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need a pool!
need a pool need a ios app for accessing the files need a android app for accessing the file need a in wallet payment system (the actual solution is not usable for the normal user) need to be listed at a exchanges, that somebody can buy sias ..... so much is needed to make this a success. It just started, these things will come in time. This is one of the first solutions to make good use of storage in a live environment (not counting datacoin). Other competing solutions are still in development now, so i give them credit to be able to use the storage space now in a production network. You should know pools will come out in time as they did with Burst because custom pools must be created for something like this from scratch. How long has Burst been around to simply have a system of mining where you fill the hard drives with nonces and not use that space for anything else? With the recent update it sounds like there is no hope in sight of making anything happen with PoC2 either to make use of the space. People will surely prefer a coin like this that has some utility over mining coins you can do nothing with but maybe speculate on some assets. While it sounds like they are making big changes for the next release of the wallet the current wallet does not seem that hard to use at all. |
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June 16, 2015, 03:11:21 PM |
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need a pool!
need a pool need a ios app for accessing the files need a android app for accessing the file need a in wallet payment system (the actual solution is not usable for the normal user) need to be listed at a exchanges, that somebody can buy sias ..... so much is needed to make this a success. Need a pool and listed on exchanges are certainties and will happen short term. I don't know what you mean by in wallet system. If you mean the way to send Sia in the wallet currently could use improvement then I think most agree and the devs have improvements in development. As for ios and android apps, that I believe is super long term and not a priority. I believe while small casual users are always welcome and important Sia's focus and value will come in enterprise use and large use cases not necessarily dropbox type use. Although I would love to personally access my Sia on android and if Sia becomes huge I'm sure that will be available. |
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June 16, 2015, 03:28:12 PM |
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Need a pool? Need a normally working, stable, fast, non-UI-freezing (adjustable?) GPU miner!..  |
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June 16, 2015, 03:36:01 PM |
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June 16, 2015, 04:11:40 PM |
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But SIA still does not let me announce... So it would seem the problem lies with SIA?
Taek, any take on this? My ISP will see if they can update my firmware so maybe that could do something and SIA will also work after that, but I will let you all know how that turns out...
If it makes you feel any better, you are not the only one who has had this problem. If canyouseeme.org can find your service, then it's probably a problem with Sia. There is a chance that you've put in the wrong local ip address. For example, one of the computers on our network is 10.0.0.35, one is 10.0.0.26, etc. They are all on different endpoints, perhaps you've selected the wrong endpoint. My router shows the IP for that PC on the connected equipments list. Also when I run ipconfig on that same PC it tells me IPv4 Address is that same one. So that has to be the correct local IP right? What else could it be? |
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June 16, 2015, 05:05:56 PM |
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While we're advertising stuff, I'd also like to invite you guys to #siatalk on freenode. |
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nemo1618
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June 16, 2015, 05:09:06 PM |
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But SIA still does not let me announce... So it would seem the problem lies with SIA?
Taek, any take on this? My ISP will see if they can update my firmware so maybe that could do something and SIA will also work after that, but I will let you all know how that turns out...
If it makes you feel any better, you are not the only one who has had this problem. If canyouseeme.org can find your service, then it's probably a problem with Sia. There is a chance that you've put in the wrong local ip address. For example, one of the computers on our network is 10.0.0.35, one is 10.0.0.26, etc. They are all on different endpoints, perhaps you've selected the wrong endpoint. My router shows the IP for that PC on the connected equipments list. Also when I run ipconfig on that same PC it tells me IPv4 Address is that same one. So that has to be the correct local IP right? What else could it be? I'm really curious as to why people are having these problems. Most of our testing is done on Linux so it could be a Windows problem. Hard to say for sure if I can't reproduce it locally. Maybe until we have UPnP support we should just add a "--force" option that allows you to announce even if Sia doesn't think you're reachable. I'm not sure that's a great idea though. |
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June 16, 2015, 05:16:11 PM |
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But SIA still does not let me announce... So it would seem the problem lies with SIA?
Taek, any take on this? My ISP will see if they can update my firmware so maybe that could do something and SIA will also work after that, but I will let you all know how that turns out...
