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July 06, 2017, 07:38:12 PM
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"Dear, Paul. The house finally sold and the kids are doing fine.
When am I allowed to come to China and live with you for the rest of our lives?
You promised!"

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"Dear, Paul. The house finally sold and the kids are doing fine.
When am I allowed to come to China and live with you for the rest of our lives?"

I am surprised she got away with it by claiming ignorance that her husband Paul Vernon was scamming Cryptsy and she knew nothing about it  Roll Eyes

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July 06, 2017, 08:10:26 PM
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I am surprised she got away with it by claiming ignorance that her husband Paul Vernon was scamming Cryptsy and she knew nothing about it  Roll Eyes

Same thing I never digest that words .
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"Dear, Paul. The house finally sold and the kids are doing fine.
When am I allowed to come to China and live with you for the rest of our lives?"

I am surprised she got away with it by claiming ignorance that her husband Paul Vernon was scamming Cryptsy and she knew nothing about it  Roll Eyes


She made 250 grand by acting... I say she did really good. The legal system made the theft of that 250k legal, so what more is there to say.

Well played.
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July 06, 2017, 08:50:43 PM
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She made 250 grand by acting... I say she did really good. The legal system made the theft of that 250k legal, so what more is there to say.

Well played.

The only other dimension to this is that maybe, just maybe, there could have been an element of truth as to her ignorance BUT the fact he bought her a house BEFORE he conveniently ran off to China (to be with his new woman along with millions of dollars in bitcoins) and she apparently did not even ask him: "hey hun, where did you get the money from to buy this million dollar plus property? Is business really going that well?"

Surely most people believe she was part of the whole scam even though she pleaded ignorance!

If she is part of the scam then she deserves to be locked up with two butch bonaza girls in a tiny cell housed within a hard labour prison... then she will have an idea of what justice looks like after scamming millions of dollars from innocent (yet maybe gullible) people !


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July 06, 2017, 09:27:34 PM
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She made 250 grand by acting... I say she did really good. The legal system made the theft of that 250k legal, so what more is there to say.

Well played.

The only other dimension to this is that maybe, just maybe, there could have been an element of truth as to her ignorance BUT the fact he bought her a house BEFORE he conveniently ran off to China (to be with his new woman along with millions of dollars in bitcoins) and she apparently did not even ask him: "hey hun, where did you get the money from to buy this million dollar plus property? Is business really going that well?"

Surely most people believe she was part of the whole scam even though she pleaded ignorance!

If she is part of the scam then she deserves to be locked up with two butch bonaza girls in a tiny cell housed within a hard labour prison... then she will have an idea of what justice looks like after scamming millions of dollars from innocent (yet maybe gullible) people !



Supposedly, Paul took out a company loan for ~U$1M prior to the "hack" and it was that money used to purchased the home years later which could've gone toward Cryptsy's users if Paul so concerned about them as stated while tryin' to keep the company solvent.

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Supposedly, Paul took out a company loan for ~U$1M prior to the "hack" and it was that money used to purchased the home years later which could've gone toward Cryptsy's users if Paul so concerned about them as stated while tryin' to keep the company solvent.

Paul Vernon needs to wake up and smell the coffee. He should return home to his beloved U S of A. He could easily make a plea deal with the law enforcement agents by returning the stolen amounts along with say a 20% figure and he can keep the rest to live a cushy life.

Question to Paul Vernon:
If the company was having financial problems, how is it that you were able to make a $1.3 million cash purchase on the Delray home in March 2015?

Answer given by Paul Vernon:
In the first year of operation from May 2013 to May 2014 the company had revenues of close to $3m. During this period I was paid $1.1m via the regular payroll system, base salary + quarterly bonuses. The initial purchase and down payment for that home was in February 2014. I took a loan from the company for $600k to complete the purchase at a time when the company was still performing well.

Question to Paul Vernon:
Your wife Lorie has been added to the lawsuit as a defendant. Would you like to respond on her behalf or speak to the extent of her involvement with Cryptsy?

Answer given by Paul Vernon:
She is my ex-wife. She had no involvement with Cryptsy. I cannot respond on her behalf.

