o5skuumh
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July 30, 2017, 10:55:16 AM |
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I tried to get in the the last distribution, linked an address by signing a message/sending to the bot, then moved my BTC to that address. The bot confirmed that it was linked and I would be receiving X amount of byteball. Great! Then I went to sleep and I guess an hour later the BTC moved from that address to a new address (some kind of weird delayed change address thing, I'm not sure; I was incredibly dumb for keeping the BTC in a managed wallet), so at the time of distribution (a few hours later), my BTC was in a non-linked address. Didn't think to ask before, and I'm sure it's a stupid question, but is there any chance to link/claim for that address retroactively?
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memberx
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July 30, 2017, 10:56:37 AM |
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I really like the new Flight Delay insurance, does anyone have the exact specifications for such an insurance? Just one flight must be min 1 day later, anything more specific available?
thx
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davidoski
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July 30, 2017, 11:04:28 AM
Last edit: July 30, 2017, 11:24:21 AM by davidoski |
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I really like the new Flight Delay insurance, does anyone have the exact specifications for such an insurance? Just one flight must be min 1 day later, anything more specific available?
thx
As the screenshot shows you choose what kind of delay you want compensated and with what amount of money. You choose 30 min, 1 hour, 2 hours, or 4 hours or cancellation. You provide the amount of expected compensation and the bot provides you with the cost of such insurance. For anybody taking real flights and risking some serious cost associated with flight delay this is an excellent solution to be compensated. No more hassle with airlines about refunds that they rarely provide. Here it is 100% guaranteed in a trustless way. Perfect!  |
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memberx
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July 30, 2017, 11:33:22 AM |
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Just tried it with the flight dates of a friend, not working. it just say: Max compensation: 1 GB
that's it?
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davidoski
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July 30, 2017, 11:38:00 AM |
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Just tried it with the flight dates of a friend, not working. it just say: Max compensation: 1 GB
that's it?
It's just 500 USD. A bit poor then. Should allow larger refunds. I bet tonych put this to prevent any excessive bleeding of capital in case his probability calculations don't work as expected or prevent users from mistakes like 10 GB or 100 GB entered mistakenly. |
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memberx
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July 30, 2017, 11:38:43 AM |
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Just tried it with the flight dates of a friend, not working. it just say: Max compensation: 1 GB
that's it?
It's just 500 USD. A bit poor then. Should allow larger refunds. But if it's not working then you get nothing  it should show up as in the screenshot... |
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davidoski
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July 30, 2017, 11:40:59 AM |
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Just tried it with the flight dates of a friend, not working. it just say: Max compensation: 1 GB
that's it?
It's just 500 USD. A bit poor then. Should allow larger refunds. But if it's not working then you get nothing it should show up as in the screenshot... You get nothing but you paid nothing as the contract is not set up. I bet you can set up 2 or more separate contracts if you want larger compensation. Did you try two contracts for 1 GB compensation? |
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memberx
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July 30, 2017, 11:42:09 AM |
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Just tried it with the flight dates of a friend, not working. it just say: Max compensation: 1 GB
that's it?
It's just 500 USD. A bit poor then. Should allow larger refunds. But if it's not working then you get nothing it should show up as in the screenshot... You get nothing but you paid nothing as the contract is not set up. I bet you can set up a few different contracts if you want larger compensation. Did you try two contracts for 1 GB compensation? Mate, I DO NOT WANT LARGER COMPENSATION. You just didn't get it. When entering flight and date I get that "MAX COMPENSATION IS 1GB" I can't say what compensation I want So it's not fully working or not for all flights... |
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davidoski
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July 30, 2017, 11:44:14 AM |
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Just tried it with the flight dates of a friend, not working. it just say: Max compensation: 1 GB
that's it?
It's just 500 USD. A bit poor then. Should allow larger refunds. But if it's not working then you get nothing it should show up as in the screenshot... You get nothing but you paid nothing as the contract is not set up. I bet you can set up a few different contracts if you want larger compensation. Did you try two contracts for 1 GB compensation? Mate, I DO NOT WANT LARGER COMPENSATION. You just didn't get it. When entering flight and date I get that "MAX COMPENSATION IS 1GB" I can't say what compensation I want So it's not fully working or not for all flights... What did you enter as flight details? |
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zxbball
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July 30, 2017, 11:44:24 AM |
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What is the required hard disk capacity of the byteball full node? The full node capacity of the Etherum square is close to 1T. Will there be too many problems with the full node when there are so many transactions on the byteball?
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memberx
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July 30, 2017, 11:44:48 AM |
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What did you enter as a flight detail?
AB 6580 7.8.2017 |
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davidoski
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July 30, 2017, 11:49:42 AM |
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You need to put the value in a correct format: AB6580 07.08.2017. It works fine:  The price is a bit steep though on this particular flight (20%):  |
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SmartIphone
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July 30, 2017, 11:49:56 AM |
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Now we have flight delay insurance bot. It's already added to the Bot Store.