If it makes you feel any better, you are not the only one who has had this problem. If canyouseeme.org can find your service, then it's probably a problem with Sia. There is a chance that you've put in the wrong local ip address. For example, one of the computers on our network is 10.0.0.35, one is 10.0.0.26, etc. They are all on different endpoints, perhaps you've selected the wrong endpoint. My router shows the IP for that PC on the connected equipments list. Also when I run ipconfig on that same PC it tells me IPv4 Address is that same one. So that has to be the correct local IP right? What else could it be? Some routers need to be restarted,before aplying the changes in configuration.If you restarted router,and still have problems with ports 9981 and 9982,then you need to change firewall settings.If you run windows,go to control panel/System and security/windows firewall/advanced settings,and create new inbound rule in left top corner. |
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June 16, 2015, 11:05:44 PM |
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I had the announce problem on two separate machines.
Both was due to my routers port forwarding & firewall settings.
Try running sia gui or siad then run netstat in cmd or terminal.
Look for sia on a local address like 192.168.0.5:9981
To the right of this it should have an foreign external (not local) ip address.
If this address is also a local one the fault it with your router settings.
It should look like this.
Riskys-iMac:~ Owner$ sudo netstat
Password:
Active Internet connections
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state)
tcp4 0 0 192.168.0.4.9981 sokl-adm.cl.tks..50254 ESTABLISHED
tcp4 0 0 192.168.0.4.54845 ec2-54-167-105-1.9981 SYN_SENT
tcp4 0 0 192.168.0.4.9981 212-241-15-196.s.27808 ESTABLISHED
tcp4 37 0 192.168.0.4.54741 d.v.dropbox.com.https CLOSE_WAIT
tcp4 0 0 192.168.0.4.9981 pool-108-30-50-9.55980 ESTABLISHED
tcp4 0 0 192.168.0.4.54719 195-154-181-121..hylaf ESTABLISHED
Not like this
tcp4 0 0 localhost.9980 localhost.54650 ESTABLISHED
tcp4 0 0 localhost.54650 localhost.9980 ESTABLISHED
tcp4 0 0 localhost.9980 localhost.54649 ESTABLISHED
tcp4 0 0 localhost.54649 localhost.9980 ESTABLISHED
tcp4 0 0 localhost.9980 localhost.54648 ESTABLISHED
tcp4 0 0 localhost.9980 localhost.54647 ESTABLISHED
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June 17, 2015, 12:35:54 AM |
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I had the announce problem on two separate machines.
Both was due to my routers port forwarding & firewall settings.
Try running sia gui or siad then run netstat in cmd or terminal.
Look for sia on a local address like 192.168.0.5:9981
To the right of this it should have an foreign external (not local) ip address.
If this address is also a local one the fault it with your router settings.
It should look like this.
Riskys-iMac:~ Owner$ sudo netstat
Password:
Active Internet connections
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state)
tcp4 0 0 192.168.0.4.9981 sokl-adm.cl.tks..50254 ESTABLISHED
tcp4 0 0 192.168.0.4.54845 ec2-54-167-105-1.9981 SYN_SENT
tcp4 0 0 192.168.0.4.9981 212-241-15-196.s.27808 ESTABLISHED
tcp4 37 0 192.168.0.4.54741 d.v.dropbox.com.https CLOSE_WAIT
tcp4 0 0 192.168.0.4.9981 pool-108-30-50-9.55980 ESTABLISHED
tcp4 0 0 192.168.0.4.54719 195-154-181-121..hylaf ESTABLISHED
Not like this
tcp4 0 0 localhost.9980 localhost.54650 ESTABLISHED
tcp4 0 0 localhost.54650 localhost.9980 ESTABLISHED
tcp4 0 0 localhost.9980 localhost.54649 ESTABLISHED
tcp4 0 0 localhost.54649 localhost.9980 ESTABLISHED
tcp4 0 0 localhost.9980 localhost.54648 ESTABLISHED
tcp4 0 0 localhost.9980 localhost.54647 ESTABLISHED
Well this is what I get so seems correct yes? Active Connections Proto Local Address Foreign Address State TCP 192.168.100.22:9981 p57A9A664:49299 ESTABLISHED TCP 192.168.100.22:9981 sokl-adm:54473 ESTABLISHED TCP 192.168.100.22:9981 194:52628 ESTABLISHED |
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June 17, 2015, 01:46:16 AM |
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I had the announce problem on two separate machines.
Both was due to my routers port forwarding & firewall settings.
Try running sia gui or siad then run netstat in cmd or terminal.
Look for sia on a local address like 192.168.0.5:9981
To the right of this it should have an foreign external (not local) ip address.
If this address is also a local one the fault it with your router settings.
It should look like this.
