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[Inaba]

I'm not sure what you are saying?  Can you elaborate?

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[uuidman]

I just saw it. half mhash for 17 blocks now... why?

cgminer 2.4.1 cant upgrade

What he probably means is that cgminers mhash is approx half, in my case from 320 to 160 MH.

For me seen also with cgminer 2.4.1 but directly against stratum proxy (tested both) 0.5.0 and 0.8.3, (against btcguild ). Only clue for me yet is that its a 6950, 3 other 5850 same setup, no problem. Maybe you also got a 6950 ?

[eleuthria]

I just saw it. half mhash for 17 blocks now... why?

cgminer 2.4.1 cant upgrade

What he probably means is that cgminers mhash is approx half, in my case from 320 to 160 MH.

For me seen also with cgminer 2.4.1 but directly against stratum proxy (tested both) 0.5.0 and 0.8.3, (against btcguild ). Only clue for me yet is that its a 6950, 3 other 5850 same setup, no problem. Maybe you also got a 6950 ?

Just to verify:  Do you mean you had the same problem on BTC Guild (with Stratum), or that it worked fine on BTC Guild?

If you had the problem on BTC Guild, was the hash rate on the BTC Guild website displaying accurately (and cgminer was just wrong)?  I'm wondering if old cgminer versions calculated hashrate assuming submissions would always be difficulty=1.  New versions definitely don't have any problem.

[rudrigorc2]

I'm not sure what you are saying?  Can you elaborate?

until 2 days ago it was ok, 10ghash and normal submitting.

something changed yesterday/todays night ? Eclipse is showing only 5hash and my income is half too.

[kano]

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If you had the problem on BTC Guild, was the hash rate on the BTC Guild website displaying accurately (and cgminer was just wrong)?  I'm wondering if old cgminer versions calculated hashrate assuming submissions would always be difficulty=1.  New versions definitely don't have any problem.

Cgminer hash rate isn't a calculation in anything except Icarus Abort (mandatory there for all mining software)
Everywhere else it is simply a counter.

However, the U: is still share based, not difficulty based.
WU: is 1 difficulty based, but not based on pool accepts, simply device work done
(and WU: was added recently)

[uuidman]

I just saw it. half mhash for 17 blocks now... why?

cgminer 2.4.1 cant upgrade

What he probably means is that cgminers mhash is approx half, in my case from 320 to 160 MH.

For me seen also with cgminer 2.4.1 but directly against stratum proxy (tested both) 0.5.0 and 0.8.3, (against btcguild ). Only clue for me yet is that its a 6950, 3 other 5850 same setup, no problem. Maybe you also got a 6950 ?

Just to verify:  Do you mean you had the same problem on BTC Guild (with Stratum), or that it worked fine on BTC Guild?

If you had the problem on BTC Guild, was the hash rate on the BTC Guild website displaying accurately (and cgminer was just wrong)?  I'm wondering if old cgminer versions calculated hashrate assuming submissions would always be difficulty=1.  New versions definitely don't have any problem.

Same problem with BTC guild, but only on a rig with one 6950, the others alright with 5850 and all have cgminer 2.4.1. On the website the numbers seems right. I will upgrade the cgminer when I upgrade my mining build, for now an debian sid from nfsboot.

[Inaba]

I'm not sure what you are saying?  Can you elaborate?

until 2 days ago it was ok, 10ghash and normal submitting.

something changed yesterday/todays night ? Eclipse is showing only 5hash and my income is half too.

Yesterday all servers went to variable difficulty and GBT (not that GBT would affect you).  What version of cgminer are you using?  I'm curious if this is a problem with old versions of cgminer or something else.

[rudrigorc2]

I'm not sure what you are saying?  Can you elaborate?

until 2 days ago it was ok, 10ghash and normal submitting.

something changed yesterday/todays night ? Eclipse is showing only 5hash and my income is half too.

Yesterday all servers went to variable difficulty and GBT (not that GBT would affect you).  What version of cgminer are you using?  I'm curious if this is a problem with old versions of cgminer or something else.

