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January 29, 2017, 02:50:34 PM
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I think q' it would be necessary to authorize drugs because although she are bad for our health, traffics of drugs and his trade make more death than the drug substance.


Lol if you allow illegal drugs in the whole world then that would be a great opportunity for all the syndicates to earn and wait i would rather die than to live to that kind of world. There is a huge reason why they are not to be used and we all know why
That's true if that happens we are living in a world of disater in illegal drugs.That drug addicts they can make some heinous crime and our government cant control it.For now just lessen some drug syndicate by neutralizing them.

it think if that happens. all the producer of illegal drugs will not be that rich tho. because of low demand about it because you can actually buy illegal drugs if it is being allowed. so disallowing it will be higher the demand of it. the higher the demand the higher the value. and it is also impossible to let illegal drugs be allowed. that why it is called illegal. if it is allowed it should be called legal.
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January 29, 2017, 10:07:31 PM
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I think q' it would be necessary to authorize drugs because although she are bad for our health, traffics of drugs and his trade make more death than the drug substance.


Lol if you allow illegal drugs in the whole world then that would be a great opportunity for all the syndicates to earn and wait i would rather die than to live to that kind of world. There is a huge reason why they are not to be used and we all know why
That's true if that happens we are living in a world of disater in illegal drugs.That drug addicts they can make some heinous crime and our government cant control it.For now just lessen some drug syndicate by neutralizing them.

it think if that happens. all the producer of illegal drugs will not be that rich tho. because of low demand about it because you can actually buy illegal drugs if it is being allowed. so disallowing it will be higher the demand of it. the higher the demand the higher the value. and it is also impossible to let illegal drugs be allowed. that why it is called illegal. if it is allowed it should be called legal.
Nope actually this is the main reason why are they still selling drugs because whether the government legalized it or not it can still cause addiction and fhat leads to more demand as well. Just imagine the demand right now even if it is illegal how much more if anyone can use it
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January 30, 2017, 03:51:09 AM
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it think if that happens. all the producer of illegal drugs will not be that rich tho. because of low demand about it because you can actually buy illegal drugs if it is being allowed. so disallowing it will be higher the demand of it. the higher the demand the higher the value. and it is also impossible to let illegal drugs be allowed. that why it is called illegal. if it is allowed it should be called legal.

Drug legalization will do wonders. It will mean the end of the drug cartels. Also, it would significantly reduce the number of deaths due to drug overdose, as the potency of the drug is stable. And moreover, the government can identify the addicts and enroll them to drug de-addiction programs.

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January 30, 2017, 05:26:29 AM
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it think if that happens. all the producer of illegal drugs will not be that rich tho. because of low demand about it because you can actually buy illegal drugs if it is being allowed. so disallowing it will be higher the demand of it. the higher the demand the higher the value. and it is also impossible to let illegal drugs be allowed. that why it is called illegal. if it is allowed it should be called legal.

Drug legalization will do wonders. It will mean the end of the drug cartels. Also, it would significantly reduce the number of deaths due to drug overdose, as the potency of the drug is stable. And moreover, the government can identify the addicts and enroll them to drug de-addiction programs.

We cannot eliminate does drug addicts if there is always a new drug pusher. We should first eliminate those drug pushers before drug addicts to be eliminated. Those kind of drug pushers are the one who is working with the local governments, others are on their cabinet, we should eliminate those person who has negative knowledge, and those who are dealing with drugs.

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January 30, 2017, 05:31:11 AM
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it think if that happens. all the producer of illegal drugs will not be that rich tho. because of low demand about it because you can actually buy illegal drugs if it is being allowed. so disallowing it will be higher the demand of it. the higher the demand the higher the value. and it is also impossible to let illegal drugs be allowed. that why it is called illegal. if it is allowed it should be called legal.

Drug legalization will do wonders. It will mean the end of the drug cartels. Also, it would significantly reduce the number of deaths due to drug overdose, as the potency of the drug is stable. And moreover, the government can identify the addicts and enroll them to drug de-addiction programs.

We cannot eliminate does drug addicts if there is always a new drug pusher. We should first eliminate those drug pushers before drug addicts to be eliminated. Those kind of drug pushers are the one who is working with the local governments, others are on their cabinet, we should eliminate those person who has negative knowledge, and those who are dealing with drugs.

its should be those generals who's protecting the pushers and all the drug lords I guess it was them who's really making this ejk since that they don't want to be named by the addicts and pushers's now they using their hitman to keep killing those small time dealer who's involved selling their goods, its a big fight for the Press and PNP chief.

