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Author Topic: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments  (Read 1236615 times)
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July 27, 2017, 12:44:45 PM
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If the witness is attacked by DDOS, and the 12 witnesses are attacked and unable to issue witness blocks, what shall we do? Does byteball's network stop? Will it be as unsafe as DPOS?
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July 27, 2017, 01:11:18 PM
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If the witness is attacked by DDOS, and the 12 witnesses are attacked and unable to issue witness blocks, what shall we do? Does byteball's network stop? Will it be as unsafe as DPOS?

Witnesses are likely hidden with TOR so you won't be able to find them even with the complicity of the hub they are connected to. In the case you still managed to find their IP, you would need a huge DDOS power to take all them down since they are hosted all around the world on several networks all having their own DDOS protections.

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July 27, 2017, 01:21:08 PM
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so has anyone here actually used blackbytes for anything or than selling them yet?

I asked dooglus to make just-balls so we would have a good place to gamble or invest our byteballs and blackbytes but he didn't seem too excited about the idea!   Tongue

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July 27, 2017, 01:47:57 PM
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If the witness is attacked by DDOS, and the 12 witnesses are attacked and unable to issue witness blocks, what shall we do? Does byteball's network stop? Will it be as unsafe as DPOS?

Witnesses are likely hidden with TOR so you won't be able to find them even with the complicity of the hub they are connected to. In the case you still managed to find their IP, you would need a huge DDOS power to take all them down since they are hosted all around the world on several networks all having their own DDOS protections.

Is it safer to have 100 witness than just 12? Would more resources (block size) be required if there is more witness?
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July 27, 2017, 02:09:17 PM
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If the witness is attacked by DDOS, and the 12 witnesses are attacked and unable to issue witness blocks, what shall we do? Does byteball's network stop? Will it be as unsafe as DPOS?

Witnesses are likely hidden with TOR so you won't be able to find them even with the complicity of the hub they are connected to. In the case you still managed to find their IP, you would need a huge DDOS power to take all them down since they are hosted all around the world on several networks all having their own DDOS protections.

Is it safer to have 100 witness than just 12? Would more resources (block size) be required if there is more witness?

The choice of 12 witnesses is explained in whitepaper:

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We require that the number of witnesses is exactly 12. This number 12 was selected because:
• it is sufficiently large to protect against the occasional failures of a few witnesses (they might prove dishonest, or be hacked, or go offline for a long time, or lose their private keys and go offline forever)
•it is sufficiently small that humans can keep track of all the witnesses to know who is who and change the list when necessary
•the oneallowed mutation is sufficiently small compared with the 11 unchanged witnesses.

100 witnesses would require too much much work for an individual to investigate about each witness and determinate if he can be trusted or not.

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July 27, 2017, 03:10:44 PM
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100 witnesses would require too much much work for an individual to investigate about each witness and determinate if he can be trusted or not.

the more witnesses - the slower the network, the speed of the txs is the main reason to build the network with (limited amount of) trusted nodes/witnesses
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July 27, 2017, 03:13:12 PM
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I have tried to install Byteball on an old computer with Windows XP, but it doesn't run since there seems to be only the 64 bit version. Is there any 32 bit version i'vre missed or an older realease? I need it for a multisig wallet for added security.

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July 27, 2017, 03:14:19 PM
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this is profitable for bitcoin holders.
nice and diffrent concept.
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July 27, 2017, 03:18:48 PM
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I have tried to install Byteball on an old computer with Windows XP, but it doesn't run since there seems to be only the 64 bit version. Is there any 32 bit version i'vre missed or an older realease? I need it for a multisig wallet for added security.

Same URL as 64 bits version, just change 64 for 32:
https://github.com/byteball/byteball/releases/download/v1.9.3/Byteball-win32.exe

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July 27, 2017, 04:19:19 PM
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on byteball

where it this litewallet you speak of ..I can only find the 64 bit windows 10 version? on the OP page


link please?



(also weird ..this is the only thread I can't quote from on all my years/threads on bitcointalk....even after doing watch/unwatch reboot)

(me thinks byteball hates me) Sad

As an aside this same machine can get a fresh install of bitcoin core and litecoin core in 9 days...still sucks but better then the 3 weeks I've
been trying to get this to work

v1.9.3

anyway just need the litewallet link 






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July 27, 2017, 04:26:21 PM
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Light is an option to choose when you install the wallet.

