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[Jating]

De minaur is playing right now against Carreno Busta, and he lost first two sets and won the 3rd, and now they're in the fourth one playing a tiebreak, I really believe in De Minaur's chances to turn the tables on Carreno Busta, and win the match, the odds are high at 4.34, worth a try.

I watched the live game... he made a bad mistake on game point/tie break despite a clear advantage against Carreno Busta.

I have place a bet on Carreno Busta because it was clear that the Spanish was in a good condition.
However the odds was interesting, but after have see first two sets played so bad, likewise De Minaur was just awake or it was just a training match, it was to risky trying to bet on him.

It was quite a disastrous match for De Minaur. He did not play well. And even though he had some clear advantages in that match it is quite safe to say that he blew those advantages. He could not actually make anything positive out of what advantages he had. And I have to say his opponent Carreno Busta played very well. He took his chances wisely. But I feel it is more about De Minaur not playing well in that match. Before the match, I thought it would be quite close and quite interesting. I think it is safe to say that it was not the case.

Wasn't able to watch this game, but clearly this is a 50/50 match, never see the odds though, who is the betting favorite? It is Busta?

Anyhow, Alex though seems to be another player that is inconsistent so I wouldn't be surprised that he lost that way. He can't take advantage of his opponent eventhough he has a good chance. Alcaraz seems to be going on the next round as he is leading Brooksby by 2 sets although down 2-0 on the 3rd set.

[KennyR]

Rublev and Shapovalov are playing good tennis at the moment, and it is 1:1, with great fight in third set
both are looking pruned to pass into next round

What a match to watch, both were with the never give up mindset to move forward. Finally it was Rublev who won the match 6-4 2-6 6³-7⁷ 6-4 7¹⁰-6⁷ and Shapovalov is no down to Rublev. From the very beginning of the match there is fire in the match. Every set is quite interesting to watch and I just watched it and didn't made a bet or supported one of them. If I've flavoured this could've pumped my heart beat to the extreme.

[RealMalatesta]

Rublev and Shapovalov are playing good tennis at the moment, and it is 1:1, with great fight in third set
both are looking pruned to pass into next round

Nadal is playing Gasquet later tonight, that one could be interesting as well, Nadal lost first set in each of previous two matches, and then start playing on usual level, is that a new tactic?

A very good fight from Shapovalov now it's going to be ended with Rublev win this was really frustrating match as I place a live bet as Rublev was down in third set, but it's end in good profit he is a good player even unpredictable but still can do good in early rounds of any event.

In second bet right now Cilic is struggling badly against British player Evans which is giving a tough challenge in first set even most chances favorite Cilic will do this all easily but start is not good for him. Today we have another good match between Bencic vs Czech player Pliskova both are good and energetic players, but I am feeling Bencic can win this match she is doing good job in early match and here again she can go through to into fourth round.

[Kemarit]

Rublev and Shapovalov are playing good tennis at the moment, and it is 1:1, with great fight in third set
both are looking pruned to pass into next round

What a match to watch, both were with the never give up mindset to move forward. Finally it was Rublev who won the match 6-4 2-6 6³-7⁷ 6-4 7¹⁰-6⁷ and Shapovalov is no down to Rublev. From the very beginning of the match there is fire in the match. Every set is quite interesting to watch and I just watched it and didn't made a bet or supported one of them. If I've flavoured this could've pumped my heart beat to the extreme.

Yeah, was just in the tie break that Rublev take the advantage, was really good match to watch.

Alcaraz and Nadal won their respective match already, and yes it was easy 3 sets win for them. I thought that Gasquet might give Nadal a headache, but 6-0, 6-1 in the first two sets is enough for me to see that he will take a win without that much of a struggle.

Kyrgios vs Medvedev tomorrow, this is going to be fun to watch. Let's see if Nick is going to have his tantrums and then break up in this game. LOL.

[casperBGD]

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Alcaraz and Nadal won their respective match already, and yes it was easy 3 sets win for them. I thought that Gasquet might give Nadal a headache, but 6-0, 6-1 in the first two sets is enough for me to see that he will take a win without that much of a struggle.

