Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments

[sinner]

maybe I'm confused--if you're offline when somebody sends you blackbytes, then the blackbytes just disappear into the ether?

[MirkoIta]

maybe I'm confused--if you're offline when somebody sends you blackbytes, then the blackbytes just disappear into the ether?

Not really.it means that if you do a full backup before you receive BlackBytes,then receive them and recover your wallet from that old backup you will only find the BB you had untill the moment you made the backup.

[sinner]

Not really.it means that if you do a full backup before you receive BlackBytes,then receive them and recover your wallet from that old backup you will only find the BB you had untill the moment you made the backup.

So if I'm offline for 5 minutes, and during that 5 minute time period, somebody sends me blackbytes, do they disappear into the ether?

If the blackbytes are received as soon as I come back online, how is that different than if restore the same wallet while offline on another computer (then go online on computer w/restored wallet)?

[cryptocratic]

Is it normal that recovery from full backup does not restore subsequent (made after backup) transactions?
v1.9.1 light

Bytes tx are stored in the public ledger but Blackbytes tx are only stored locally, so a restore only brings back tx before the backup.

In my case also balance of bytes becomes zero. Backup was made before b/bb exchange with smart contract and restored after it. I exchanged not all bytes so it is notable that balance becomes zero. In history the chunk of bytes that should stay in my wallet appears as 'moved' to some unknown to me address.

Thanks in advance.

[sinner]

From what you guys have said, and from the whitepaper:

When users pay in blackbytes or other private assets, they   have   to send private payloads and absolutely need devices that can communicate.      They   need   to know each other’s device addresses   before they even learn each other’s payment addresses.  Once their devices have established   communication,   the   payee can   send   his payment address to the payer via chat message.

It seems that anybody who is offline when Tony distributes blackbytes will not receive them?

I guess I should have 1 computer always online but make it multisig with other signers offline?

[LoyceV]

So if I'm offline for 5 minutes, and during that 5 minute time period, somebody sends me blackbytes, do they disappear into the ether?

No, I've received blackbytes aftter much more time offline.

If the blackbytes are received as soon as I come back online, how is that different than if restore the same wallet while offline on another computer (then go online on computer w/restored wallet)?

I'm still not exactly sure how it works. I am going to experiment with it though, and will share my findings.

As far as I understand blackbytes, it would be a really cool feature to some how be able to print blackbytes from my wallet on a piece of paper, making it a single-use anonymous paper currency.

[ByteFan]

maybe I'm confused--if you're offline when somebody sends you blackbytes, then the blackbytes just disappear into the ether?

No. You get it when you are back up.

[memberx]

From what you guys have said, and from the whitepaper:

When users pay in blackbytes or other private assets, they   have   to send private payloads and absolutely need devices that can communicate.      They   need   to know each other’s device addresses   before they even learn each other’s payment addresses.  Once their devices have established   communication,   the   payee can   send   his payment address to the payer via chat message.

It seems that anybody who is offline when Tony distributes blackbytes will not receive them?

I guess I should have 1 computer always online but make it multisig with other signers offline?

Doesn't make sense, and I received them offline last time.


This time not yet, but guess Blackbytes weren't distributed yet?

[lijoe408]

I still haven't received my GB or my BB from this round    I thought at least the GB would be in by now.

If you didn't get GB, I think something's wrong. Based on posts, looks like everyone that linked up properly already got paid. You may have sent your BTC too late or removed too early.

No I didn't receive any airdrop for GB held in my byteball wallet.  These are the same GB which i held last distribution round and received airdrop.  There's no reason i shouldn't have gotten it this time since the GB were never moved.

I even chatted with the transition bot beforehand it told me the GB and BB that I would receive.  As of right now I have not received any GB or BB for Bytes held in my wallet or linked btc

[BitcoinArsenal]

That is a wrong assumption. I have never been online when Byteballs nor BlackByteballs were distributed. I received all distributions by now. I guess you did something wrong. Probably you did not send the Byteballs to the given address in the chat bot message. This is a very common mistake many do at the beginning. On my first distribution I thought I did everything right but I only got Byteball and no Blackbyteballs. Then I learned I have to transfer my Byteball to the given address in order to receive BlackByteballs, too.