Riskys-iMac:~ Owner$ sudo netstat
Password:
Active Internet connections
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state)
tcp4 0 0 192.168.0.4.9981 sokl-adm.cl.tks..50254 ESTABLISHED
tcp4 0 0 192.168.0.4.54845 ec2-54-167-105-1.9981 SYN_SENT
tcp4 0 0 192.168.0.4.9981 212-241-15-196.s.27808 ESTABLISHED
tcp4 37 0 192.168.0.4.54741 d.v.dropbox.com.https CLOSE_WAIT
tcp4 0 0 192.168.0.4.9981 pool-108-30-50-9.55980 ESTABLISHED
tcp4 0 0 192.168.0.4.54719 195-154-181-121..hylaf ESTABLISHED
Not like this
tcp4 0 0 localhost.9980 localhost.54650 ESTABLISHED
tcp4 0 0 localhost.54650 localhost.9980 ESTABLISHED
tcp4 0 0 localhost.9980 localhost.54649 ESTABLISHED
tcp4 0 0 localhost.54649 localhost.9980 ESTABLISHED
tcp4 0 0 localhost.9980 localhost.54648 ESTABLISHED
tcp4 0 0 localhost.9980 localhost.54647 ESTABLISHED
yeah im seeing tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.5.9981 46-185-58-255-su.61547 ESTABLISHED tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.5.9981 46.185.102.115.22983 ESTABLISHED and tcp4 0 12 192.168.1.5.9981 212-97-0-99.stat.12850 ESTABLISHED but still showing errors in the app and in siad listen tcp :9981: bind: address already in use https://www.dropbox.com/s/ul3sfqpwl1wcni6/Screenshot%202015-06-16%2021.45.00.png?dl=0 |
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June 17, 2015, 02:06:47 AM
Last edit: June 17, 2015, 02:47:27 AM by TerraMaster |
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But SIA still does not let me announce... So it would seem the problem lies with SIA?
Taek, any take on this? My ISP will see if they can update my firmware so maybe that could do something and SIA will also work after that, but I will let you all know how that turns out...
If it makes you feel any better, you are not the only one who has had this problem. If canyouseeme.org can find your service, then it's probably a problem with Sia. There is a chance that you've put in the wrong local ip address. For example, one of the computers on our network is 10.0.0.35, one is 10.0.0.26, etc. They are all on different endpoints, perhaps you've selected the wrong endpoint. My router shows the IP for that PC on the connected equipments list. Also when I run ipconfig on that same PC it tells me IPv4 Address is that same one. So that has to be the correct local IP right? What else could it be? I'm really curious as to why people are having these problems. Most of our testing is done on Linux so it could be a Windows problem. Hard to say for sure if I can't reproduce it locally. Maybe until we have UPnP support we should just add a "--force" option that allows you to announce even if Sia doesn't think you're reachable. I'm not sure that's a great idea though. I don't believe its a windows issue. I had no problems once I had the local ISP flash the firmware in my basic DSL phone line type modem (not cable) and get it hard written into their server. Once done, ports are open. They have to see the device (PC that's hosting) attached to the modem, and its mac address and IP. *I am plugging directly in to the ISP issued DSL modem for my hosting PC only. My home router plugs into it as well, but allows me to have a separate network for all other computers as an added layer of security. Keep in mind I also have a static IP. Also, if some have DHCP set in their personal routers (which most probably do) the IP will change to the PC doing the SIA hosting occasionally if they do a reboot on router and that could issue a new IP to their hosting PC and the ports may show as closed as a result. Best to add a "reserved DHCP IP address in your personal router making the hosting PC retain a permanent IP to their SIA computer. But this will not open the ports in your DSL modem unless you are bridged with your personal router. Most ISP modems will not allow you to edit the ports freely or directly, and if you do or can, they may be reset by the ISP back to their default settings unless they are permanently flashed as mentioned earlier. Never had to touch windows firewall. W7 64 bit Now if someone is using Norton etc. with a firewall feature turned on that may change the equation some? ok, Just food for thought  ya its a bit confusing.  Obviously this is an issue going forward with using the wallet for hosting. At some point it will have to be made dummy proof for all users. Especially for large scale use as we all want and need it to be |
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June 17, 2015, 05:41:30 AM |
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need a pool!
