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June 03, 2025, 08:37:09 PM
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It will take time for Ten Hag to make changes at Leverkusen because after all the departure of Xabi Alonso has made this team have to go through adjustments. The target next season to compete for the title but it will be difficult to achieve if Leverkusen does not strengthen the team with the swelling of several important players. Everyone associates Ten Hag's failure at Manchester United and maybe many people are pessimistic that Leverkusen under Ten Hag's coaching can be much more successful. Anything can happen but we need to give him time and trust him because who knows he could repeat the success he had at Ajax.

A team like Bayern Leverkusen that have tasted success recently will want to continue to taste it. They failed to win the Bundesliga title last season and lost to Bayern Munich who reclaimed the title from them after they won it from them last season. Bayern Leverkusen may have changed their manager and losing most of their top players to other teams, but we just have to give them some time before we can begin to conclude on how the outcome of the game is going to be. He was more successful at Ajax than he was when he managed Manchester United. But everyone is not getting it right about him now, he may be so poor at Manchester United but it doesn’t mean same will happen in this new club he’d joined now to manage especially when there is high hopes on him to keep the team on high hopes of reviving their good form.











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June 04, 2025, 12:47:05 AM
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but you are ignoring the transfer period. I think Leverkusen will sell many players in the transfer period. Because they will receive very high offers and the players will want to leave the team. In this case, it will be necessary to transfer good players in order for the team to be established better. Technical director Ten Hag needs to bring good players to Bayer Leverkusen. If they cannot transfer quality and young players, they may not be in their current position. Right now, everyone expects Leverkusen to be in the championship race next year. Frankly, he will be the technical director I am most curious about in recent years.
That is good to focus on transfer period for Bayer Leverkusen especially after their amazing undefeated win in 2023-2024 Bundesliga season because successful teams mostly face challenge of their best players getting big offers from other clubs which makes transfer window very important time. Your point about needing to bring in good young players to replace anyone who leaves is spot on as their ability to stay in championship race next year will depend heavily on making smart new signings. If they can not replace key players well it will be hard to repeat their success.

 
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June 04, 2025, 02:07:23 AM
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I don’t think Ten Hag will be able to seriously challenge for the Bundesliga title next season. Alonso showed this year that when Bayern worked with Kompany, they became much stronger, meaning Bayern overcame their crisis and competing with a team like that has become extremely difficult. After Alonso’s departure, the situation could get even tougher. Plus we will need to see how well they manage to keep their key players and how Ten Hag handles the transfer market. He is a good coach and he built a strong reputation before his time in Manchester, but I am not sure that is enough for Leverkusen to win the title again.
Not only you and probably most people doubt Ten Hag because he had a failure at Manchester United but we need to trust him and hope he can do much better. Kompany also did not prove to be a great coach when he came to Bayern Munich but he was able to give his best slowly. What made Kompany who he is now is because he has the support and quality players in the team. This is what Leverkusen's management needs to do so that Ten Hag can also give his best for the club's success. If he was able to achieve success as Ajax coach why not give him the chance to achieve success at Leverkusen.

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June 04, 2025, 04:11:26 AM
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Leverkusen will like face a difficult time come next season because they are in a different phase of their club because a new coach will be coming to the team which means that a different style of play which the players will follow and the truth is that it's not easy for players to follow and master the playing pattern of new coaches because it will take a while before the players will adopt to the style of play of the new coach.

While a lot of people sees that Bayern Leverkusen will be more than this season on the next one but they have not considered what the new coach might be giving to them as he is starting the season, so they shouldn't get too confident on the new coach yet, let it not be that they will be hoping for something and getting another, that's how some clubs out of previous poor state get so happy for the new coach they're about to have but seeing worst results from him later on, if hype was a trophy Manchester United could have gotten it from all the hype they got while there current coach was on the process of joining them but unfortunately it has been the same as always.
Leverkusen performed well last season and this season and their manager Xabi Alonso has played a significant role in their good performance. Carlo Ancelotti's contract with Real Madrid has expired this season, as a result of which Real Madrid has given a new responsibility to Xabi Alonso, as a result of which Xabi Alonso has left Leverkusen's responsibility. The one who will take charge of Leverkusen now is certainly not as skilled and experienced as Xabi Alonso, in this case, since the performance of football depends a lot on the manager, we can imagine that Leverkusen's performance in the coming season may be a little worse. However, if every player in the team has a good understanding with the manager and if the manager can apply the right strategy, then the performance may be the same as before. If we watch a few matches at the beginning of the season, we will understand how Leverkusen can actually perform throughout the season.

