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May 19, 2023, 05:09:09 PM
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Apart from Ferrari's being still a problematic team I would like to point out a fact about Leclerc also. It really started to feel like Leclerc will have a huge difficulty in winning a championship even if his car gets faster than Red Bull's. Because the number of simple mistakes he makes continues to increase. The Azerbaijan GP weekend must be one of the greatest examples for that.

He literally made the same mistake twice in free practice and qualifying sessions. He also stated his sorrow about these mistakes. He needs to get over these things as soon as possible. He needs to be a much more concentrated driver than this. Because Formula 1 is a sport that really doesn't forgive this kind of mistakes.
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May 19, 2023, 10:30:46 PM
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Apart from Ferrari's being still a problematic team I would like to point out a fact about Leclerc also. It really started to feel like Leclerc will have a huge difficulty in winning a championship even if his car gets faster than Red Bull's. Because the number of simple mistakes he makes continues to increase. The Azerbaijan GP weekend must be one of the greatest examples for that.

When you have and underperforming car is easier to make mistakes.
Look at Verstappen years ago and how many mistakes he was doing before having a competitive RedBull.

When you have a competitive car you can even go slower because you know that later in the races they can't do anything to beat you while if you have and underperforming car you need to give 100% at every turn and it is easier to make mistakes.

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According to some recent news Mercedes and Hamilton sat at the table to discuss terms about a new contract. If I'm not mistaken this is his last year at Mercedes. But it doesn't seem like he is getting the 8th world championship in his career now. Mercedes are way behind Red Bull now so there is really no way to do it. But Hamilton can still stay longer to give another chance to Mercedes for improving more.

But it is said that they couldn't reach an agreement for now due to the financial details of a new contract. Most probably Mercedes don't want to offer a contract similar to the old ones and Hamilton demands a lot of money from them. But I don't know if Mercedes are ready yet to let Hamilton go this easy. Having two solid drivers is very advantageous for them in the end.

If Hamilton leaves I wonder who Mercedes' choice would be. Ricciardo or Mick? Honestly my choice would be Ricciardo as he is much more experienced and skilled.

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May 20, 2023, 07:25:48 PM
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According to some recent news Mercedes and Hamilton sat at the table to discuss terms about a new contract. If I'm not mistaken this is his last year at Mercedes. But it doesn't seem like he is getting the 8th world championship in his career now. Mercedes are way behind Red Bull now so there is really no way to do it. But Hamilton can still stay longer to give another chance to Mercedes for improving more.

But it is said that they couldn't reach an agreement for now due to the financial details of a new contract. Most probably Mercedes don't want to offer a contract similar to the old ones and Hamilton demands a lot of money from them. But I don't know if Mercedes are ready yet to let Hamilton go this easy. Having two solid drivers is very advantageous for them in the end.

If Hamilton leaves I wonder who Mercedes' choice would be. Ricciardo or Mick? Honestly my choice would be Ricciardo as he is much more experienced and skilled.


I don't think Hamilton has so many choices, he will probably stay there or he will end his competitive opportunity to win a title.

HE can only stay there or go to Ferrari, otherwise he can win no more.

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May 20, 2023, 09:11:09 PM
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According to some recent news Mercedes and Hamilton sat at the table to discuss terms about a new contract. If I'm not mistaken this is his last year at Mercedes. But it doesn't seem like he is getting the 8th world championship in his career now. Mercedes are way behind Red Bull now so there is really no way to do it. But Hamilton can still stay longer to give another chance to Mercedes for improving more.

But it is said that they couldn't reach an agreement for now due to the financial details of a new contract. Most probably Mercedes don't want to offer a contract similar to the old ones and Hamilton demands a lot of money from them. But I don't know if Mercedes are ready yet to let Hamilton go this easy. Having two solid drivers is very advantageous for them in the end.

If Hamilton leaves I wonder who Mercedes' choice would be. Ricciardo or Mick? Honestly my choice would be Ricciardo as he is much more experienced and skilled.


I don't think Hamilton has so many choices, he will probably stay there or he will end his competitive opportunity to win a title.

HE can only stay there or go to Ferrari, otherwise he can win no more.

Most likely this is how it is going to be for him as I don't see any opportunity for him to be joining Max Verstappen in Redbull.The reason to be that most likely Redbull team would not love to remove a team mate like Perez for Verstappen which 99% of the times Verstappen can beat him and only 1% can lose to him while against Hamilton we don't know how will these two drivers be performing against each other and most likely would create problems to the team rather than solving them.

So for me the best Hamilton can do is to swap place with one of the Ferrari drivers as honestly I would love to see him driving a Ferrari as an end to his career,based on what he has given to F1 he surely deserve it.