I am still using 2.4.1 and I am unable to upgrade. I think that may be the problem

[dave3]

All servers have been updated for dynamic difficulty now.  I've changed the parameters a bit to make the difficulty a little less - it now targets 12 getworks per minute in 3 minute windows (as opposed to 8 getworks per minute in a 3 minute window) ... meaning your difficulty won't be as high as it was on the dynamic test server at a given hashrate.

Let me know if there are any problems.

I will be taking diff10 and the dynamic server (port 8437) offline at some point, please take them out of your config files.  Diff10 is repointed to us1 already, but the dynamic test server will just go poof at some point.

For what it's worth, on the dynamic us3:8437 server, I was seeing a total "U" value of 8.  After switching back to the regular server, the total "U" value is 16.

Before:

Code:

(5s):1918.5 (avg):1597.9 Mh/s | Q:2601  A:11027  R:11  HW:0  E:424%  U:8.0/m
 TQ: 0  ST: 3  SS: 0  DW: 622  NB: 165  LW: 53329  GF: 1  RF: 0  WU: 22.5
 Connected to http://us3.eclipsemc.com:8437 with LP as user ---

After:

Code:

 (5s):1161.3 (avg):1595.4 Mh/s | Q:239  A:3101  R:25  HW:0  E:1297%  U:16.1/m
 TQ: 0  ST: 3  SS: 0  DW: 23  NB: 24  LW: 7624  GF: 1  RF: 0  WU: 22.9
 Connected to http://us3.eclipsemc.com:8337 with LP as user ---

[-ck]

All servers have been updated for dynamic difficulty now.  I've changed the parameters a bit to make the difficulty a little less - it now targets 12 getworks per minute in 3 minute windows (as opposed to 8 getworks per minute in a 3 minute window) ... meaning your difficulty won't be as high as it was on the dynamic test server at a given hashrate.

Let me know if there are any problems.

I will be taking diff10 and the dynamic server (port 8437) offline at some point, please take them out of your config files.  Diff10 is repointed to us1 already, but the dynamic test server will just go poof at some point.

For what it's worth, on the dynamic us3:8437 server, I was seeing a total "U" value of 8.  After switching back to the regular server, the total "U" value is 16.

Before:

Code:

(5s):1918.5 (avg):1597.9 Mh/s | Q:2601  A:11027  R:11  HW:0  E:424%  U:8.0/m
 TQ: 0  ST: 3  SS: 0  DW: 622  NB: 165  LW: 53329  GF: 1  RF: 0  [b]WU: 22.5[/b]
 Connected to http://us3.eclipsemc.com:8437 with LP as user ---

After:

Code:

 (5s):1161.3 (avg):1595.4 Mh/s | Q:239  A:3101  R:25  HW:0  E:1297%  U:16.1/m
 TQ: 0  ST: 3  SS: 0  DW: 23  NB: 24  LW: 7624  GF: 1  RF: 0  [b]WU: 22.9[/b]
 Connected to http://us3.eclipsemc.com:8337 with LP as user ---

That's perfectly normal, as you are submitting less shares at higher difficulty. That's precisely why there's a WU column instead to compare and they're about the same within margin for normal variance over that time frame. Note they're *all* supposed to be variable difficulty by now as you can see since your U and WU  don't match, displaying that.

[dave3]

All servers have been updated for dynamic difficulty now.  I've changed the parameters a bit to make the difficulty a little less - it now targets 12 getworks per minute in 3 minute windows (as opposed to 8 getworks per minute in a 3 minute window) ... meaning your difficulty won't be as high as it was on the dynamic test server at a given hashrate.

Let me know if there are any problems.

I will be taking diff10 and the dynamic server (port 8437) offline at some point, please take them out of your config files.  Diff10 is repointed to us1 already, but the dynamic test server will just go poof at some point.

For what it's worth, on the dynamic us3:8437 server, I was seeing a total "U" value of 8.  After switching back to the regular server, the total "U" value is 16.