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June 04, 2025, 04:51:07 AM
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I don’t think Ten Hag will be able to seriously challenge for the Bundesliga title next season. Alonso showed this year that when Bayern worked with Kompany, they became much stronger, meaning Bayern overcame their crisis and competing with a team like that has become extremely difficult. After Alonso’s departure, the situation could get even tougher. Plus we will need to see how well they manage to keep their key players and how Ten Hag handles the transfer market. He is a good coach and he built a strong reputation before his time in Manchester, but I am not sure that is enough for Leverkusen to win the title again.
Not only you and probably most people doubt Ten Hag because he had a failure at Manchester United but we need to trust him and hope he can do much better. Kompany also did not prove to be a great coach when he came to Bayern Munich but he was able to give his best slowly. What made Kompany who he is now is because he has the support and quality players in the team. This is what Leverkusen's management needs to do so that Ten Hag can also give his best for the club's success. If he was able to achieve success as Ajax coach why not give him the chance to achieve success at Leverkusen.
Food point about trust and giving managers time, but I can't help but think that the situation at Leverkusen is far more dangerous than what Kompany is dealing with at Bayern. Kompany took over Bayern with a big checkbook, a history of winning, and a structure that can absorbs shocks. Ten Hag takes over a Leverkusen that lost its brains (Alonso) and its most creative players (Wirtz and Frimpong). Wirtz got offers of €130–150 million on his own, and the whole tactical system was made for a 3–4–2–1, which isn't even his style

If the board supports him with big signings and doesn't get too upset over a few losses, then yes, he may pull off an Ajax 2019. But Leverkusen's approach is sustainable seller, not a galacticos buyer. In the past, they would cash out as soon as they reached their peak. See what happened after their past golden generations (Ballack, Ze Roberto era, etc). The stats show a predicted drop to 69 points, and key rivals already handed them losses in simulated results. This isn't like the NBA's "trust the process". It hopes that Ten Hag can quickly develop a Champions League team with injury-prone players and a salary cap that makes Bayern laugh

Is it possible? Of course, but he has to accomplish more with less. He built on a winning academy pipeline at Ajax. At Leverkusen, he is inheriting the mother of all “afterparties”. If he does it, it will be more than simply calm hands; it will be miracle worker stuff. Let's find out what the summer window actually provides

 
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June 04, 2025, 10:29:30 AM
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Leverkusen won the title after going undefeated for a whole season. It was an incredible result. Xabi Alonso's record is impossible to break. Because Leverkusen's squad is not that strong. It is unlikely that Leverkusen will build a very strong squad in the future. Leverkusen's squad is getting weaker day by day.

Leverkusen's new coach Ten Hag. Ten Hag was a complete failure with Manchester United. However, since the Bundesliga is not as competitive as the Premier League, there is a possibility of ten Hag succeeding here. Ten Hag was successful with Ajax. Leverkusen fans will have their hopes on ten Hag. However, if the squad is not strengthened, Leverkusen will not be able to compete for the Bundesliga title.
The wonderful victory of Leverkusen is a grand milestone for them.The credit of this victory directly goes to Xabi Alonso because he enabled them to do so because the role of a coach in polishing the team is very important. If we look at Eric ten Hag the audience's analysis is that the responsibility for his on poor performance of manchester united goes to the coach because he played a big part in the team's failure. But Leverkusen's team, not Xabi Alonso, enabled them to become a wonderful team. But now they have also changed their coach, so nothing can be said about how this experience will be with them. But if Eric ten hag proves himself and coaches in a wonderful way, then Leverkusen's team can win the next league title for Bundesliga.











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June 04, 2025, 11:25:46 AM
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but you are ignoring the transfer period. I think Leverkusen will sell many players in the transfer period. Because they will receive very high offers and the players will want to leave the team. In this case, it will be necessary to transfer good players in order for the team to be established better. Technical director Ten Hag needs to bring good players to Bayer Leverkusen. If they cannot transfer quality and young players, they may not be in their current position. Right now, everyone expects Leverkusen to be in the championship race next year. Frankly, he will be the technical director I am most curious about in recent years.

Leverkusen is not a rich club. The team is not in a good financial position either. So the Leverkusen management will not want to miss the opportunity to make money by selling players.

In the last few years, Xabi Alonso has produced several talented players. Florian Wirtz is one of them. By selling Florian Wirtz, Leverkusen can earn more than 130 million. I also expect Leverkusen to sell several players this season. As a result, the squad will be weakened. Even then, the Leverkusen management will have to do this to run the club's expenses well.