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July 27, 2017, 05:03:11 PM
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100 witnesses would require too much much work for an individual to investigate about each witness and determinate if he can be trusted or not.

the more witnesses - the slower the network, the speed of the txs is the main reason to build the network with (limited amount of) trusted nodes/witnesses


If we have fast CPU or network connection, is that a problem. I heard Dash has many more than 12 nodes (witness?)
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July 27, 2017, 05:54:00 PM
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100 witnesses would require too much much work for an individual to investigate about each witness and determinate if he can be trusted or not.

the more witnesses - the slower the network, the speed of the txs is the main reason to build the network with (limited amount of) trusted nodes/witnesses


If we have fast CPU or network connection, is that a problem. I heard Dash has many more than 12 nodes (witness?)

Yes, unlimited amount of masternodes  Smiley

But I'm sure Byteball is much faster than Dash, I mean theoretical limits of the underlying technology.
We could ask the dev about the matter to get the answer from the most authoritative source
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July 28, 2017, 01:51:54 AM
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what happened to byteball price? seems keep going down, any negative news on the coin?
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July 28, 2017, 03:20:13 AM
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what happened to byteball price? seems keep going down, any negative news on the coin?

It seems like It's mostly affected by the FUD around BTC and 1st August. Most people want more fiat in hand to buy back into the markets incase there are serious dips around that date. my 2sats.

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July 28, 2017, 04:18:08 AM
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what happened to byteball price? seems keep going down, any negative news on the coin?

It seems like It's mostly affected by the FUD around BTC and 1st August. Most people want more fiat in hand to buy back into the markets incase there are serious dips around that date. my 2sats.

I don't think what you said is true. Bitcoin is at a pretty high price, which is maybe 10-15% off its high, but byteball is at less than 50% of its high, something not right...
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July 28, 2017, 05:00:39 AM
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Why did the price fall so much? Has the ball been attacked? Or what other reason? CFB the gay is attacking every day, is he in the dish, the author think of ways, let him not toss about.
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July 28, 2017, 05:06:26 AM
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Well for some reason this thread says I can't guote so to sum up my problem my previous post

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on byteball

where it this litewallet you speak of ..I can only find the 64 bit windows 10 version? on the OP page


link please?



(also weird ..this is the only thread I can't quote from on all my years/threads on bitcointalk....even after doing watch/unwatch reboot)

(me thinks byteball hates me) Sad

As an aside this same machine can get a fresh install of bitcoin core and litecoin core in 9 days...still sucks but better then the 3 weeks I've
been trying to get this to work

v1.9.3

anyway just need the litewallet link 



unquote


I was told that unless I want to lose my byteballs I now have to finish this synch on the full wallet I installed before I can move stuff to a lite wallet on another machine
in that it is now synching at LESS THAN ONE DAY that likely is not gonna happen

So is there someone in power tech wise with byteball I can send my problem to

otherwise I see nothing but 'limbo' in my future

thanks


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July 28, 2017, 05:42:37 AM
Last edit: July 28, 2017, 06:33:04 AM by LoyceV
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Why did the price fall so much?
Why did the price go up so much? Many altcoins went up 2000% and more, and many altcoins dropped 50-70% from their high. Obviously something that goes up so fast can go down fast too.
And of course there's the possibility of a "pump and dump", or even "dump and pump", all meant to get your coins cheaper. Convince people to panic sell before it rises again. The cryptomarket is highly manipulated.

Last airdrop, selling right before and buying back right after the airdrop would have gotten you 50% more, while holding your bytes "only" got 20% more. That means many people speculated to profit from the 20% airdrop, which failed for them. My guess is people now speculate "the other way": sell before the airdrop hoping to profit more than the 20%.
Since I've never seen this airdrop model before, I am eager to see how it turns out each month.

It does hurt though, having double the amount of bytes compared to last month, but it's worth less. Makes me feel like holding was a bad choice at that moment, but as always you can only know those things afterwards.
On the other hand: the people who are holding for 7 months now have seen their Bytes increase many times.

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July 28, 2017, 06:39:03 AM
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Why did the price fall so much? Has the ball been attacked? Or what other reason? CFB the gay is attacking every day, is he in the dish, the author think of ways, let him not toss about.

Nothing special is happening, Byteball works well.

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