From what you guys have said, and from the whitepaper:

When users pay in blackbytes or other private assets, they   have   to send private payloads and absolutely need devices that can communicate.      They   need   to know each other’s device addresses   before they even learn each other’s payment addresses.  Once their devices have established   communication,   the   payee can   send   his payment address to the payer via chat message.

It seems that anybody who is offline when Tony distributes blackbytes will not receive them?

I guess I should have 1 computer always online but make it multisig with other signers offline?

[Gatekeeper]

I really like byteball and am hoping BB price doesn't mirror Stellar. I sold my free Stellar 2 weeks ago at 1200-1230 and right now it's 594 

[kotbi]

How to run the same byteball wallet in two different computers?

[Come-from-Beyond]

Has anyone been able to sync from scratch recently with the headless node running on HDD instead of SSD?
I tried to sync several times - no success. I run it on an old notebook which collects dust all the other time, what are minimal requirements for full node hardware setup?

EDIT: I got an answer on the slack, apparently my notebook is too old. I'll look for a better one.

[sinner]

That is a wrong assumption. I have never been online when Byteballs nor BlackByteballs were distributed. I received all distributions by now. I guess you did something wrong. Probably you did not send the Byteballs to the given address in the chat bot message. This is a very common mistake many do at the beginning. On my first distribution I thought I did everything right but I only got Byteball and no Blackbyteballs. Then I learned I have to transfer my Byteball to the given address in order to receive BlackByteballs, too.

Not necessarily--Tony has not finished distributing blackbytes for this round.

The transition bot never asked me to send byteball to a given address, I don't know what you're referring to.

[ranlo]

That is a wrong assumption. I have never been online when Byteballs nor BlackByteballs were distributed. I received all distributions by now. I guess you did something wrong. Probably you did not send the Byteballs to the given address in the chat bot message. This is a very common mistake many do at the beginning. On my first distribution I thought I did everything right but I only got Byteball and no Blackbyteballs. Then I learned I have to transfer my Byteball to the given address in order to receive BlackByteballs, too.

Not necessarily--Tony has not finished distributing blackbytes for this round.

The transition bot never asked me to send byteball to a given address, I don't know what you're referring to.

When you start, it asks for your BB address. I have the feeling people are giving it the wrong address and so it isn't being linked. If people would read the text that literally tells you step by step EXACTLY what to do, there would be zero issues. It couldn't be easier, seriously.

[The Catcher in the Rye]

How P2P chat works in byteball? Is it some kind of "onchain" chat where all messages encrypted and stored in DAG?
Can it be used to chat with anyone in the network or it's restricted to my own devices only?

[Wekkel]

I received my black bytes for this round.

[bitserve]

Now that the airdrop "fever" is passing. I have some questions about BLackbytes.

I mean, what are Blackbytes from technical perspective? I understand theres not blockchain for them so... what are those?
If there's no blockchain how do we know how many in total there are? How do we know they are "authentic"?
Any wiki or tutorial where I can read about it?

I want to understand what makes them so particular that you need to do a physical backup of them and can't recover them otherwise. It seems so different than the other tokens I am used to where you have a private/public key which you can use to restore everything.

[SatoNatomato]

How P2P chat works in byteball? Is it some kind of "onchain" chat where all messages encrypted and stored in DAG?
Can it be used to chat with anyone in the network or it's restricted to my own devices only?

Not stored in DAG, encrypted and traverses Byteball network, looking for its destination, stored at hubs for a configurable amount of time. You can chat with anyone, if you haved paired previously with the other device/person before - otherwise spam would be a problem.

[Come-from-Beyond]

Not stored in DAG, encrypted and traverses Byteball network, looking for its destination, stored at hubs for a configurable amount of time. You can chat with anyone, if you haved paired previously with the other device/person before - otherwise spam would be a problem.

While you are here: Could you explain how to use Byteball for IoT? My i7 notebook can't sync as a full node, what about tiny IoT devices then?

EDIT: It's not really that old, here is its configuration -