Leverkusen will not fight for the title next season. Leverkusen's target will be to find new players and develop them with some experience. Leverkusen will probably follow Dortmund now.

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June 04, 2025, 11:46:52 AM
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But now they have also changed their coach, so nothing can be said about how this experience will be with them. But if Eric ten hag proves himself and coaches in a wonderful way, then Leverkusen's team can win the next league title for Bundesliga.
The change of coach chair that can not be stopped completely and maybe Leverkusen fans are a little disappointed but let the past be the past now in the Ten Hag era there is a sense of doubt for us and there is a possibility that next season Leverkusen will not be able to perform like in Xabi hands the reason is quite simple Writz left and other core players may follow, well here is proof for Ten Hag because by losing some of the team strength of course he must find a suitable replacement and mistakes like at Man Utd must not be repeated because Leverkusen is not that rich they have just risen.

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June 04, 2025, 12:51:05 PM
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Hopefully, Ten Hag succeeds with Leverkusen, especially because Ten Hag is not really ready and can handle tough competition like the Premier League. Bundesliga will be different. If he can communicate well with his players, he might be able to adapt immediately to his new team. It's just that many doubt, hopefully, he answers those doubts with achievements with Leverkusen.

Fr Most of you lots here are toxic bums. Before Manchester United,  Erik ten Hag was a solid manager and even before all he's won with Ajax, he previously won with a lower club in that same league competition. I see no reason for him to fail. He is a winner and wherever he goes he wins. Xabi Alonso has left him a good performing side, I will see what he adds and removes from it. A new goalkeeper just joined from Brentford,  I hope he's learning from hos failings at Manchester United.

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June 04, 2025, 01:17:08 PM
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The change of coach chair that can not be stopped completely and maybe Leverkusen fans are a little disappointed but let the past be the past now in the Ten Hag era there is a sense of doubt for us and there is a possibility that next season Leverkusen will not be able to perform like in Xabi hands the reason is quite simple Writz left and other core players may follow, well here is proof for Ten Hag because by losing some of the team strength of course he must find a suitable replacement and mistakes like at Man Utd must not be repeated because Leverkusen is not that rich they have just risen.
Of course, a lot will depend on which players stay in the team and who leaves. But knowing how Ten Hag works, I can assume that he will demand new transfers from the management. And now it’s very important to see how he performs this time because his work at Manchester United has been, to put it mildly, barely satisfactory. The disappointment of some fans is understandable, for them Alonso was the one who led their team to the league title, while Ten Hag hasn’t achieved anything significant in the past few seasons.

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June 04, 2025, 01:38:23 PM
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Ajax and Leverkusen both are having same level of system and structure which could be good advantage for Erik ten Hag with these things could be favourable, and he will be able to have some good results which will give good chance of success to him here at Leverkusen. Here good chance for ETH as Leverkusen already have spot into Champions League. This will give better chance of showing his management skills because with this success, he can bring his golden period back but this could be still not easy for both.
The system and way that Leverkusen are playing and have played the last 2 years if very different from what Ajax are playing.
Ten Hag for sure has the chance to bring something new and successful to Leverkusen but i have my doubts about that.
Lets see what he will make and maybe we are all wrong and it was the right move for Leverkusen to get him as an coach.
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June 04, 2025, 01:39:01 PM
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Hopefully, Ten Hag succeeds with Leverkusen, especially because Ten Hag is not really ready and can handle tough competition like the Premier League. Bundesliga will be different. If he can communicate well with his players, he might be able to adapt immediately to his new team. It's just that many doubt, hopefully, he answers those doubts with achievements with Leverkusen.

Fr Most of you lots here are toxic bums. Before Manchester United,  Erik ten Hag was a solid manager and even before all he's won with Ajax, he previously won with a lower club in that same league competition. I see no reason for him to fail. He is a winner and wherever he goes he wins. Xabi Alonso has left him a good performing side, I will see what he adds and removes from it. A new goalkeeper just joined from Brentford,  I hope he's learning from hos failings at Manchester United.

Let's see how Ten Hag brings Leverkusen to compete next season. He got a good team, it's just a matter of how he develops the existing team. Ten Hag should now get a better team than when he came to United. Some of the things he brought were considered unsuccessful, hopefully, that doesn't happen at Leverkusen.
We know Ten Hag can get attention as the coach of United because of the success he had with his previous team. Unfortunately, the results when coaching United made a bad assessment of him.