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May 20, 2023, 09:34:51 PM
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According to some recent news Mercedes and Hamilton sat at the table to discuss terms about a new contract. If I'm not mistaken this is his last year at Mercedes. But it doesn't seem like he is getting the 8th world championship in his career now. Mercedes are way behind Red Bull now so there is really no way to do it. But Hamilton can still stay longer to give another chance to Mercedes for improving more.

But it is said that they couldn't reach an agreement for now due to the financial details of a new contract. Most probably Mercedes don't want to offer a contract similar to the old ones and Hamilton demands a lot of money from them. But I don't know if Mercedes are ready yet to let Hamilton go this easy. Having two solid drivers is very advantageous for them in the end.

If Hamilton leaves I wonder who Mercedes' choice would be. Ricciardo or Mick? Honestly my choice would be Ricciardo as he is much more experienced and skilled.
I think what people need to remember is that Mercedes is not getting what they are paying for Hamilton anymore, not just because of him obviously and because of the car as well, but the reality is simple, he is no longer a 40-50 million dollar contract guy, the car is not that good so why should they pay him, if only argument for Hamilton is that it is not his fault, they can find someone else to drive a terrible car for much cheaper as well.

However, from Hamiltons point of view we are talking about someone who won so many titles for Mercedes and that means on some of the years he won, he was underpaid, so even when he is not making them money this season or next, they should pay him out of loyalty if nothing else. I am sure they will figure out a middle ground and sign it soon.
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May 20, 2023, 09:48:07 PM
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In my opinion it looks really difficult for Hamilton to reach his eight world title from now on. Because Red Bull are way ahead of any other team remaining right now. And it looks like this gap among these teams is likely to get bigger in time. Because I don't see any team keeping up with Red Bull's development pace either. It is like a new domination era by Red Bull this time.

Mercedes and Ferrari both are far away from their potential right now. As long as Mercedes don't give a fast car to Hamilton he had better just forget about being champion from now on. There wouldn't be any need for him to push more in that case.

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May 20, 2023, 10:13:29 PM
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If you're missing F1 too much, F1 made cool thing and uploaded some iconic full races to Youtube. For example, 2005 race in Imola and epic fight between young Alonso and Schumacher:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bflJGN9YByM And that sound of cars.
Or 2021 Emilia Romagnia GP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQbXYF5N5Ws Tomorrow they will stream 2008 rainy Monaco GP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRLYSsldne4
Meanwhile cancelation of this GP can be beneficial for teams as it will et let them to savesome money.

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According to some recent news Mercedes and Hamilton sat at the table to discuss terms about a new contract. If I'm not mistaken this is his last year at Mercedes. But it doesn't seem like he is getting the 8th world championship in his career now. Mercedes are way behind Red Bull now so there is really no way to do it. But Hamilton can still stay longer to give another chance to Mercedes for improving more.

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Mercedes knows that Hamilton is currently a good driver for their car, maybe until now they have not found a potential driver to drive their car. Moreover, even though Hamilton is quite old, his performance is not far behind compared to young drivers, even though until now he has not been able to keep up with Verstappen, but his performance is still stable in 4th place now and that might be a consideration for Mercedes.

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According to some recent news Mercedes and Hamilton sat at the table to discuss terms about a new contract. If I'm not mistaken this is his last year at Mercedes. But it doesn't seem like he is getting the 8th world championship in his career now. Mercedes are way behind Red Bull now so there is really no way to do it. But Hamilton can still stay longer to give another chance to Mercedes for improving more.

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Mercedes knows that Hamilton is currently a good driver for their car, maybe until now they have not found a potential driver to drive their car. Moreover, even though Hamilton is quite old, his performance is not far behind compared to young drivers, even though until now he has not been able to keep up with Verstappen, but his performance is still stable in 4th place now and that might be a consideration for Mercedes.

I don't think Mercedes will improve to the point to give Hamilton a dominating car like he had many years with them which gave him 6 world titles.Therefore for me it is better if he can swap places with one of the Ferrari drivers and as I said because what he gave to F1 in general he deserve to race one or two seasons with a legendary car like Ferrari which I am sure they will be improving their car,not to be the best one but to be able to fight with others and for this they need a very talented driver which Hamilton surely is.He deserve that 8th world title with a new car and what better car than Ferrari.

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In two days factory Ducati and Yamaha will take steps to set up private testing at Italy's Mugello circuit before the race takes place there next month. This is done by these two manufacturers for a better goal and also to find out where their motorbikes have been weak so far. And those who will appear there are two tider tests that have been quite famous so far, namely Cal Crutchlow for Yamaha and Michele Pirro for Ducati. Source: gpone.com
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So what do you guys think about Honda power units,powering up Alonso car in 2026 as they at Aston Martin will use the Honda power unit starting from that year.I think all the F1 fans remember the GP2 engine,GP2 engine Alonso complaints back when he was at McLaren but I think that he will not be complaining now as it is the exact engine that is skyrocketing the Redbull to three consecutive titles so far as I think this year we will not have someone to contest Redbull and most likely up until the end of the season we will see a Redbull dominance.

