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French GP race results

1   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   53 Laps
2   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   + 18.056s
3   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   + 18.995s
4   Max Verstappen   NED   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda   + 34.905s
5   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Scuderia Ferrari   + 62.796s
6   Carlos Sainz   ESP   McLaren F1 Team   + 95.462s
7   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   Renault F1 Team   '+1 Lap
8   Kimi Raikkonen   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing   '+1 Lap
9   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Renault F1 Team   '+1 Lap
10   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   '+1 Lap
11   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda   '+1 Lap
12   Sergio Perez   MEX   SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team   '+1 Lap
13   Lance Stroll   CAN   SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team   '+1 Lap
14   Alexander Albon   THA   Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda   '+1 Lap
15   Daniil Kvyat   RUS   Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda   '+1 Lap
16   Antonio Giovinazzi   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing   '+1 Lap
17   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Rich Energy Haas F1 Team   '+1 Lap
18   Robert Kubica   POL   ROKiT Williams Racing   '+2 Laps
19   George Russell   GBR   ROKiT Williams Racing   +2 Laps
RET   Romain Grosjean   FRA   Rich Energy Haas F1 Team

[Juggy777]

French GP race results

1   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   53 Laps
2   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   + 18.056s

Mercedes drivers won the first and second position and with this race they have almost secured their title, as no other drivers seems keen to compete against them. This season is simply a repeat of last season where Mercedes completely dominated all the races, but with the exception of Bottas he’s been impressive this season. What do you’ll think is the main problem with other drivers is it their cars, or their technical team is simply not good enough?.

[swogerino]

The Championship is getting boring in F1 with Mercedes dominating every single race and all the other teams are far from being a rival to Mercedes.We need more rivalry here in order for it to be more enjoyable to watch.

It is a different thing in MotoGP,there are always great overtaking moves in almost every race and it is more beautiful to watch compared to F1.

[Naida_BR]

The Championship is getting boring in F1 with Mercedes dominating every single race and all the other teams are far from being a rival to Mercedes.We need more rivalry here in order for it to be more enjoyable to watch.

It is a different thing in MotoGP,there are always great overtaking moves in almost every race and it is more beautiful to watch compared to F1.

You are right, but I have people blaming Mercedes for that.
Instead of blaming Mercedes for being the best, why not blaming Ferrari for not improving? We need better teams in the championhip not worse, but still people don't like that Mercedes is No1.

[LTU_btc]

The Championship is getting boring in F1 with Mercedes dominating every single race and all the other teams are far from being a rival to Mercedes.We need more rivalry here in order for it to be more enjoyable to watch.

It is a different thing in MotoGP,there are always great overtaking moves in almost every race and it is more beautiful to watch compared to F1.

You are right, but I have people blaming Mercedes for that.
Instead of blaming Mercedes for being the best, why not blaming Ferrari for not improving? We need better teams in the championhip not worse, but still people don't like that Mercedes is No1.

Yeah, god point, there is no need to blame Mercedes that they are dominating.. Other teams like Ferrari or Red Bull should improve.
Yesterday it was another boring race, we only saw some iinteresting moments in the middle of peloton, like Norris defending his position against Ricciardo and others.
Probably it's most boring season that I saw and no wonder that fans are switching to MotoGP, IndyCar or even NASCAR.

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Well every 4-5 season one comes like this one to be boring from start to finish of the season. Most interesting is battle for 4th and 5th place in constructors competition. Where several teams are into this spot. Most improvement so far I saw from McLaren, also we have Hass and Renault and from shadow Alfa, could be from time to time even and Toro Rosso. We will see how this will come to be but dont expect to see any change till new regulation comes in 2021.

[Naida_BR]

Qualifying laps today in Austria and A1 ring.
Yesterday Vettel made again a mistake that made him be out of track. Let's see what will happen today.

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We have double this weekend MotoGP and Formula1

