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June 11, 2017, 06:49:19 PM
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I was meaning to check who the OP was of this thread, and just remembered to check.

Anyone know where he is or what happened?


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June 11, 2017, 07:21:13 PM
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With that ruling, there is actually a chance that many will get paid, the court discovery contains the location of the sealed DB server that was brought into the case and that discovery states that there are around 47,000 users.  The total value that was settled upon, based upon the locked amount is around 18% of the value of the sealed holdings that the company still has access to, so it would be silly for them not to pay that out.

How would that fit in with people that have not joined the class action against Coinbase or Cryptsy and did not have a Coinbase wallet?

On the basis that Coinbase was used by Cryptsy to funnel or defraud their customers and a judgement is made against Coinbase then what would be a good way forward for people like me who live outside the USA who hope to get compensated for Cryptsy collapsing?


I dont think this is related to the cryptsy settlement. This is a separate action against coinbase and will be handled differently. If I understand correctly, the suit is abut how coinbase assisted Vern in stealing customer funds through negligence. If that is indeed the case, you would not need to have had a coinbase account to have been affected, just a cryptsy user.

Please correct me if I am mistaken.


Your answer is here:   http://cryptsyreceivership.com/v1/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Class-Action-Lawsuit-Against-Coinbase-for-Aiding-and-Abetting-Theft.pdf

I missed the deadline for the Cryptsy class action. Do you know what other people that missed the deadline are doing to try to get funds back?

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June 11, 2017, 07:23:01 PM
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With that ruling, there is actually a chance that many will get paid, the court discovery contains the location of the sealed DB server that was brought into the case and that discovery states that there are around 47,000 users.  The total value that was settled upon, based upon the locked amount is around 18% of the value of the sealed holdings that the company still has access to, so it would be silly for them not to pay that out.

How would that fit in with people that have not joined the class action against Coinbase or Cryptsy and did not have a Coinbase wallet?

On the basis that Coinbase was used by Cryptsy to funnel or defraud their customers and a judgement is made against Coinbase then what would be a good way forward for people like me who live outside the USA who hope to get compensated for Cryptsy collapsing?


I dont think this is related to the cryptsy settlement. This is a separate action against coinbase and will be handled differently. If I understand correctly, the suit is abut how coinbase assisted Vern in stealing customer funds through negligence. If that is indeed the case, you would not need to have had a coinbase account to have been affected, just a cryptsy user.

Please correct me if I am mistaken.




Your answer is here:   http://cryptsyreceivership.com/v1/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Class-Action-Lawsuit-Against-Coinbase-for-Aiding-and-Abetting-Theft.pdf

I missed the deadline for the Cryptsy class action. Do you know what other people that missed the deadline are doing to try to get funds back?


No I don't


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57. Based on the number of assets deposited and liquidated through CRYPTSY’s
COINBASE account, with full knowledge that CRYPTSY charged its customers a 0.3%
transaction fee on the value of each transaction, COINBASE could not have reasonably believed
that CRYPTSY was conducting nearly $1,700,000,000.00 USD in cryptocurrency exchange
trading business over the stated time period.

58. Likewise, COINBASE could not have reasonably believed that VERNON had
personally mined and owned the $3,300,000.00 USD he deposited and liquidated through his
personal COINBASE account.

XX. Likewise, BitPay could not have reasonably believed that the bitcoin wallet address 1QAHVyRzkmD4j1pU5W89htZ3c6D6E7iWDs registered to BFL by BitPay but at one time declared by BFL, Bitpay AND HashTrade to be owned by HashTrade (proof: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11283333.htm), was used to ONLY process orders paid via bitcoins by BFL users using the licensed BitPay as the third-person payment provider, oppose to liquidating bitcoins transferred to BFL from BitPay using the exact same address, a course of action in which BitPay IS NOT licensed to conduct such transactions, namely because BitPay IS NOT an exchange, but nonetheless, BitPay preceded to liquidate BFL's bitcoins into fiat, depositing over U$10M in numerous banks accounts controlled by Sonny Vleisides, owner of BFL.

