Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments

[bobq]

I wonder why not so many Exchanges are yet listing Byteball. What are they waiting for? Byteball trading has quite some volume, sometimes near airdrops it surges up to over 1000 BTCs, exchanges would earn more with Byteball than with many other coins that they are listing.

[laylow]

I have it for claim 

[bones261]

I wonder why not so many Exchanges are yet listing Byteball. What are they waiting for? Byteball trading has quite some volume, sometimes near airdrops it surges up to over 1000 BTCs, exchanges would earn more with Byteball than with many other coins that they are listing.

Well Poloniex for one can't handle what they have. They are still behind in support tickets, or so the buzz seems to be. This coin is probably too much to handle for Yobit. Listings on GDAX and Bitfinex are hard to come by.

[jwinterm]

Code:

Error: Cannot find module 'byteballcore/constants.js'

I am trying to start headless-byteball on a Ubuntu server 16.04. Installed node and npm from apt-get, cloned headless repo and core into home directory and headless directory, but still getting error shown above. Am I missing something stupid?

Maybe.
In you application root directory do you have /byteballcore/constants.js ?

I definitely have it in there, you can see in the terminal output below:

Code:

root@monerobux:~/byteballcore# apt-get install nodejs
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
nodejs is already the newest version (4.2.6~dfsg-1ubuntu4.1).
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 114 not upgraded.
root@monerobux:~/byteballcore# apt-get install npm
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
npm is already the newest version (3.5.2-0ubuntu4).
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 114 not upgraded.
root@monerobux:~/byteballcore# cd ../headless-byteball/
root@monerobux:~/headless-byteball# ls byteballcore/
README.md                  event_bus.js                   package.json
balances.js                graph.js                       paid_witnessing.js
bots.js                    headers_commission.js          parent_composer.js
breadcrumbs.js             indivisible_asset.js           private_payment.js
byteball-sqlite-light.sql  initial.byteball-light.sqlite  profiler.js
byteball-sqlite.sql        initial.byteball.sqlite        signature.js
byteball.sql               joint_storage.js               sqlite_migrations.js
catchup.js                 light.js                       sqlite_pool.js
chash.js                   light.sql                      storage.js
chat_storage.js            light_wallet.js                uri.js
check_daemon.js            mail.js                        validation.js
composer.js                main_chain.js                  validation_utils.js
conf.js                    mc_outputs.js                  wallet.js
[b]constants.js [/b]              merkle.js                      wallet_defined_by_addresses.js
db.js                      mutex.js                       wallet_defined_by_keys.js
definition.js              my_witnesses.js                wallet_general.js
desktop_app.js             mysql_pool.js                  witness_proof.js
device.js                  network.js                     writer.js
divisible_asset.js         object_hash.js
enforce_singleton.js       object_length.js
root@monerobux:~/headless-byteball# node start.js
-bash: node: command not found
root@monerobux:~/headless-byteball# nodejs start.js
module.js:328
    throw err;
    ^

Error: Cannot find module 'byteballcore/constants.js'
    at Function.Module._resolveFilename (module.js:326:15)
    at Function.Module._load (module.js:277:25)
    at Module.require (module.js:354:17)
    at require (internal/module.js:12:17)
    at Object.<anonymous> (/root/headless-byteball/start.js:6:17)
    at Module._compile (module.js:410:26)
    at Object.Module._extensions..js (module.js:417:10)
    at Module.load (module.js:344:32)
    at Function.Module._load (module.js:301:12)
    at Function.Module.runMain (module.js:442:10)
root@monerobux:~/headless-byteball#

I have to run "nodejs" not just "node" using this ubuntu server. That's the same thing, right? Seems like yes ( https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18130164/nodejs-vs-node-on-ubuntu-12-04 ), just checking tho...

Actually just tried to run "npm install" again and it's not finishing cleanly it seems:

Code:

root@monerobux:~/headless-byteball# npm install
loadDep:json-rpc2 -> reso \ |###############-----------------------------------------------------------|
WARN engine json-rpc2@1.0.2: wanted: {"node":"0.10.x || 0.12.x"} (current: {"node":"4.2.6","npm":"3.5.2"}npm WARN deprecated es5class@2.3.1: this package isn't maintained anymore because ES6+
extract:mkdirp -> gunzTar / |###########################################################---------------|
Killed

Is that because I'm using too new node/npm version possibly?

[ByteFan]

Code:

Error: Cannot find module 'byteballcore/constants.js'

I am trying to start headless-byteball on a Ubuntu server 16.04. Installed node and npm from apt-get, cloned headless repo and core into home directory and headless directory, but still getting error shown above. Am I missing something stupid?

