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Author Topic: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action  (Read 997721 times)
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June 19, 2017, 11:28:39 PM
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I can't wait until someone finds Perv Vern.

It's only a matter of time --  TALL, rich, white dude in China after all....

It can't be fun always looking over your shoulder all the time, & having thousands of enemies.

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Who would not want to be a fly on the wall if he ever gets caught?

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June 19, 2017, 11:31:32 PM
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What I would also like to know, is how much money was recovered in total, and what is the amount the lawyers will get for this (at 33%)
In all of the paperwork I have not seen the total amount available.

This settlement leaves open options for going after cryptsy and vern... That makes me happy.

Is this figure of 33% going to the lawyers actually stated in the paperwork? If that is the case, is there any connection between the organisers of the class suit asking these lawyers to fight the case and their own link with the lawyers? If there is a conflict of interest then surely that in itself is plain wrong

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June 20, 2017, 12:24:23 AM
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What I would also like to know, is how much money was recovered in total, and what is the amount the lawyers will get for this (at 33%)
In all of the paperwork I have not seen the total amount available.

This settlement leaves open options for going after cryptsy and vern... That makes me happy.

Is this figure of 33% going to the lawyers actually stated in the paperwork? If that is the case, is there any connection between the organisers of the class suit asking these lawyers to fight the case and their own link with the lawyers? If there is a conflict of interest then surely that in itself is plain wrong


The Cryptsy Lawsuit is Over. The Judge issued the Final Order on June 13....Next Coinbase.


It's all in here. This is the Motion Approved by the Judge on June 13, 2017 :

http://cryptsyreceivership.com/v1/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Motion-for-Final-Approval-of-Settlements.pdf

Yes, the Lawyers get 33%. I read The House will net around $800,000 after the Realtor fees and costs.

The total is around 1.5 Million, to be split amongst the Lawyers and the Approved Claimants. A little over 1,600 met the Deadline and filed Claims.

They have not stated yet how many were approved.

One note of concern, is the Receiver stated that Just One Claimant's Claim is for more the the Entire Settlements Fund so let's hope that one gets Rejected Smiley

http://cryptsyreceivership.com/v1/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Response-to-Objections-to-Settlements.pdf

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June 20, 2017, 12:29:42 AM
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I can't wait until someone finds Perv Vern.

It's only a matter of time --  TALL, rich, white dude in China after all....

It can't be fun always looking over your shoulder all the time, & having thousands of enemies.

 Grin

Who would not want to be a fly on the wall if he ever gets caught?


"All in all I'm just another fly on the wall."

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June 20, 2017, 01:38:43 AM
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What I would also like to know, is how much money was recovered in total, and what is the amount the lawyers will get for this (at 33%)
In all of the paperwork I have not seen the total amount available.

This settlement leaves open options for going after cryptsy and vern... That makes me happy.

Is this figure of 33% going to the lawyers actually stated in the paperwork? If that is the case, is there any connection between the organisers of the class suit asking these lawyers to fight the case and their own link with the lawyers? If there is a conflict of interest then surely that in itself is plain wrong


The Cryptsy Lawsuit is Over. The Judge issued the Final Order on June 13....Next Coinbase.


It's all in here. This is the Motion Approved by the Judge on June 13, 2017 :

http://cryptsyreceivership.com/v1/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Motion-for-Final-Approval-of-Settlements.pdf

Yes, the Lawyers get 33%. I read The House will net around $800,000 after the Realtor fees and costs.

The total is around 1.5 Million, to be split amongst the Lawyers and the Approved Claimants. A little over 1,600 met the Deadline and filed Claims.

They have not stated yet how many were approved.

One note of concern, is the Receiver stated that Just One Claimant's Claim is for more the the Entire Settlements Fund so let's hope that one gets Rejected Smiley

http://cryptsyreceivership.com/v1/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Response-to-Objections-to-Settlements.pdf


Did I read that right? Since no proof exist, all ~1680 claimants will get an equal share of the available loot minus lawyers fees, equating to ~U$470? Or is the available money doled out according to percentages?
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June 20, 2017, 01:48:32 AM
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https://blockchain.info/tx/c7b46a79fd8887038bd3a8e884b04820038415a60e0b9d2c2f5bcff68a2687bf


Here's a thought: The hacker aka Paul Vernon could return ~U$6.6M to the recovery fund and keep ~U$23M for himself.
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June 20, 2017, 10:14:39 AM
Last edit: June 20, 2017, 12:12:47 PM by JollyGood
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The more I read about this the more I feel sorry for the investors. How can Paul Vernon sleep at night knowing what he did?

