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July 05, 2017, 09:31:33 PM
Last edit: July 05, 2017, 09:45:16 PM by JollyGood
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Bruno chill out. Thanks for clarifying you are not this Mike bloke. I was not discrediting you, if you felt that my apology is sincere. About your project I appreciate it even though the offer has been withdrawn. It was very kind of you but I do not have the time nor patience for projects. The trust element is not there with names and people that are pixels on screen. Cryptsy, Mt Gox and several others all went under as exchanges and so many useless coins came and went, being involved in projects does not appeal to me. I do however wish you super success with whatever and whichever project you embark on.

About the "other channels" where it is being discussed whether I am or am not "he who must not be named", thanks for letting me know. If they are suspicious Paul Vernon has been found then they should notify the law officials immediately. I am sure they will look in to this and bring to justice the elusive Pauldemort if they have rumbled him Roll Eyes




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July 05, 2017, 09:47:41 PM
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I see there are many judges here.
@Spoetnik, I bet you know everything... Can you explain this sentence better?
"I also bet the guy is from the Ukraine or some shit where each shoe is sold separately"

@Jollygood, who are you to judge? The money I received from Horus goes to charity!!! Ok? Or do not you know what charity is?
For me, Horus, he's always an accomplice, even though he's a good guy.

Shoes ?
It's a segway joke i stole directly from an old episode of the TV series Family Guy.

Here is a screen cap of the exact episode i am referring to..



Applies in this context here because half the people that speak in the English section do not understand English.

@Bruno
Thanks Wink
But like i said i am done with the whole coins thing.. i don't like the climate these days.
Plus i am lazy.
I also went back down to a small screen then got a 32 inch one.
Problem is it's summer here in Canada and it heats up my room big time.
So i basically use my Tablet to surf the web most days which is shitty and very restrictive / limiting for me.
I have central AC too but it still gets mega hot with the screen on Sad

But i can send my buddy Phil down with a case of Bud Light to help you out though.
You see we are are getting such a heat wave it's melting all our igloos & shit Sad
So he can ride down on his raft and probably be there in a week or two.. depending on currents.
..keep an eye out by any beaches on the pacific coast for the next few months.



@Jollygood
I tend to agree.
He can only play dumb about so much of it.
The writing was on the wall far before Horus threatened to quit. (and never did)
Money makes people do things they shouldn't.
I think he just wanted to keep his job.. being out of work sucks.

Not long after I threatened to resign on the forum, I got a phone call from Jim saying the decision was made to let me go. That is when I knew something was seriously wrong and that internal foul play may be involved, other than just a "hacker".  After that I was the first employee to contact the receiver and tell them everything I knew. I agree though, I didn't want to be out of a job. Cryptsy stiffed me on my last pay and my pay was getting smaller and smaller. I had to sell my playstation on kijiji in order to rent a moving truck to get out of the company condo about 2 months early because I was afraid of what would happen, because I knew shit was bad and that someone fucked up majorly. In hindsight, I wish I left months before but I was blindly loyal and I learned first hand of where being blindly loyal can lead you.

Also, dac10, if you want to send those back, here is an addy 1ArbDoZ4BToUP4fowgBCtwBz8ccByt7beA

As I've said before here guys, I'm an open book. Technically Cryptsy is still a company owned by the receiver, so as far as I know my NDA is still valid until after settlement is reached. I will answer what I can if anyone has more questions, but I feel most questions that could be asked, have already been asked and answered in older posts. But , if you have any new ones, please don't hesitate to ask.





Returned yours Btc.
I wanted to ask you something, but it will be another time, I go to sleep, I'm tired.
Tomorrow I have to be fit in the work of the construction.
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July 05, 2017, 09:52:00 PM
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Bruno chill out. Thanks for clarifying you are not this Mike bloke. I was not discrediting you, if you felt that my apology is sincere. About your project I appreciate it even though the offer has been withdrawn. It was very kind of you but I do not have the time nor patience for projects. The trust element is not there with names and people that are pixels on screen. Cryptsy, Mt Gox and several others all went under as exchanges and so many useless coins came and went, being involved in projects does not appeal to me. I do however wish you super success with whatever and whichever project you embark on.

