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March 14, 2018, 12:42:48 PM
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Well, shit... looks like somebody hit the 777 last night: I just logged in this morning, to try and play it a bit more, but it's back to 2.0 BTC now.

Congratulations, whoever you are... nice one Smiley

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March 14, 2018, 01:53:31 PM
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So you are saying that they site is cheating? Because of their seed can be manipulated? So hiw about their provably fair system? Is this really a bad idea to have one of them or even it is useless thing to have that? I know this site is pretty old enough and they never have this provably fair system questioned until this day that someone claimed that they are being cheayed because admin can manually change their seed. Please give us some proof here

I am not saying BVC is cheating. I am saying that any casino that has implemented any commonly known variation of what we call a provably fair system can make winning bets at any time.

Another person previously made the claim that BVC is winning it's own jackpot, but has offered no proof that this is true. While BVC responded to this allegation, they talked about how their provably fair implementation would prevent them from making their users lose bets. However, this other party does not seem to be accusing BVC of making the other party's bets lose, but rather the accusation is that BVC is using knowledge of the server seed for a BVC-owned account to win the jackpot, depriving others that have contributed to that jackpot a fair chance to win themselves. BVC has not responded to this yet and I believe this is because they did not understand the accusation.

That said, I have no proof to offer because I'm not making any accusations. I am simply clarifying the original accusation so that BVC can respond to it if they wish.

If you know that they have something is not right? You should really post it here so everyone can know that they are being cheated through some knowledge or may be what I called this their skill(if it is true). But somehow no one really know that how they can work this out. Their site is pretty old site but why today this matter occur?

If you are trying to help the original poster to make their accusation then you should reveal everything here to make sure they read and trying to fix this
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March 14, 2018, 02:56:00 PM
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So you are saying that they site is cheating? Because of their seed can be manipulated? So hiw about their provably fair system? Is this really a bad idea to have one of them or even it is useless thing to have that? I know this site is pretty old enough and they never have this provably fair system questioned until this day that someone claimed that they are being cheayed because admin can manually change their seed. Please give us some proof here

If you know that they have something is not right? You should really post it here so everyone can know that they are being cheated through some knowledge or may be what I called this their skill(if it is true). But somehow no one really know that how they can work this out. Their site is pretty old site but why today this matter occur?

If you are trying to help the original poster to make their accusation then you should reveal everything here to make sure they read and trying to fix this

Nobody is claiming they are being cheated due to the house changing their seed (this is actually impossible due to our provably fair system which allows you to verify that the client seed is the same as that which was shown before you played - and the client can also actually change this to any number they like before playing), the statement is being made around the possibility of the house winning its own jackpot by using the fact that it knows the server seed to do so.

As cwil has previously stated this is, of course, a possibility with any casino. Unfortunately there's no way for any casino to prove that it hasn't done it, and no way for the user to prove that it has. Speaking for ourselves as the oldest operating Bitcoin casino we would never engage in cheating our players like that. It's underhanded, it's sly and in our minds it's entirely unforgivable. Our players keep a roof over our heads and food on our tables; the very least they deserve is our respect. There are thousands of happy players that win our jackpots that can attest to the fact that they have indeed won, if they feel like doing so of course. We'd be very happy to hear from them in this thread if they do.

I am not saying BVC is cheating. I am saying that any casino that has implemented any commonly known variation of what we call a provably fair system can make winning bets at any time.

Another person previously made the claim that BVC is winning it's own jackpot, but has offered no proof that this is true. While BVC responded to this allegation, they talked about how their provably fair implementation would prevent them from making their users lose bets. However, this other party does not seem to be accusing BVC of making the other party's bets lose, but rather the accusation is that BVC is using knowledge of the server seed for a BVC-owned account to win the jackpot, depriving others that have contributed to that jackpot a fair chance to win themselves. BVC has not responded to this yet and I believe this is because they did not understand the accusation.

That said, I have no proof to offer because I'm not making any accusations. I am simply clarifying the original accusation so that BVC can respond to it if they wish.

Again, thanks for focusing our response on the actual issue that the user was complaining about, cwil! You have also raised a very valid point in that a casino could indeed use its own knowledge of the server seed for a casino-owned account to win the jackpot if they chose to do so. I think the term 'false flag jackpots' would be quite a fitting term for that. This is something that the industry definitely should come together to discuss finding a solution to, and if you might have any ideas for making that area of online gambling more transparent we'd certainly love to hear them!