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June 04, 2025, 01:55:44 PM
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Let's see how Ten Hag brings Leverkusen to compete next season. He got a good team, it's just a matter of how he develops the existing team. Ten Hag should now get a better team than when he came to United. Some of the things he brought were considered unsuccessful, hopefully, that doesn't happen at Leverkusen.
We know Ten Hag can get attention as the coach of United because of the success he had with his previous team. Unfortunately, the results when coaching United made a bad assessment of him.

I think the most under pressured manager at this moment and for next season is Ten Hag and his successor Ruben Amorim at Manchester United this is what Manchester United popularity has done to both managers hopefully they both conquer.

As for Ten Hag I wouldn’t create excuses for him but it is still very early to actually expect anything from him and the set the hopes high. Let me start by this is not Xabi Alonso’s Bayer Leverkusen, they have simply just lost some key players, first was there skipper Jonathan Tah who moved free to Bayern Munich, then their fullback Jeremie Frimpong to Liverpool and then Florian Wirtz is rumored to be going to same Liverpool. We all know how this three players contributed to the club success, with them leaving I hope the players coming to fill this positions have the quality to fill the spot and moreover there will be more outgoing so this Bayer Leverkusen doesn’t look like the one I think will hit the top starting next season

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June 04, 2025, 02:40:02 PM
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but you are ignoring the transfer period. I think Leverkusen will sell many players in the transfer period. Because they will receive very high offers and the players will want to leave the team. In this case, it will be necessary to transfer good players in order for the team to be established better. Technical director Ten Hag needs to bring good players to Bayer Leverkusen. If they cannot transfer quality and young players, they may not be in their current position. Right now, everyone expects Leverkusen to be in the championship race next year. Frankly, he will be the technical director I am most curious about in recent years.
Yeah they will sell some players in order to raise funds and some players on their own will want to be transferred to better teams across Europe or they will go to Saudi to make  money. Ten Hang of course will be needing his own players to replace the transferred ones. Wirtz, from what I read has already agreed personal terms with Liverpool and the deal will be finalised soonest but even though he doesn't go to Liverpool, he will still go to another European top club.

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June 04, 2025, 03:37:18 PM
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It's a fact and we must accept it, all I can wish for now is the greatest success and as I said what remains is to hope for the best from people , when they go through unpleasant situations they learn and do things right, maybe this is Ten Hag's Revenge for what he experienced at MU, I do believe that people will change for the better, it may be that Ten Hag will do a great job and keep Leverkusen in a high position, which is a team that many of us have grown very Fond of, that's why we don't want this club to be harmed.


We pray for the best for Leverkusen and hopefully it will come true. Because, it would be a shame if a team that for several seasons was able to compete at the top actually experienced a very significant decline in performance. and next season bayer leverkusen will get a ticket to the champions league again, I hope that the competition is also part of ETH's plan for leverkusen.

And moving on to another team, at the end of this season the team that caught our attention was eintracht franfurt, where for the beginning of the season they performed very well and I even thought maybe they could be one of the candidates to be able to compete for the championship title, but it is very unfortunate that they released omar marmoush too soon which made the team's consistency decrease slightly. but fortunately they were able to return to the top position and get a ticket to the champions league next season. And eintracht is a team that rarely plays in the champions league, so I feel happy they are there.

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June 04, 2025, 03:55:52 PM
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Not only you and probably most people doubt Ten Hag because he had a failure at Manchester United but we need to trust him and hope he can do much better. Kompany also did not prove to be a great coach when he came to Bayern Munich but he was able to give his best slowly. What made Kompany who he is now is because he has the support and quality players in the team. This is what Leverkusen's management needs to do so that Ten Hag can also give his best for the club's success. If he was able to achieve success as Ajax coach why not give him the chance to achieve success at Leverkusen.
The Dutch League is not the same as the Bundesliga and you can see an example of this in Amorim who was not immediately successful in the English League with Manchester United but in the Portuguese League Amorim was really not bad in coaching the Sporting CP team. So it's not just about past success that must continue to be expressed by some people even though it has become a fact recorded in history, but it is more about modern tactics that must be possessed by coaches and there should be no bigger egos that make players uncomfortable with the coaching style of a coach.

