CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

[Spoetnik]

I bet you also didn't know that Paul Vernon and his wife, Lorie, served in the Army together in the intelligence division, but she didn't have a clue as to what her husband was up to, perhaps because her clearance was lower than Paul's who advised 3-, 4- and 5-Star Generals at Ft Hood during the exact same timeframe that Paul and Jim Shockney were building porn websites.

You bet wrong... I read a link that mentioned about him meeting his wife in the army but there was no mention of her Chinese heritage.

However, I did not know that he was building porn websites whilst in the army. I knew he was involved in a posting DVD business too which he sold to a competitor. I am still unsure as to the exact significance of who Jim Shockney is and what he did.

I have seen pic's from Vern for many years.. many of them showed him with his wife.
You can tell by the picture she is Asian.. let alone any other info on the matter.
So she sure as hell looks Chinese to me or Asian anyway LOL

Noob you made your first mistake.. telling Bruno he's wrong. ROFL
And you don't know Jim's significance ?
We do.. we were here all along.
I signed up at Cryptsy about 1.5 months after they opened in 2013.
I was there LONG before Shockney showed up.

Once again i suggest you do your homework.
You want all the info and seem curious so there isn't any way around it.. read the 500 pages here LOL

@Roombot
Middle name = Vlad

@spamsucks
To be clear it was the users who mentioned that idea ..not staff that i know of.

@Gleb
LOL many get credits for sure.. where is that Hippietech guy ? hahahah

And if anyone cares i put "Antigua" for a weird reason.
They actually won a court case against the US govt before that permitted them to "pirate" US media etc
I always got a kick out of that story i read years ago on TorrentFreak. (sorry i don't have the link)

And nope.. I'm a guy in Kelowna BC Canada that gets told i look half my ages all the time.
I'm turning 42 this year and like DEATH METAL and cigarettes and eat painkillers for fun (and sometimes back problems)
I worship the devil, support Piracy and FUD      

But Vern may be a bad man for stealing shit but his ultimate sin is ?
Being boring on the internet.
That is hands down the worst thing anyone can ever do online. (being an insufferable bore)

@Horus
That is all the BTC i have now hahahha
If i believed his shoes comment i might have donated too but i am skeptical.
I also bet the guy is from the Ukraine or some shit where each shoe is sold separately  

I'd say to him don't give it to me.
I just keep giving away my BTC.. last time i gave it to a dev at XDA forums.
Or it sits all year long doing nothing somewhere while i get more rolling in from some faucet referrals that pay me out all year long. (even though i don't use the faucet)
In other words i don't give 2 shits about "coins" anymore.

Horus you should have paid him in Hobonickels  

Horus is the most legit one in Cryptsy guys and i said that since day fucking one !
No one ever gave me such a fair shake on the troll box over at Cryptsy years ago..
When others were itching to ban me he would simply make an effort to get shit working.
The guy has a personality that lends well to conflict resolution but..
Probably made him a tad bit naive when it came to trust the other Cryptsy guys.

A key point to take away from this is don't be so trusting of your "friends"..
Especially Internet friends.

But yeah Horus can deserve some shit thrown his way and i won't jump in to deny it.
But we have pretty much only seen him show his face and try and make things right. (not other ex-staff)
It's Horus actions that speak here.
His real actions are better than all the other ex-staffers combined.

I've always said it pays to be honest.
People can take a lot of bullshit if you are honest and upfront about it.
If you fucked up then say so and move on.. we will probably be able to forgive you to some extent.
But hide in silence or lie & bullshit and it makes problems grow larger.

People make mistakes..