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January 30, 2017, 07:52:34 AM
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it think if that happens. all the producer of illegal drugs will not be that rich tho. because of low demand about it because you can actually buy illegal drugs if it is being allowed. so disallowing it will be higher the demand of it. the higher the demand the higher the value. and it is also impossible to let illegal drugs be allowed. that why it is called illegal. if it is allowed it should be called legal.

Drug legalization will do wonders. It will mean the end of the drug cartels. Also, it would significantly reduce the number of deaths due to drug overdose, as the potency of the drug is stable. And moreover, the government can identify the addicts and enroll them to drug de-addiction programs.

We cannot eliminate does drug addicts if there is always a new drug pusher. We should first eliminate those drug pushers before drug addicts to be eliminated. Those kind of drug pushers are the one who is working with the local governments, others are on their cabinet, we should eliminate those person who has negative knowledge, and those who are dealing with drugs.

its should be those generals who's protecting the pushers and all the drug lords I guess it was them who's really making this ejk since that they don't want to be named by the addicts and pushers's now they using their hitman to keep killing those small time dealer who's involved selling their goods, its a big fight for the Press and PNP chief.

yes it could be that generals or some government officials you protects the drug lord. only  big people can protect them like higher ranks on government. but  you will always think that people still vote for that kind of people. voting the wrong people as an officials of governemnt. we should pick the right people who will be sat in the governemnt like senators and such. we must eliminate the vote buying system for our country as it is the root of corruption and illegal things.
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January 30, 2017, 09:36:27 AM
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it think if that happens. all the producer of illegal drugs will not be that rich tho. because of low demand about it because you can actually buy illegal drugs if it is being allowed. so disallowing it will be higher the demand of it. the higher the demand the higher the value. and it is also impossible to let illegal drugs be allowed. that why it is called illegal. if it is allowed it should be called legal.

Drug legalization will do wonders. It will mean the end of the drug cartels. Also, it would significantly reduce the number of deaths due to drug overdose, as the potency of the drug is stable. And moreover, the government can identify the addicts and enroll them to drug de-addiction programs.

We cannot eliminate does drug addicts if there is always a new drug pusher. We should first eliminate those drug pushers before drug addicts to be eliminated. Those kind of drug pushers are the one who is working with the local governments, others are on their cabinet, we should eliminate those person who has negative knowledge, and those who are dealing with drugs.

its should be those generals who's protecting the pushers and all the drug lords I guess it was them who's really making this ejk since that they don't want to be named by the addicts and pushers's now they using their hitman to keep killing those small time dealer who's involved selling their goods, its a big fight for the Press and PNP chief.

yes it could be that generals or some government officials you protects the drug lord. only  big people can protect them like higher ranks on government. but  you will always think that people still vote for that kind of people. voting the wrong people as an officials of governemnt. we should pick the right people who will be sat in the governemnt like senators and such. we must eliminate the vote buying system for our country as it is the root of corruption and illegal things.

Those who are involve in drug business must be eliminated, all of us should know who they are, and not condemned them. We must know who will you trust on and who will be the one to vote for, to eliminate those drug protecting politicians. Local government and officials must point those who are involve with this drug pushers. We first eliminate those officials before we eliminate those drug addicts, because, when there is no supply of drugs, then drug addicts cannot provide their own drugs.
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Those who are involve in drug business must be eliminated, all of us should know who they are, and not condemned them. We must know who will you trust on and who will be the one to vote for, to eliminate those drug protecting politicians. Local government and officials must point those who are involve with this drug pushers. We first eliminate those officials before we eliminate those drug addicts, because, when there is no supply of drugs, then drug addicts cannot provide their own drugs.
It is really hard for now to know the politician that you can trust to, there are some politician that I think won't do corruption and that will never involve in drug transactions. But, they did. I hope that we can eliminate those pests in the government, just hoping that police will help the current administration and not to sabotage.

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January 30, 2017, 02:27:41 PM
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I think q' it would be necessary to authorize drugs because although she are bad for our health, traffics of drugs and his trade make more death than the drug substance.

Making it legal will just make things worst ! There is no way authorizing drugs will solve the problem of the drugs in the country ! If that happens I dont think what the world will look like be . I am not against legalising it for the sake of making it as a medicine but other than than there should be no reason at all to legalize it

What are the purpose of it?, why we should make drugs be legal?. Others think that drugs can relieve pain, but for us who knows what are the effects of drugs will be against on legalizing the drugs. We should first think what will be the effects if drugs will be going to be legal, and lets think why we need drugs? There a lot of reason why drugs are not legal in the Philippines
Legality of drugs in the Philippines would never come, as you can see a lot of users surrounds the country and what is happening to our country now?
Many rape victims, murder anywhere, anytime. It is so helpless to watch and read news everyday and the headline is always the death of a people who killed or raped by a drug addict. So,  we will not allow drugs here to legalize.