Before:

Code:

(5s):1918.5 (avg):1597.9 Mh/s | Q:2601  A:11027  R:11  HW:0  E:424%  U:8.0/m
 TQ: 0  ST: 3  SS: 0  DW: 622  NB: 165  LW: 53329  GF: 1  RF: 0  [b]WU: 22.5[/b]
 Connected to http://us3.eclipsemc.com:8437 with LP as user ---

After:

Code:

 (5s):1161.3 (avg):1595.4 Mh/s | Q:239  A:3101  R:25  HW:0  E:1297%  U:16.1/m
 TQ: 0  ST: 3  SS: 0  DW: 23  NB: 24  LW: 7624  GF: 1  RF: 0  [b]WU: 22.9[/b]
 Connected to http://us3.eclipsemc.com:8337 with LP as user ---

That's perfectly normal, as you are submitting less shares at higher difficulty. That's precisely why there's a WU column instead to compare and they're about the same within margin for normal variance over that time frame. Note they're *all* supposed to be variable difficulty by now as you can see since your U and WU  don't match, displaying that.

I was just thinking since the servers are set to give out 12 getworks per minute now vs. 8 getworks per minute on the old dynamic test server, that I would see a new "U" value of 12 (instead of the 16 that I'm seeing).

[-ck]

I was just thinking since the servers are set to give out 12 getworks per minute now vs. 8 getworks per minute on the old dynamic test server, that I would see a new "U" value of 12 (instead of the 16 that I'm seeing).

I don't think the estimation from the server will be perfect to give you exactly the right number of getworks. It will only ever be approximate within a range of timeframes. If you run cgminer 2.7.6 it will show you what diff shares you are submitting now.

[dave3]

I don't think the estimation from the server will be perfect to give you exactly the right number of getworks. It will only ever be approximate within a range of timeframes. If you run cgminer 2.7.6 it will show you what diff shares you are submitting now.

I upgraded cgminer from 2.7.5 to 2.7.6 today and ran it for a few hours on both a regular server, and the dynamic test server to compare them.

This is with a regular server (us3.eclipsemc.com:8337):

Code:

 cgminer version 2.7.6 - Started: [2012-09-25 13:50:55]
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 (5s):1878.9 (avg):1596.6 Mh/s | Q:154  A:1979  R:6  HW:0  E:1285%  U:15.9/m
 TQ: 0  ST: 3  SS: 0  DW: 17  NB: 14  LW: 5007  GF: 1  RF: 0  WU: 22.1
 Connected to http://us3.eclipsemc.com:8337 with LP as user ---
 Block: 00000343360189b2e6653ae3f7eb361e...  Started: [15:28:23]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 BFL 0:  59.8C         | 803.7/798.9Mh/s | A:1000 R:4 HW:0 U: 8.06/m
 BFL 1:  62.7C         | 803.8/797.7Mh/s | A: 981 R:2 HW:0 U: 7.90/m
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 [2012-09-25 15:52:31] Accepted 0e608cb9 Diff 1 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:52:33] Accepted 55ff4821 Diff 1 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:52:42] Accepted 05ec9fc0 Diff 1 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:52:42] Accepted b1fc8319 Diff 1 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:52:47] Accepted 0276cffd Diff 1 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:52:48] Accepted 2753bbc0 Diff 1 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:52:55] Accepted 5110c078 Diff 1 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:52:55] Accepted d42a26ae Diff 1 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:53:00] Accepted b950b119 Diff 1 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:53:05] Accepted 55edde49 Diff 1 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:53:09] Accepted 00e85f88 Diff 1 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:53:09] Accepted 8cfcad21 Diff 1 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:53:14] Accepted 71bc86cd Diff 1 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:53:21] Accepted 9d78a652 Diff 1 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:53:25] Accepted c50b2095 Diff 1 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:53:30] Accepted 217974b9 Diff 1 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:53:41] Accepted 9a920baf Diff 1 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:53:41] Accepted 7ed0bb23 Diff 1 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:53:43] Accepted 2a6c466f Diff 1 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:53:46] Accepted 9857a9d5 Diff 1 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:53:48] Accepted b5c1cc2e Diff 1 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:53:52] Accepted 6743b6ff Diff 1 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:53:52] Accepted 2dc972cb Diff 1 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:53:54] Accepted 77e4d753 Diff 1 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:53:59] Accepted 29a11631 Diff 1 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:54:02] Accepted 6571c1ed Diff 1 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:54:18] Accepted bab78252 Diff 1 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:54:20] Accepted 02da1ab3 Diff 1 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:54:27] Accepted 4d5210ee Diff 1 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:54:29] Accepted 99466391 Diff 1 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:54:31] Accepted 7ea77f2b Diff 1 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:54:31] Accepted 636bd8f8 Diff 1 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:54:47] Accepted 8e54c592 Diff 1 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:54:50] Accepted 8cba9563 Diff 1 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:54:58] Accepted b2b6e95e Diff 1 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:55:01] Accepted 66a19fcb Diff 1 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 15:55:01] Accepted 1bebd1a8 Diff 1 BFL 0 pool 0