[JollyGood]

I sent it because he said his kids needed shoes and I believed him. A part of me suspected it was the ol " scam horus because he is the only connection we have left to a company that fucked everyone "  but I gave him the benefit of the doubt. I have apologized plenty of times for being tricked by Cryptsy. The numbers I saw when speaking to you such as account balances and everything else were faked in my admin panel as I had no access to see company wallet balances. When I saw numbers, I assumed it was ok, which as I have stated multiple times before was wrong. I am deeply sorry that things went down the way they did. I have done nothing but try to help fix anything within my power to help with in the community because of it. I know me saying sorry doesn't fix things, but that combined with helping the receiver recover what they could, is all I have the power to do. I have less than 500 bucks in my bank account at the moment and about 0.1 btc, but figured if his kids needed shoes and it was within my power, I should do it. Turns out he doesn't need kids shoes, but if he donates it to a refugee who comes to his country I honestly am not upset with it. Still goes to helping someone. I'm sorry again for the way things turned out and I am sorry that I was tricked into thinking things were ok and relaying that as confidently as I did to you.

To be honest that was a wonderful post from you. You seem a sincere person with a sincere apology for what happened with Cryptsy even though you were not responsible otherwise you probably would have either have fled with Paul Vernon to China or you would have been arrested.

Paul Vernon scammed us out of money. This guy scammed you out of money. One scam may have netted more money but nonetheless both are the same for what they are: scams

As for the chap you sent $100 to, basically he lied to get something from you. Him saying he will donate it to charity does not bode well with anyone at all. The right thing to do is for him to return it to you and if you so wish you can donate it yourself or better still keep it as it is your money. Why should you make payments to people who claim to have lost money in the Cryptsy scam?

Thank you for your open and honest reply

[YuTü.Co.in]

I bet you also didn't know that Paul Vernon and his wife, Lorie, served in the Army together in the intelligence division, but she didn't have a clue as to what her husband was up to, perhaps because her clearance was lower than Paul's who advised 3-, 4- and 5-Star Generals at Ft Hood during the exact same timeframe that Paul and Jim Shockney were building porn websites.

You bet wrong... I read a link that mentioned about him meeting his wife in the army but there was no mention of her Chinese heritage.

However, I did not know that he was building porn websites whilst in the army. I knew he was involved in a posting DVD business too which he sold to a competitor. I am still unsure as to the exact significance of who Jim Shockney is and what he did.

I have seen pic's from Vern for many years.. many of them showed him with his wife.
You can tell by the picture she is Asian.. let alone any other info on the matter.
So she sure as hell looks Chinese to me or Asian anyway LOL

Noob you made your first mistake.. telling Bruno he's wrong. ROFL
And you don't know Jim's significance ?
We do.. we were here all along.
I signed up at Cryptsy about 1.5 months after they opened in 2013.
I was there LONG before Shockney showed up.

Once again i suggest you do your homework.
You want all the info and seem curious so there isn't any way around it.. read the 500 pages here LOL

@Roombot
Middle name = Vlad

@spamsucks
To be clear it was the users who mentioned that idea ..not staff that i know of.

@Gleb
LOL many get credits for sure.. where is that Hippietech guy ? hahahah

And if anyone cares i put "Antigua" for a weird reason.
They actually won a court case against the US govt before that permitted them to "pirate" US media etc
I always got a kick out of that story i read years ago on TorrentFreak. (sorry i don't have the link)

And nope.. I'm a guy in Kelowna BC Canada that gets told i look half my ages all the time.
I'm turning 42 this year and like DEATH METAL and cigarettes and eat painkillers for fun (and sometimes back problems)
I worship the devil, support Piracy and FUD      

But Vern may be a bad man for stealing shit but his ultimate sin is ?
Being boring on the internet.
That is hands down the worst thing anyone can ever do online. (being an insufferable bore)

@Horus
That is all the BTC i have now hahahha
If i believed his shoes comment i might have donated too but i am skeptical.
I also bet the guy is from the Ukraine or some shit where each shoe is sold separately  

I'd say to him don't give it to me.
I just keep giving away my BTC.. last time i gave it to a dev at XDA forums.
Or it sits all year long doing nothing somewhere while i get more rolling in from some faucet referrals that pay me out all year long. (even though i don't use the faucet)
In other words i don't give 2 shits about "coins" anymore.

