Is it better to save money or invest it?

[Miracal]

Buy real estate and rent it.

Best investment in every age.

You need big amounts of money? Sell the estate, and you still got the rent payments. Sounds good to me.

Bitcoin on he other hand, is not an investment option. It is more like gambling.

If bitcoin seems like gambling to you, what about stocks? They might seem the same to you right? Bitcoin is a long term investment, and many people have reaped its benefit already. It is more than just investing a certain amount and hoping its price will increase. As per real estate, it is only an investment if it is at a good place and location. And most often, people cannot afford investing in real estate because its too costly.

[Falconer]

If bitcoin seems like gambling to you, what about stocks? They might seem the same to you right? Bitcoin is a long term investment, and many people have reaped its benefit already. It is more than just investing a certain amount and hoping its price will increase.

Then could you give me an example of bitcoin investment? I only know about hodling, but I think that just a saving, not investment.

As per real estate, it is only an investment if it is at a good place and location. And most often, people cannot afford investing in real estate because its too costly.

Its not hard to find good location for your real estate investment. You should need high capital to get high profit in your investment.

[mindrust]

Buy real estate and rent it.

Best investment in every age.

You need big amounts of money? Sell the estate, and you still got the rent payments. Sounds good to me.

Bitcoin on he other hand, is not an investment option. It is more like gambling.

If bitcoin seems like gambling to you, what about stocks? They might seem the same to you right? Bitcoin is a long term investment, and many people have reaped its benefit already. It is more than just investing a certain amount and hoping its price will increase. As per real estate, it is only an investment if it is at a good place and location. And most often, people cannot afford investing in real estate because its too costly.

There are real datas about the shares you are looking to buy. Like the company's yearly gain/loss or smth... What about bitcoin?

Do you know where the fuck Satoshi is? Do you know who he is? Which country is behind this project? Why does it rise? Why does it fall? We do not know a crap about bitcoin.

It rises or falls, and we learn the reason why after they happened.

On the other hand you can tell coca-cola won't ever bankrupted and it will be the number 1 coke company as always.

that is why.

Many people are hoping bitcoin to rise, but they do not have a clue about bitcoin.

[mindrust]

If bitcoin seems like gambling to you, what about stocks? They might seem the same to you right? Bitcoin is a long term investment, and many people have reaped its benefit already. It is more than just investing a certain amount and hoping its price will increase.

Then could you give me an example of bitcoin investment? I only know about hodling, but I think that just a saving, not investment.

As per real estate, it is only an investment if it is at a good place and location. And most often, people cannot afford investing in real estate because its too costly.

Its not hard to find good location for your real estate investment. You should need high capital to get high profit in your investment.

You can find real estates for every budget. You just got to be careful with renting prices. you know "price to rent ratio"

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/price-to-rent-ratio.asp

[GrandmaJean]

its better to invest, by investing you can earn a lot of money as the price might be different after some time and it would let people to get rich, of course its a bit of gambling but you cant earn money without risks

[Miracal]

There is real data about the shares you are looking to buy. Like the company's yearly gain/loss or smth... What about bitcoin?

There is real data about  bitcoin too, it is calculated precisely in a similar fashion.

Do you know where the fuck Satoshi is? Do you know who he is? Which country behind this project? Why does it rise? Why does it fall? We do not know a crap about bitcoin.

What does Satoshi has to do with my bitcoins? He doesn't have to do shit personally, neither does Warren Buffet have to do with anything when I invest my money in coco cola.

It rises or falls, and we learn the reason why after they happened.

Um hello, same goes with stocks!

On the other hand you can tell coca-cola won't ever bankrupted and it will be the number 1 coke company as always.

that is why.

There is no absolute guarantee that coca cola will never be bankrupt, they've had their losses too. The biggest players in the market have had losses, man. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/warren-buffett-loses-25-billion-in-three-days-on-cocacola-and-ibm-9811613.html

[mindrust]

There is real data about  bitcoin too, it is calculated precisely in a similar fashion.

What does Satoshi has to do with my bitcoins? He doesn't have to do shit personally, neither does Warren Buffet have to do with anything when I invest my money in coco cola.

Um hello, same goes with stocks!

There is no absolute guarantee that coca cola will never be bankrupt, they've had their losses too. The biggest players in the market have had losses, man. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/warren-buffett-loses-25-billion-in-three-days-on-cocacola-and-ibm-9811613.html

You miss the point, Satoshi dude is the one who claims to be the founder of bitcoin. So yes i need to know more of him. I can predict that Satoshi dude is an imaginary character made by the country which developed bitcoin... Then which country is that? Then yeah i can predict it is USA. That is not because i am smart, that is because it is f***n obvious.

Then why they hide themselves? Something shady going on man.

part2,

Lol Bringing Warren Buffet to the conversation?!? What the hell man... Have i ever said put all your money into Coca-cola shares? No.

