Richy_T
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2450
Merit: 2128
1RichyTrEwPYjZSeAYxeiFBNnKC9UjC5k
|
|
October 23, 2012, 05:39:34 PM |
|
You know, I've been called a lot of things, but "commie" isn't usually one of them. Thanks, I needed the laugh. I don't live on the Kings land. I don't even live on the President's land. I live on my land. The idea that I should be paying taxes in order to live on land I own is ridiculous.
When in the Course of human events... yada yada yada.
|
1RichyTrEwPYjZSeAYxeiFBNnKC9UjC5k
|
|
|
sturle
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1437
Merit: 1002
https://bitmynt.no
|
|
October 23, 2012, 05:45:23 PM |
|
It all sounds so nice and agreeable and friendly. The reality was that the king was a thug who took what he wanted because he could and your new kings are thugs wearing suits.
Did you copy this from Karl Marx?
|
Sjå https://bitmynt.no for veksling av bitcoin mot norske kroner. Trygt, billig, raskt og enkelt sidan 2010. I buy with EUR and other currencies at a fair market price when you want to sell. See http://bitmynt.no/eurprice.plWarning: "Bitcoin" XT, Classic, Unlimited and the likes are scams. Don't use them, and don't listen to their shills.
|
|
|
sturle
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1437
Merit: 1002
https://bitmynt.no
|
|
October 23, 2012, 05:47:03 PM |
|
I don't even live on the President's land. I live on my land. The idea that I should be paying taxes in order to live on land I own is ridiculous.
What country did you steal your land from?
|
Sjå https://bitmynt.no for veksling av bitcoin mot norske kroner. Trygt, billig, raskt og enkelt sidan 2010. I buy with EUR and other currencies at a fair market price when you want to sell. See http://bitmynt.no/eurprice.plWarning: "Bitcoin" XT, Classic, Unlimited and the likes are scams. Don't use them, and don't listen to their shills.
|
|
|
myrkul
|
|
October 23, 2012, 05:49:03 PM |
|
I don't even live on the President's land. I live on my land. The idea that I should be paying taxes in order to live on land I own is ridiculous.
What country did you steal your land from? I didn't steal any land. We (my roommates and I) bought it, fair and square.
|
|
|
|
Kontakt
|
|
October 23, 2012, 05:52:34 PM |
|
I don't even live on the President's land. I live on my land. The idea that I should be paying taxes in order to live on land I own is ridiculous.
What country did you steal your land from? I didn't steal any land. We (my roommates and I) bought it, fair and square. How exactly, can you own land? How long will you own it for? Can I claim the rights to the surface of mars, and sue the government for trespassing?
|
|
|
|
myrkul
|
|
October 23, 2012, 05:56:07 PM |
|
I don't even live on the President's land. I live on my land. The idea that I should be paying taxes in order to live on land I own is ridiculous.
What country did you steal your land from? I didn't steal any land. We (my roommates and I) bought it, fair and square. How exactly, can you own land? How long will you own it for? Can I claim the rights to the surface of mars, and sue the government for trespassing? When you get there, let me know. Now, would you like to answer my questions? First, reference the section of the constitution where that is specified. I have a paper copy, so you can simply tell me where, I can look it up myself.
Second, how is a group of your neighbors deciding you have too much money any different from taxation?
|
|
|
|
Kontakt
|
|
October 23, 2012, 05:59:30 PM |
|
I don't even live on the President's land. I live on my land. The idea that I should be paying taxes in order to live on land I own is ridiculous.
What country did you steal your land from? I didn't steal any land. We (my roommates and I) bought it, fair and square. How exactly, can you own land? How long will you own it for? Can I claim the rights to the surface of mars, and sue the government for trespassing? When you get there, let me know. Now, would you like to answer my questions? First, reference the section of the constitution where that is specified. I have a paper copy, so you can simply tell me where, I can look it up myself.
Second, how is a group of your neighbors deciding you have too much money any different from taxation?
Right, I can't find it in the actual document, but that what was told to me during my indoctrination at school, so whatevs. And the difference is that I know for certain that my neighboors will not being using the money in any way that directly benefits me. I only suspect that the government is not using my money in a way that benefits me.
|
|
|
|
myrkul
|
|
October 23, 2012, 06:04:15 PM |
|
Right, I can't find it in the actual document, but that what was told to me during my indoctrination at school, so whatevs. I suspected as much. This may be a revelation: Democracy is no more, and no less, than might makes right. There are more of them than you, so they can do whatever they want. And the difference is that I know for certain that my neighboors will not being using the money in any way that directly benefits me. I only suspect that the government is not using my money in a way that benefits me.
If I mug you at gunpoint for $100, and promise to buy you a $50 stereo, does that make it OK?
|
|
|
|
Kontakt
|
|
October 23, 2012, 06:08:48 PM |
|
Right, I can't find it in the actual document, but that what was told to me during my indoctrination at school, so whatevs. I suspected as much. This may be a revelation: Democracy is no more, and no less, than might makes right. There are more of them than you, so they can do whatever they want. And the difference is that I know for certain that my neighboors will not being using the money in any way that directly benefits me. I only suspect that the government is not using my money in a way that benefits me.