Horus you should have paid him in Hobonickels  

Horus is the most legit one in Cryptsy guys and i said that since day fucking one !
No one ever gave me such a fair shake on the troll box over at Cryptsy years ago..
When others were itching to ban me he would simply make an effort to get shit working.
The guy has a personality that lends well to conflict resolution but..
Probably made him a tad bit naive when it came to trust the other Cryptsy guys.

A key point to take away from this is don't be so trusting of your "friends"..
Especially Internet friends.

But yeah Horus can deserve some shit thrown his way and i won't jump in to deny it.
But we have pretty much only seen him show his face and try and make things right. (not other ex-staff)
It's Horus actions that speak here.
His real actions are better than all the other ex-staffers combined.

I've always said it pays to be honest.
People can take a lot of bullshit if you are honest and upfront about it.
If you fucked up then say so and move on.. we will probably be able to forgive you to some extent.
But hide in silence or lie & bullshit and it makes problems grow larger.

People make mistakes..

Spoetnik, the dude resides in Romania (like VladVladVlad) not the Ukraine. Speaking of Vlad, I love fuckin with him in a good way on his "Riddle" thread. I look forward to hopefully one day meeting him in person. I believe I was once critical of him but learnt to love the tard.

@Horus: You have an open invitation to be part of Team YuTü.Co.in, serving in any capacity you deem fit for the skillsets you possess. Salary will be no less than prevailing and is a full time position. I've opted to offer this to you publicly oppose to behind off-channel(s). To know that you're secere, please remit to me your remaining less-than-U$500 and ~0.1 BTC, and a serving of haggis, neeps, and tatties.   (ONLY KIDDING!; no payment required; this is a genuine offer, bud)

Bruno

PS: @JollyGood: You, too, feel free to apply for a Team YuTü.Co.in position, same for Spoetnik, opting to not leave him out for fear of him crying a river and flooding all of Canada.  

[dac10]

I see there are many judges here.
@Spoetnik, I bet you know everything... Can you explain this sentence better?
"I also bet the guy is from the Ukraine or some shit where each shoe is sold separately"

@Jollygood, who are you to judge? The money I received from Horus goes to charity!!! Ok? Or do not you know what charity is?
For me, Horus, he's always an accomplice, even though he's a good guy.

[JollyGood]

@Jollygood, who are you to judge? The money I received from Horus goes to charity!!! Ok? Or do not you know what charityis?
For me, Horus, he's always an accomplice, even though he's a good guy.

I understand your point about judging and also about your sentiments toward Horus_Cryptsy being an accomplice but you effectively lied to get money from someone so how does that make you a better person than Paul Vernon?

I do not know much about Horus_Cryptsy but his actions lean towards him being innocent of Paul Vernon's crimes otherwise he would also be in China or maybe in jail.

[dac10]

@Jollygood, who are you to judge? The money I received from Horus goes to charity!!! Ok? Or do not you know what charityis?
For me, Horus, he's always an accomplice, even though he's a good guy.

I understand your point about judging and also about your sentiments toward Horus_Cryptsy being an accomplice but you effectively lied to get money from someone so how does that make you a better person than Paul Vernon?

I do not know much about Horus_Cryptsy but his actions lean towards him being innocent of Paul Vernon's crimes otherwise he would also be in China or maybe in jail.

Read it well, I told Horus "of course I played", so I did not lied!!!
If Horus wants, I will return them immediately      0.03184

[JollyGood]

Read well, I told Horus "of course I played", so I did not lite!!!
If Horus wants, I will return them immediately      0.031963  btc.

dac10 relax... feelings will always run high on issues regarding Cryptsy for those of us that got scammed. Sorry about your loss, let us hope that justice is served if/when Paul Vernon gets caught

[Gleb Gamow]

I hate to do it, but I'm gonna do it anyway - here's a clip of Spoetnik just found on YouTube -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrgnaN8_w-w&t=108

[Spoetnik]

I see there are many judges here.
@Spoetnik, I bet you know everything... Can you explain this sentence better?
"I also bet the guy is from the Ukraine or some shit where each shoe is sold separately"

@Jollygood, who are you to judge? The money I received from Horus goes to charity!!! Ok? Or do not you know what charity is?
For me, Horus, he's always an accomplice, even though he's a good guy.