need a pool need a ios app for accessing the files need a android app for accessing the file need a in wallet payment system (the actual solution is not usable for the normal user) need to be listed at a exchanges, that somebody can buy sias ..... so much is needed to make this a success. Need a pool and listed on exchanges are certainties and will happen short term. I don't know what you mean by in wallet system. If you mean the way to send Sia in the wallet currently could use improvement then I think most agree and the devs have improvements in development. As for ios and android apps, that I believe is super long term and not a priority. I believe while small casual users are always welcome and important Sia's focus and value will come in enterprise use and large use cases not necessarily dropbox type use. Although I would love to personally access my Sia on android and if Sia becomes huge I'm sure that will be available. with a in wallet payment system i mean, users should be able to buy and sell sias in wallet without an exchange. you could implement a small marketplace for users to buy and sell sia via paypal for example. think about a normal users. he downloads the app, want to place some files. now he has to learn crypto currencys, has to learn how to use exchanges, has to learn how to buy bitcoins, has to learn how to transfer bitcoins to exchanges, has to learn selling bitcoins for sias, has to learn withdrays sias into sia wallet... to complicated. without a easy solution for this, this will be only a plaything for techies. |
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chrysophylax
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June 17, 2015, 06:45:02 AM |
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need a pool!
need a pool need a ios app for accessing the files need a android app for accessing the file need a in wallet payment system (the actual solution is not usable for the normal user) need to be listed at a exchanges, that somebody can buy sias ..... so much is needed to make this a success. Need a pool and listed on exchanges are certainties and will happen short term. I don't know what you mean by in wallet system. If you mean the way to send Sia in the wallet currently could use improvement then I think most agree and the devs have improvements in development. As for ios and android apps, that I believe is super long term and not a priority. I believe while small casual users are always welcome and important Sia's focus and value will come in enterprise use and large use cases not necessarily dropbox type use. Although I would love to personally access my Sia on android and if Sia becomes huge I'm sure that will be available. with a in wallet payment system i mean, users should be able to buy and sell sias in wallet without an exchange. you could implement a small marketplace for users to buy and sell sia via paypal for example. think about a normal users. he downloads the app, want to place some files. now he has to learn crypto currencys, has to learn how to use exchanges, has to learn how to buy bitcoins, has to learn how to transfer bitcoins to exchanges, has to learn selling bitcoins for sias, has to learn withdrays sias into sia wallet... to complicated. without a easy solution for this, this will be only a plaything for techies. thats actually a great idea ... a mini sia market ... #crysx |
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mishax1
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June 17, 2015, 01:18:29 PM |
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Yesterday my miner said there were 2 blocks mined (at 110mhs) but I didnt get any reward, is that normal ? (144 blocks have passed since then) , also another block found a few hours ago but I don't expect it's reward since this is probably the 3rd time this is happening..
So WTF is going on ?
Mining 3 blocks in a little over a day with 110 MH/s would be a miracle. What does the http://localhost:9980/miner/status report? Thinking you got some orphans or your miner is falsely reporting. Miner says 12 blocks mined today.. but.. {"State":"Off","Mining":false,"Threads":1,"RunningThreads":0,"HashRate":0,"BlocksPerWeek":0,"BlocksMined":0,"OrphansMined":0,"Address":"eea951fa559d96ee40d70652e174158855169386f44b30de05bf7d63ca4cf456"} mining with 280X.. wtf is going on? |
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June 17, 2015, 01:36:48 PM |
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Yesterday my miner said there were 2 blocks mined (at 110mhs) but I didnt get any reward, is that normal ? (144 blocks have passed since then) , also another block found a few hours ago but I don't expect it's reward since this is probably the 3rd time this is happening..
So WTF is going on ?
Mining 3 blocks in a little over a day with 110 MH/s would be a miracle. What does the http://localhost:9980/miner/status report? Thinking you got some orphans or your miner is falsely reporting. Miner says 12 blocks mined today.. but.. {"State":"Off","Mining":false,"Threads":1,"RunningThreads":0,"HashRate":0,"BlocksPerWeek":0,"BlocksMined":0,"OrphansMined":0,"Address":"eea951fa559d96ee40d70652e174158855169386f44b30de05bf7d63ca4cf456"} mining with 280X.. wtf is going on? That is all I have ever seen while mining. Forget the 12 blocks. most likely false reporting from miner. Just have to wait 24 hours and hope you see a true block payout. What is your hash rate? I was using the old glitch'y software on my 7970's and saw at times 1,500 blocks mined, with a hash rate of 105 MH, but was lucky to see just 1 block actual payout. I have never found a block using the newer low demand software miner (less glitch'y) that produced around 60 MH |
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June 17, 2015, 01:44:34 PM |
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with a in wallet payment system i mean, users should be able to buy and sell sias in wallet without an exchange. you could implement a small marketplace for users to buy and sell sia via paypal for example.
think about a normal users. he downloads the app, want to place some files. now he has to learn crypto currencys, has to learn how to use exchanges, has to learn how to buy bitcoins, has to learn how to transfer bitcoins to exchanges, has to learn selling bitcoins for sias, has to learn withdrays sias into sia wallet... to complicated. without a easy solution for this, this will be only a plaything for techies.