About the "other channels" where it is being discussed whether I am or am not "he who must not be named", thanks for letting me know. If they are suspicious Paul Vernon has been found then they should notify the law officials immediately. I am sure they will look in to this and bring to justice the elusive Pauldemort if they have rumbled him Roll Eyes



why believe anything you say, you are pushing Monaco coin with fake information about visa logo

How does this card get connected to retailers? Do they have to sign-up individual retailers? Are retailers accepting Coins or are the coins being exchanged at a live rate?

In my experience doing Point-Of-Sale, these kind of new debit/credit systems are very slow to gain traction. I'd be concerned with their levels of adoption at brick and mortar stores.

They have a Visa logo and are accepted anywhere Visa is accepted and can be used for ATM withdrawals too. You pay at retailers in US$ or EUR etc but it will be converted and deducted from your altcoin balance.

They have nothing to do with VISA and cannot prove it...

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Bruno chill out. Thanks for clarifying you are not this Mike bloke. I was not discrediting you, if you felt that my apology is sincere. About your project I appreciate it even though the offer has been withdrawn. It was very kind of you but I do not have the time nor patience for projects. The trust element is not there with names and people that are pixels on screen. Cryptsy, Mt Gox and several others all went under as exchanges and so many useless coins came and went, being involved in projects does not appeal to me. I do however wish you super success with whatever and whichever project you embark on.

About the "other channels" where it is being discussed whether I am or am not "he who must not be named", thanks for letting me know. If they are suspicious Paul Vernon has been found then they should notify the law officials immediately. I am sure they will look in to this and bring to justice the elusive Pauldemort if they have rumbled him Roll Eyes





Cool. BTW, speaking of trust, I'm the ONLY person active on this forum who has 100% of his vitals disclosed. All documented with the posts and images still online. That includes my DL#, SSN, voter ID, etc., all verified. Let me know if I ever stop blowin' your mind, bud.

FWIW, I'm one of the good guys in this space. As far as me being frustrated, that's not the case, for it takes a helluva lot to get me hot (barring a sexy goat). I've work under very chaotic conditions and never once blew my top, along with driving cross-country numerous times sans having one incident of road rage unless you count the couple times I've said out loud "shit" or "fuck" directed at myself because it was I who kinda fucked up. (think blind spot in mirror when changing lanes, etc.)

You may not be Paul, but to be fair it was I who told the other guys that I believe you and that other user are most likely the same dude after they brought the other user's account to my attentions a few days ago, they then monitoring both activities, then you posted after the other dude posted that you couldn't have just stumbled upon. It ain't rocket science especially when parties make it easy for us. Ain't that right, Spoetnik? (had to inject his name for no reason at all except for humor)

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July 05, 2017, 11:41:26 PM
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I see there are many judges here.
@Spoetnik, I bet you know everything... Can you explain this sentence better?
"I also bet the guy is from the Ukraine or some shit where each shoe is sold separately"

@Jollygood, who are you to judge? The money I received from Horus goes to charity!!! Ok? Or do not you know what charity is?
For me, Horus, he's always an accomplice, even though he's a good guy.

Shoes ?
It's a segway joke i stole directly from an old episode of the TV series Family Guy.

Here is a screen cap of the exact episode i am referring to..



Applies in this context here because half the people that speak in the English section do not understand English.

@Bruno
Thanks Wink
But like i said i am done with the whole coins thing.. i don't like the climate these days.
Plus i am lazy.
I also went back down to a small screen then got a 32 inch one.
Problem is it's summer here in Canada and it heats up my room big time.
So i basically use my Tablet to surf the web most days which is shitty and very restrictive / limiting for me.
I have central AC too but it still gets mega hot with the screen on Sad

But i can send my buddy Phil down with a case of Bud Light to help you out though.
You see we are are getting such a heat wave it's melting all our igloos & shit Sad
So he can ride down on his raft and probably be there in a week or two.. depending on currents.
..keep an eye out by any beaches on the pacific coast for the next few months.