Shoes ?
It's a segway joke i stole directly from an old episode of the TV series Family Guy.

Here is a screen cap of the exact episode i am referring to..



Applies in this context here because half the people that speak in the English section do not understand English.

@Bruno
Thanks
But like i said i am done with the whole coins thing.. i don't like the climate these days.
Plus i am lazy.
I also went back down to a small screen then got a 32 inch one.
Problem is it's summer here in Canada and it heats up my room big time.
So i basically use my Tablet to surf the web most days which is shitty and very restrictive / limiting for me.
I have central AC too but it still gets mega hot with the screen on

But i can send my buddy Phil down with a case of Bud Light to help you out though.
You see we are are getting such a heat wave it's melting all our igloos & shit
So he can ride down on his raft and probably be there in a week or two.. depending on currents.
..keep an eye out by any beaches on the pacific coast for the next few months.



@Jollygood
I tend to agree.
He can only play dumb about so much of it.
The writing was on the wall far before Horus threatened to quit. (and never did)
Money makes people do things they shouldn't.
I think he just wanted to keep his job.. being out of work sucks.

@Bruno
Close but i am taller and thin'ish like Kramer instead of George.
The snacks part is right though.
Funny you mention that because i still watch Seinfeld regularly.
One of my all time favorite TV shows.
I use to have the scene DVDRips for them all but lost them in a 1 terabyte drive full of shows that died.
SO when i looked on Torrent sites i was surprised to see they were available on Pirate Bay etc as remastered 16:9 720p high quality rips now.
No more shitty ass 4:3 aspect ratio
But yeah i fire up WMC on Win7 and run the series through watching of hours a lot while i do stuff on or off the PC.

People probably don't get it but Bruno likes to give me a hard time about snacks.
I am always loaded up hard with stock piles of snacks of all kinds.
No worries though because i stay active and don't get fat

But yeah Cryptsy.. LOL
Hey HippieTech if you are reading this i got a news tidbit for you.
Recall posting on this topic lots about Muddafudda ?
Well i got a PM from him recently and i posted on a topic he created in the scam section.
Apparently he popped up not long ago saying someone stole his account.
Which you may recall you thought he was Crestington who i can confirm his identity.
He gave me another picture of him and told me where he works in my town.
Is Cresty Mudda ? i am not sure.
mudda has always claimed to be from Australia so i i dunno i kinda doubt it.
So..
maybe that bit of info will get ole HipieTech back on this topic stiring shit up with more juicy Cryptsy drama info ?
He can come back and tell all the noobs who don't want to read rants by Spoetnik/Gamow what is what.

Oh and many of you noobs probably don't know what the fuck is going on here half the time.
Bruno is the real name of Yutucoin guy and Gleb Gamow and Phin Gage and a few others.
he has probably more posts combined than anyone on this whole forum.
His Phin Gage account has top 10 of all time posts counts pretty much.
So Bruno has been around and is scam hater !
he's been known to really stick it to some assholes who deserved it and we all love him for it.
He's a bit nuts but we love him for it..

Here is Bruno on a leash (i had to do it) enjoy.   
I liked the one where he was dancing in the street more though. (there is a bunch from that Bitcoin meeting)

[Horus_Cryptsy]

I see there are many judges here.
@Spoetnik, I bet you know everything... Can you explain this sentence better?
"I also bet the guy is from the Ukraine or some shit where each shoe is sold separately"

@Jollygood, who are you to judge? The money I received from Horus goes to charity!!! Ok? Or do not you know what charity is?
For me, Horus, he's always an accomplice, even though he's a good guy.

Shoes ?
It's a segway joke i stole directly from an old episode of the TV series Family Guy.

Here is a screen cap of the exact episode i am referring to..



Applies in this context here because half the people that speak in the English section do not understand English.