If I mug you at gunpoint for $100, and promise to buy you a $50 stereo, does that make it OK? Obviously the solution is to be one of them. Capitalism has taught me so. For me, the equivalent would be mugging me for $100 (my approximate income tax last year, give or take $30) and paying $2500 of my tuition.
|
|
|
|
myrkul
|
|
October 23, 2012, 06:15:37 PM |
|
For me, the equivalent would be mugging me for $100 (my approximate income tax last year, give or take $30) and paying $2500 of my tuition.
So you've benefited. Good for you. Where did the other $2400 come from, though? Would you hold a gun to your neighbor and force him to pay your college tuition?
|
|
|
|
Kontakt
|
|
October 23, 2012, 06:17:43 PM |
|
The money probably comes from hundreds of people being nickeled and dimed across the nation. I'm not worried, though. I know that there's no free lunch. I'll end up paying it out in the end, so it's all good. ^.^
|
|
|
|
myrkul
|
|
October 23, 2012, 06:18:48 PM |
|
Maybe you didn't see it. I'll ask again. Would you hold a gun to your neighbor and force him to pay your college tuition?
|
|
|
|
Kontakt
|
|
October 23, 2012, 06:20:04 PM |
|
Would you take an old woman's liver to not pay yours?
|
|
|
|
myrkul
|
|
October 23, 2012, 06:22:41 PM |
|
Would you take an old woman's liver to not pay yours?
Why is it so hard to get a straight answer from you? (Also, your question doesn't even make sense.) Would you hold a gun to your neighbor and force him to pay your college tuition?
YES or NO.
|
|
|
|
Richy_T
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2450
Merit: 2128
1RichyTrEwPYjZSeAYxeiFBNnKC9UjC5k
|
|
October 23, 2012, 06:27:27 PM |
|
It all sounds so nice and agreeable and friendly. The reality was that the king was a thug who took what he wanted because he could and your new kings are thugs wearing suits.
Did you copy this from Karl Marx? Yes, yes I did copy it from Karl Marx :rolleyes:
|
1RichyTrEwPYjZSeAYxeiFBNnKC9UjC5k
|
|
|
Kontakt
|
|
October 23, 2012, 06:33:44 PM |
|
Would you take an old woman's liver to not pay yours?
Why is it so hard to get a straight answer from you? (Also, your question doesn't even make sense.) Would you hold a gun to your neighbor and force him to pay your college tuition?
YES or NO. Yes, I would, because according to your logic, that makes me a legitimate form of government and therefore entitled to your possessions.
|
|
|
|
myrkul
|
|
October 23, 2012, 06:35:41 PM |
|
Would you take an old woman's liver to not pay yours?
Why is it so hard to get a straight answer from you? (Also, your question doesn't even make sense.) Would you hold a gun to your neighbor and force him to pay your college tuition?
YES or NO. Yes, I would, because according to your logic, that makes me a legitimate form of government and therefore entitled to your possessions. No, according to my logic, that makes you a violent thug and entitled to a bullet in the head in defense. Still want to answer yes?
|
|
|
|
Kontakt
|
|
October 23, 2012, 06:36:53 PM |
|
Would you take an old woman's liver to not pay yours?
Why is it so hard to get a straight answer from you? (Also, your question doesn't even make sense.) Would you hold a gun to your neighbor and force him to pay your college tuition?
YES or NO. Yes, I would, because according to your logic, that makes me a legitimate form of government and therefore entitled to your possessions. No, according to my logic, that makes you a violent thug and entitled to a bullet in the head in defense. Still want to answer yes? Yes, because you somehow think that robbery is uncommon.
|
|
|
|
myrkul
|
|
October 23, 2012, 06:39:05 PM |
|
Would you take an old woman's liver to not pay yours?
Why is it so hard to get a straight answer from you? (Also, your question doesn't even make sense.) Would you hold a gun to your neighbor and force him to pay your college tuition?
YES or NO. Yes, I would, because according to your logic, that makes me a legitimate form of government and therefore entitled to your possessions. No, according to my logic, that makes you a violent thug and entitled to a bullet in the head in defense. Still want to answer yes? Yes, because you somehow think that robbery is uncommon. I never said that it is uncommon. I said that it is wrong. Do you dispute that?
|
|
|
|
Kontakt
|
|
October 23, 2012, 06:40:51 PM |
|
Would you take an old woman's liver to not pay yours?
Why is it so hard to get a straight answer from you? (Also, your question doesn't even make sense.) Would you hold a gun to your neighbor and force him to pay your college tuition?
YES or NO. Yes, I would, because according to your logic, that makes me a legitimate form of government and therefore entitled to your possessions. No, according to my logic, that makes you a violent thug and entitled to a bullet in the head in defense. Still want to answer yes? Yes, because you somehow think that robbery is uncommon. I never said that it is uncommon. I said that it is wrong. Do you dispute that? Sure, theft has a negative moral consequence, but so does abandoning another in need and taking more than you need. Ethics are quite negotiable when the cards hit the table. Most people don't seem to get that.
|
|
|
|
|