2012, 01:29:44 AM
Can we get history added to the API please? Basically the js array included in the HTML; one for trades and one for dividends. It would make graphing things like
Price + Total Dividends - IPO Price
easier.
1098  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: GLBSE - request for next features on: September 23, 2012, 01:06:00 AM
Allowing people to place multiple bids with the same BTC results in lots of what I see as spam orders, it's happened every time I've allowed it.
What's wrong with spam orders? Just the graph? That's been useless forever. Other than spam orders that already mess up the graph, there's nothing wrong with them. They'll either get auto-removed or filled by a seller, which makes them real orders.
1099  Economy / Goods / Re: Accepting BTC for surplus technology on: September 22, 2012, 05:16:45 PM

Can you post some pics and quotes?

Thanks.

Please please PLEASE search for 'motor' on the inventory page and link what you are interested in. Pics have already been taken, and a rule of thumb price attached.
ok thanks
1100  Economy / Goods / Re: Accepting BTC for surplus technology on: September 22, 2012, 04:10:07 PM
Got any window motors? Jaguar controllers? Spike relays?

Building a robot? haha.
Why not?
Got any window motors? Jaguar controllers? Spike relays?

Motors of many sorts, including the steppers mentioned ^. No and no on the controller and the relays.
Can you post some pics and quotes?

Thanks.
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