I hope Alonso does not retire until then so he will have a chance to win his third title at a very old age which would be unique for F1.

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Mercedes started restyling their car.
From Monaco, you will see a car more similar to RBR.

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Mercedes started restyling their car.
From Monaco, you will see a car more similar to RBR.

Rain is possible on sunday

Finally, Mercedes ended part of the mystery by bringing the new W14 to finally leave the zeropod behind.

But, I'm honestly not expecting big changes in performance as even Toto Wolff assured that the improvements won't be a "silver bullet" for the Monaco GP, so I prefer to be cautious in my bets before putting all my chips in Hammilton .
Even so, I certainly believe that the improvements to the W14 are crucial and very important to improve Mercedes' performance not only on the track but also off them, as it is good for Lewis Hamilton that Mercedes continues to bring innovations and captivate the driver to continue in the team and renew the contract that expires at the end of this season. Ferrari is already eyeing him!

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Rain is possible on sunday

We all hope for rain in a lot of races as it increases the beauty of the race itself as a lot of unpredictable stuff happens.When all this happen in normal race tracks that are not as narrow as Monaco is,I only imagine that in this track if rain comes will be great for all of us F1 fans.

For any car that try to resemble Redbull they will never surpass Redbull in performance as Redbull has the best aerodynamics engineer that has over 20-30 years experience in F1,I don't remember well but is in F1 since Hakkinen times so you can't fight Redbull this way,maximum you will upgrade your own performance but not surpassing Redbull.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCK3mI5P5XU&t=408s

It was very interesting to see the two Leclercs sit down together discussing some of the racing stuff and how prepared they are to race on their home circuit. There are many things that made Arthur interested in F1 and it seems he is quite interested in getting into F1. In my opinion, there is a lot of potential between the two Leclercs and it would be very interesting to see them both competing in F1 with different teams. what do you think?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCK3mI5P5XU&t=408s

It was very interesting to see the two Leclercs sit down together discussing some of the racing stuff and how prepared they are to race on their home circuit. There are many things that made Arthur interested in F1 and it seems he is quite interested in getting into F1. In my opinion, there is a lot of potential between the two Leclercs and it would be very interesting to see them both competing in F1 with different teams. what do you think?

Arthur has potential for F1 , but does it have the money ?Sad Because we all know what F1 is about nowadays. But I were to chose between them , I would go with Charles just because he seems a complete driver than his little brother but Charles has no luck...and you need a bit of luck in F1 if you want to succeed.

Don't forget that Montoya currently is locked to be in F1 season at some point and his dad is trying everything he can in order to bring him in F1 because he has the sponsors , the skills and also the money.

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Pos    Driver    Nat.   Team    Time
1   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m13.372s
2   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m13.710s
3   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m14.035s
4   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m14.038s
5   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m14.093s
6   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m14.224s
7   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m14.467s
8   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m14.585s
9   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m14.653s
10   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m14.666s
11   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m14.718s
12   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m14.725s
13   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    1m14.820s
14   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m14.866s
15   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m15.066s
16   Nyck de Vries   NED   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m15.083s
17   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m15.192s
18   Logan Sargeant   USA   Williams Racing   1m15.557s
19   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m15.684s
20   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m15.785s

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1026853/1/f1-2023-monaco-grand-prix-friday-practice-results


1st hour is done, teams are very close so far.

we got 2 red flags for hitting walls.

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May 26, 2023, 02:37:37 PM
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Alfa Romeo racer, Valtteri Bottas wanted to revive the Kymiring circuit project which had been delayed so that Dorna had several times canceled the circuit to hold races because there were still many things that had to be completed apart from the regulations from Dorna itself for the circuit. Additionally, the first two attempts to host the event failed due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Plans to hold closed races were disrupted by the unfinished construction of the paddock and road access. Source: id.motorsport.com
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May 26, 2023, 05:49:33 PM
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It looks like it will be such a tight qualifying session if we don't see any accident during it. Because we have FP2 results in hand as well and there is a really slight time gap between Verstappen and Leclerc at top - 0.065s. To tell the truth I'm still expecting Sainz to prepare for a strong attack in the qualifying session because he has also seemed quite fast so far. But my favourite driver to take pole position is Leclerc now. Even though Red Bull is the strongest team on the grid things change a lot in Monaco.

The reason why is that Monaco track is completely different from all others. Cornering performance is the most important factor here. Right now Ferrari seems faster at turns rather than straights in comparison to Red Bull. This is just the track for Ferrari with a downforce focused car setup. I hope Leclerc doesn't mess up his weekend while pushing to the limit in the qualifying session tomorrow.
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