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[casperBGD]

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I am really sorry for Del Potro, I believe he is the most injured top player in modern tennis. Even when he played he had big problems with his wrists which resulted with some adjustments to his backhand. Murray at least had a solid part of his career injury free before all the problems with hip threw the spanner in his works. It is really unfortunate when top professional player has big injury problems, especially when he is a great character like Del Potro. I'll try my best to take a look at his match, he deserves that much.

could not agree more, Del Potro is quite a character and I really like him playing
would add Soderling to the list, he was the first one to beat Nadal at RG (would argue the only one that finish him off when Nadal was fully prepared for the tournament, before first injury), he had troubles more with head, than injuries (almost end up as Psycho), but could be a top player instead

as DelPo is retiring, I will put my free-bet from AFCON competition on him tonight, as a farewell

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[Cnut237]

Looking at Rotterdam, one prediction that is tempting is Andy Murray:

1. Beats Bublik fairly comfortably.
2. Beats FAA after a really tough match that takes a lot out of him.
3. Can't recover fully, loses in straight sets to a weaker opponent in the next round.

[aoluain]

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I'm going with a Murray win over Bublik, I'm figuring Bublik wont be able to back up
his tournament win last week against Zverev. We have seen it a lot last year with
Tsitsipas and Sinner, they bow out of a tournament early after winning the previous one.

I'm also going with  Felix AA to win tomorrow as well as a win by Hurkacz over Musetti @ 1.26.

I had 3 wins from 4 today, Shapovalov got beaten by Lehecka, didnt expect that one.

[Vaskiy]

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I am really sorry for Del Potro, I believe he is the most injured top player in modern tennis. Even when he played he had big problems with his wrists which resulted with some adjustments to his backhand. Murray at least had a solid part of his career injury free before all the problems with hip threw the spanner in his works. It is really unfortunate when top professional player has big injury problems, especially when he is a great character like Del Potro. I'll try my best to take a look at his match, he deserves that much.

could not agree more, Del Potro is quite a character and I really like him playing
would add Soderling to the list, he was the first one to beat Nadal at RG (would argue the only one that finish him off when Nadal was fully prepared for the tournament, before first injury), he had troubles more with head, than injuries (almost end up as Psycho), but could be a top player instead

as DelPo is retiring, I will put my free-bet from AFCON competition on him tonight, as a farewell

Today he's playing against Delbonis. If seems like the odds are above 2.5 for Delpo. In the last five matches Delbonis have lost four matches. It is clear that the injuries that hurting the performance. This match is predicted to be win for Delbonis. Anyhow before revealing his announcement on retirement going for a bet on him is good.

[babygun]

could not agree more, Del Potro is quite a character and I really like him playing
would add Soderling to the list, he was the first one to beat Nadal at RG (would argue the only one that finish him off when Nadal was fully prepared for the tournament, before first injury), he had troubles more with head, than injuries (almost end up as Psycho), but could be a top player instead

as DelPo is retiring, I will put my free-bet from AFCON competition on him tonight, as a farewell

Soderling really got famous for beating Nadal at RG but I already forgot that he went up to the finals a second time in 2010. One other player that is mentally not so strong is Osaka, it was nice that she was back at the AO and I hope she can her old form back soon.

[Trofo]

Today he's playing against Delbonis. If seems like the odds are above 2.5 for Delpo. In the last five matches Delbonis have lost four matches. It is clear that the injuries that hurting the performance. This match is predicted to be win for Delbonis. Anyhow before revealing his announcement on retirement going for a bet on him is good.

Delpo did not have a chance, injuries plus that big pause left their mark and his timings were off. He started with a break and then lost most of the remaining games. Too bad, would love that he managed to get a win on his last tournament.

[Cnut237]

Del Potro was a brilliant player, but yes severely hampered by injury. I don't doubt he could have won a few slams if he'd been fit the whole time. We'll never know if he could have been up there with Nadal, Federer, Djokovic,  he may have been at the Andy Murray level, just below the big three, but way better than anyone below that.

Not sure about Soderling being under-rated. His slam record is pretty poor. He was born in 1984, so didn't even get past a slam third round until his mid-twenties, which is not suggestive of an elite-level player.

[Jating]

Today he's playing against Delbonis. If seems like the odds are above 2.5 for Delpo. In the last five matches Delbonis have lost four matches. It is clear that the injuries that hurting the performance. This match is predicted to be win for Delbonis. Anyhow before revealing his announcement on retirement going for a bet on him is good.

Delpo did not have a chance, injuries plus that big pause left their mark and his timings were off. He started with a break and then lost most of the remaining games. Too bad, would love that he managed to get a win on his last tournament.

Yeah, it is obvious that his best years are behind him, and you can call that he is very rusty. That injuries throughout his career really sap out the best of him and as much as he wanted to compete and bring back the clock, it's not going to happen. A win is good here, but it's not really meant for him to have a win in his last tournament.