Here is the source: http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/cryptsy-founder-paul-vernon-speaks-out-about-millions-in-lost-customer-funds-8568540

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July 06, 2017, 10:17:21 PM
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Supposedly, Paul took out a company loan for ~U$1M prior to the "hack" and it was that money used to purchased the home years later which could've gone toward Cryptsy's users if Paul so concerned about them as stated while tryin' to keep the company solvent.

Paul Vernon needs to wake up and smell the coffee. He should return home to his beloved U S of A. He could easily make a plea deal with the law enforcement agents by returning the stolen amounts along with say a 20% figure and he can keep the rest to live a cushy life.

Question to Paul Vernon:
If the company was having financial problems, how is it that you were able to make a $1.3 million cash purchase on the Delray home in March 2015?

Answer given by Paul Vernon:
In the first year of operation from May 2013 to May 2014 the company had revenues of close to $3m. During this period I was paid $1.1m via the regular payroll system, base salary + quarterly bonuses. The initial purchase and down payment for that home was in February 2014. I took a loan from the company for $600k to complete the purchase at a time when the company was still performing well.

Question to Paul Vernon:
Your wife Lorie has been added to the lawsuit as a defendant. Would you like to respond on her behalf or speak to the extent of her involvement with Cryptsy?

Answer given by Paul Vernon:
She is my ex-wife. She had no involvement with Cryptsy. I cannot respond on her behalf.

Here is the source: http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/cryptsy-founder-paul-vernon-speaks-out-about-millions-in-lost-customer-funds-8568540

Bravo! You continue to have no problem sourcing info when it quasi-negates my posting.

BTW, revenues of U$3M IS NOT the same as profit of U$3M. A company could sell a million ten-dollar widgets, but the profit would be shit if it the widgets each took U$9.97 to produce and ship. The money that Paul supposedly borrowed were funds on account on the exchange which he liquidated unbeknownst to users. The hacked funds was Paul's bonus for providing such a robust exchange.

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Bravo! You continue to have no problem sourcing info when it quasi-negates my posting.

BTW, revenues of U$3M IS NOT the same as profit of U$3M. A company could sell a million ten-dollar widgets, but the profit would be shit if it the widgets each took U$9.97 to produce and ship. The money that Paul supposedly borrowed were funds on account on the exchange which he liquidated unbeknownst to users. The hacked funds was Paul's bonus for providing such a robust exchange.

And a quasi-negate Bravo to you too Bruno  Grin

Here is the part I do not understand.... Any man or woman including the Pauldemort would use any stolen bitcoins regardless of how many millions he may have access to here and there. The fact he has not moved nor spent them means something is being missed. If he is dead, that explains it.

If he is alive and well, he might be keeping them where they are to double-bluff people by showing he is not in control of them... or maybe there is something else more sinister going on here. How long can he live out there in China without getting spotted? Sure there is no extradition treaty but many people from the U S of A travel to China for holidays nowadays. Maybe an ex-Cryptsy investor or reporter might bump in to him. He could easily go to the US embassy in Beijing and make an offer to surrender on conditions that he return the investment that people lost and keeps most of the profit. What a fool he is...

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July 06, 2017, 10:39:07 PM
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Bravo! You continue to have no problem sourcing info when it quasi-negates my posting.

BTW, revenues of U$3M IS NOT the same as profit of U$3M. A company could sell a million ten-dollar widgets, but the profit would be shit if it the widgets each took U$9.97 to produce and ship. The money that Paul supposedly borrowed were funds on account on the exchange which he liquidated unbeknownst to users. The hacked funds was Paul's bonus for providing such a robust exchange.

And a quasi-negate Bravo to you too Bruno  Grin

Here is the part I do not understand.... Any man or woman including the Pauldemort would use any stolen bitcoins regardless of how many millions he may have access to here and there. The fact he has not moved nor spent them means something is being missed. If he is dead, that explains it.

If he is alive and well, he might be keeping them where they are to double-bluff people by showing he is not in control of them... or maybe there is something else more sinister going on here. How long can he live out there in China without getting spotted? Sure there is no extradition treaty but many people from the U S of A travel to China for holidays nowadays. Maybe an ex-Cryptsy investor or reporter might bump in to him. He could easily go to the US embassy in Beijing and make an offer to surrender on conditions that he return the investment that people lost and keeps most of the profit. What a fool he is...