MOTOGP Qualifying results

1   Fabio Quartararo   FRA   Petronas Yamaha (YZR-M1)*   1'32.017s   6/7   305k
2   Maverick Viñales   SPA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +0.140s   6/8   309k
3   Alex Rins   SPA   Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   +0.441s   5/6   309k
4   Marc Marquez   SPA   Repsol Honda (RC213V)   +0.714s   3/7   312k
5   Joan Mir   SPA   Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)*   +1.068s   3/8   309k
6   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   +1.211s   3/8   314k
7   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Mission Winnow Ducati (GP19)   +1.265s   2/7   310k
8   Takaaki Nakagami   JPN   LCR Honda (RC213V)   +1.278s   7/8   310k
9   Franco Morbidelli   ITA   Petronas Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +1.297s   8/8   305k
10   Jack Miller   AUS   Pramac Ducati (GP19)   +1.306s   7/8   315k
11   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Mission Winnow Ducati (GP19)   +1.675s   7/7   314k
12   Pol Espargaro   SPA   Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16)   +1.745s   2/3   310k                   
13   Francesco Bagnaia   ITA   Pramac Ducati (GP18)*   1'33.221s   7/8   309k
14   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   1'33.466s   7/7   306k
15   Aleix Espargaro   SPA   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1'33.547s   7/7   309k
16   Karel Abraham   CZE   Reale Avintia Ducati (GP18)   1'33.583s   7/7   310k
17   Miguel Oliveira   POR   Red Bull KTM Tech3 (RC16)*   1'33.706s   3/7   306k
18   Johann Zarco   FRA   Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16)   1'33.776s   7/7   307k
19   Hafizh Syahrin   MAL   Red Bull KTM Tech3 (RC16)   1'33.869s   3/7   308k
20   Andrea Iannone   ITA   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1'33.960s   3/7   305k
21   Tito Rabat   SPA   Reale Avintia Ducati (GP18)   1'34.580s   8/8   307k

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Formula1 qualifying results

1   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   + 0.331s   1m03.378s   1m03.003s
2   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   + 0.011s   + 0.425s   + 0.259s
3   Max Verstappen   NED   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda   1m03.807s   + 0.457s   + 0.436s
4   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   + 0.277s   + 0.485s   + 0.534s
5   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Rich Energy Haas F1 Team   + 0.971s   + 1.088s   + 1.069s
6   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   + 0.554s   + 0.833s   + 1.096s
7   Kimi Raikkonen   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing   + 0.808s   + 0.678s   + 1.163s
8   Antonio Giovinazzi   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing   + 0.643s   + 0.816s   + 1.176s
9   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda   + 0.605s   + 0.610s   + 1.196s
10   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Scuderia Ferrari   + 0.533s   + 0.289s   no time
11   Romain Grosjean   FRA   Rich Energy Haas F1 Team   + 0.745s   + 1.112s   
12   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Renault F1 Team   + 0.926s   + 1.138s   
13   Alexander Albon   THA   Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda   + 0.901s   + 1.287s   
14   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   Renault F1 Team   + 0.840s   + 1.412s   
15   Carlos Sainz   ESP   McLaren F1 Team   + 0.646s   + 10.223s   
16   Sergio Perez   MEX   SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team   + 0.982s       
17   Lance Stroll   CAN   SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team   + 1.025s       
18   Daniil Kvyat   RUS   Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda   + 1.517s       
19   George Russell   GBR   ROKiT Williams Racing   + 2.097s       
20   Robert Kubica   POL   ROKiT Williams Racing   + 2.399s

GRID PENALTIES
Hamilton drop three places
George Russell drop three places

[Naida_BR]

Formula1 qualifying results

1   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   + 0.331s   1m03.378s   1m03.003s
2   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   + 0.011s   + 0.425s   + 0.259s
3   Max Verstappen   NED   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda   1m03.807s   + 0.457s   + 0.436s
4   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   + 0.277s   + 0.485s   + 0.534s
5   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Rich Energy Haas F1 Team   + 0.971s   + 1.088s   + 1.069s
6   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   + 0.554s   + 0.833s   + 1.096s
7   Kimi Raikkonen   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing   + 0.808s   + 0.678s   + 1.163s
8   Antonio Giovinazzi   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing   + 0.643s   + 0.816s   + 1.176s
9   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda   + 0.605s   + 0.610s   + 1.196s
10   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Scuderia Ferrari   + 0.533s   + 0.289s   no time
11   Romain Grosjean   FRA   Rich Energy Haas F1 Team   + 0.745s   + 1.112s   
12   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Renault F1 Team   + 0.926s   + 1.138s   
13   Alexander Albon   THA   Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda   + 0.901s   + 1.287s   
14   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   Renault F1 Team   + 0.840s   + 1.412s   
15   Carlos Sainz   ESP   McLaren F1 Team   + 0.646s   + 10.223s   
16   Sergio Perez   MEX   SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team   + 0.982s       
17   Lance Stroll   CAN   SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team   + 1.025s       
18   Daniil Kvyat   RUS   Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda   + 1.517s       
19   George Russell   GBR   ROKiT Williams Racing   + 2.097s       
20   Robert Kubica   POL   ROKiT Williams Racing   + 2.399s

GRID PENALTIES
Hamilton drop three places
George Russell drop three places

Fair penalty for Hamilton as he blocked Raikkonen's fast lap.
It would be an interesting race to see. Hamilton will start from 5th place and Vettel from 10th. I am very hyped to see what would be the strategy that both drivers would follow.