@Bruno
Thanks
But like i said i am done with the whole coins thing.. i don't like the climate these days.
Plus i am lazy.
I also went back down to a small screen then got a 32 inch one.
Problem is it's summer here in Canada and it heats up my room big time.
So i basically use my Tablet to surf the web most days which is shitty and very restrictive / limiting for me.
I have central AC too but it still gets mega hot with the screen on

But i can send my buddy Phil down with a case of Bud Light to help you out though.
You see we are are getting such a heat wave it's melting all our igloos & shit
So he can ride down on his raft and probably be there in a week or two.. depending on currents.
..keep an eye out by any beaches on the pacific coast for the next few months.



@Jollygood
I tend to agree.
He can only play dumb about so much of it.
The writing was on the wall far before Horus threatened to quit. (and never did)
Money makes people do things they shouldn't.
I think he just wanted to keep his job.. being out of work sucks.

Not long after I threatened to resign on the forum, I got a phone call from Jim saying the decision was made to let me go. That is when I knew something was seriously wrong and that internal foul play may be involved, other than just a "hacker".  After that I was the first employee to contact the receiver and tell them everything I knew. I agree though, I didn't want to be out of a job. Cryptsy stiffed me on my last pay and my pay was getting smaller and smaller. I had to sell my playstation on kijiji in order to rent a moving truck to get out of the company condo about 2 months early because I was afraid of what would happen, because I knew shit was bad and that someone fucked up majorly. In hindsight, I wish I left months before but I was blindly loyal and I learned first hand of where being blindly loyal can lead you.

Also, dac10, if you want to send those back, here is an addy 1ArbDoZ4BToUP4fowgBCtwBz8ccByt7beA

As I've said before here guys, I'm an open book. Technically Cryptsy is still a company owned by the receiver, so as far as I know my NDA is still valid until after settlement is reached. I will answer what I can if anyone has more questions, but I feel most questions that could be asked, have already been asked and answered in older posts. But , if you have any new ones, please don't hesitate to ask.

[o0o0]

@horus

so after settlement is done and nda lifted can you tell us everything you arent allowed to tell us?

[JollyGood]

Not long after I threatened to resign on the forum, I got a phone call from Jim saying the decision was made to let me go. That is when I knew something was seriously wrong and that internal foul play may be involved, other than just a "hacker".  After that I was the first employee to contact the receiver and tell them everything I knew. I agree though, I didn't want to be out of a job. Cryptsy stiffed me on my last pay and my pay was getting smaller and smaller. I had to sell my playstation on kijiji in order to rent a moving truck to get out of the company condo about 2 months early because I was afraid of what would happen, because I knew shit was bad and that someone fucked up majorly. In hindsight, I wish I left months before but I was blindly loyal and I learned first hand of where being blindly loyal can lead you.

Also, dac10, if you want to send those back, here is an addy 1ArbDoZ4BToUP4fowgBCtwBz8ccByt7beA

As I've said before here guys, I'm an open book. Technically Cryptsy is still a company owned by the receiver, so as far as I know my NDA is still valid until after settlement is reached. I will answer what I can if anyone has more questions, but I feel most questions that could be asked, have already been asked and answered in older posts. But , if you have any new ones, please don't hesitate to ask.

Much respect to you Horus_Cryptsy for your honesty. It cannot be easy to justify your actions on a regular basis to those that were scammed but thank you for trying to best to keep composed while providing whatever clarity you can. So for someone like me that was away from Cryptos for a long time it provides much needed information. Thank you.

Please correct me if I am wrong but according to your previous post the company (Cryptsy) provided you with a rent free apartment or heavily subsidised one? When your pay was getting smaller and smaller what did you do to get your correct salary? Did this Jim bloke pay your backdated missing salary when he telephoned you to sack you? And where exactly is this Jim character now? Did he get arrested, questioned and so on? If not is he playing ignorant like Paul Vernon's wife claiming he knew nothing and was just an employee?

When the website closed did you actually lose coins in the scam as well? If so how much and BTW sorry to learn about your Playstation. Not nice what happened to you along with all of us that got scammed.