I'm typing this real slow so that you can understand it. The "hacked" bitcoins haven't been touched by Paul because he's still living off the other millions of dollars worth of crypto liquidated during his stint at Cryptsy. It's not rocket science!

This is where King Vernon used to shit: http://www.movoto.com/home/16832-charles-river-dr-delray-beach-fl-33446-435_rx-10302548


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July 06, 2017, 10:48:47 PM
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I'm typing this real slow so that you can understand it. The "hacked" bitcoins haven't been touched by Paul because he's still living off the other millions of dollars worth of crypto liquidated during his stint at Cryptsy. It's not rocket science!

Those millions are not enough for a greedy SOB who ended losing his right to return to his home country and will not see his kid/kids from wifey #1 grow up!

I'm typing this real slow so that you can understand it: Any greedy SOB would definitely move those bitcoins REGARDLESS of how many millions he currently has access to and is spending!!

Hphew... with that off of my chest, can I be rest assured my comment was understood and not quasi-negated  Wink

So you broke in to the Pauldemort Hogwart equivalent to capture photographs of his very private place of peace and zen tranquility Shocked

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July 06, 2017, 11:03:10 PM
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I'm typing this real slow so that you can understand it. The "hacked" bitcoins haven't been touched by Paul because he's still living off the other millions of dollars worth of crypto liquidated during his stint at Cryptsy. It's not rocket science!

Those millions are not enough for a greedy SOB who ended losing his right to return to his home country and will not see his kid/kids from wifey #1 grow up!

I'm typing this real slow so that you can understand it: Any greedy SOB would definitely move those bitcoins REGARDLESS of how many millions he currently has access to and is spending!!

Hphew... with that off of my chest, can I be rest assured my comment was understood and not quasi-negated  Wink

So you broke in to the Pauldemort Hogwart equivalent to capture photographs of his very private place of peace and zen tranquility Shocked


In re your last sentence, I'm in my third year sentencing for once pulling a similar stunt, of which it's quasi-illegal for me to pen the names Josh Zerlan or Bruce Peterson, but doing such gives me a pseudo-hardon.

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In re your last sentence, I'm in my third year sentencing for once pulling a similar stunt, of which it's quasi-illegal for me to pen the names Josh Zerlan or Bruce Peterson, but doing such gives me a pseudo-hardon.

Bwahaha  Grin

So the next important point of discussion is: who is the real Satoshi Nakamoto?

It has been an interesting few weeks returning back to Cryptos and all but I think I may have to just call it quits and return after a few years to see what is going on. I am kind of losing my bit-mojo here on this forum.  All of you guys, especially Bruno made it an interesting read, I enjoyed my time but I am thinking of retiring.. sadly of course. Or maybe, quasi-retiring, or... maybe will return after finding my bit-mojo...






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You're doin' it wrong!


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Sure there is no extradition treaty but many people from the U S of A travel to China for holidays nowadays. Maybe an ex-Cryptsy investor or reporter might bump in to him. He could easily go to the US embassy in Beijing and make an offer to surrender on conditions that he return the investment that people lost and keeps most of the profit. What a fool he is...

If he's still in China he's probably there as an illegal alien. His visa must have expired by now, and I can't imagine how he could get another. He would stand out like a sore thumb in China, and all the locals would be talking about him. There must have been some Chinese cryptsy customers who he ripped off. It only takes one of them taking an interest in a new American living in the neighbourhood to blow his cover.
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It's not really such an elaborate lie. She could just be very dumb/naive.

"Wow honey, you bought a mansion! Is your business really doing that well?"

"Yes."

"Wow, that's great! I love you forever! I love our life wheeee"
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July 07, 2017, 12:55:41 AM
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Sure there is no extradition treaty but many people from the U S of A travel to China for holidays nowadays. Maybe an ex-Cryptsy investor or reporter might bump in to him. He could easily go to the US embassy in Beijing and make an offer to surrender on conditions that he return the investment that people lost and keeps most of the profit. What a fool he is...