[LTU_btc]

Fair penalty for Hamilton as he blocked Raikkonen's fast lap.
It would be an interesting race to see. Hamilton will start from 5th place and Vettel from 10th. I am very hyped to see what would be the strategy that both drivers would follow.

Yeah, Hamilton deserved penalty and now Ferrari fans won't be able to say that FIA is protecting Hamilton. It should be interesting race tomorrow. And Vettel will start 9th, not 10th because Magnussen also got grid penalty.

[bbc.reporter]

@Naida_BR. That would be boring, I reckon. It would be more exciting to see the opening laps between Max Verstappen and Charles Leclerc hehehe.

[Naida_BR]

@Naida_BR. That would be boring, I reckon. It would be more exciting to see the opening laps between Max Verstappen and Charles Leclerc hehehe.

I expect that both Vettel and Hamilton will overcome many drivers in the start and give us some pieces of adrenaline.
It would be also interesting to see Max having a good start and compete leclerc in the first turn. This race has all the fonds of not being boring!

[tokeweed]

^  Lawl.  And I actually invited some friends over to watch some F1 for that...  And Verstappen stalled.  -_-

[Naida_BR]

^  Lawl.  And I actually invited some friends over to watch some F1 for that...  And Verstappen stalled.  -_-

Bad start from Max Verstappen but still he is a lot of competitive, till now.
Also, Vettel is doing a great race. In my opinion he is the driver of the day. I hope to see Leclerc winning as well, Hamilton seems to have troubles in this track.

[Juggy777]

^  Lawl.  And I actually invited some friends over to watch some F1 for that...  And Verstappen stalled.  -_-

Bad start from Max Verstappen but still he is a lot of competitive, till now.
Also, Vettel is doing a great race. In my opinion he is the driver of the day. I hope to see Leclerc winning as well, Hamilton seems to have troubles in this track.

Max Verstappen who won the race has suggested that Formula 1 drivers should stay at home if the incident involving him and Charles Leclerc is punished? I feel rules are required to keep drivers in check, and if this incident has breached them then he should definitely be punished. As of now the stewards are yet investigating the incident and we will shortly come to know whether they decide to strip him of his victory or not.

Link Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/news/924619/1/verstappen-f1-drivers-should-stay-home-if-thats-penalty

[LTU_btc]

It was best race this season and one of the best races in few recent years. Verstappen had awful start, but then he performed amazing. But yeah, that accident with Leclerc left bad taste in the mouth and it's still under investigation. I'm not sure that he should be punished, it's very questionable moment. But I think that he didn't had to risk so much. He was faster than Leclerc and he probable would overtake him safely on next DRS zone. Leclerc again was very close from winning his first F1 race...
Vettel today had good race. But it's worth to say that he lost too much time during one pit stop.
EDIT F1 just announced that no further action on lap 69 incident, so Verstappen remains 1st

[Naida_BR]

^  Lawl.  And I actually invited some friends over to watch some F1 for that...  And Verstappen stalled.  -_-

Bad start from Max Verstappen but still he is a lot of competitive, till now.
Also, Vettel is doing a great race. In my opinion he is the driver of the day. I hope to see Leclerc winning as well, Hamilton seems to have troubles in this track.

Max Verstappen who won the race has suggested that Formula 1 drivers should stay at home if the incident involving him and Charles Leclerc is punished? I feel rules are required to keep drivers in check, and if this incident has breached them then he should definitely be punished. As of now the stewards are yet investigating the incident and we will shortly come to know whether they decide to strip him of his victory or not.

Link Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/news/924619/1/verstappen-f1-drivers-should-stay-home-if-thats-penalty

It was just a fight that happened into racing. This incident is totally different from the Canada's one. I think that stewards made the right decision not to punish Verstappen. After all he was the fastest car on the track after the pit stop that boosted him to No1

[bbc.reporter]

It was best race this season and one of the best races in few recent years. Verstappen had awful start, but then he performed amazing. But yeah, that accident with Leclerc left bad taste in the mouth and it's still under investigation. I'm not sure that he should be punished, it's very questionable moment. But I think that he didn't had to risk so much. He was faster than Leclerc and he probable would overtake him safely on next DRS zone. Leclerc again was very close from winning his first F1 race...
Vettel today had good race. But it's worth to say that he lost too much time during one pit stop.
EDIT F1 just announced that no further action on lap 69 incident, so Verstappen remains 1st

Agreed! After Sebastian retires after this season, Charles Leclerc will be Ferrari's driver no.1. This will be the beginning of a new rivalry between 2 young drivers for 2020.

Ross Brawn's new storyboard is presenting itself hehehe.

[swogerino]

Yesterday race in F1 was different compared to other races,a lot of action yesterday and a really good win from Max Verstapen,well deserved after great overtaking moves.I choose to see both races yesterday and both races were good but the F1 one was the better one to watch.