If the latter part of the above sounds familiar, it's because Sonny utilized the same ploy for his Laissez Faire City, online casinos (with Jeff Ownby), and Lottery schemes circa 1995-2008. But don't worry, Sonny's on a new track now, finally taking advice from the person who helped raised him during his high school years, namely Jody Drake. ALL FUCKIN DOCUMENTED!!!

EDIT: I forgot to mention that BitPay liquids it's bitcoins to fiat via Coinbase, an entity having a valuation of U$1B (with a B) but needs to garner another U$100M from investors so to make their platform more robust. It's only a coincidence that Coinbase and BitPay have many of the same deep-pocket investors.

Yup, me thinks Coinbase is F*cked.

Don't forget this is an Ongoing LawSuit.

They'll pay out the Settlement to Cryptsy Claimants, kinda like a progress payment in Construction.

Too Bad they set the BTC Price at $330.00

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June 11, 2017, 07:56:30 PM
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Yup, me thinks Coinbase is F*cked.

Don't forget this is an Ongoing LawSuit.

They'll pay out the Settlement to Cryptsy Claimants, kinda like a progress payment in Construction.

Too Bad they set the BTC Price at $330.00

Why does the Cryptsy connection apply just to Coinbase? Did Cryptsy not use Kraken or any other company? If so, can they be dragged in to this?

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June 11, 2017, 08:03:48 PM
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Yup, me thinks Coinbase is F*cked.

Don't forget this is an Ongoing LawSuit.

They'll pay out the Settlement to Cryptsy Claimants, kinda like a progress payment in Construction.

Too Bad they set the BTC Price at $330.00

Why does the Cryptsy connection apply just to Coinbase? Did Cryptsy not use Kraken or any other company? If so, can they be dragged in to this?

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but I think that the lawyers have determined beyond doubt that Kraken wasn't used by the venerable Paul Vernon to launder moneys. Just Coinbase.
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57. Based on the number of assets deposited and liquidated through CRYPTSY’s
COINBASE account, with full knowledge that CRYPTSY charged its customers a 0.3%
transaction fee on the value of each transaction, COINBASE could not have reasonably believed
that CRYPTSY was conducting nearly $1,700,000,000.00 USD in cryptocurrency exchange
trading business over the stated time period.

58. Likewise, COINBASE could not have reasonably believed that VERNON had
personally mined and owned the $3,300,000.00 USD he deposited and liquidated through his
personal COINBASE account.

XX. Likewise, BitPay could not have reasonably believed that the bitcoin wallet address 1QAHVyRzkmD4j1pU5W89htZ3c6D6E7iWDs registered to BFL by BitPay but at one time declared by BFL, Bitpay AND HashTrade to be owned by HashTrade (proof: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11283333.htm), was used to ONLY process orders paid via bitcoins by BFL users using the licensed BitPay as the third-person payment provider, oppose to liquidating bitcoins transferred to BFL from BitPay using the exact same address, a course of action in which BitPay IS NOT licensed to conduct such transactions, namely because BitPay IS NOT an exchange, but nonetheless, BitPay preceded to liquidate BFL's bitcoins into fiat, depositing over U$10M in numerous banks accounts controlled by Sonny Vleisides, owner of BFL.

If the latter part of the above sounds familiar, it's because Sonny utilized the same ploy for his Laissez Faire City, online casinos (with Jeff Ownby), and Lottery schemes circa 1995-2008. But don't worry, Sonny's on a new track now, finally taking advice from the person who helped raised him during his high school years, namely Jody Drake. ALL FUCKIN DOCUMENTED!!!

EDIT: I forgot to mention that BitPay liquids it's bitcoins to fiat via Coinbase, an entity having a valuation of U$1B (with a B) but needs to garner another U$100M from investors so to make their platform more robust. It's only a coincidence that Coinbase and BitPay have many of the same deep-pocket investors.

Yup, me thinks Coinbase is F*cked.

Don't forget this is an Ongoing LawSuit.

They'll pay out the Settlement to Cryptsy Claimants, kinda like a progress payment in Construction.