[casperBGD]

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Not sure about Soderling being under-rated. His slam record is pretty poor. He was born in 1984, so didn't even get past a slam third round until his mid-twenties, which is not suggestive of an elite-level player.

where did you get this statistics, it is very good to have it that way
yeah, he does not have great slam record, but was pretty great at in 2009 and 2010, mental issues keep him down

nevertheless, sorry for DelPo, did not expected much more from him, but would be great to see him have few wins on the last tournament, however he was great player

[Joca97]

Today he's playing against Delbonis. If seems like the odds are above 2.5 for Delpo. In the last five matches Delbonis have lost four matches. It is clear that the injuries that hurting the performance. This match is predicted to be win for Delbonis. Anyhow before revealing his announcement on retirement going for a bet on him is good.

Delpo did not have a chance, injuries plus that big pause left their mark and his timings were off. He started with a break and then lost most of the remaining games. Too bad, would love that he managed to get a win on his last tournament.

Really sad moment in tennis,finally he came back after so many knee injuries and wanted to win his last tournament and retire the right way but the pause was too long and he just couldnt have been on a good level to pass Delbonis. Watched one of the last games that he served for it was pretty emotional for him and for the crowd.

[aoluain]

Today he's playing against Delbonis. If seems like the odds are above 2.5 for Delpo. In the last five matches Delbonis have lost four matches. It is clear that the injuries that hurting the performance. This match is predicted to be win for Delbonis. Anyhow before revealing his announcement on retirement going for a bet on him is good.

Delpo did not have a chance, injuries plus that big pause left their mark and his timings were off. He started with a break and then lost most of the remaining games. Too bad, would love that he managed to get a win on his last tournament.

Really sad moment in tennis,finally he came back after so many knee injuries and wanted to win his last tournament and retire the right way but the pause was too long and he just couldnt have been on a good level to pass Delbonis. Watched one of the last games that he served for it was pretty emotional for him and for the crowd.

This could have been a test he set himself to see if he could continue to
play a bit longer, maybe others around him were saying advising him not to
return and he was adamant to do it. Time and surgery are not good combinations
when you are in the second half of a career unfortunately.

[yayayo]

Andy Murray has been one of the best players in the world for years. It was actually inconceivable that he would find his way back to the world top after a new hip. Moreover, he has also aged a bit. If he had been as good as he was then without a new hip, this would have just been a top 5 player in the world. Was actually the only player who could make it difficult for Federer and Djokovic along with Nadal. I don't think Murray will ever really get to his old level again or anywhere near it.

ya.ya.yo!

[aoluain]

Murray did well to get past Bublik, tough tie break first set and all it took
in the second set was a break.

The benefit of being a top player with multi grand slam wins and more
grand slam runner up's is skills and experience, these are carrying Andy
through his flexibility and movement until he comes up against those
players who have the same or better skills and more movement.

[btc_angela]

Andy Murray has been one of the best players in the world for years. It was actually inconceivable that he would find his way back to the world top after a new hip. Moreover, he has also aged a bit. If he had been as good as he was then without a new hip, this would have just been a top 5 player in the world. Was actually the only player who could make it difficult for Federer and Djokovic along with Nadal. I don't think Murray will ever really get to his old level again or anywhere near it.

ya.ya.yo!

Of course, during his best days, he is considered one of the best, that's why it is called big 4 at some point because they are all winning the tournaments, almost.

But with his injury and him trying to make his way again in the tournament, it will be difficult as there are new breed of young talents plus his body is no longer there. I guess the grind of this sports really took a toll from the best like Andy.

[Ratash]

Murray did well to get past Bublik, tough tie break first set and all it took
in the second set was a break.

The benefit of being a top player with multi grand slam wins and more
grand slam runner up's is skills and experience, these are carrying Andy
through his flexibility and movement until he comes up against those
players who have the same or better skills and more movement.

Yeah thats what happened today his experience gave him an advantage i did not expect him to win 2 0 especially after bublik unexpected victory 2 0 against zverev in the montpellier tournament but next he will face aliassime i highly doubt that he will get past him especially that aliassime is one of the best players right now.

[ipanks]

Andy Murray has been one of the best players in the world for years. It was actually inconceivable that he would find his way back to the world top after a new hip. Moreover, he has also aged a bit. If he had been as good as he was then without a new hip, this would have just been a top 5 player in the world. Was actually the only player who could make it difficult for Federer and Djokovic along with Nadal. I don't think Murray will ever really get to his old level again or anywhere near it.

ya.ya.yo!

Of course, during his best days, he is considered one of the best, that's why it is called big 4 at some point because they are all winning the tournaments, almost.

But with his injury and him trying to make his way again in the tournament, it will be difficult as there are new breed of young talents plus his body is no longer there. I guess the grind of this sports really took a toll from the best like Andy.

