Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments

[bspus]

It's foolish to sell btc now when it is the last chance to buy bitcoins that will be able to be imported on whatever split chain emerges after 1st August. After that date it will be possible to buy only one chain bitcoins. It's like selling ethereum before DAO split. Anybody holding or buying before that split ended having ether on two chains instead of one (Ethereum and Ethereum Classic). Unfortunately people don't act rationally but emotionally.

It's only stupid if you believe the sum of value of both chains will be equal or higher than the old one.
We actually don't know, and even if it is so in the long run, there might be plenty of opportunity to speculate in the meantime

[davidoski]

I definitely believe that. I don't think the coming fork is going to stop/kill/criple bitcoin. It's just not certain which chain will win in the long run. That's why I think it's better now to hold btc instead of sell.

[drnash85]

I'm really impressed with Byteball™. (Way ahead of it's time).

[s1lverbox]

It's foolish to sell btc now when it is the last chance to buy bitcoins that will be able to be imported on whatever split chain emerges after 1st August. After that date it will be possible to buy only one chain bitcoins. It's like selling ethereum before DAO split. Anybody holding or buying before that split ended having ether on two chains instead of one (Ethereum and Ethereum Classic). Unfortunately people don't act rationally but emotionally.

It's only stupid if you believe the sum of value of both chains will be equal or higher than the old one.
We actually don't know, and even if it is so in the long run, there might be plenty of opportunity to speculate in the meantime

simple example of etc and eth showing that sum of both chains might be higher than single one.

So not really stupid to think that. Another thing is if anyone is willing to risk and trade on that. I wouldnt dare.

[legera]

When is the next distribution?

[CryptoXMan]

When is the next distribution?

August 7, 2017 at 18:10 UTC

[someone111]

I appreciate the betting stuff.

https://byteroll.com/trading/sports-betting

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FX5XUPoj.png&t=578&c=lIsn8d2MQTKllg

However, usability wise it looks like very bad. Do I need to explain why average Joe will be confused by it? Do you plan on improving this?

Thank you for all your work!

[pockets1989]

I guess we saw  the  bottom at  $350.   Im  not gonna  lie  I  was  panicking a  little been here  since the  beginning  of  byteball but  I  didnt sell  one  GB.    The true believers know  this  coin has top 5 potential once true price discovery begins at  the end of  the  airdrops.   Keep calm  and  HODL.  this  may not be  bigger  than ethereum  but  its  gonna be HUGE with development at this  pace.

[bobq]

I wonder why not so many Exchanges are yet listing Byteball. What are they waiting for? Byteball trading has quite some volume, sometimes near airdrops it surges up to over 1000 BTCs, exchanges would earn more with Byteball than with many other coins that they are listing.

[laylow]

I have it for claim 

[bones261]

I wonder why not so many Exchanges are yet listing Byteball. What are they waiting for? Byteball trading has quite some volume, sometimes near airdrops it surges up to over 1000 BTCs, exchanges would earn more with Byteball than with many other coins that they are listing.

Well Poloniex for one can't handle what they have. They are still behind in support tickets, or so the buzz seems to be. This coin is probably too much to handle for Yobit. Listings on GDAX and Bitfinex are hard to come by.

[jwinterm]

Code:

Error: Cannot find module 'byteballcore/constants.js'

I am trying to start headless-byteball on a Ubuntu server 16.04. Installed node and npm from apt-get, cloned headless repo and core into home directory and headless directory, but still getting error shown above. Am I missing something stupid?

Maybe.
In you application root directory do you have /byteballcore/constants.js ?

I definitely have it in there, you can see in the terminal output below:

Code:

root@monerobux:~/byteballcore# apt-get install nodejs
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
nodejs is already the newest version (4.2.6~dfsg-1ubuntu4.1).
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 114 not upgraded.
root@monerobux:~/byteballcore# apt-get install npm
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
npm is already the newest version (3.5.2-0ubuntu4).
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 114 not upgraded.
root@monerobux:~/byteballcore# cd ../headless-byteball/
root@monerobux:~/headless-byteball# ls byteballcore/
README.md                  event_bus.js                   package.json
balances.js                graph.js                       paid_witnessing.js
bots.js                    headers_commission.js          parent_composer.js
breadcrumbs.js             indivisible_asset.js           private_payment.js
byteball-sqlite-light.sql  initial.byteball-light.sqlite  profiler.js
byteball-sqlite.sql        initial.byteball.sqlite        signature.js
byteball.sql               joint_storage.js               sqlite_migrations.js
catchup.js                 light.js                       sqlite_pool.js
chash.js                   light.sql                      storage.js
chat_storage.js            light_wallet.js                uri.js
check_daemon.js            mail.js                        validation.js
composer.js                main_chain.js                  validation_utils.js
conf.js                    mc_outputs.js                  wallet.js
[b]constants.js [/b]              merkle.js                      wallet_defined_by_addresses.js
db.js                      mutex.js                       wallet_defined_by_keys.js
definition.js              my_witnesses.js                wallet_general.js
desktop_app.js             mysql_pool.js                  witness_proof.js
device.js                  network.js                     writer.js
divisible_asset.js         object_hash.js
enforce_singleton.js       object_length.js
root@monerobux:~/headless-byteball# node start.js
-bash: node: command not found
root@monerobux:~/headless-byteball# nodejs start.js
module.js:328
    throw err;
    ^

Error: Cannot find module 'byteballcore/constants.js'
    at Function.Module._resolveFilename (module.js:326:15)
    at Function.Module._load (module.js:277:25)
    at Module.require (module.js:354:17)
    at require (internal/module.js:12:17)
    at Object.<anonymous> (/root/headless-byteball/start.js:6:17)
    at Module._compile (module.js:410:26)
    at Object.Module._extensions..js (module.js:417:10)
    at Module.load (module.js:344:32)
    at Function.Module._load (module.js:301:12)
    at Function.Module.runMain (module.js:442:10)
root@monerobux:~/headless-byteball#

I have to run "nodejs" not just "node" using this ubuntu server. That's the same thing, right? Seems like yes ( https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18130164/nodejs-vs-node-on-ubuntu-12-04 ), just checking tho...

Actually just tried to run "npm install" again and it's not finishing cleanly it seems:

Code:

root@monerobux:~/headless-byteball# npm install
loadDep:json-rpc2 -> reso \ |###############-----------------------------------------------------------|
WARN engine json-rpc2@1.0.2: wanted: {"node":"0.10.x || 0.12.x"} (current: {"node":"4.2.6","npm":"3.5.2"}npm WARN deprecated es5class@2.3.1: this package isn't maintained anymore because ES6+
extract:mkdirp -> gunzTar / |###########################################################---------------|
Killed

Is that because I'm using too new node/npm version possibly?

[ByteFan]

Code:

Error: Cannot find module 'byteballcore/constants.js'

I am trying to start headless-byteball on a Ubuntu server 16.04. Installed node and npm from apt-get, cloned headless repo and core into home directory and headless directory, but still getting error shown above. Am I missing something stupid?

Maybe.
In you application root directory do you have /byteballcore/constants.js ?

I definitely have it in there, you can see in the terminal output below:

Code:

root@monerobux:~/byteballcore# apt-get install nodejs
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
nodejs is already the newest version (4.2.6~dfsg-1ubuntu4.1).
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 114 not upgraded.
root@monerobux:~/byteballcore# apt-get install npm
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
npm is already the newest version (3.5.2-0ubuntu4).
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 114 not upgraded.
root@monerobux:~/byteballcore# cd ../headless-byteball/
root@monerobux:~/headless-byteball# ls byteballcore/
README.md                  event_bus.js                   package.json
balances.js                graph.js                       paid_witnessing.js
bots.js                    headers_commission.js          parent_composer.js
breadcrumbs.js             indivisible_asset.js           private_payment.js
byteball-sqlite-light.sql  initial.byteball-light.sqlite  profiler.js
byteball-sqlite.sql        initial.byteball.sqlite        signature.js
byteball.sql               joint_storage.js               sqlite_migrations.js
catchup.js                 light.js                       sqlite_pool.js
chash.js                   light.sql                      storage.js
chat_storage.js            light_wallet.js                uri.js
check_daemon.js            mail.js                        validation.js
composer.js                main_chain.js                  validation_utils.js
conf.js                    mc_outputs.js                  wallet.js
[b]constants.js [/b]              merkle.js                      wallet_defined_by_addresses.js
db.js                      mutex.js                       wallet_defined_by_keys.js
definition.js              my_witnesses.js                wallet_general.js
desktop_app.js             mysql_pool.js                  witness_proof.js
device.js                  network.js                     writer.js
divisible_asset.js         object_hash.js
enforce_singleton.js       object_length.js
root@monerobux:~/headless-byteball# node start.js
-bash: node: command not found
root@monerobux:~/headless-byteball# nodejs start.js
module.js:328
    throw err;
    ^