I hope he becomes a born again Christian, or becomes Muslim or maybe even a Buddhist or starts following some other faith... either way if he finds inner peace after he finds the good Lord in any way shape or form, then maybe his concious will force him to hand over the funds to the authorities.

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Paul Vernon was an idiot for doing what he did. If he managed the exchange properly for just a couple of years more he would have been in a position to seek investment which would have put the company worth at hundreds of millions of US$ and he would have become a household name with positive conotations. What an idiot.


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June 20, 2017, 11:53:40 AM
Last edit: June 20, 2017, 01:10:04 PM by YuTü.Co.in
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The more I read about this the more I feel sorry for the investors. How can Paul Vernon sleep at night knowing what he did.

I hope he becomes a born again Christian, or becomes Muslim or maybe even a Buddhist or some starts following some other faith... either way if he finds inner peace after he finds the good Lord in any way shape or form, then maybe his concious will force him to hand over the funds to the authorities.

@Gleb Gamow
Paul Vernon was an idiot for doing what he did. If he managed the exchange properly for just a couple of years more he would have been in a position to seek investment which would have put the company worth at hundreds of millions of US$ and he would have become a household name with positive conotations. What an idiot.



The word conscious and Paul Vernon don't belong in the same sentence or paragraph regardless the context.

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June 20, 2017, 12:33:57 PM
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What I would also like to know, is how much money was recovered in total, and what is the amount the lawyers will get for this (at 33%)
In all of the paperwork I have not seen the total amount available.

This settlement leaves open options for going after cryptsy and vern... That makes me happy.

Is this figure of 33% going to the lawyers actually stated in the paperwork? If that is the case, is there any connection between the organisers of the class suit asking these lawyers to fight the case and their own link with the lawyers? If there is a conflict of interest then surely that in itself is plain wrong


The Cryptsy Lawsuit is Over. The Judge issued the Final Order on June 13....Next Coinbase.


It's all in here. This is the Motion Approved by the Judge on June 13, 2017 :

http://cryptsyreceivership.com/v1/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Motion-for-Final-Approval-of-Settlements.pdf

Yes, the Lawyers get 33%. I read The House will net around $800,000 after the Realtor fees and costs.

The total is around 1.5 Million, to be split amongst the Lawyers and the Approved Claimants. A little over 1,600 met the Deadline and filed Claims.

They have not stated yet how many were approved.

One note of concern, is the Receiver stated that Just One Claimant's Claim is for more the the Entire Settlements Fund so let's hope that one gets Rejected Smiley

http://cryptsyreceivership.com/v1/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Response-to-Objections-to-Settlements.pdf



I didnt read that one persons claim is higher, but then I have only read over the documents quickly once. Then again, cryptocracker was claiming he was out 1750 BTC or so ( the same amount he was claiming for a reward for returning the stolen BTC) so that might be the one in question. If so I am sure the receiver has been informed what happened here, and how he was trying to scam and troll everyone. 
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June 20, 2017, 01:19:38 PM
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The word conscious and Paul Vernon don't belong in the same sentence or paragraph regardless the context.

True... it remains a sad situation which can be resolved so easily IF the biggest protagonist (Paul Vernon) stepped out of the shadow and apologised to everyone and then paid back the BTC because even after all he spent the value of BTC has rocketed. Whatever he has left can easily pay back everyone he scammed but the man has no concious as you so aptly commented.

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June 20, 2017, 01:46:30 PM
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What I would also like to know, is how much money was recovered in total, and what is the amount the lawyers will get for this (at 33%)
In all of the paperwork I have not seen the total amount available.

This settlement leaves open options for going after cryptsy and vern... That makes me happy.

Is this figure of 33% going to the lawyers actually stated in the paperwork? If that is the case, is there any connection between the organisers of the class suit asking these lawyers to fight the case and their own link with the lawyers? If there is a conflict of interest then surely that in itself is plain wrong


The Cryptsy Lawsuit is Over. The Judge issued the Final Order on June 13....Next Coinbase.


It's all in here. This is the Motion Approved by the Judge on June 13, 2017 :

http://cryptsyreceivership.com/v1/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Motion-for-Final-Approval-of-Settlements.pdf

Yes, the Lawyers get 33%. I read The House will net around $800,000 after the Realtor fees and costs.

The total is around 1.5 Million, to be split amongst the Lawyers and the Approved Claimants. A little over 1,600 met the Deadline and filed Claims.

They have not stated yet how many were approved.