True! I would rather happy if the news is about a drug addict person being killed in police operation rather than a 7y/o girl or a 70y/o granny raped and killed by drug addict. For me Duterte is doing well to cleanse the country from drugs and corruption.
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True! I would rather happy if the news is about a drug addict person being killed in police operation rather than a 7y/o girl or a 70y/o granny raped and killed by drug addict. For me Duterte is doing well to cleanse the country from drugs and corruption.

It is really a heart breaking every time you heard about that bad news.
Duterte and his cabinet members are really doing great but sad to say that there are other politicians especially senators who just want the president to down. Instead of lifting him up and helping him, what they do is they discredit him by his past actions. They just don't allow him to do what he must supposed to do.
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January 30, 2017, 07:27:47 PM
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What about the example of Portugal?
Decriminalazing drugs and letting addicts heal instead of putting them in jail cells

That is never going to work in the Philippines. The public is heavily against any such measure. If Duterte tries to legalize the drugs, then the people will remove him and throw him to prison. Decriminalizing drugs may work in western nations, but not in the Philippines.

Legalizing drugs and decriminalizing them isn't the same

Decriminalization means it's still illegal however with lesser penalites

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What about the example of Portugal?
Decriminalazing drugs and letting addicts heal instead of putting them in jail cells

That is never going to work in the Philippines. The public is heavily against any such measure. If Duterte tries to legalize the drugs, then the people will remove him and throw him to prison. Decriminalizing drugs may work in western nations, but not in the Philippines.

Legalizing drugs and decriminalizing them isn't the same

Decriminalization means it's still illegal however with lesser penalites

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Decriminalization or decriminalisation is the lessening of criminal penalties in relation to certain acts, perhaps retroactively, though perhaps regulated permits or fines might still apply (for contrast, see: legalization). The reverse process is criminalization.
Lesser penalties also mean that this could be taking advantage. People just continue to use and sell and kill each other because they arent afraid anymore of the penalties so obviously it becomes useless in the first place
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January 31, 2017, 09:19:40 AM
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What about the example of Portugal?
Decriminalazing drugs and letting addicts heal instead of putting them in jail cells

That is never going to work in the Philippines. The public is heavily against any such measure. If Duterte tries to legalize the drugs, then the people will remove him and throw him to prison. Decriminalizing drugs may work in western nations, but not in the Philippines.

Legalizing drugs and decriminalizing them isn't the same

Decriminalization means it's still illegal however with lesser penalites

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Decriminalization or decriminalisation is the lessening of criminal penalties in relation to certain acts, perhaps retroactively, though perhaps regulated permits or fines might still apply (for contrast, see: legalization). The reverse process is criminalization.
Lesser penalties also mean that this could be taking advantage. People just continue to use and sell and kill each other because they arent afraid anymore of the penalties so obviously it becomes useless in the first place

Our president must push through the penalties for those who are drug addicts, criminals, and other who have done wrong things. If our President be like Hitler, criminals will be afraid on doing wrong things, crimes or even drug addicts will stop. We should know what will be the effects on our economy if there is no drug addicts and criminals. This can lead our economy to grow and can compete to the other big countries.
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January 31, 2017, 10:46:48 AM
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War on drugs in my country (Philippines) is a big step to my country but they are some narco politicians and some supporters of previous administration is want to dissolve it.And now they are winning with the help of bias media.
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January 31, 2017, 10:51:42 AM
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Our president must push through the penalties for those who are drug addicts, criminals, and other who have done wrong things. If our President be like Hitler, criminals will be afraid on doing wrong things, crimes or even drug addicts will stop. We should know what will be the effects on our economy if there is no drug addicts and criminals. This can lead our economy to grow and can compete to the other big countries.

You are right, however we really can't say that the economy will grow if there were no more addicts because we need job and that is why drug pushers becomes pushers because they can't find a job and aside from that i dont wan our president to run like hitler.


  Hitler kills innocent people and i don't want that president DU30 would do that
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What about the example of Portugal?
Decriminalazing drugs and letting addicts heal instead of putting them in jail cells

That is never going to work in the Philippines. The public is heavily against any such measure. If Duterte tries to legalize the drugs, then the people will remove him and throw him to prison. Decriminalizing drugs may work in western nations, but not in the Philippines.