Nadal won.easy, especially in first two sets, leaving Gasquet on one game in those two sets, third was a bit more interesting, but finally came out at 5:7, expected lower performance from Nadal, based on first two rounds, but he is now back

Sinner is still playing, lost first set, but sailing through second and third, and expect him to win

[Vaskiy]

In the final match of round 3 it is Jannik Sinner won the match. Brandon Nakashima had a good start, but he wasn't able to carry it forward to the next sets. Jannik Sinner after losing the first set 3-6 won the three consecutive sets 6-4 6-1 6-2. Finally the round 16 schedule is ready and more matches are going to be very close.

[cryptofrka]

Čilić was really good against Evans yesterday - he was on top of his game in majority of the crucial points. He's playing Alcaraz next, and although Carlos will be put as a heavy favorite, I do think Čilić is not without chances.

I plan to go with some handicap on him, considering the fact that Alcaraz still hasn't lost a set in 3 matches the bookies might favor him for an easy win. The main one is currently set at +5,5 and I think that Čilić has it covered. I hope the odds on Čilić increase a bit more the closer we get to the match itself. At 3.50, he is a decent bet to win outright as well.

[aoluain]

We go into the business end of the tournament and its nice to see Norrie and Sinner
through so far.

Very interesting match up today, Medvedev v Krygios, the last time these two met in
Canada Krygios won and wins H2H Kyrgios is 3-1but today Medvedev is favourite.

I would love to do a handicap bet on Nick....but Daniil is in very fine form currently.

[Daniel91]

Čilić was really good against Evans yesterday - he was on top of his game in majority of the crucial points. He's playing Alcaraz next, and although Carlos will be put as a heavy favorite, I do think Čilić is not without chances.

I plan to go with some handicap on him, considering the fact that Alcaraz still hasn't lost a set in 3 matches the bookies might favor him for an easy win. The main one is currently set at +5,5 and I think that Čilić has it covered. I hope the odds on Čilić increase a bit more the closer we get to the match itself. At 3.50, he is a decent bet to win outright as well.

Cilic is one of the best tennis players in the world, because very few tennis players managed to win the GS in the years when the "big three" of world tennis played.
However, unfortunately, considering his talent and tennis quality, he failed to do even more and win a few more GS.
His biggest problem was always his mental strength and mental stability, and he often lost the matches he had to win.
If he keeps his inner demons under control and plays a perfect match, then he has a good chance of beating Alcaraz.

[babygun]

We go into the business end of the tournament and its nice to see Norrie and Sinner
through so far.

Very interesting match up today, Medvedev v Krygios, the last time these two met in
Canada Krygios won and wins H2H Kyrgios is 3-1but today Medvedev is favourite.

I would love to do a handicap bet on Nick....but Daniil is in very fine form currently.

Should be an interesting match indeed and the bookies see Medvedev at the favorite with an odd of about 1.5. Kygrios to win is @2.5. I placed a bet on Kyrgios +1.5 sets but I think he will win the match; in these kind of matches he is always more motivated to show how good he can play.

[LittleBitFunny]

It was quite a disastrous match for De Minaur. He did not play well. And even though he had some clear advantages in that match it is quite safe to say that he blew those advantages. He could not actually make anything positive out of what advantages he had. And I have to say his opponent Carreno Busta played very well. He took his chances wisely. But I feel it is more about De Minaur not playing well in that match. Before the match, I thought it would be quite close and quite interesting. I think it is safe to say that it was not the case.

Wasn't able to watch this game, but clearly this is a 50/50 match, never see the odds though, who is the betting favorite? It is Busta?

Anyhow, Alex though seems to be another player that is inconsistent so I wouldn't be surprised that he lost that way. He can't take advantage of his opponent eventhough he has a good chance. Alcaraz seems to be going on the next round as he is leading Brooksby by 2 sets although down 2-0 on the 3rd set.

Alex de Minaur is quite inconsistent. So, I actually do not trust him with anything right now.
He might have the advantage over his opponent but he can still lose. It is hard to predict anything when a player is this much inconsistent.
So, I am going to say that Alex is not the favorites

Čilić was really good against Evans yesterday - he was on top of his game in majority of the crucial points. He's playing Alcaraz next, and although Carlos will be put as a heavy favorite, I do think Čilić is not without chances.
I plan to go with some handicap on him, considering the fact that Alcaraz still hasn't lost a set in 3 matches the bookies might favor him for an easy win. The main one is currently set at +5,5 and I think that Čilić has it covered. I hope the odds on Čilić increase a bit more the closer we get to the match itself. At 3.50, he is a decent bet to win outright as well.