Maybe.
In you application root directory do you have /byteballcore/constants.js ?

I definitely have it in there, you can see in the terminal output below:

Code:

root@monerobux:~/byteballcore# apt-get install nodejs
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
nodejs is already the newest version (4.2.6~dfsg-1ubuntu4.1).
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 114 not upgraded.
root@monerobux:~/byteballcore# apt-get install npm
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
npm is already the newest version (3.5.2-0ubuntu4).
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 114 not upgraded.
root@monerobux:~/byteballcore# cd ../headless-byteball/
root@monerobux:~/headless-byteball# ls byteballcore/
README.md                  event_bus.js                   package.json
balances.js                graph.js                       paid_witnessing.js
bots.js                    headers_commission.js          parent_composer.js
breadcrumbs.js             indivisible_asset.js           private_payment.js
byteball-sqlite-light.sql  initial.byteball-light.sqlite  profiler.js
byteball-sqlite.sql        initial.byteball.sqlite        signature.js
byteball.sql               joint_storage.js               sqlite_migrations.js
catchup.js                 light.js                       sqlite_pool.js
chash.js                   light.sql                      storage.js
chat_storage.js            light_wallet.js                uri.js
check_daemon.js            mail.js                        validation.js
composer.js                main_chain.js                  validation_utils.js
conf.js                    mc_outputs.js                  wallet.js
[b]constants.js [/b]              merkle.js                      wallet_defined_by_addresses.js
db.js                      mutex.js                       wallet_defined_by_keys.js
definition.js              my_witnesses.js                wallet_general.js
desktop_app.js             mysql_pool.js                  witness_proof.js
device.js                  network.js                     writer.js
divisible_asset.js         object_hash.js
enforce_singleton.js       object_length.js
root@monerobux:~/headless-byteball# node start.js
-bash: node: command not found
root@monerobux:~/headless-byteball# nodejs start.js
module.js:328
    throw err;
    ^

Error: Cannot find module 'byteballcore/constants.js'
    at Function.Module._resolveFilename (module.js:326:15)
    at Function.Module._load (module.js:277:25)
    at Module.require (module.js:354:17)
    at require (internal/module.js:12:17)
    at Object.<anonymous> (/root/headless-byteball/start.js:6:17)
    at Module._compile (module.js:410:26)
    at Object.Module._extensions..js (module.js:417:10)
    at Module.load (module.js:344:32)
    at Function.Module._load (module.js:301:12)
    at Function.Module.runMain (module.js:442:10)
root@monerobux:~/headless-byteball#

I have to run "nodejs" not just "node" using this ubuntu server. That's the same thing, right? Seems like yes ( https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18130164/nodejs-vs-node-on-ubuntu-12-04 ), just checking tho...

Actually just tried to run "npm install" again and it's not finishing cleanly it seems:

Code:

root@monerobux:~/headless-byteball# npm install
loadDep:json-rpc2 -> reso \ |###############-----------------------------------------------------------|
WARN engine json-rpc2@1.0.2: wanted: {"node":"0.10.x || 0.12.x"} (current: {"node":"4.2.6","npm":"3.5.2"}npm WARN deprecated es5class@2.3.1: this package isn't maintained anymore because ES6+
extract:mkdirp -> gunzTar / |###########################################################---------------|
Killed

Is that because I'm using too new node/npm version possibly?

Have you check also it is not a problem with file permissions ?

I have everything run fine on ubuntu with node-v5.12.0:
wget https://nodejs.org/dist/v5.12.0/node-v5.12.0.tar.gz
sudo apt-get install python
sudo apt-get install build-essential
cd node-v5.12.0
./configure
make
sudo make install

[Come-from-Beyond]

For an unknown reason this post was deleted, I think it should be reposted:

At least you admitted that the bet hasn't happened yet, I see some result of our message exchange on this forum. Let's address the issue of DB compressibility now:
SQL database engines prioritize performance, so they add a lot of metadata for service purposes. Time-space trade-off leads to high redundancy and increases compression ratio. If we pay 1000 byteballs for 1000 bytes then it doesn't mean that the DB grows by the same number, it may grow by 2000 bytes keeping the ratio always at, for example, 40%. This doesn't mean that Byteball data can be compressed well, it means that SQLite trades space for time. If we stipped out all meta data (to get only Byteball-related data) we would be able to do the measurement proposed by you. Can I expect that you will do that?

[Come-from-Beyond]

My node has synced but I see no old balance despite of using exactly the same passphrase as on the previous node. Could someone send just 0.001 MB to

Code:

XOYBGCKAWMAT4L4RLRXFR73UZ6I2BS4N

so I would be able to check that the balance changes properly?