One note of concern, is the Receiver stated that Just One Claimant's Claim is for more the the Entire Settlements Fund so let's hope that one gets Rejected Smiley

http://cryptsyreceivership.com/v1/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Response-to-Objections-to-Settlements.pdf


Did I read that right? Since no proof exist, all ~1680 claimants will get an equal share of the available loot minus lawyers fees, equating to ~U$470? Or is the available money doled out according to percentages?


"diminished pro rata recovery"

http://cryptsyreceivership.com/v1/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Response-to-Objections-to-Settlements.pdf

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June 20, 2017, 01:58:43 PM
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What I would also like to know, is how much money was recovered in total, and what is the amount the lawyers will get for this (at 33%)
In all of the paperwork I have not seen the total amount available.

This settlement leaves open options for going after cryptsy and vern... That makes me happy.

Is this figure of 33% going to the lawyers actually stated in the paperwork? If that is the case, is there any connection between the organisers of the class suit asking these lawyers to fight the case and their own link with the lawyers? If there is a conflict of interest then surely that in itself is plain wrong


The Cryptsy Lawsuit is Over. The Judge issued the Final Order on June 13....Next Coinbase.


It's all in here. This is the Motion Approved by the Judge on June 13, 2017 :

http://cryptsyreceivership.com/v1/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Motion-for-Final-Approval-of-Settlements.pdf

Yes, the Lawyers get 33%. I read The House will net around $800,000 after the Realtor fees and costs.

The total is around 1.5 Million, to be split amongst the Lawyers and the Approved Claimants. A little over 1,600 met the Deadline and filed Claims.

They have not stated yet how many were approved.

One note of concern, is the Receiver stated that Just One Claimant's Claim is for more the the Entire Settlements Fund so let's hope that one gets Rejected Smiley

http://cryptsyreceivership.com/v1/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Response-to-Objections-to-Settlements.pdf



I didnt read that one persons claim is higher, but then I have only read over the documents quickly once. Then again, cryptocracker was claiming he was out 1750 BTC or so ( the same amount he was claiming for a reward for returning the stolen BTC) so that might be the one in question. If so I am sure the receiver has been informed what happened here, and how he was trying to scam and troll everyone. 

"As discussed at length in the Receiver’s Fifth Report (D.E. 106), while the Receiver successfully secured certain protected receivership digital wallets containing different types of cryptocurrencies, those wallets consisted of pooled assets that were not linked to any individual Cryptsy accounts. The total value of the secured cryptocurrency is approximately $394,500.002, which is less than the value of certain individual filed claims."

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June 20, 2017, 02:28:45 PM
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What I would also like to know, is how much money was recovered in total, and what is the amount the lawyers will get for this (at 33%)
In all of the paperwork I have not seen the total amount available.

This settlement leaves open options for going after cryptsy and vern... That makes me happy.

Is this figure of 33% going to the lawyers actually stated in the paperwork? If that is the case, is there any connection between the organisers of the class suit asking these lawyers to fight the case and their own link with the lawyers? If there is a conflict of interest then surely that in itself is plain wrong


The Cryptsy Lawsuit is Over. The Judge issued the Final Order on June 13....Next Coinbase.


It's all in here. This is the Motion Approved by the Judge on June 13, 2017 :

http://cryptsyreceivership.com/v1/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Motion-for-Final-Approval-of-Settlements.pdf

Yes, the Lawyers get 33%. I read The House will net around $800,000 after the Realtor fees and costs.

The total is around 1.5 Million, to be split amongst the Lawyers and the Approved Claimants. A little over 1,600 met the Deadline and filed Claims.

They have not stated yet how many were approved.

One note of concern, is the Receiver stated that Just One Claimant's Claim is for more the the Entire Settlements Fund so let's hope that one gets Rejected Smiley

http://cryptsyreceivership.com/v1/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Response-to-Objections-to-Settlements.pdf


Did I read that right? Since no proof exist, all ~1680 claimants will get an equal share of the available loot minus lawyers fees, equating to ~U$470? Or is the available money doled out according to percentages?


"diminished pro rata recovery"

http://cryptsyreceivership.com/v1/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Response-to-Objections-to-Settlements.pdf

Thanks, Tommy. I should've Google "Pro Rata" prior to asking, whereupon I would've easily been brought up to speed. Claimants will be rewarded (what a funny fuckin word in this context) proportionally according to their claim that according to the lawyers' docs CANNOT be verified because the server was successfully 100% erased. Ergo, any Tom, Dick or Harry willing to put in some effort could easily game the system, including the lawyers and receiver.