It's an unfortunate situation that there seems to be no way for a casino to prove that they do not engage in that kind of behavior. You can never prove that you have never done X, or that you don't have Y. The onus is always on those accusing someone of something to prove that those they are accusing did do X, or do have Y - if evidence exists that shows this then it is possible to find (perhaps not easily, but it is possible to find if it exists), whereas it is not possible to prove something that doesn't exist. That sounds a little convoluted (and I could definitely do with some more coffee to wake my brain up!) but basically it is impossible for us to prove that we do not engage in that behavior.

All we can really do at this current point in time is ask that our players put their trust in the reputation we have built up over the years. We feel that we've earned our trustworthy reputation, and we stake absolutely everything on it.

...BUT case in point, just to clarify... you said "You must have 7-7-7" so does that mean ONLY in one-single hand of play's grouping?

So IF I had SPLIT here (as is correct, for basic strategy play) and had gotten another 7-Diamond on the first hand's split, are you saying it would not have qualified for the progressive win??

OR in another instance -- suppose the player STANDS on his "14" instead (two sevens = 14) against the dealer 4 ("bust card") but then the dealer's hit card drawn out of the shoe, happens to be another Seven of Diamonds...?? In THAT case would it *also* have disqualified the 777 jackpot trigger?

SO... again... JUST TO BE CLEAR... are you saying that for your casino, in some instances for this jackpot to qualify, that the player MUST ACTUALLY CHOOSE TO PLAY THEIR HAND INCORRECTLY???

(Notice that in my screenshot above, actually, since I had not yet heard a reply back from you on this question, I decided to play it safe and actually I did just "HIT" my sevens, so I'd have the 777 all together... in case it was coming.  But YES technically that was an approx $14 bet, that I played WRONG, and so LOST it... just in particular because of your casino's rules.)

This just seems a little bit "off" to me, IF this situation is indeed the case.

A casino that's requiring a player to "play wrong" in order to win...?  Hmm.... seriously?

The jackpot function just checks all cards that don't belong to the dealer, so as mentioned by cwil "both splitting and hitting will win the jackpot if the next dealt card is a 7d after being dealt 7d7d." Sincerest apologies if I was unclear on this previously!

I'll preface this by saying normally these guys are great.  Support is definitely slower than before, but they have been good to me.  

I emailed a couple times with similar 777 questions but no reply.

Whether you participate or not, you contribute to the bonus (which blows). The minimum they could do would be to take a few hours and properly spell out the rules for the bonus games.

Keyjockey, if you had split the 77, and the next card dealt was a 7, you would have won (I'm pretty sure anyway).  

Apologies for the slower support of late, we always try to provide a response by email within 8 - 12 hours max. but occasionally this timeframe does slip which isn't ideal; that being said quick support will return very soon as we're implementing some team changes. Smiley

P.S. BTW I am still not sure what's the +EV point for the jackpot on this game.  My reading of what Wizard of Odds has said about it (link above) seems to indicate that the progressive flips over to +EV somewhere around either 2.3 BTC or maybe it's 9.8 BTC.  But that's with 6 Decks I think, whereas BVC is simulating 8 Decks... so maybe it's still MORE than 9.8 BTC before it's actually positive Expected Value...?

But 13 BTC is still pretty good... anyone know what this 777 Diamond jackpot has ever reached as it's MAXIMUM in the past, on this site?

Admin, can you tell us that much, at least... if this 13 BTC is a "record" for your game yet or whatever it's gotten to in the past?

13 BTC isn't at all a record for our Lucky 7's Blackjack, the jackpot has frequently been much larger than 13 BTC but as you can imagine the jackpot size tends to be relative to the value of BTC; people usually spend more in BTC terms when its fiat value is lower, and less when it's higher. I can't recall jackpot figures on Blackjack but no, 13 BTC isn't a record for the Blackjack jackpot.

If any of you have any more questions about anything please do let me know and I'll try clear it up as best I can. And as always if there are any issues that you need to contact us directly for please do feel free to email us at admin@bitcoinvideocasino.com. Smiley

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March 14, 2018, 04:02:41 PM
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Thank you for the response. That's about what I was expecting.
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March 14, 2018, 04:22:08 PM
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Thank you for the response. That's about what I was expecting.