If he's still in China he's probably there as an illegal alien. His visa must have expired by now, and I can't imagine how he could get another. He would stand out like a sore thumb in China, and all the locals would be talking about him. There must have been some Chinese cryptsy customers who he ripped off. It only takes one of them taking an interest in a new American living in the neighbourhood to blow his cover.

https://www.internations.org/china-expats/guide/moving-to-china-15402/visa-types-and-requirements-for-china-2

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There are various types of visa for China, all of which are categorized with enigmatic abbreviations such as “C visa” or “X visa”. These abbreviations are based on the Chinese designations for specific visa categories: C (chuányuán = crew), L (lǎowŕi = foreigner, tourist), X (xuéshēng = student), J (jězhě = journalist), G (guňjěng = transit), etc.

Thus, an L visa is the one you need to enter the country as a visitor for private purposes, e.g. for a sightseeing tour, to meet a friend, or to see a family member. Such an L visa is valid for a stay of 30 days, though you might be able to renew it in the country. It is therefore the sort of visa a visitor rather than an expat needs.

Applying for an L visa usually requires the following documents:

- a completed application form
- a valid passport with blank visa pages
- a recent passport photograph
- a copy of your return flight ticket, your hotel reservation, and a signed itinerary

If you are invited by a friend or family member, you should enclose their letter of invitation and a copy of their ID card or residence permit, too.

Short-Term Visa

If you are planning to come for a short-term assignment, a business trip, a language course, an internship, or a term at a Chinese university, you should look into applying for a so-called F visa. This visa addresses the needs of non-tourist visitors. You must apply for an F visa if you want to stay in China for commercial or academic purposes for up to six months.

For a successful visa application, please bring these documents:

- a completed application form
- a valid passport with blank visa pages
- a recent passport photograph
- an invite from the Chinese government, an associated company, or a relevant Chinese institution, or indeed a letter of acceptance from a Chinese university or language school

If you’re planning on studying in China for more than 180 days, you need an X1 visa.

Long-Term Work Visa

Expats who want to stay longer than for six months usually go for the Z visa. This kind of visa is intended for foreign businesspeople, employees, and their family members. (International journalists are the exception, as they have a category of their own, the J1/J2 visa.) As well as the usual application form, passport, and photograph, the Z visa generally requires several official documents:

- an official letter of invitation
- a health certificate covering a recent medical exam
- an official employment license from the Chinese authorities

However, the regulations may vary slightly for special sub-categories of foreign staff, e.g. NGO workers, people employed in the offshore petroleum industry, and several other options.

For the employment license, you need to have a status as a “foreign expert” with special qualifications, e.g. as an EFL-teaching native speaker with a B.Ed., or a contract from a company officially accredited to employ foreign nationals. Fulfilling these requirements will help your future employer obtain the employment license for you. Specific details on all types of visas and requirements can be found on the Chinese Embassy website (in English).

China may not have an extradition treaty with the US, but they sure the hell do have laws on the books as to who's allowed to stay in the country for an extended period of time.

Hey, I just had an idea. You're gonna love this. Since it's probably safe to say that the Chinese government know exactly where Paul Vernon is, I think that the authorities should pick him and extract from him the private keys to unlock the stolen bitcoins, akin to civil asset forfeiture here in the US, then kick his pussy ass outta the country, perhaps sent to Mongolia to live in a yurt on a spread tending yaks.

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July 07, 2017, 07:07:22 AM
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Why is everyone here is sure that Paul is in China, did he say to everyone before he left the US that he's going to China? What if he went there for a day then moved to another country and has been there for already a year at least I mean there are over 75 counties with no extradition treaty with the US! how many of these can he buy a passport with that much money he stole? and why I'm feeling like this could turn to a really nice movie lol


     
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July 07, 2017, 10:18:33 AM
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Why is everyone here is sure that Paul is in China, did he say to everyone before he left the US that he's going to China? What if he went there for a day then moved to another country and has been there for already a year at least I mean there are over 75 counties with no extradition treaty with the US! how many of these can he buy a passport with that much money he stole? and why I'm feeling like this could turn to a really nice movie lol

Although there are plenty of countries that will sell you a citizenship/passport I don't know how many will do it without contacting the country you were born in to verify your identity and ask questions about criminal records, etc.

Are there any countries that will do that? If there are they must at least want to check your current passport to verify your name. Surely there aren't any countries where you can buy citizenship under a name like John Smith without even a check on your passport.

If big Vern does manage to buy citizenship it will most likely be under the name Paul Vernon rather than John Smith.
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