I remember not too far back when Decred was conducting their airdrop campaign. I came along and demonstrated how their airdrop model could easily be gamed. I was met with discontent and assured that NO WAY IN FUCKIN HELL would gamers bypass their defense mechanisms. I said "Really!" Then I proceeded to create 10 user accounts so to game their system which they said couldn't be gamed. Success! All ten accounts where funded during the airdrop, whereupon I quickly sold off the amassed tokens because ... wait for it ... I knew in my heart that no way in hell they would be worth anything because I'm such a fuckin genius.  Grin Today: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/decred/  Cry Cry Cry
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June 20, 2017, 02:39:50 PM
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The word conscious and Paul Vernon don't belong in the same sentence or paragraph regardless the context.

True... it remains a sad situation which can be resolved so easily IF the biggest protagonist (Paul Vernon) stepped out of the shadow and apologised to everyone and then paid back the BTC because even after all he spent the value of BTC has rocketed. Whatever he has left can easily pay back everyone he scammed but the man has no concious as you so aptly commented.

EXCELLENT POINT!

Even though it's probably too late, technically it's NOT too late to do the right thing & make thousands of traders whole again.

PERV VERN needs a CONSCIENCE, although being "CONSCIOUS" would help too.
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What I would also like to know, is how much money was recovered in total, and what is the amount the lawyers will get for this (at 33%)
In all of the paperwork I have not seen the total amount available.

This settlement leaves open options for going after cryptsy and vern... That makes me happy.

Is this figure of 33% going to the lawyers actually stated in the paperwork? If that is the case, is there any connection between the organisers of the class suit asking these lawyers to fight the case and their own link with the lawyers? If there is a conflict of interest then surely that in itself is plain wrong


The Cryptsy Lawsuit is Over. The Judge issued the Final Order on June 13....Next Coinbase.


It's all in here. This is the Motion Approved by the Judge on June 13, 2017 :

http://cryptsyreceivership.com/v1/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Motion-for-Final-Approval-of-Settlements.pdf

Yes, the Lawyers get 33%. I read The House will net around $800,000 after the Realtor fees and costs.

The total is around 1.5 Million, to be split amongst the Lawyers and the Approved Claimants. A little over 1,600 met the Deadline and filed Claims.

They have not stated yet how many were approved.

One note of concern, is the Receiver stated that Just One Claimant's Claim is for more the the Entire Settlements Fund so let's hope that one gets Rejected Smiley

http://cryptsyreceivership.com/v1/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Response-to-Objections-to-Settlements.pdf


Did I read that right? Since no proof exist, all ~1680 claimants will get an equal share of the available loot minus lawyers fees, equating to ~U$470? Or is the available money doled out according to percentages?


"diminished pro rata recovery"

http://cryptsyreceivership.com/v1/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Response-to-Objections-to-Settlements.pdf

Thanks, Tommy. I should've Google "Pro Rata" prior to asking, whereupon I would've easily been brought up to speed. Claimants will be rewarded (what a funny fuckin word in this context) proportionally according to their claim that according to the lawyers' docs CANNOT be verified because the server was successfully 100% erased. Ergo, any Tom, Dick or Harry willing to put in some effort could easily game the system, including the lawyers and receiver.

I remember not too far back when Decred was conducting their airdrop campaign. I came along and demonstrated how their airdrop model could easily be gamed. I was met with discontent and assured that NO WAY IN FUCKIN HELL would gamers bypass their defense mechanisms. I said "Really!" Then I proceeded to create 10 user accounts so to game their system which they said couldn't be gamed. Success! All ten accounts where funded during the airdrop, whereupon I quickly sold off the amassed tokens because ... wait for it ... I knew in my heart that no way in hell they would be worth anything because I'm such a fuckin genius.  Grin Today: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/decred/  Cry Cry Cry


Believe me Bruno, I know the Feeling Sad  I had 110,000 XRP on Cryptsy. Today worth 13.1285 BTC.

The way the Settlement was Done, My Claim goes back to November 1, 2015 (The Official Date set by the Lawyers), when BTC was around $330.00 and my account Value was around 1 BTC Sad

I have no Idea how People proved their claims as of that Date (Nov. 1, 2015), as most, including myself, only started taking screenshots, when it was brought up in this Forum at a much later date. I was Trading right up until the End around January 17, 2016

My Problem, as others have mentioned,  is how do/would the Lawyers know that a Claimant with a high BTC Balance didn't get out with their money AFTER November 1, 2015 Huh


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June 20, 2017, 03:46:47 PM
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PERV VERN needs a CONSCIENCE, although being "CONSCIOUS" would help too.