[Gleb Gamow]

Not long after I threatened to resign on the forum, I got a phone call from Jim saying the decision was made to let me go. That is when I knew something was seriously wrong and that internal foul play may be involved, other than just a "hacker".  After that I was the first employee to contact the receiver and tell them everything I knew. I agree though, I didn't want to be out of a job. Cryptsy stiffed me on my last pay and my pay was getting smaller and smaller. I had to sell my playstation on kijiji in order to rent a moving truck to get out of the company condo about 2 months early because I was afraid of what would happen, because I knew shit was bad and that someone fucked up majorly. In hindsight, I wish I left months before but I was blindly loyal and I learned first hand of where being blindly loyal can lead you.

Also, dac10, if you want to send those back, here is an addy 1ArbDoZ4BToUP4fowgBCtwBz8ccByt7beA

As I've said before here guys, I'm an open book. Technically Cryptsy is still a company owned by the receiver, so as far as I know my NDA is still valid until after settlement is reached. I will answer what I can if anyone has more questions, but I feel most questions that could be asked, have already been asked and answered in older posts. But , if you have any new ones, please don't hesitate to ask.

Much respect to you Horus_Cryptsy for your honesty. It cannot be easy to justify your actions on a regular basis to those that were scammed but thank you for trying to best to keep composed while providing whatever clarity you can. So for someone like me that was away from Cryptos for a long time it provides much needed information. Thank you.

Please correct me if I am wrong but according to your previous post the company (Cryptsy) provided you with a rent free apartment or heavily subsidised one? When your pay was getting smaller and smaller what did you do to get your correct salary? Did this Jim bloke pay your backdated missing salary when he telephoned you to sack you? And where exactly is this Jim character now? Did he get arrested, questioned and so on? If not is he playing ignorant like Paul Vernon's wife claiming he knew nothing and was just an employee?

When the website closed did you actually lose coins in the scam as well? If so how much and BTW sorry to learn about your Playstatio. Not nice what happened to you along with all of us that got scammed.

Jim and his wife, Ginny, still live on a small farm complete with farm animals I think they fuck in Texas. Their address is known but hit me up publicly if you can't find it. They both still run the Library of Thumbs porn site.

Thanks, Spoetnik, for the kinds words. TBC, not always do I get my scam busting facts correct but I keep coming up to bat like Babe Ruth, hitting a many outta the park.

Coach signaling Babe who's on first: Steal second!
Babe signaling back: Fuck you! I'm only here because the pitcher accidently walked my fat ass, else I'd be in the dugout after striking out or be rounding third right about now while the ball I hit just came to a stop alongside some curb outside the park.

[JollyGood]

Jim and his wife, Ginny, still live on a small farm complete with farm animals I think they fuck in Texas. Their address is known but hit me up publicly if you can't find it. They both still run the Library of Thumbs porn site.

If I entered the domain correctly it is registered to an individual that remains anonymous but registered in Panama.

Does anyone know if this Jim bloke was questioned by law enforcement officers regarding the Cryptsy collapse.

If he was questioned, what happened and why was he released?

If was not questioned, why was this the case?

[Gleb Gamow]

Jim and his wife, Ginny, still live on a small farm complete with farm animals I think they fuck in Texas. Their address is known but hit me up publicly if you can't find it. They both still run the Library of Thumbs porn site.

If I entered the domain correctly it is registered to an individual that remains anonymous but registered in Panama.

Does anyone know if this Jim bloke was questioned by law enforcement officers regarding the Cryptsy collapse.

If he was questioned, what happened and why was he released?

If was not questioned, why was this the case?

Here's a question: How do we truly know that you're not Paul Vernon asking questions about your long-time partner, Jim Shockney, in seeing if he sung to the authorities? That's how your line of questioning comes across.

Here's a great post about Jim: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg16737361#msg16737361

Here's Paul Vernon's old porn site: https://web.archive.org/web/20000925161602/http://www.dudu-sex.com:80/ Yes, it's in Chinese, most likely penned by Lorie who didn't have a fuckin clue as to what her loving husband was up to so she got a quarter of a million dollars of Cryptsy's users' money from the sale of their million-dollar home which, again, Lorie didn't have a fuckin clue as to where the money came from to purchase to brand new home.