Legalizing drugs and decriminalizing them isn't the same

Decriminalization means it's still illegal however with lesser penalites

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Decriminalization or decriminalisation is the lessening of criminal penalties in relation to certain acts, perhaps retroactively, though perhaps regulated permits or fines might still apply (for contrast, see: legalization). The reverse process is criminalization.
Lesser penalties also mean that this could be taking advantage. People just continue to use and sell and kill each other because they arent afraid anymore of the penalties so obviously it becomes useless in the first place


the reality here in the philippines is that if you are rich, you can always have a lawyer to protect you from the accusations. you can go under trials and other things just to make yourself inocent. while if you are poor, you have no right to justify yourself. you will be in the prison that fast. or even if you are rich and get to prison, you will have a special treatment like you are just in a 5 star hotel.
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January 31, 2017, 06:24:52 PM
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I think q' it would be necessary to authorize drugs because although she are bad for our health, traffics of drugs and his trade make more death than the drug substance.


Lol if you allow illegal drugs in the whole world then that would be a great opportunity for all the syndicates to earn and wait i would rather die than to live to that kind of world. There is a huge reason why they are not to be used and we all know why
That's true if that happens we are living in a world of disater in illegal drugs.That drug addicts they can make some heinous crime and our government cant control it.For now just lessen some drug syndicate by neutralizing them.

it think if that happens. all the producer of illegal drugs will not be that rich tho. because of low demand about it because you can actually buy illegal drugs if it is being allowed. so disallowing it will be higher the demand of it. the higher the demand the higher the value. and it is also impossible to let illegal drugs be allowed. that why it is called illegal. if it is allowed it should be called legal.
Nope actually this is the main reason why are they still selling drugs because whether the government legalized it or not it can still cause addiction and fhat leads to more demand as well. Just imagine the demand right now even if it is illegal how much more if anyone can use it

yes you are correct, but what im saying is that using drugs is not common here in our country, so other people will be curious about it so they will try it and eventually after days they will be regular users and become addiction. that the example of what im saying. my points is when illegal drugs will become legalized, then it will be unusual, so many people will now dont need to try it for they can always ask for the users on what they felt about it.
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February 01, 2017, 04:04:58 AM
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Lesser penalties also mean that this could be taking advantage. People just continue to use and sell and kill each other because they arent afraid anymore of the penalties so obviously it becomes useless in the first place

Why don't you look at the advantages of decriminalization? The drug users will come out of the closet and the government will be able to monitor them. This will reduce the number of deaths from drug overdose and HIV infections.

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February 01, 2017, 04:53:58 AM
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Lesser penalties also mean that this could be taking advantage. People just continue to use and sell and kill each other because they arent afraid anymore of the penalties so obviously it becomes useless in the first place

Why don't you look at the advantages of decriminalization? The drug users will come out of the closet and the government will be able to monitor them. This will reduce the number of deaths from drug overdose and HIV infections.
Just look too the disadvantage of it.How you know that drug users will come out?And if that happens drug users use drugs in public and children will see it and if you have children you can explain to them what they doing?And how do you know that government can monitor them?And the government want their country called as drugs users sanctuary.I didn't know why you promoting drugs to legalize.
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Lesser penalties also mean that this could be taking advantage. People just continue to use and sell and kill each other because they arent afraid anymore of the penalties so obviously it becomes useless in the first place

Why don't you look at the advantages of decriminalization? The drug users will come out of the closet and the government will be able to monitor them. This will reduce the number of deaths from drug overdose and HIV infections.
Just look too the disadvantage of it.How you know that drug users will come out?And if that happens drug users use drugs in public and children will see it and if you have children you can explain to them what they doing?And how do you know that government can monitor them?And the government want their country called as drugs users sanctuary.I didn't know why you promoting drugs to legalize.
Portugal decriminalised the use of all drugs in 2001.

Weed, cocaine, heroin, you name it — Portugal decided to treat possession and use of small quantities of these drugs as a public health issue, not a criminal one. The drugs were still illegal, of course. But now getting caught with them meant a small fine and maybe a referral to a treatment program — not jail time and a criminal record.

Among Portuguese adults, there are 3 drug overdose deaths for every 1,000,000 citizens. Comparable numbers in other countries range from 10.2 per million in the Netherlands to 44.6 per million in the UK, all the way up to 126.8 per million in Estonia. The EU average is 17.3 per million.


Drug use and drug deaths are complicated phenomena. They have many underlying causes. Portugal's low death rate can't be attributable solely to decriminalisation. As Dr. Joao Goulao, the architect of the country's decriminalization policy, has said, "it's very difficult to identify a causal link between decriminalisation by itself and the positive tendencies we have seen."

Still, it's very clear that decriminalisation hasn't had the severe consequences that its opponents predicted. As the Transform Drug Policy Institute says in its analysis of Portugal's drug laws, "The reality is that Portugal’s drug situation has improved significantly in several key areas. Most notably, HIV infections and drug-related deaths have decreased, while the dramatic rise in use feared by some has failed to materialise."
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