HAHAHAHAHA !!  Grin

Well spotted....

But seriously, I hope Paul Vernon has a heart and I hope he has a conscience and I very much hope is concious too Smiley

When he scammed everyone what was the value of BTC? Now the value is floating around the $2700 mark. He can easily pay everyone back AND still have a good life with his Chinese female counterpart.

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June 20, 2017, 03:52:36 PM
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Believe me Bruno, I know the Feeling Sad  I had 110,000 XRP on Cryptsy. Today worth 13.1285 BTC.

The way the Settlement was Done, My Claim goes back to November 1, 2015 (The Official Date set by the Lawyers), when BTC was around $330.00 and my account Value was around 1 BTC Sad

I have no Idea how People proved their claims as of that Date (Nov. 1, 2015), as most, including myself, only started taking screenshots, when it was brought up in this Forum at a much later date. I was Trading right up until the End around January 17, 2016

My Problem, as others have mentioned,  is how do/would the Lawyers know that a Claimant with a high BTC Balance didn't get out with their money AFTER November 1, 2015 Huh

I did not register in time for the class action. I wish I could still get my money back but cannot recall specifically how much I had in their wallets.

Did you trace the Cryptsy XRP wallet to see where the XRP have been forwarded to?

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June 20, 2017, 03:53:28 PM
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PERV VERN needs a CONSCIENCE, although being "CONSCIOUS" would help too.

HAHAHAHAHA !!  Grin

Well spotted....

But seriously, I hope Paul Vernon has a heart and I hope he has a conscience and I very much hope is concious too Smiley

When he scammed everyone what was the value of BTC? Now the value is floating around the $2700 mark. He can easily pay everyone back AND still have a good life with his Chinese female counterpart.

Look up at the post by Gleb at the top of THIS Page, for the Values

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Believe me Bruno, I know the Feeling Sad  I had 110,000 XRP on Cryptsy. Today worth 13.1285 BTC.

The way the Settlement was Done, My Claim goes back to November 1, 2015 (The Official Date set by the Lawyers), when BTC was around $330.00 and my account Value was around 1 BTC Sad

I have no Idea how People proved their claims as of that Date (Nov. 1, 2015), as most, including myself, only started taking screenshots, when it was brought up in this Forum at a much later date. I was Trading right up until the End around January 17, 2016

My Problem, as others have mentioned,  is how do/would the Lawyers know that a Claimant with a high BTC Balance didn't get out with their money AFTER November 1, 2015 Huh

I did not register in time for the class action. I wish I could still get my money back but cannot recall specifically how much I had in their wallets.

Did you trace the Cryptsy XRP wallet to see where the XRP have been forwarded to?

Here's it is:     https://bithomp.com/explorer/rJGW69cMpaSqNwjhWjvtkRwhvm9yNfnNpN

I get a headache just looking at it, you'd have to be better than I to figure it out.

Too Bad you didn't get a Claim in.

EDIT: I looked again at the above Link and Found a Lot of XRP sent by Cryptsy to Guess Who?.... A Ton was sent to Poloniex


https://bithomp.com/explorer/r3DFepUwQrswArcpJ5oHpmg984a4K48Nen


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June 20, 2017, 06:38:53 PM
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Believe me Bruno, I know the Feeling Sad  I had 110,000 XRP on Cryptsy. Today worth 13.1285 BTC.

The way the Settlement was Done, My Claim goes back to November 1, 2015 (The Official Date set by the Lawyers), when BTC was around $330.00 and my account Value was around 1 BTC Sad

I have no Idea how People proved their claims as of that Date (Nov. 1, 2015), as most, including myself, only started taking screenshots, when it was brought up in this Forum at a much later date. I was Trading right up until the End around January 17, 2016

My Problem, as others have mentioned,  is how do/would the Lawyers know that a Claimant with a high BTC Balance didn't get out with their money AFTER November 1, 2015 Huh

I did not register in time for the class action. I wish I could still get my money back but cannot recall specifically how much I had in their wallets.

Did you trace the Cryptsy XRP wallet to see where the XRP have been forwarded to?

Here's it is:     https://bithomp.com/explorer/rJGW69cMpaSqNwjhWjvtkRwhvm9yNfnNpN

I get a headache just looking at it, you'd have to be better than I to figure it out.

Too Bad you didn't get a Claim in.

EDIT: I looked again at the above Link and Found a Lot of XRP sent by Cryptsy to Guess Who?.... A Ton was sent to Poloniex


https://bithomp.com/explorer/r3DFepUwQrswArcpJ5oHpmg984a4K48Nen



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