Cilic is one of the best tennis players in the world, because very few tennis players managed to win the GS in the years when the "big three" of world tennis played.
However, unfortunately, considering his talent and tennis quality, he failed to do even more and win a few more GS.
His biggest problem was always his mental strength and mental stability, and he often lost the matches he had to win.
If he keeps his inner demons under control and plays a perfect match, then he has a good chance of beating Alcaraz.

Čilić is a player who has been playing quite consistently in recent times. So, it is rather easy to predict how he is going to perform.
But it is sad to say that he could have done a lot more with his talent. He should have had more success in his career.
And he certainly should have been a lot more consistent and gotten better results in some certain matches. 
Right now I think he actually has a good chance of beating Alcaraz. But time will tell what happens.

[mv1986]

Čilić was really good against Evans yesterday - he was on top of his game in majority of the crucial points. He's playing Alcaraz next, and although Carlos will be put as a heavy favorite, I do think Čilić is not without chances.

I plan to go with some handicap on him, considering the fact that Alcaraz still hasn't lost a set in 3 matches the bookies might favor him for an easy win. The main one is currently set at +5,5 and I think that Čilić has it covered. I hope the odds on Čilić increase a bit more the closer we get to the match itself. At 3.50, he is a decent bet to win outright as well.

Cilic is one of the best tennis players in the world, because very few tennis players managed to win the GS in the years when the "big three" of world tennis played.
However, unfortunately, considering his talent and tennis quality, he failed to do even more and win a few more GS.
His biggest problem was always his mental strength and mental stability, and he often lost the matches he had to win.
If he keeps his inner demons under control and plays a perfect match, then he has a good chance of beating Alcaraz.

Erm no, he just had a run during that tournament back then and the others did not. Djokovic lost against Nishikori, Nadal was injured and Cilic did manage to beat Federer. The reason he didn't win any more Grand Slams are the stats against the "big three" and because he didn't have enough balance in this game as it was all about the serve and the strong players got used to it.

Stats against the "big three":

Nadal - Cilic: 7 : 2 (including one retreat by Nadal)

Djokovic - Cilic: 18 : 2

Federer - Cilic: 10 : 1

With those stats you can still be one of the best in the world as per the ATP list, but it is no surpriser that you didn't win tons of GS titles.

[babygun]

Erm no, he just had a run during that tournament back then and the others did not. Djokovic lost against Nishikori, Nadal was injured and Cilic did manage to beat Federer. The reason he didn't win any more Grand Slams are the stats against the "big three" and because he didn't have enough balance in this game as it was all about the serve and the strong players got used to it.

Stats against the "big three":

Nadal - Cilic: 7 : 2 (including one retreat by Nadal)

Djokovic - Cilic: 18 : 2

Federer - Cilic: 10 : 1

With those stats you can still be one of the best in the world as per the ATP list, but it is no surpriser that you didn't win tons of GS titles.

I think Cilic will always be one hit grandslam wonder. Yes, he is talented and seems to have a good form these last couple of months but there are too many young good players right now and Nadal/Djokovic are always still here for some more years. From 2019 to 2021, his best result on a grand slam was the 4th round.

[casperBGD]

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I think Cilic will always be one hit grandslam wonder. Yes, he is talented and seems to have a good form these last couple of months but there are too many young good players right now and Nadal/Djokovic are always still here for some more years. From 2019 to 2021, his best result on a grand slam was the 4th round.

TBH, you can easily find ten players that were part of top10 in Nadal, Federer, Djokovic era, with results against them similar to Cilic, it was simply not comparable, but I also think that Cilic is good and all round player, he had reached SF on all GS, which is kind of achievement in previous ten years

yeah, he is not Murray or Del Porto quality, but above Berdych and similar players for sure, and he is still good for new generation, which proves that young generation stars are far from top quality, that Djokovic, Nadal, Federer, and even Murray were

[shogun47]

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I think Cilic will always be one hit grandslam wonder. Yes, he is talented and seems to have a good form these last couple of months but there are too many young good players right now and Nadal/Djokovic are always still here for some more years. From 2019 to 2021, his best result on a grand slam was the 4th round.