You're very welcome, cwil! Smiley

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March 15, 2018, 04:59:06 PM
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Is anyone else having issues with withdrawing coins?  I deposited over 48 hours ago, so there's plenty of confirmations, yet I get this error when I attempt to cash out:

Deposited Bitcoins have not been confirmed yet. Two (2) confirmations are required before you can withdraw. Please try again later.

Is there a bug with the site?  I've contacted support, and was told that my account definitely has more than 2 confirmations.
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March 15, 2018, 08:30:21 PM
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I'll preface this by saying normally these guys are great.  Support is definitely slower than before, but they have been good to me.  

I emailed a couple times with similar 777 questions but no reply.

Whether you participate or not, you contribute to the bonus (which blows). The minimum they could do would be to take a few hours and properly spell out the rules for the bonus games.

Keyjockey, if you had split the 77, and the next card dealt was a 7, you would have won (I'm pretty sure anyway).  

Apologies for the slower support of late, we always try to provide a response by email within 8 - 12 hours max. but occasionally this timeframe does slip which isn't ideal; that being said quick support will return very soon as we're implementing some team changes. Smiley


Let's be clear.  It wasn't "slower" support.   I voiced the concern of a user who I referred to bcvc, and also my own concern about vagueness of the bonus rules in that game.    There was no "slower" - there was no reply period.

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Is anyone else having issues with withdrawing coins?  I deposited over 48 hours ago, so there's plenty of confirmations, yet I get this error when I attempt to cash out:

Deposited Bitcoins have not been confirmed yet. Two (2) confirmations are required before you can withdraw. Please try again later.

Is there a bug with the site?  I've contacted support, and was told that my account definitely has more than 2 confirmations.

Hi ccsutton,

Apologies for the withdrawal issue with your account; if you have any further issues please don't hesitate to get back in touch. Smiley

Let's be clear.  It wasn't "slower" support.   I voiced the concern of a user who I referred to bcvc, and also my own concern about vagueness of the bonus rules in that game.    There was no "slower" - there was no reply period.

Hi jonasBTC,

If this was during the period when our support was slack I'm very sorry about that. If the above posts haven't clarified the bonus rules in that game please do email us again and we'll get back to you about it, or let us know here and we'll clarify things as best we can.

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Last edit: March 27, 2018, 11:41:09 PM by BitcoinVideoPoker
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Hi folks!

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Come try your hand at winning a whopping 202.35 BTC on Video Poker, or take down the Slots jackpot of 191.35 BTC!  Shocked Cool

Cheers, and thanks so much for playing with us over the years! Smiley

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April 16, 2018, 07:54:35 AM
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It has been quite a while since we added any new games,  but I wanted to let everyone know that by the end of this month,  we should have our first new game in quite a while.  It is a Satoshi Circle style game,  so stay tuned!

For now,  be sure to download our Mobile app so you can play on the go.


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April 19, 2018, 07:30:25 AM
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Round 2:00 CST I couldn't get games to load (it seems no one could as well because around 2:20 CST users starting playing again in the recent wins)

My Balance was 0.013XXXX but when the games started working again I had a balance of 0.01199981

I am assuming this was because I tried to play while the game server was down during the 20 minute window.

I tried playing Black jack and Craps while and got a connection error each time. Can someone check into this?

username: 3cc2fb4887

Issue happened bettween Apr 19, 2018 at 2:21am - Apr 19, 2018 at 1:59am   

These two rolls on craps seem to be lost and no results but that is all I can see from my end.

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April 20, 2018, 01:50:30 AM
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Round 2:00 CST I couldn't get games to load (it seems no one could as well because around 2:20 CST users starting playing again in the recent wins)

My Balance was 0.013XXXX but when the games started working again I had a balance of 0.01199981

I am assuming this was because I tried to play while the game server was down during the 20 minute window.

I tried playing Black jack and Craps while and got a connection error each time. Can someone check into this?

username: 3cc2fb4887

Issue happened bettween Apr 19, 2018 at 2:21am - Apr 19, 2018 at 1:59am   

These two rolls on craps seem to be lost and no results but that is all I can see from my end.



Hi Temptaz,

Could you email the above along with your account's deposit address to admin@bitcoinvideocasino.com please?

We don't access / view accounts based on account usernames as these are publicly viewable in the player list when active, so to prove ownership of an account the deposit address is required.

Cheers!

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April 21, 2018, 07:19:39 AM
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I reported what appeared to be a glitch/bug to the admin@ email - and followed up with one, and both were outright ignored.