Too Bad they set the BTC Price at $330.00

Coinbase best had declared all ongoing investigations pertaining to their brand in their prospectus available to all their current investors for their current U$100M funding round or else they'll be slapped with a Vleisides-esque fine and probation and told not to never again forget to forget disclosing such pertinent information.
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June 11, 2017, 10:47:36 PM
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I was meaning to check who the OP was of this thread, and just remembered to check.

Anyone know where he is or what happened?



He got mad at me and Gamow for trolling on this topic or something and sad he was leaving this topic and then went on to create a new one just like this.
Read his comment history Wink https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=123857;sa=showPosts

And he claimed to have worked out his problems with Cryptsy long ago when Vern himself showed up on this topic helping him.

Yup.. Vern seen this topic 400 pages ago.. he knows it's here and he could comment but he's apparently busy.. maybe with JShock flogging "rate coin" via Social Media ?

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June 12, 2017, 12:14:27 AM
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Yup, me thinks Coinbase is F*cked.

Don't forget this is an Ongoing LawSuit.

They'll pay out the Settlement to Cryptsy Claimants, kinda like a progress payment in Construction.

Too Bad they set the BTC Price at $330.00

Why does the Cryptsy connection apply just to Coinbase? Did Cryptsy not use Kraken or any other company? If so, can they be dragged in to this?

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but I think that the lawyers have determined beyond doubt that Kraken wasn't used by the venerable Paul Vernon to launder moneys. Just Coinbase.

COINBASE & maybe now IRS are gonna do their darnedest to track down Perv Vern, methinks. Wouldn't that be great if they went after him for fraud or whatever, for Coinbase to try recover their losses?  Not sure it would fly, but I'd love to see Vern hunted down like the dog he is by an org with big guns.
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June 12, 2017, 12:18:40 AM
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Yup, me thinks Coinbase is F*cked.

Don't forget this is an Ongoing LawSuit.

They'll pay out the Settlement to Cryptsy Claimants, kinda like a progress payment in Construction.

Too Bad they set the BTC Price at $330.00

Why does the Cryptsy connection apply just to Coinbase? Did Cryptsy not use Kraken or any other company? If so, can they be dragged in to this?

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but I think that the lawyers have determined beyond doubt that Kraken wasn't used by the venerable Paul Vernon to launder moneys. Just Coinbase.

COINBASE & maybe now IRS are gonna do their darnedest to track down Perv Vern, methinks. Wouldn't that be great if they went after him for fraud or whatever, for Coinbase to try recover their losses?  Not sure it would fly, but I'd love to see Vern hunted down like the dog he is by an org with big guns.

I don't think anyone needs to track him down, I assume they know where he is. There is also the matter of the unmoved bitcoin, this is what I think is crucial for Vern, from the discussions I have heard other players are unwilling to move on him in the hope of retrieving this. I imagine once that is exhausted it will be open season.


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June 12, 2017, 02:11:31 AM
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Yup, me thinks Coinbase is F*cked.

Don't forget this is an Ongoing LawSuit.

They'll pay out the Settlement to Cryptsy Claimants, kinda like a progress payment in Construction.

Too Bad they set the BTC Price at $330.00

Why does the Cryptsy connection apply just to Coinbase? Did Cryptsy not use Kraken or any other company? If so, can they be dragged in to this?

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but I think that the lawyers have determined beyond doubt that Kraken wasn't used by the venerable Paul Vernon to launder moneys. Just Coinbase.

COINBASE & maybe now IRS are gonna do their darnedest to track down Perv Vern, methinks. Wouldn't that be great if they went after him for fraud or whatever, for Coinbase to try recover their losses?  Not sure it would fly, but I'd love to see Vern hunted down like the dog he is by an org with big guns.

I don't think anyone needs to track him down, I assume they know where he is. There is also the matter of the unmoved bitcoin, this is what I think is crucial for Vern, from the discussions I have heard other players are unwilling to move on him in the hope of retrieving this. I imagine once that is exhausted it will be open season.




i still believe those bitcoin are forever stuck as no one has the keys.
they got lost  in the fracas when vern was frantically trying to erase his tracks by  destroying all the server data.
just my purely speculative theory  ...that is all




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June 12, 2017, 02:12:32 AM
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More on Coinbase customers getting crypto-raped thru their cell phones:

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Dear Coinbase user,

We are notifying you because you currently, or have previously, used the Authy app to protect access to a Coinbase account. Due to a recent increase in sophisticated attacks targeting Coinbase users, we are taking extra precaution to protect your account.