This is with the dynamic test server (us3.eclipsemc.com:8437):

Code:

 cgminer version 2.7.6 - Started: [2012-09-25 15:56:27]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 (5s):1468.6 (avg):1582.5 Mh/s | Q:238  A:1003  R:0  HW:0  E:421%  U:8.3/m
 TQ: 0  ST: 3  SS: 0  DW: 50  NB: 15  LW: 4656  GF: 1  RF: 0  WU: 22.1
 Connected to http://us3.eclipsemc.com:8437 with LP as user ---
 Block: 00000005f1bf5387d0157105a798cd0e...  Started: [17:56:50]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 BFL 0:  59.8C         | 677.6/791.6Mh/s | A:508 R:0 HW:0 U: 4.20/m
 BFL 1:  62.6C         | 675.1/791.6Mh/s | A:496 R:0 HW:0 U: 4.10/m
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 [2012-09-25 17:53:19] Accepted 49cb55c7 Diff 3 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:53:41] Accepted 02086e52 Diff 3 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:53:57] Accepted 2e7f4139 Diff 3 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:54:02] Accepted 0075386a Diff 3 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:54:02] Accepted 1a00b705 Diff 3 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:54:02] Accepted 4a2ed23d Diff 3 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:54:07] Accepted 4557f784 Diff 3 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:54:18] Accepted 3655886d Diff 3 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:54:23] Accepted 4441bebe Diff 3 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:54:29] Accepted 3b213e0d Diff 3 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:54:29] Accepted 1605cab9 Diff 3 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:54:50] Accepted 47808422 Diff 3 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:54:56] Accepted 13c76db5 Diff 3 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:54:56] Accepted 2542d6cc Diff 3 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:55:01] Accepted 0321f232 Diff 3 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:55:01] Accepted 39169afd Diff 3 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:55:11] Accepted 49a31924 Diff 3 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:55:12] Accepted 0da5cfc7 Diff 3 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:55:17] Accepted 262aabc0 Diff 3 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:55:17] Accepted 1732aeab Diff 3 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:55:28] Accepted 26c27c9f Diff 3 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:55:33] Accepted 1fb350f5 Diff 3 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:55:33] Accepted 385fe40c Diff 3 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:55:38] Accepted 196fe903 Diff 3 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:55:44] Accepted 4cc5006d Diff 3 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:55:54] Accepted 25339073 Diff 3 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:55:59] Accepted 276ed065 Diff 3 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:56:00] Accepted 184a84f4 Diff 3 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:56:00] Accepted 05b945fc Diff 3 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:56:10] Accepted 19dcec1f Diff 3 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:56:32] Accepted 41e5c544 Diff 4 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:56:42] Accepted 3e5718c1 Diff 4 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:56:50] LONGPOLL from pool 0 detected new block
 [2012-09-25 17:57:05] LONGPOLL from pool 0 requested work restart
 [2012-09-25 17:57:16] Accepted 062c4e21 Diff 4 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:57:16] Accepted 14c46c49 Diff 4 BFL 1 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:57:22] Accepted 04c7a1ba Diff 4 BFL 0 pool 0

[-ck]

I don't think the estimation from the server will be perfect to give you exactly the right number of getworks. It will only ever be approximate within a range of timeframes. If you run cgminer 2.7.6 it will show you what diff shares you are submitting now.