That means you can also use it for flights you're not even taking! In any other insurance business, that would be considered insurance fraud. Here it's okay I guess, and would be a nice way to experiment with it, turning it into a flight delay gambling bot. Would it also be possible to use blackbytes for flight delay insurance? "Gamble", "insurance" and "investment" are the words describing the same thing. The difference is only in the probability of loosing. If the probability of loosing is high its called gambling. If the probability of loosing is moderate it's called "insurance". If the probability of loosing is low it's called "investment". The final outcome is affecting the name too. For example if somebody went broke on an "investment" you will hear people say that he "gambled" and lost. Buying insurance is a gamble too essentially. You gamble on the probability of negative event occurrence. Those who don't buy insurance actually gamble too - on the probability of negative event not occurring. It's all the same thing but with different names given to it invoking negative or positive attitude of the one giving the name. The flight delay byteball Bot is completely gambling from what I've seen here and from few screenshots above, that's from my perspective. About the three words that you mention are three different things and different meaning. Investment is legit and allowed, who said that investment has a low chance of loss ? |
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davidoski
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July 30, 2017, 11:54:38 AM |
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Now we have flight delay insurance bot. It's already added to the Bot Store.
That means you can also use it for flights you're not even taking! In any other insurance business, that would be considered insurance fraud. Here it's okay I guess, and would be a nice way to experiment with it, turning it into a flight delay gambling bot. Would it also be possible to use blackbytes for flight delay insurance? "Gamble", "insurance" and "investment" are the words describing the same thing. The difference is only in the probability of loosing. If the probability of loosing is high its called gambling. If the probability of loosing is moderate it's called "insurance". If the probability of loosing is low it's called "investment". The final outcome is affecting the name too. For example if somebody went broke on an "investment" you will hear people say that he "gambled" and lost. Buying insurance is a gamble too essentially. You gamble on the probability of negative event occurrence. Those who don't buy insurance actually gamble too - on the probability of negative event not occurring. It's all the same thing but with different names given to it invoking negative or positive attitude of the one giving the name. The flight delay byteball Bot is completely gambling from what I've seen here and from few screenshots above, that's from my perspective. About the three words that you mention are three different things and different meaning. Investment is legit and allowed, who said that investment has a low chance of loss ? Because there are low risk investments like government bonds and plenty others and high risk "investments" like leveraged derivatives and plenty of others that are no more than gambling. |
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memberx
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July 30, 2017, 11:55:37 AM |
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You need to put the value in a correct format: AB6580 07.08.2017. It works fine: Oh thanks, didn't see the second zero. But think that should be made possible for diff. formats By the way, where will the date come from if the flight was definitely delayed and by how many minutes? |
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davidoski
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July 30, 2017, 11:58:58 AM |
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You need to put the value in a correct format: AB6580 07.08.2017. It works fine:
Oh thanks, didn't see the second zero. But think that should be made possible for diff. formats By the way, where will the date come from if the flight was definitely delayed and by how many minutes? As far as I know from the flight oracle. But I'm not sure what you need to do to check it in the app. Probably need to chat with the flight oracle - it's in the bot store:  |
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Freefactomizer
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July 30, 2017, 12:11:34 PM |
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As far as I know from the flight oracle. But I'm not sure what you need to do to check it in the app. Probably need to chat with the flight oracle - it's in the bot store:
From what I see in code, the insurance bot sends a message to user when the status of the flight is known. It communicates also with the bot oracle to make it inserting the flight status in DAG so you don't need to chat with the oracle. |
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HomoHenning
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July 30, 2017, 12:13:52 PM |
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is a BCC distribution planned? thanks!
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davidoski
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July 30, 2017, 12:20:28 PM |
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As far as I know from the flight oracle. But I'm not sure what you need to do to check it in the app. Probably need to chat with the flight oracle - it's in the bot store:
From what I see in code, the insurance bot sends a message to user when the status of the flight is known. It communicates also with the bot oracle to make it inserting the flight status in DAG so you don't need to chat with the oracle. That's perfect then. No need to do anything just wait for the message to arrive and if the flight is delayed unlock money from the contract. It's a beauty  |
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yvv
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July 30, 2017, 12:21:38 PM |
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When you establish an insurance contract the bot puts the money into the contract (just like you) and it stays there until the contract expires. So insolvency is not an issue in this case. That's the big advantage of smart contracts. The insurance payment is guaranteed by mathematics and algorithm. There's no way that you won't be paid. That's not the case with traditional insurance companies. They can go broke and not pay their clients.
Of course, there is insolvency issue with the bot too, same as with insurance company. If many flights will be delayed, the bot will get broke, and somebody will not get paid. |
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