At least, Murray needs to recover from curing his injury but hopefully, that does not take too long to recover. Even if he can fully recover from torn ACL, that will not be his best performance because he already got a serious injury. I wonder who will be the next Murray this year. Maybe he will decide to retire from basketball because he can not force himself to get his reputation after being injured.

It is normal to see an aged player replaced by young talent because the team needs fresh blood to lift their position step by step.

[Juggy777]

Andy Murray has been one of the best players in the world for years. It was actually inconceivable that he would find his way back to the world top after a new hip. Moreover, he has also aged a bit. If he had been as good as he was then without a new hip, this would have just been a top 5 player in the world. Was actually the only player who could make it difficult for Federer and Djokovic along with Nadal. I don't think Murray will ever really get to his old level again or anywhere near it.

ya.ya.yo!

Of course, during his best days, he is considered one of the best, that's why it is called big 4 at some point because they are all winning the tournaments, almost.

But with his injury and him trying to make his way again in the tournament, it will be difficult as there are new breed of young talents plus his body is no longer there. I guess the grind of this sports really took a toll from the best like Andy.

At least, Murray needs to recover from curing his injury but hopefully, that does not take too long to recover. Even if he can fully recover from torn ACL, that will not be his best performance because he already got a serious injury. I wonder who will be the next Murray this year. Maybe he will decide to retire from basketball because he can not force himself to get his reputation after being injured.

It is normal to see an aged player replaced by young talent because the team needs fresh blood to lift their position step by step.

Andy Murray is a legendary player and no one can doubt that, but we have to realise that he’ll never be the same player he was and I believe he knows that too and now he’s just trying to see how long he can continue before calling it quits. Lastly I believe he should retire and get back as a coach in this game, because with his expertise he could groom many future stars.

[Yaunfitda]

Andy Murray has been one of the best players in the world for years. It was actually inconceivable that he would find his way back to the world top after a new hip. Moreover, he has also aged a bit. If he had been as good as he was then without a new hip, this would have just been a top 5 player in the world. Was actually the only player who could make it difficult for Federer and Djokovic along with Nadal. I don't think Murray will ever really get to his old level again or anywhere near it.

ya.ya.yo!

Of course, during his best days, he is considered one of the best, that's why it is called big 4 at some point because they are all winning the tournaments, almost.

But with his injury and him trying to make his way again in the tournament, it will be difficult as there are new breed of young talents plus his body is no longer there. I guess the grind of this sports really took a toll from the best like Andy.

At least, Murray needs to recover from curing his injury but hopefully, that does not take too long to recover. Even if he can fully recover from torn ACL, that will not be his best performance because he already got a serious injury. I wonder who will be the next Murray this year. Maybe he will decide to retire from basketball because he can not force himself to get his reputation after being injured.

It is normal to see an aged player replaced by young talent because the team needs fresh blood to lift their position step by step.

If I'm not mistaken, it took him years to recuperate and recover from his injuries. And when he did a comeback it is obvious that he is not going to perform at the level he wanted to be and has been thinking of retiring. And yet he join minor tournaments in hope to win at least one title in his comeback. But it is too much for him as the fresh blood is beating him. But during his prime, on the best of the top 3 can compete with Andy as he is hard to beat.

[aoluain]

Andy has a tough match today, 24hrs after his Bublik match. He is scheduled
to play Felix AA, The odds are: Murray 2.60 - 1.40, I' m going small on Felix AA
to win this one. Next day match for Murray v a real up and coming player.

I also have Rublev to beat Kwon and Tsitsipas to beat Ivashka

[ipanks]

Andy Murray is a legendary player and no one can doubt that, but we have to realise that he’ll never be the same player he was and I believe he knows that too and now he’s just trying to see how long he can continue before calling it quits. Lastly I believe he should retire and get back as a coach in this game, because with his expertise he could groom many future stars.

Retired and getting back as a coach will be better for him as he does not make him injury for more because, at his age, the recovery process will take a long time and will not give him back to the full performance. If he can get many talented players and gives better guidance, he can provide a chance for the young generations to continue his style because, from those gifted players, he can get one or two good gifted players. That will be the legacy and give him more popularity as a coach.

Btw, thanks for the article.

If I'm not mistaken, it took him years to recuperate and recover from his injuries. And when he did a comeback it is obvious that he is not going to perform at the level he wanted to be and has been thinking of retiring. And yet he join minor tournaments in hope to win at least one title in his comeback. But it is too much for him as the fresh blood is beating him. But during his prime, on the best of the top 3 can compete with Andy as he is hard to beat.

It could be right. When we are injured, especially heavily injured, our chances of recovering will not be too big to back our performances. Even if he decides to come back, that will not give him a chance to use his best performance, and even he can get another injured.