PayPal for Sia direct purchase would be great and very important! The "how to" queue is really crazy for somebody who wants only see how good and usable Sia is and then maybe consider move from old cloud system or not. how to: 1) find fiat <--> BTC exchange 2) send Proof of Identity 3) send Proof of Residence 4) find BTC <--> altcoins exchange 5) start using password manager for the first time 6) how to transfer BTC to exchanges 7) learn selling BTC for Sia 8 ) learn withdraw Sia into Sia wallet 9) finally try sia It is not Sia's fault but this is really extremely complicated once I see it in one place. |
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June 17, 2015, 01:53:59 PM |
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Yesterday my miner said there were 2 blocks mined (at 110mhs) but I didnt get any reward, is that normal ? (144 blocks have passed since then) , also another block found a few hours ago but I don't expect it's reward since this is probably the 3rd time this is happening..
So WTF is going on ?
Mining 3 blocks in a little over a day with 110 MH/s would be a miracle. What does the http://localhost:9980/miner/status report? Thinking you got some orphans or your miner is falsely reporting. Miner says 12 blocks mined today.. but.. {"State":"Off","Mining":false,"Threads":1,"RunningThreads":0,"HashRate":0,"BlocksPerWeek":0,"BlocksMined":0,"OrphansMined":0,"Address":"eea951fa559d96ee40d70652e174158855169386f44b30de05bf7d63ca4cf456"} mining with 280X.. wtf is going on? That is all I have ever seen while mining. Forget the 12 blocks. most likely false reporting from miner. Just have to wait 24 hours and hope you see a true block payout. What is your hash rate? I was using the old glitch'y software on my 7970's and saw at times 1,500 blocks mined, with a hash rate of 105 MH, but was lucky to see just 1 block actual payout. I have never found a block using the newer low demand software miner (less glitch'y) that produced around 60 MH The miner from the git ( https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia-GPU-Miner/releases/tag/v1.0.1) instantly crashes , I'm not even sure what miner I have now... this is a disaster. Few people mine at 500-1000mhs , the rest are mining at 50-110mhs, and if I'm a new user coming here and want to mine the shit doesnt even work. |
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June 17, 2015, 02:04:35 PM |
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Yesterday my miner said there were 2 blocks mined (at 110mhs) but I didnt get any reward, is that normal ? (144 blocks have passed since then) , also another block found a few hours ago but I don't expect it's reward since this is probably the 3rd time this is happening..
So WTF is going on ?
Mining 3 blocks in a little over a day with 110 MH/s would be a miracle. What does the http://localhost:9980/miner/status report? Thinking you got some orphans or your miner is falsely reporting. Miner says 12 blocks mined today.. but.. {"State":"Off","Mining":false,"Threads":1,"RunningThreads":0,"HashRate":0,"BlocksPerWeek":0,"BlocksMined":0,"OrphansMined":0,"Address":"eea951fa559d96ee40d70652e174158855169386f44b30de05bf7d63ca4cf456"} mining with 280X.. wtf is going on? That is all I have ever seen while mining. Forget the 12 blocks. most likely false reporting from miner. Just have to wait 24 hours and hope you see a true block payout. What is your hash rate? I was using the old glitch'y software on my 7970's and saw at times 1,500 blocks mined, with a hash rate of 105 MH, but was lucky to see just 1 block actual payout. I have never found a block using the newer low demand software miner (less glitch'y) that produced around 60 MH The miner from the git ( https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia-GPU-Miner/releases/tag/v1.0.1) instantly crashes , I'm not even sure what miner I have now... this is a disaster. Few people mine at 500-1000mhs , the rest are mining at 50-110mhs, and if I'm a new user coming here and want to mine the shit doesnt even work. If you want a stable miner for your AMD card that reports accurately use the one Wolf0 posted. Just be sure to replace the .cl file like he instructs: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1060294.980Chances are it will take weeks to find a block with your hashrate though. |
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