@Jollygood
I tend to agree.
He can only play dumb about so much of it.
The writing was on the wall far before Horus threatened to quit. (and never did)
Money makes people do things they shouldn't.
I think he just wanted to keep his job.. being out of work sucks.

Not long after I threatened to resign on the forum, I got a phone call from Jim saying the decision was made to let me go. That is when I knew something was seriously wrong and that internal foul play may be involved, other than just a "hacker".  After that I was the first employee to contact the receiver and tell them everything I knew. I agree though, I didn't want to be out of a job. Cryptsy stiffed me on my last pay and my pay was getting smaller and smaller. I had to sell my playstation on kijiji in order to rent a moving truck to get out of the company condo about 2 months early because I was afraid of what would happen, because I knew shit was bad and that someone fucked up majorly. In hindsight, I wish I left months before but I was blindly loyal and I learned first hand of where being blindly loyal can lead you.

Also, dac10, if you want to send those back, here is an addy 1ArbDoZ4BToUP4fowgBCtwBz8ccByt7beA

As I've said before here guys, I'm an open book. Technically Cryptsy is still a company owned by the receiver, so as far as I know my NDA is still valid until after settlement is reached. I will answer what I can if anyone has more questions, but I feel most questions that could be asked, have already been asked and answered in older posts. But , if you have any new ones, please don't hesitate to ask.





Returned yours Btc.
I wanted to ask you something, but it will be another time, I go to sleep, I'm tired.
Tomorrow I have to be fit in the work of the construction.

Speakin' 'bout have one's mind blow. WTF! Returned? Bravo! Construction? That's the part that really blew my mind. I thought you were in IT or the like. FUCK THIS SPACE, it makes me so frustrated!  Grin
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July 05, 2017, 11:44:32 PM
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Bruno chill out. Thanks for clarifying you are not this Mike bloke. I was not discrediting you, if you felt that my apology is sincere. About your project I appreciate it even though the offer has been withdrawn. It was very kind of you but I do not have the time nor patience for projects. The trust element is not there with names and people that are pixels on screen. Cryptsy, Mt Gox and several others all went under as exchanges and so many useless coins came and went, being involved in projects does not appeal to me. I do however wish you super success with whatever and whichever project you embark on.

About the "other channels" where it is being discussed whether I am or am not "he who must not be named", thanks for letting me know. If they are suspicious Paul Vernon has been found then they should notify the law officials immediately. I am sure they will look in to this and bring to justice the elusive Pauldemort if they have rumbled him Roll Eyes



why believe anything you say, you are pushing Monaco coin with fake information about visa logo

How does this card get connected to retailers? Do they have to sign-up individual retailers? Are retailers accepting Coins or are the coins being exchanged at a live rate?

In my experience doing Point-Of-Sale, these kind of new debit/credit systems are very slow to gain traction. I'd be concerned with their levels of adoption at brick and mortar stores.

They have a Visa logo and are accepted anywhere Visa is accepted and can be used for ATM withdrawals too. You pay at retailers in US$ or EUR etc but it will be converted and deducted from your altcoin balance.

They have nothing to do with VISA and cannot prove it...

Rumor has it that Cryptsy is issuing Visa cards, with the first batch of 300 cards soon to be shipped out to users. I think I saw that on their website. Somebody verify, for I've been known to be mistaken from time to time.  Roll Eyes
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July 06, 2017, 12:06:37 AM
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Cool. BTW, speaking of trust, I'm the ONLY person active on this forum who has 100% of his vitals disclosed. All documented with the posts and images still online. That includes my DL#, SSN, voter ID, etc., all verified. Let me know if I ever stop blowin' your mind, bud.