[Dotakels]

its better to invest, by investing you can earn a lot of money as the price might be different after some time and it would let people to get rich, of course its a bit of gambling but you cant earn money without risks

Yeah all ways have risk but gambling is not way to earn, and not recommended on person that only have a flawed intelligence about gambling and its risk. And its better to save than to invest.

[HarHarHar9965]

You miss the point, Satoshi dude is the one who claims to be the founder of bitcoin. So yes i need to know more of him. I can predict that Satoshi dude is an imaginary character made by the country which developed bitcoin... Then which country is that? Then yeah i can predict it is USA. That is not because i am smart, that is because it is f***n obvious.

Then why they hide themselves? Something shady going on man.

part2,

Lol Bringing Warren Buffet to the conversation?!? What the hell man... Have i ever said put all your money into Coca-cola shares? No.

You're missing the point too which miracal is trying to make. He is saying that nobody cares about the CEO, they care about the profit chart and market strength when dealing in a stock market. CEO's, shareholders, the people in these positions keep changing over time. Why such a keen interest on Satoshi? Satoshi is a person who liked anonymity, that is the very reason he created a currency which allowed a transaction to take place anonymously.

[mindrust]

Satoshi is a person who liked anonymity, that is the very reason he created a currency which allowed a transaction to take place anonymously.

Have you ever asked yourself that why you are repeating samething over and over like parrots? Thousands of bitcoin-lovers repeating the same thing and only a small number of them actually capable to think the meaning of the sentence they make.

Satoshi is a person who liked anonymity,

How do you know? Have you met him? where did you see he's saying that? Have you seen him? I can't really believe thousands of people saying the same s*** over and over again without thinking at all.

Man, this is a social project. A social engineering. A giant viral. I salute to the mind who brought this shit up.

Don't get me wrong i like bitcoin, i am just stating some facts. Just be careful. My last message about the topic.

[knowhow]

The bitcoin only has one disadvantage, when you exchange real currency in the virtual has a potentiality of desvalorizaçao as well with only its value & tasting not switches as in banks, and interest to the month or the year, your return makes if you increase your conversion bitcoins can bring profit or loss.

[HarHarHar9965]

Satoshi is a person who liked anonymity, that is the very reason he created a currency which allowed a transaction to take place anonymously.

Have you ever asked yourself that why you are repeating samething over and over like parrots? Thousands of bitcoin-lovers repeating the same thing and only a small number of them actually capable to think the meaning of the sentence they make.

Satoshi is a person who liked anonymity,

How do you know? Have you met him? where did you see he's saying that? Have you seen him? I can't really believe thousands of people saying the same s*** over and over again without thinking at all.

Man, this is a social project. A social engineering. A giant viral. I salute to the mind who brought this shit up.

Don't get me wrong i like bitcoin, i am just stating some facts. Just be careful. My last message about the topic.

I like to believe that Satoshi Nakamoto, ever revealed his identity then his life would be in danger. Most billionaires are not in danger of having their assets stolen from them, because those assets are in the stock market or in a bank. Satoshi is in danger as his assets are all 100% controlled by himself. Of course, they are probably also hidden in several bank's safety deposit box but still he could access them. Publicly associating himself with the "Satoshi Nakamoto" pseudonym would mean a tragic loss of security. I do think at some point he will go public about it, but what I am saying is that there is tremendous risk. Going public would mean giving up his privacy, a great deal of freedom and paying large amounts of money/time if he wanted to stay alive. Or it could just be a bunch of mathematics which made up the idea of Satoshi in order to protect their identity.

[torrentheaven]

Hahaha its not impossible that the bitcoin price goes up, because we all know that the stability of the price is not stable and change in every hour.

Yeah actually I am same with you, hoping bitcoin price goes up someday atleast reach $500, but I cant see anything that can become a trigger to make its price goes up rapidly. With Greek crisis, its price went up just around $50.

Of course is a risk, Antonopoulous always says so himself, BTC is very high risk investment, but as should you know, if you play in the high risk leave, you play in the high rewards league (assuming big losses league are included, but things look good).

I prefer to do sport gambling then, which dont need long time to get the result. Its really very risky to make bitcoin as long term investment.

I would do the same. Investing bitcoin for a short term is an good idea. And that also in gambling its like just one day investment. You have results at the end of the day, you win or loose, its a matter of luck and also the risk involved in gambling. But if luck favors than that would be the best day, and with winning amount would buy some bitcoins when price goes down 

[operrajunk74]

Hahaha its not impossible that the bitcoin price goes up, because we all know that the stability of the price is not stable and change in every hour.

Yeah actually I am same with you, hoping bitcoin price goes up someday atleast reach $500, but I cant see anything that can become a trigger to make its price goes up rapidly. With Greek crisis, its price went up just around $50.