Error: Cannot find module 'byteballcore/constants.js'
    at Function.Module._resolveFilename (module.js:326:15)
    at Function.Module._load (module.js:277:25)
    at Module.require (module.js:354:17)
    at require (internal/module.js:12:17)
    at Object.<anonymous> (/root/headless-byteball/start.js:6:17)
    at Module._compile (module.js:410:26)
    at Object.Module._extensions..js (module.js:417:10)
    at Module.load (module.js:344:32)
    at Function.Module._load (module.js:301:12)
    at Function.Module.runMain (module.js:442:10)
root@monerobux:~/headless-byteball#

I have to run "nodejs" not just "node" using this ubuntu server. That's the same thing, right? Seems like yes ( https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18130164/nodejs-vs-node-on-ubuntu-12-04 ), just checking tho...

Actually just tried to run "npm install" again and it's not finishing cleanly it seems:

Code:

root@monerobux:~/headless-byteball# npm install
loadDep:json-rpc2 -> reso \ |###############-----------------------------------------------------------|
WARN engine json-rpc2@1.0.2: wanted: {"node":"0.10.x || 0.12.x"} (current: {"node":"4.2.6","npm":"3.5.2"}npm WARN deprecated es5class@2.3.1: this package isn't maintained anymore because ES6+
extract:mkdirp -> gunzTar / |###########################################################---------------|
Killed

Is that because I'm using too new node/npm version possibly?

Have you check also it is not a problem with file permissions ?

I have everything run fine on ubuntu with node-v5.12.0:
wget https://nodejs.org/dist/v5.12.0/node-v5.12.0.tar.gz
sudo apt-get install python
sudo apt-get install build-essential
cd node-v5.12.0
./configure
make
sudo make install

[Come-from-Beyond]

For an unknown reason this post was deleted, I think it should be reposted:

At least you admitted that the bet hasn't happened yet, I see some result of our message exchange on this forum. Let's address the issue of DB compressibility now:
SQL database engines prioritize performance, so they add a lot of metadata for service purposes. Time-space trade-off leads to high redundancy and increases compression ratio. If we pay 1000 byteballs for 1000 bytes then it doesn't mean that the DB grows by the same number, it may grow by 2000 bytes keeping the ratio always at, for example, 40%. This doesn't mean that Byteball data can be compressed well, it means that SQLite trades space for time. If we stipped out all meta data (to get only Byteball-related data) we would be able to do the measurement proposed by you. Can I expect that you will do that?

[Come-from-Beyond]

My node has synced but I see no old balance despite of using exactly the same passphrase as on the previous node. Could someone send just 0.001 MB to

Code:

XOYBGCKAWMAT4L4RLRXFR73UZ6I2BS4N

so I would be able to check that the balance changes properly?

[LoyceV]

My node has synced but I see no old balance despite of using exactly the same passphrase as on the previous node. Could someone send just 0.001 MB to

Code:

XOYBGCKAWMAT4L4RLRXFR73UZ6I2BS4N

so I would be able to check that the balance changes properly?

https://explorer.byteball.org/#XOYBGCKAWMAT4L4RLRXFR73UZ6I2BS4N doesn't show a balance for that address.
Edit: 666 bytes sent.

[Come-from-Beyond]

https://explorer.byteball.org/#XOYBGCKAWMAT4L4RLRXFR73UZ6I2BS4N doesn't show a balance for that address.
Edit: 666 bytes sent.

Thank you, I'll buy black candles for this amount.

[viniciusfbm]

How can i get a support from the Team, i had my wallet on android and now i just get a blank screen without any response

[CryptKeeper]

How can i get a support from the Team, i had my wallet on android and now i just get a blank screen without any response

Please join our slack and file a request in the #helpdesk channel!
http://slack.byteball.org/

[johhnyUA]

I have a question to developers and especially for tonych: What will be after distribution? Do team have any plans for next step of development? What kind of future for Byteball you see? Any agreement with some platforms and startups?
Raw technology it's not enough too keep price high.