FWIW, I'm one of the good guys in this space. As far as me being frustrated, that's not the case, for it takes a helluva lot to get me hot (barring a sexy goat). I've work under very chaotic conditions and never once blew my top, along with driving cross-country numerous times sans having one incident of road rage unless you count the couple times I've said out loud "shit" or "fuck" directed at myself because it was I who kinda fucked up. (think blind spot in mirror when changing lanes, etc.)

You may not be Paul, but to be fair it was I who told the other guys that I believe you and that other user are most likely the same dude after they brought the other user's account to my attentions a few days ago, they then monitoring both activities, then you posted after the other dude posted that you couldn't have just stumbled upon. It ain't rocket science especially when parties make it easy for us. Ain't that right, Spoetnik? (had to inject his name for no reason at all except for humor)

Bruno

Yes you come across on this profile at least as someone who has a sense of humour. As for your other profiles, I will suss it out and let you know Smiley


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Gonna work in an on-topic reply..
But it's for another topic LOL
I type in poem form online I've been told since around 2000.
Why?
Because I do what I want and it amuses me!
I type my shit out so I can read it.. Not you guys.
My eye sight and typing skills keep going down hill over the years..
As does my grammar etc.

It's my signature style hhahaha
I seen an analysis before on who Satoshi might be based on that too.
An interesting read for sure.

But yeah I am defiant and stubborn and choose the poem form typing 'cause I like it that way.
I type my shit out so I can read it think damn.. That is some good shit right there!

Hey.. Deal with it.
If you need clarification no problem.
dac10 just did and I was nice about it.

I have been out of school since the fucking 80's guys.
So for one thing I forgot lots and another is I just don't care.
For example..
I know one of the sentences are incorrect below.
I am bad at typing!
I am bad at typing !
..but I do what I like LOL

Don't like it.. Then keep scrolling.
That is what I do.

Well I think that about wraps up my rant.
And sorry I turned the NOOB on to picture posting.
Difference is mine are awesome  Cool
And what is the deal with him?
No idea.. Is he people or just a NOOB? Hmmm

OH and I look forward to the NDA being removed so Horus can gossip and maybe BitJohn too who also said he was under an NDA agreement with Cryptsy.

I remember when Horus was just drifter or grifter on Cryptsy chat.. Hahaha ha grifter!
I could tell he was somebody instantly.. When Cryptsy made him a chat mod with a new name.
He showed up with that name and I pointed my finger at him and I told him I know you jdtmp LOL
Point being is it can be a lot of work hiding your typing style & personality.

But Horus do you think this JollyGood guy could be Vern?
I ask because I am guessing you dealt with Vern more than many of us.
He rarely ever came on chat or here to talk.

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July 06, 2017, 11:24:21 AM
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OH and I look forward to the NDA being removed so Horus can gossip and maybe BitJohn too who also said he was under an NDA agreement with Cryptsy.

I remember when Horus was just drifter or grifter on Cryptsy chat.. Hahaha ha grifter!
I could tell he was somebody instantly.. When Cryptsy made him a chat mod with a new name.
He showed up with that name and I pointed my finger at him and I told him I know you jdtmp LOL
Point being is it can be a lot of work hiding your typing style & personality.

But Horus do you think this JollyGood guy could be Vern?
I ask because I am guessing you dealt with Vern more than many of us.
He rarely ever came on chat or here to talk.

I look forward to reading up on what Horus_Cryptsy will add. Does any NDA still stand legally? I mean he said he was not paid his salary in full and they later sacked him therefore effectively the NDA is surely non-existent especially since the company is owned by Uncle Sam now. What is stopping Horus_Cryptsy or this BitJohn bloke from talking now if he also was a legal employee of Cryptsy? And if any NDA was broken, who exactly will take him/them to court?

Honestly, I am not the elusive Paul Vernon but if he sees this post will he please stand up!