I have an account that is an affiliate account.  I logged in and saw a (very) small earned balance.   

Somewhere in the range of 3.5 credits (in blackjack) - so 0.00035 (so like $3 USD, so not a big deal)

I put 3 credits on one hand - and started to play.  No cards were revealed, the site basically "froze"

I waited, the site gave a time out message after a few minutes, and when I cancelled the message, the 3 credits were returned to my balance.

This has happened before when my own connection was having issues, and I always got the chips back.

There was no connection issue.  I had streaming music in another tab and refreshed twitter while this site was frozen.

The 3rd time I cancelled the error message, the 3 chips were not returned.

The play history did not show any bet, but the credits were gone.

I reported this to alert the site.  I did not report it as any sort of bug bounty program.  I reported it and wanted to know if this was a known issue or if they would look into it. 

No replies.

This is an honest gaming site.  I've had signups win nice amounts and always were instantly paid.   But this was not something I made up (I mean really, would anyone do this over $3?) 

If the site wishes to find my email, just do a search for 8a92653558 in your support email.  It's the last email I sent (April 13)
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April 22, 2018, 05:33:39 AM
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If the site wishes to find my email, just do a search for 8a92653558 in your support email.  It's the last email I sent (April 13)

Hello,  You certainly have been a long long time loyal player although I can't see any emails from you on April 13th.
We will look into this bug although for now I've credited you triple the missing amount for your account.

Thanks for being such a loyal user of our site!

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April 25, 2018, 04:26:48 AM
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How great are these guys?  

Thank you!

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May 01, 2018, 06:34:31 AM
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We are only great because of our great customers.
Also remember that you can earn money by telling your friends about our site and using our referral system:  https://bitcoinvideocasino.com/referral

Please feel free to provide feedback on whatever other features you would like to see next.

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Thanks for the kind words!
Email is generally the best way to get a hold of us,  but we do try to monitor this thread too.
Tom is working on some other projects at the moment, but the rest of us are here to help at any time.


The Balls you have..... hahahahahaha


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Saturday:    Hey, quick request, i was playing a little on the bitcoin site tonight and some player dax hit the slot jackpot  😊   

I think it was at 16,000? or 17.... im not sure,   somewhere around there,  (the range that it usually is hit in)......   The Dash site was about the same also maybe 2 or 3 weeks ago, i think it was hit pretty low actually, like around 14,000 (although it may have been higher)


anyway,  once again, on the zcash site, I have brought the jackpot up to 30,000 (for the 4th time in a row, its gone over 30,000),  there is one other player (planti) who also plays, (not much but I'd say hes prob responsible for ~ 20%)

But can you do me a favor,   only because last time between me (75%) and planti (20%) we actually got the jackpot up to something so absurd like over 50,000....

Just to sign on one day and see the one player bcab50fc8c    who never leaves, yet i've never seen play,   magically won the jackpot that I literally spent about a month everynight building up the jackpot to an absurd level that never happens on either of the other two sites.... 



However long it takes to finally win is fine by me,  and to be honest, if planti wins it, I'd be ok with that as well....   (Id be annoyed, but also happy for him, bc he absolutely does play regularly.....)


And I have a feeling the jackpot is gonna go above 30,000... then above 40,000 and prob above 50,000.....etc.   (i dont know why but still),   It was such an insult the last time that happened, by a player who is currently online, yet not playing of course....   and this was after WEEEKS and weeks, every night,   I mean he actually won 12 zcash and 10 zcash on playing 0.002 slot machines.... 

We both know that just isnt how it works...... In fact, unless the jackpot is over 60,000 then I don't see how its possible to win 12.9 on a 0.002 bet, and it was not that high.....


anyway, doesnt matter,   no need to respond, if you dont want me to win, i def understand, let planti get a jackpot.....

(A little less fun, but at least not insulting)



Thanks I really appreciate it...

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I just noticed he started playing for the first time, so i guess after a few weeks of me bringing the jackpot above 35,000, he'll magically win it...

Thats just a hunch i have, since im a gambler.... hahahahaha



Wednesday 2:30 am   Feb 28, 2018 at 2:23am   bcab50fc8c   Slots   0.002   8 Lines   4.913        [Jackpot]




hahahahahahhahahahaa are you seriously kidding me?