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June 04, 2025, 04:28:44 PM
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Leverkusen's choice of Ten Hag does not seem to see the bad statistics with Man United. This means they are ready to accept bad risks. I don't know how he will do at Leverkusen. The Bundesliga and EPL have different tempos. Maybe the Bundesliga is more like the Netherlands. Their tempo is not much different, so it is possible that Ten Hag can adjust quickly like at Ajax. I think besides the coach there are many other factors like the transfer market that can make a difference.
Ten Hag's failure with Man United cannot be used as a reference because if you look at Ten Hag's previous success with Ajax, that can also be a consideration.
Leverkusen does not have many options and also the money to be able to build a team like Bayern Munich, so I do not have high expectations for them because we also have to be realistic with the squad in the Leverkusen team compared to the Bayern Munich team.


His stay at Manchester United done good damage to his image even his performance was not bad as peoples are talking he is still decent coach his overall success ratio is 61.95% in last 13 years which is telling about his performance.

5 trophies at Ajax and 2 trophies at Manchester United mean he can do good work if had good support from players and management peoples needed to be realistic about few things Ruben Amorim performance is worse than Eric Ten Hag so now it's time for calm and wait how things will be work for him here at Leverkusen in coming year. After Xabi Alonso lost now they are also on verge of losing their few top players this could be surely huge setback, but he had good time for bringing good players which can work good under his management here.

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but you are ignoring the transfer period. I think Leverkusen will sell many players in the transfer period. Because they will receive very high offers and the players will want to leave the team. In this case, it will be necessary to transfer good players in order for the team to be established better. Technical director Ten Hag needs to bring good players to Bayer Leverkusen. If they cannot transfer quality and young players, they may not be in their current position. Right now, everyone expects Leverkusen to be in the championship race next year. Frankly, he will be the technical director I am most curious about in recent years.
That is good to focus on transfer period for Bayer Leverkusen especially after their amazing undefeated win in 2023-2024 Bundesliga season because successful teams mostly face challenge of their best players getting big offers from other clubs which makes transfer window very important time. Your point about needing to bring in good young players to replace anyone who leaves is spot on as their ability to stay in championship race next year will depend heavily on making smart new signings. If they can not replace key players well it will be hard to repeat their success.

Sure. If they sell some of their players, it’s mandatory to get in players that are better than the ones they sold. I think that is how it is supposed to work. If they sell their players, they should get in new ones that will replace the old ones, although Bayer Leverkusen need new players for their mission ahead of the next season. We all know that they wish to be at the top this season. Bayern Munich were stronger than them, so definitely they will strengthen their squad for next season. The Bundesliga and Champions League are their next priority in the coming season.

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June 04, 2025, 09:08:31 PM
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Fr Most of you lots here are toxic bums. Before Manchester United,  Erik ten Hag was a solid manager and even before all he's won with Ajax, he previously won with a lower club in that same league competition. I see no reason for him to fail. He is a winner and wherever he goes he wins. Xabi Alonso has left him a good performing side, I will see what he adds and removes from it. A new goalkeeper just joined from Brentford,  I hope he's learning from hos failings at Manchester United.

How much money did Erik ten Hag spend on signings at Manchester United?

answer: $807m

https://www.goal.com/en/lists/erik-ten-hag-man-utd-signings-ranked/blte734c9451e89fd5e

The guy spent a lot of money and had a lot of time to put together a winning team and he couldn't, so this isn't toxic, this is real, you can research this data yourself, it's real, it's not fake news, it's not just people's opinions, it's real data. When a coach has unlimited resources to be able to sign any player and still he fails, then the problem is with him. And anyone will have a lot of doubts about him in relation to Leverkusen, which doesn't have the same background that Manchester United has. At Leverkusen he can fail too.

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June 04, 2025, 09:32:07 PM
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but you are ignoring the transfer period. I think Leverkusen will sell many players in the transfer period. Because they will receive very high offers and the players will want to leave the team. In this case, it will be necessary to transfer good players in order for the team to be established better. Technical director Ten Hag needs to bring good players to Bayer Leverkusen. If they cannot transfer quality and young players, they may not be in their current position. Right now, everyone expects Leverkusen to be in the championship race next year. Frankly, he will be the technical director I am most curious about in recent years.
That is good to focus on transfer period for Bayer Leverkusen especially after their amazing undefeated win in 2023-2024 Bundesliga season because successful teams mostly face challenge of their best players getting big offers from other clubs which makes transfer window very important time. Your point about needing to bring in good young players to replace anyone who leaves is spot on as their ability to stay in championship race next year will depend heavily on making smart new signings. If they can not replace key players well it will be hard to repeat their success.
The structure of Bayer Leverkusen next year is very, very important. They will play with a new coach and the players will need to be in harmony with him. They should complete the transfers quickly so that the new transfers can contribute well to the team. Their return to the championship in Germany depends only on perfect planning.

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