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@hollyhell fireball question??
Cool

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#hollyhell i means @jollygood but  my interest in bitjohn part
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July 06, 2017, 07:03:32 PM
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OH and I look forward to the NDA being removed so Horus can gossip and maybe BitJohn too who also said he was under an NDA agreement with Cryptsy.

I remember when Horus was just drifter or grifter on Cryptsy chat.. Hahaha ha grifter!
I could tell he was somebody instantly.. When Cryptsy made him a chat mod with a new name.
He showed up with that name and I pointed my finger at him and I told him I know you jdtmp LOL
Point being is it can be a lot of work hiding your typing style & personality.

But Horus do you think this JollyGood guy could be Vern?
I ask because I am guessing you dealt with Vern more than many of us.
He rarely ever came on chat or here to talk.

I look forward to reading up on what Horus_Cryptsy will add. Does any NDA still stand legally? I mean he said he was not paid his salary in full and they later sacked him therefore effectively the NDA is surely non-existent especially since the company is owned by Uncle Sam now. What is stopping Horus_Cryptsy or this BitJohn bloke from talking now if he also was a legal employee of Cryptsy? And if any NDA was broken, who exactly will take him/them to court?

Honestly, I am not the elusive Paul Vernon but if he sees this post will he please stand up!




Yes, as far as I know, because the receiver owns the company, all NDAs are still valid, because the company technically still exists.

Also, I seriously doubt that JollyGood is Paul, he doesn't set off my Paul Spidey sense, but at the end of the day it's a random name online so I don't know 100%.

I haven't heard from BitJohn since the end of Cryptsy, I haven't actually heard from anyone but Mullick.

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@hollyhell fireball question??
Cool

https://wallofcoins.com/en/about/
Who we are
A collection of people, doing what they love. Grin

#hollyhell i means @jollygood but  my interest in bitjohn part

Those eyeballs hahaha !

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Last edit: July 06, 2017, 07:57:23 PM by YuTü.Co.in
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"Dear, Paul. The house finally sold and the kids are doing fine.
When am I allowed to come to China and live with you for the rest of our lives?
You promised!"

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"Dear, Paul. The house finally sold and the kids are doing fine.
When am I allowed to come to China and live with you for the rest of our lives?"

I am surprised she got away with it by claiming ignorance that her husband Paul Vernon was scamming Cryptsy and she knew nothing about it  Roll Eyes

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I am surprised she got away with it by claiming ignorance that her husband Paul Vernon was scamming Cryptsy and she knew nothing about it  Roll Eyes

Same thing I never digest that words .
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"Dear, Paul. The house finally sold and the kids are doing fine.
When am I allowed to come to China and live with you for the rest of our lives?"

I am surprised she got away with it by claiming ignorance that her husband Paul Vernon was scamming Cryptsy and she knew nothing about it  Roll Eyes


She made 250 grand by acting... I say she did really good. The legal system made the theft of that 250k legal, so what more is there to say.

Well played.
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She made 250 grand by acting... I say she did really good. The legal system made the theft of that 250k legal, so what more is there to say.

Well played.

The only other dimension to this is that maybe, just maybe, there could have been an element of truth as to her ignorance BUT the fact he bought her a house BEFORE he conveniently ran off to China (to be with his new woman along with millions of dollars in bitcoins) and she apparently did not even ask him: "hey hun, where did you get the money from to buy this million dollar plus property? Is business really going that well?"

Surely most people believe she was part of the whole scam even though she pleaded ignorance!

If she is part of the scam then she deserves to be locked up with two butch bonaza girls in a tiny cell housed within a hard labour prison... then she will have an idea of what justice looks like after scamming millions of dollars from innocent (yet maybe gullible) people !


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She made 250 grand by acting... I say she did really good. The legal system made the theft of that 250k legal, so what more is there to say.

Well played.