[JollyGood]

Here's a question: How do we truly know that you're not Paul Vernon asking questions about your long-time partner, Jim Shockney, in seeing if he sung to the authorities? That's how your line of questioning comes across.

Paul Vernon would no doubt contact his friends himself to ascertain what was what...

So does anyone know what happened to this Jim bloke if/when the law enforcement officers spoke to him?

[Gleb Gamow]

Here's a question: How do we truly know that you're not Paul Vernon asking questions about your long-time partner, Jim Shockney, in seeing if he sung to the authorities? That's how your line of questioning comes across.

Paul Vernon would no doubt contact his friends himself to ascertain what was what...

So does anyone know what happened to this Jim bloke if/when the law enforcement officers spoke to him?

Call and ask him yourself: 602-386-0115. It ain't rocket science.

[JollyGood]

Call and ask him yourself: 602-386-0115. It ain't rocket science.

Gleb Gamow I see there is a lot of frustration in you. Feel free to ignore my posts.

As for anyone else that can elaborate on why this Jim bloke that has been so heavily linked by Gleb Gamow and others as a Cryptsy scammer is not in prison, please reply.

Surely someone knows why a man so heavily linked with a scam that netted millions is living on a farm in Texas instead of sharing a tiny cell in a prison worse than Alcatraz with a couple of dudes that miss their wives

[JollyGood]

@Jollygood
I tend to agree.
He can only play dumb about so much of it.
The writing was on the wall far before Horus threatened to quit. (and never did)
Money makes people do things they shouldn't.
I think he just wanted to keep his job.. being out of work sucks.



Oh and many of you noobs probably don't know what the fuck is going on here half the time.
Bruno is the real name of Yutucoin guy and Gleb Gamow and Phin Gage and a few others.
he has probably more posts combined than anyone on this whole forum.
His Phin Gage account has top 10 of all time posts counts pretty much.
So Bruno has been around and is scam hater !
he's been known to really stick it to some assholes who deserved it and we all love him for it.
He's a bit nuts but we love him for it..

Ah that makes sense now... this Bruno chap uses multiple aliases (maybe add Mikeusn to your list as he is trolling me) and he has a very suspicious mind too.

[Gleb Gamow]

@Jollygood
I tend to agree.
He can only play dumb about so much of it.
The writing was on the wall far before Horus threatened to quit. (and never did)
Money makes people do things they shouldn't.
I think he just wanted to keep his job.. being out of work sucks.



Oh and many of you noobs probably don't know what the fuck is going on here half the time.
Bruno is the real name of Yutucoin guy and Gleb Gamow and Phin Gage and a few others.
he has probably more posts combined than anyone on this whole forum.
His Phin Gage account has top 10 of all time posts counts pretty much.
So Bruno has been around and is scam hater !
he's been known to really stick it to some assholes who deserved it and we all love him for it.
He's a bit nuts but we love him for it..

Ah that makes sense now... this Bruno chap uses multiple aliases (maybe add Mikeusn to your list as he is trolling me) and he has a very suspicious mind too.

What a fuckin idiot! ALL my "multiple aliases" are known and sorry to report but the Mikeusn user account is not under by control. Dude, I already informed you once that you're being discussed on other channels with others saying that you may be Paul Vernon, with myself not strongly in that camp until I posted above, now espousing the claim as a strong possibility.

Which brings us up to now where you opt to employ the very tactic used by previous nefarious actors to discredit me. Me so sad that it has to come to this again.   What next? You quoting Leroy Fodor quoting Joshua Zipkin? If not versed, please let me know, whereupon I'll kindly provide you the link in giving you more fodder to attack my character.

Speaking of finding links, you don't seem to have too much of an issue finding links when it suits you, but come here a beggin' for resources for whatever your agenda is over and beyond increasing your post count.

That said, I withdraw my offer in having you work on my project because I have ... wait for it ... a lot of frustration in me that you won't be able to handle, girlfriend.

Bruno (just one of my aliases - there's 75 more on this forum