Im posting those exact emails on the scam list because that was even more blatant than last time, and if im wrong, why dont you fucking respond you little prick.  I hope everyone takes the time to read this post carefully......


He doesnt reply to my emails anymore cuz i bitch all the time, which is understandable, but i used to complain because i was a sore loser, this is just amazing.....



Guess what!!! I periodically check to see,  look who hit the jackpot again!

May 3, 2018 at 7:16pm   bcab50fc8c   Slots   Bonus   7 Lines   4.9753

hahahahahahahahhaha if anyone is still playing on any of these sites they are fucking dumb

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How great are these guys?  

Thank you!




They are great, keep playing for a few years, you'll really love them

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Thanks for the kind words!
Email is generally the best way to get a hold of us,  but we do try to monitor this thread too.
Tom is working on some other projects at the moment, but the rest of us are here to help at any time.


The Balls you have..... hahahahahaha


Quick Rundown: Emails sent to Roger

Saturday:    Hey, quick request, i was playing a little on the bitcoin site tonight and some player dax hit the slot jackpot  😊   

I think it was at 16,000? or 17.... im not sure,   somewhere around there,  (the range that it usually is hit in)......   The Dash site was about the same also maybe 2 or 3 weeks ago, i think it was hit pretty low actually, like around 14,000 (although it may have been higher)


anyway,  once again, on the zcash site, I have brought the jackpot up to 30,000 (for the 4th time in a row, its gone over 30,000),  there is one other player (planti) who also plays, (not much but I'd say hes prob responsible for ~ 20%)

But can you do me a favor,   only because last time between me (75%) and planti (20%) we actually got the jackpot up to something so absurd like over 50,000....

Just to sign on one day and see the one player bcab50fc8c    who never leaves, yet i've never seen play,   magically won the jackpot that I literally spent about a month everynight building up the jackpot to an absurd level that never happens on either of the other two sites.... 



However long it takes to finally win is fine by me,  and to be honest, if planti wins it, I'd be ok with that as well....   (Id be annoyed, but also happy for him, bc he absolutely does play regularly.....)


And I have a feeling the jackpot is gonna go above 30,000... then above 40,000 and prob above 50,000.....etc.   (i dont know why but still),   It was such an insult the last time that happened, by a player who is currently online, yet not playing of course....   and this was after WEEEKS and weeks, every night,   I mean he actually won 12 zcash and 10 zcash on playing 0.002 slot machines.... 

We both know that just isnt how it works...... In fact, unless the jackpot is over 60,000 then I don't see how its possible to win 12.9 on a 0.002 bet, and it was not that high.....


anyway, doesnt matter,   no need to respond, if you dont want me to win, i def understand, let planti get a jackpot.....

(A little less fun, but at least not insulting)



Thanks I really appreciate it...

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Wednesday 12:30 am

I just noticed he started playing for the first time, so i guess after a few weeks of me bringing the jackpot above 35,000, he'll magically win it...

Thats just a hunch i have, since im a gambler.... hahahahaha



Wednesday 2:30 am   Feb 28, 2018 at 2:23am   bcab50fc8c   Slots   0.002   8 Lines   4.913        [Jackpot]




hahahahahahhahahahaa are you seriously kidding me?




Im posting those exact emails on the scam list because that was even more blatant than last time, and if im wrong, why dont you fucking respond you little prick.  I hope everyone takes the time to read this post carefully......


He doesnt reply to my emails anymore cuz i bitch all the time, which is understandable, but i used to complain because i was a sore loser, this is just amazing.....



Guess what!!! I periodically check to see,  look who hit the jackpot again!

May 3, 2018 at 7:16pm   bcab50fc8c   Slots   Bonus   7 Lines   4.9753

hahahahahahahahhaha if anyone is still playing on any of these sites they are fucking dumb


How great are these guys?  

Thank you!




They are great, keep playing for a few years, you'll really love them

I'm afraid we're not inclined to get back on this nonsensical merry-go-round again, jasonbourne212.

Please read through the posts in this thread from the time of your self-quoted post above; there's literally nothing more to say on this topic than what has already been said so it would be a rather pointless endeavor to attempt to engage with you on it. However, if you have anything new to bring to this particular conversation - or indeed any solid, implementable idea on how to resolve any of the issues raised - we'll be very glad to engage with you on that. Smiley

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Trying to send you a pm but you have the newbie option turned off in your profile

Profile -> Personal message options -> allow newbies to send you PMs.
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