Of course is a risk, Antonopoulous always says so himself, BTC is very high risk investment, but as should you know, if you play in the high risk leave, you play in the high rewards league (assuming big losses league are included, but things look good).

I prefer to do sport gambling then, which dont need long time to get the result. Its really very risky to make bitcoin as long term investment.

I would do the same. Investing bitcoin for a short term is an good idea. And that also in gambling its like just one day investment. You have results at the end of the day, you win or loose, its a matter of luck and also the risk involved in gambling. But if luck favors than that would be the best day, and with winning amount would buy some bitcoins when price goes down 

But its too risky bro. You can't expect that you would win everytime, no doubt if you win you are the king, but if you loose, you loose everything in a single day. It is better to have better and safe investment which can give respectable amount of profits.

[Miracal]

Hahaha its not impossible that the bitcoin price goes up, because we all know that the stability of the price is not stable and change in every hour.

Yeah actually I am same with you, hoping bitcoin price goes up someday atleast reach $500, but I cant see anything that can become a trigger to make its price goes up rapidly. With Greek crisis, its price went up just around $50.

Of course is a risk, Antonopoulous always says so himself, BTC is very high risk investment, but as should you know, if you play in the high risk leave, you play in the high rewards league (assuming big losses league are included, but things look good).

I prefer to do sport gambling then, which dont need long time to get the result. Its really very risky to make bitcoin as long term investment.

I would do the same. Investing bitcoin for a short term is an good idea. And that also in gambling its like just one day investment. You have results at the end of the day, you win or loose, its a matter of luck and also the risk involved in gambling. But if luck favors than that would be the best day, and with winning amount would buy some bitcoins when price goes down 

But its too risky bro. You can't expect that you would win everytime, no doubt if you win you are the king, but if you loose, you loose everything in a single day. It is better to have better and safe investment which can give respectable amount of profits.

Why so negative about taking risks? If a person has money he doesn't mind gambling with, he should. I don't really believe in safe and secure investments anymore, our investments are a risk too, always. If we didn't take a risk, the only thing we would be investing in would be government bonds. Gambling is not bad always, once in a while its nice.

[Dotakels]

Hahaha its not impossible that the bitcoin price goes up, because we all know that the stability of the price is not stable and change in every hour.

Yeah actually I am same with you, hoping bitcoin price goes up someday atleast reach $500, but I cant see anything that can become a trigger to make its price goes up rapidly. With Greek crisis, its price went up just around $50.

Of course is a risk, Antonopoulous always says so himself, BTC is very high risk investment, but as should you know, if you play in the high risk leave, you play in the high rewards league (assuming big losses league are included, but things look good).

I prefer to do sport gambling then, which dont need long time to get the result. Its really very risky to make bitcoin as long term investment.

I would do the same. Investing bitcoin for a short term is an good idea. And that also in gambling its like just one day investment. You have results at the end of the day, you win or loose, its a matter of luck and also the risk involved in gambling. But if luck favors than that would be the best day, and with winning amount would buy some bitcoins when price goes down 

But its too risky bro. You can't expect that you would win everytime, no doubt if you win you are the king, but if you loose, you loose everything in a single day. It is better to have better and safe investment which can give respectable amount of profits.

Why so negative about taking risks? If a person has money he doesn't mind gambling with, he should. I don't really believe in safe and secure investments anymore, our investments are a risk too, always. If we didn't take a risk, the only thing we would be investing in would be government bonds. Gambling is not bad always, once in a while its nice.

Yeah once in a while then after a few days or weeks you will be addicted  to gambling and until you won in that way you will do it again and again, and if you lose some of your money you will talk to your self like "i should back my money and if i failed again i never gamble".

[Derrike]

and if you lose some of your money you will talk to your self like "i should back my money and if i failed again i never gamble".

And even after loosing shit load of money in gambling you will still think that I can get back all I've lost by gambling.
That is the reason why gamblers get in debt.

[Pk880058]

If you save your money then it's amount will remain the same.
But in case of investing it, you can increase the money, may be many folds.
Higher the risk and higher the return.

[MJK]

If you save your money then it's amount will remain the same.
But in case of investing it, you can increase the money, may be many folds.
Higher the risk and higher the return.

But with investing it you can also lose it all entirely, so that's the risk and why people suggest you should never invest what you can't afford to lose.

[Amph]

If you save your money then it's amount will remain the same.
But in case of investing it, you can increase the money, may be many folds.
Higher the risk and higher the return.

no it won't remain the same you will actually lose money if you save and nothing else, because the inflationary nature of fiat(i'm assuming that you will leave your wealth in fiat form) will be agianst the purchase power of your money, in the end you will buy less thing

this is also happen very fast in 3-5 years, because if i'm not mistaken the average inflation is around 8% per year for fiat currency