The only other dimension to this is that maybe, just maybe, there could have been an element of truth as to her ignorance BUT the fact he bought her a house BEFORE he conveniently ran off to China (to be with his new woman along with millions of dollars in bitcoins) and she apparently did not even ask him: "hey hun, where did you get the money from to buy this million dollar plus property? Is business really going that well?"

Surely most people believe she was part of the whole scam even though she pleaded ignorance!

If she is part of the scam then she deserves to be locked up with two butch bonaza girls in a tiny cell housed within a hard labour prison... then she will have an idea of what justice looks like after scamming millions of dollars from innocent (yet maybe gullible) people !



Supposedly, Paul took out a company loan for ~U$1M prior to the "hack" and it was that money used to purchased the home years later which could've gone toward Cryptsy's users if Paul so concerned about them as stated while tryin' to keep the company solvent.

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Last edit: July 06, 2017, 09:58:33 PM by JollyGood
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Supposedly, Paul took out a company loan for ~U$1M prior to the "hack" and it was that money used to purchased the home years later which could've gone toward Cryptsy's users if Paul so concerned about them as stated while tryin' to keep the company solvent.

Paul Vernon needs to wake up and smell the coffee. He should return home to his beloved U S of A. He could easily make a plea deal with the law enforcement agents by returning the stolen amounts along with say a 20% figure and he can keep the rest to live a cushy life.

Question to Paul Vernon:
If the company was having financial problems, how is it that you were able to make a $1.3 million cash purchase on the Delray home in March 2015?

Answer given by Paul Vernon:
In the first year of operation from May 2013 to May 2014 the company had revenues of close to $3m. During this period I was paid $1.1m via the regular payroll system, base salary + quarterly bonuses. The initial purchase and down payment for that home was in February 2014. I took a loan from the company for $600k to complete the purchase at a time when the company was still performing well.

Question to Paul Vernon:
Your wife Lorie has been added to the lawsuit as a defendant. Would you like to respond on her behalf or speak to the extent of her involvement with Cryptsy?

Answer given by Paul Vernon:
She is my ex-wife. She had no involvement with Cryptsy. I cannot respond on her behalf.

Here is the source: http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/cryptsy-founder-paul-vernon-speaks-out-about-millions-in-lost-customer-funds-8568540

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Supposedly, Paul took out a company loan for ~U$1M prior to the "hack" and it was that money used to purchased the home years later which could've gone toward Cryptsy's users if Paul so concerned about them as stated while tryin' to keep the company solvent.

Paul Vernon needs to wake up and smell the coffee. He should return home to his beloved U S of A. He could easily make a plea deal with the law enforcement agents by returning the stolen amounts along with say a 20% figure and he can keep the rest to live a cushy life.

Question to Paul Vernon:
If the company was having financial problems, how is it that you were able to make a $1.3 million cash purchase on the Delray home in March 2015?

Answer given by Paul Vernon:
In the first year of operation from May 2013 to May 2014 the company had revenues of close to $3m. During this period I was paid $1.1m via the regular payroll system, base salary + quarterly bonuses. The initial purchase and down payment for that home was in February 2014. I took a loan from the company for $600k to complete the purchase at a time when the company was still performing well.

Question to Paul Vernon:
Your wife Lorie has been added to the lawsuit as a defendant. Would you like to respond on her behalf or speak to the extent of her involvement with Cryptsy?

Answer given by Paul Vernon:
She is my ex-wife. She had no involvement with Cryptsy. I cannot respond on her behalf.

Here is the source: http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/cryptsy-founder-paul-vernon-speaks-out-about-millions-in-lost-customer-funds-8568540

Bravo! You continue to have no problem sourcing info when it quasi-negates my posting.

BTW, revenues of U$3M IS NOT the same as profit of U$3M. A company could sell a million ten-dollar widgets, but the profit would be shit if it the widgets each took U$9.97 to produce and ship. The money that Paul supposedly borrowed were funds on account on the exchange which he liquidated unbeknownst to users. The hacked funds was Paul's bonus for providing such a robust exchange.

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