TBH, you can easily find ten players that were part of top10 in Nadal, Federer, Djokovic era, with results against them similar to Cilic, it was simply not comparable, but I also think that Cilic is good and all round player, he had reached SF on all GS, which is kind of achievement in previous ten years

yeah, he is not Murray or Del Porto quality, but above Berdych and similar players for sure, and he is still good for new generation, which proves that young generation stars are far from top quality, that Djokovic, Nadal, Federer, and even Murray were

Why do you think Cilic is better than Berdych for sure? I would put them into the same category and the stats support that. Whatever relevant statistics you use, it says that they are pretty even. Berdych has a better win to loss ratio and was highest rank 4. Cilic was highest rank 3. They are 6 to 6 against each other. Cilic has won a few more tournaments and also played in all semi-finals of all GS.
It is hard to compare as you said but also hard to tell who belongs into which category right after Federer, Djokovic and Nadal. If you compare it when you take the best game someone ever played, lots of them could be the world's best tennis player, but that is the difference. The ability to permanently play your best for years and years. This doesn't apply to any other player so far. I remember how hard Murray tried. He lost 8! GS finals, 6 against Djokovic and 2 against Federer. Federer lost all of his finals against Nadal and Djokovic and then 1 against Del Potro.

I think that a lot of these younger great players would at one point also be happy if they don't have to play against Djokovic and Nadal anymore. It is certainly an honor for them to do so, but when your change is close to zero to ever win a final against them, it's not so much fun anymore I guess. Poor guys who played exactly at the time when the three guys played. Even if you could have become number 1 during any era of tennis even for just a week, then this was not the time. I think Medvedev was number 1 for a bit but that has been it for the last 17/18 years...

[Zackgeno96]

Cilic and Berdych were regular top 10 players in the world in the past. I sometimes hear from Cilic that he participates in tournaments and has some successes, but Berdych seems to have completely disappeared from the radar. Berdych once placed 5th in the world but never won a Grand Slam. Cilic managed to do that once, and I think Cilic has won more titles overall than Berdych. So at least Cilic was a more successful player than Berdych. Berdych was a great talent but had too many injuries.

[Rabi3]

Khachanov to win is @1.5 right now against carreno Busta, if he loses, I'm retiring betting on tennis after I lost on Shapovalov and de minaur, I belive in khachanov's chances to win, I made a bet on him before the match, and I'm thinking about betting again on him live.

[romero121]

Khachanov to win is @1.5 right now against carreno Busta, if he loses, I'm retiring betting on tennis after I lost on Shapovalov and de minaur, I belive in khachanov's chances to win, I made a bet on him before the match, and I'm thinking about betting again on him live.

After losing the first set, Khachanov have won the third set
and  keeps him on the lead. Careno Busta is playing well and finding the right time to take a break through. So, we can't get into conclusion. Winning the third set keeps him on the lead and developed pressure on Careno Busta, fourth set will probably give the result of the match.

[edgycorner]

What's up with PCB? Was he really sick or just pretended to break Khachanov's momentum?
Whatever it was, he did break the momentum and is now back in fourth set.

Khachanov +1.5 set handicap was the play here @ 1.88x

Busta broke Khachanov in the fourth as I was typing this lmao He wad pretending to be sick for sure. Sore loser

[Prince Malik]

In the final match of round 3 it is Jannik Sinner won the match. Brandon Nakashima had a good start, but he wasn't able to carry it forward to the next sets. Jannik Sinner after losing the first set 3-6 won the three consecutive sets 6-4 6-1 6-2. Finally the round 16 schedule is ready and more matches are going to be very close.

Jannik Sinner is a very talented player, he was able to beat Alcaraz recently in Croatia on clay, and Alcaraz was doing good at the time, I don't expect a lot from him on hard court, Ivashka is his next opponent, and if he wins he'd face Cilic or Alcaraz, I want to see another match between Alcaraz and Sinner, it will be time for revenge.