In combination with social engineering and password theft, attackers are porting phone numbers (also known as SIM swapping). Once they fraudulently gain control of a user’s phone number, attackers can add new devices to an existing Authy account and take over access to a linked Coinbase account.

To combat these attacks, we will be automatically disabling the Authy multi-device setting and limiting the ability to use SMS to install Authy....


Oh, no.  Here it comes!!!~    "We got haxxored!"
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More on Coinbase customers getting crypto-raped thru their cell phones:

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Dear Coinbase user,

We are notifying you because you currently, or have previously, used the Authy app to protect access to a Coinbase account. Due to a recent increase in sophisticated attacks targeting Coinbase users, we are taking extra precaution to protect your account.

In combination with social engineering and password theft, attackers are porting phone numbers (also known as SIM swapping). Once they fraudulently gain control of a user’s phone number, attackers can add new devices to an existing Authy account and take over access to a linked Coinbase account.

To combat these attacks, we will be automatically disabling the Authy multi-device setting and limiting the ability to use SMS to install Authy....


Oh, no.  Here it comes!!!~   "We got haxxored!"

I guess that explains the following I just received via email ...


Yes, that came from Coinbase, and no I never signed up on Coinbase, they gleaned my email address perhaps from this forum close to two years ago, I opting to let them continue to send me shit, with all past correspondence non-problematic stemming from their camp.
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More on Coinbase customers getting crypto-raped thru their cell phones:

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Dear Coinbase user,

We are notifying you because you currently, or have previously, used the Authy app to protect access to a Coinbase account. Due to a recent increase in sophisticated attacks targeting Coinbase users, we are taking extra precaution to protect your account.

In combination with social engineering and password theft, attackers are porting phone numbers (also known as SIM swapping). Once they fraudulently gain control of a user’s phone number, attackers can add new devices to an existing Authy account and take over access to a linked Coinbase account.

To combat these attacks, we will be automatically disabling the Authy multi-device setting and limiting the ability to use SMS to install Authy....


Oh, no.  Here it comes!!!~   "We got haxxored!"

I guess that explains the following I just received via email ...


Yes, that came from Coinbase, and no I never signed up on Coinbase, they gleaned my email address perhaps from this forum close to two years ago, I opting to let them continue to send me shit, with all past correspondence non-problematic stemming from their camp.
It not new


News
https://hacked.com/coinbase-target-sendgrid-compromise/

Big question is vern cash out millions dollars from coinbase Cheesy  
Here I see vern super special account with cash out no limitation

( do you believe, coinbase not involve / vern selling a cheap coin in bulk, coinbase indirectly profits hook breads deal x the bread deal seal with today $3000 Btc per)

 normal users can't even near for cash out  limit of million $$ _/- coinbase
Btc 13000 x $635 = 8.2 million Sad hmmm
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June 12, 2017, 12:41:24 PM
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http://www.coindesk.com/coinbase-to-face-trial-over-possible-role-in-cryptsy-exchange-collapse/
Coinbase to Face Trial over Possible Role in Cryptsy Exchange Collapse
Wew news in public . Shocked

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June 12, 2017, 12:49:06 PM
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There is hope to get our money back? sad thing we won't our coins back


     
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June 12, 2017, 01:28:37 PM
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Sincerely I could not think of such of connection between Coinbase and Cryptsy, however I'm immediately removing all my assets from there.

Better be safe than sorry.



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June 12, 2017, 03:16:26 PM
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There is hope to get our money back? sad thing we won't our coins back


By all accounts, as it's structure now there is no hope of getting over 20% of your money returned.

That said, I do have a plan on how to make Cryptsy's class action filers whole again. In fact, if all  goes according to plan they'll come out like bandits.

No, this is not a joke and am willing to disclose the basics on this thread prior to dedicating a new thread to the ideal.

Anybody interested, say aye!

Bruno

PS: It'd cost you nothing to participate.
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Aye!


     
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June 12, 2017, 04:00:07 PM
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