I upgraded cgminer from 2.7.5 to 2.7.6 today and ran it for a few hours on both a regular server, and the dynamic test server to compare them.

This is with a regular server (us3.eclipsemc.com:8337):

Code:

 cgminer version 2.7.6 - Started: [2012-09-25 13:50:55]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 (5s):1878.9 (avg):1596.6 Mh/s | Q:154  A:1979  R:6  HW:0  E:1285%  U:15.9/m
 TQ: 0  ST: 3  SS: 0  DW: 17  NB: 14  LW: 5007  GF: 1  RF: 0  WU: 22.1
 Connected to http://us3.eclipsemc.com:8337 with LP as user ---
 Block: 00000343360189b2e6653ae3f7eb361e...  Started: [15:28:23]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 BFL 0:  59.8C         | 803.7/798.9Mh/s | A:1000 R:4 HW:0 U: 8.06/m
 BFL 1:  62.7C         | 803.8/797.7Mh/s | A: 981 R:2 HW:0 U: 7.90/m
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 [2012-09-25 15:52:31] Accepted 0e608cb9 Diff 1 BFL 0 pool 0

This is with the dynamic test server (us3.eclipsemc.com:8437):

Code:

 cgminer version 2.7.6 - Started: [2012-09-25 15:56:27]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 (5s):1468.6 (avg):1582.5 Mh/s | Q:238  A:1003  R:0  HW:0  E:421%  U:8.3/m
 TQ: 0  ST: 3  SS: 0  DW: 50  NB: 15  LW: 4656  GF: 1  RF: 0  WU: 22.1
 Connected to http://us3.eclipsemc.com:8437 with LP as user ---
 Block: 00000005f1bf5387d0157105a798cd0e...  Started: [17:56:50]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 BFL 0:  59.8C         | 677.6/791.6Mh/s | A:508 R:0 HW:0 U: 4.20/m
 BFL 1:  62.6C         | 675.1/791.6Mh/s | A:496 R:0 HW:0 U: 4.10/m
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 [2012-09-25 17:53:19] Accepted 49cb55c7 Diff 3 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:56:32] Accepted 41e5c544 Diff 4 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:56:42] Accepted 3e5718c1 Diff 4 BFL 0 pool 0
 [2012-09-25 17:56:50] LONGPOLL from pool 0 detected new block
 [2012-09-25 17:57:05] LONGPOLL from pool 0 requested work restart
 [2012-09-25 17:57:16] Accepted 062c4e21 Diff 4 BFL 0 pool 0
 

Looks perfect. Note how the WU is identical on both counts, and that the dynamic server is changing the diff on more than one occasion. It will start at diff 1 and slowly converge on the best balanced diff over time.

Inaba, notice what I have reported before how there are 2 longpolls 15 seconds apart on dynamic diff though? cgminer can tell when a longpoll is associated with a new block or just a request for a work restart. This 2nd longpoll still seems wrong.

[Inaba]

Does it only happen on the test server or on the regular servers as well? 

[K1773R]

EU Server (208.110.68.114) is down since some time now.

EDIT:
down since 3 hours.

[stevegee58]

US1 appears to be down for about 3 hours.

[cyberlync]

EU Server (208.110.68.114) is down since some time now.

EDIT:
down since 3 hours.

EU server? afaik it has not been set up yet? it's just pointing to us1 or something?

[Inaba]

@#$#@$ data center.  Power went out again.  I've got the new server built in the new data center, I just need to transfer everything over.

[K1773R]

EU Server (208.110.68.114) is down since some time now.

EDIT:
down since 3 hours.

EU server? afaik it has not been set up yet? it's just pointing to us1 or something?

yes "EU" server, some months back a server was called so (ask inaba), now its really pointing to us1.eclipsemc.com