[LoyceV]

My node has synced but I see no old balance despite of using exactly the same passphrase as on the previous node. Could someone send just 0.001 MB to

Code:

XOYBGCKAWMAT4L4RLRXFR73UZ6I2BS4N

so I would be able to check that the balance changes properly?

https://explorer.byteball.org/#XOYBGCKAWMAT4L4RLRXFR73UZ6I2BS4N doesn't show a balance for that address.
Edit: 666 bytes sent.

[Come-from-Beyond]

https://explorer.byteball.org/#XOYBGCKAWMAT4L4RLRXFR73UZ6I2BS4N doesn't show a balance for that address.
Edit: 666 bytes sent.

Thank you, I'll buy black candles for this amount.

[viniciusfbm]

How can i get a support from the Team, i had my wallet on android and now i just get a blank screen without any response

[CryptKeeper]

How can i get a support from the Team, i had my wallet on android and now i just get a blank screen without any response

Please join our slack and file a request in the #helpdesk channel!
http://slack.byteball.org/

[johhnyUA]

I have a question to developers and especially for tonych: What will be after distribution? Do team have any plans for next step of development? What kind of future for Byteball you see? Any agreement with some platforms and startups?
Raw technology it's not enough too keep price high. 

[pwpwpw]

I have a question to developers and especially for tonych: What will be after distribution? Do team have any plans for next step of development? What kind of future for Byteball you see? Any agreement with some platforms and startups?
Raw technology it's not enough too keep price high. 

You mean actually using it for fast, near feeless transactions is not good enough ? I highly doubt that.

[stevebc]

I have a question to developers and especially for tonych: What will be after distribution? Do team have any plans for next step of development? What kind of future for Byteball you see? Any agreement with some platforms and startups?
Raw technology it's not enough too keep price high. 

You mean actually using it for fast, near feeless transactions is not good enough ? I highly doubt that.

Takes two sides to make a transaction! Near Feeless is good, but will we ever be able to buy Groceries with Byteball?  That is my secret crypto wish....

[pockets1989]

I have a question to developers and especially for tonych: What will be after distribution? Do team have any plans for next step of development? What kind of future for Byteball you see? Any agreement with some platforms and startups?
Raw technology it's not enough too keep price high. 

Great question I have a feeling tonych is secretly working on something pretty big as he has only been putting out bug fixes lately.  But what do I know  2018 could be  byteball's year in a  huge  way once airdrops finish.

[jfieschi]

JOIN the BYTEBALL Telegram Group:  https://t.me/byteball

     

[dreamhouse]

guys . stop selling you chickens. unbelievable. this coin is one of the best projects in my opinion.

dump the other shit and hold this coin!

It doesn't matter what you think or what you want.
This is not how it works. Don't fight the market! You will always lose that way.
So sit it out, hold the coins you have if you believe in it's success and try to take advantage of the actual circumstances and maybe buy more if you can or just sell and relax. Anything else will just make you go crazy in your head. Not healthy I can tell!

The low price now is probably a good opportunity, but all depends on the bitcoin, which is the king of the cybercurrency.

[CoinCidental]

guys . stop selling you chickens. unbelievable. this coin is one of the best projects in my opinion.

dump the other shit and hold this coin!

It doesn't matter what you think or what you want.
This is not how it works. Don't fight the market! You will always lose that way.
So sit it out, hold the coins you have if you believe in it's success and try to take advantage of the actual circumstances and maybe buy more if you can or just sell and relax. Anything else will just make you go crazy in your head. Not healthy I can tell!

The low price now is probably a good opportunity, but all depends on the bitcoin, which is the king of the cybercurrency.

Take it as a buying opportunity .......It wont last
People now are lucky because these prices will rise exponentially after year 1

[pwpwpw]

I have a question to developers and especially for tonych: What will be after distribution? Do team have any plans for next step of development? What kind of future for Byteball you see? Any agreement with some platforms and startups?
Raw technology it's not enough too keep price high. 

You mean actually using it for fast, near feeless transactions is not good enough ? I highly doubt that.

Takes two sides to make a transaction! Near Feeless is good, but will we ever be able to buy Groceries with Byteball?  That is my secret crypto wish....

If a cryptocurrency will ever do that (and it looks pretty inevitable) then you can bet your ass byteball is gonna be at the top of that list, btc is too slow for that and eth will have too high fees in a year, the only thing byteball needs is more users (or at least bigger trade volume).

[pockets1989]

I think byteball only has two possible outcomes: either massive selloffs happen and development stalls and  byteball settles in at $50-100 as forgotten coin or it moons and hits maybe 0.75 btc/gb or even btc parity and becomes a top 3 crypto (Bitcoin, Ethereum and Byteball).   Thats my humble opinion.