Claymore's ZCash/BTG AMD GPU Miner v12.6 (Windows/Linux)

[xeridea]

I've already switched my rigs to ETH+SC.

why bother with SC it used to pay for power costs now even with 50k hash in SC you make $500 usd for the month, its not even worth the power anymore

mining ETH by itself is better imo

For me I take no hit on ETH hashrate when dual mining.......so why not?

You take no hit on the hash rate but you use 20% more power check you wattmeter.  Eth alone uses 20-30% less power so its not worth it right now with SIA coin so low same with DCR,

now if you are mining to hold SIA and DCR for a later pump them yes but be ready to pay the extra power costs

Depends if you live in the cold, and how much other heat sources cost.  Ignoring this factor, it is currently better to just mine ETH though, with extra downvolting with lower clocks.  Depending on power costs and heat needs, it could go either way, just check whattomine.com In summer, definitely better to eth only, you also have to cool your house....

[Marvell1]

I've already switched my rigs to ETH+SC.

why bother with SC it used to pay for power costs now even with 50k hash in SC you make $500 usd for the month, its not even worth the power anymore

mining ETH by itself is better imo

For me I take no hit on ETH hashrate when dual mining.......so why not?

You take no hit on the hash rate but you use 20% more power check you wattmeter.  Eth alone uses 20-30% less power so its not worth it right now with SIA coin so low same with DCR,

now if you are mining to hold SIA and DCR for a later pump them yes but be ready to pay the extra power costs

Depends if you live in the cold, and how much other heat sources cost.  Ignoring this factor, it is currently better to just mine ETH though, with extra downvolting with lower clocks.  Depending on power costs and heat needs, it could go either way, just check whattomine.com In summer, definitely better to eth only, you also have to cool your house....

winter i pay .09 , summer is .15 ,  I've been mining for years I never use heat so thats never been an issue for me all thats besides the point and really off topic.
Right now dual mining SIA,DCR are not worth the power they use due to the low prices on those.  LBR I dont know never mined that one

[Xavofat]

I've already switched my rigs to ETH+SC.

why bother with SC it used to pay for power costs now even with 50k hash in SC you make $500 usd for the month, its not even worth the power anymore

mining ETH by itself is better imo

For me I take no hit on ETH hashrate when dual mining.......so why not?

You take no hit on the hash rate but you use 20% more power check you wattmeter.  Eth alone uses 20-30% less power so its not worth it right now with SIA coin so low same with DCR,

now if you are mining to hold SIA and DCR for a later pump them yes but be ready to pay the extra power costs

Depends if you live in the cold, and how much other heat sources cost.  Ignoring this factor, it is currently better to just mine ETH though, with extra downvolting with lower clocks.  Depending on power costs and heat needs, it could go either way, just check whattomine.com In summer, definitely better to eth only, you also have to cool your house....

winter i pay .09 , summer is .15 ,  I've been mining for years I never use heat so thats never been an issue for me all thats besides the point and really off topic.
Right now dual mining SIA,DCR are not worth the power they use due to the low prices on those.  LBR I dont know never mined that one

I use the heat from the mining to heat my house. It is not a lot. It is just about a few kilo watts to do that.

[Walrusbonzo]

I think when the dust settles, ETH will be maybe 10% more profitable then ZEC due to the fact that it uses less electricity.

eTH uses less?

No it doesn't, this statement is wrong. Mining Eth absolutely uses more power than ZEC with all clocks and voltages the same.

As for dual mining, I concur with the fact that solo mining Eth is more profitable. You actually lose money mining SIA or DCR as the extra electricity cost is more than what you mine.

[Marvell1]

I think when the dust settles, ETH will be maybe 10% more profitable then ZEC due to the fact that it uses less electricity.

eTH uses less?

No it doesn't, this statement is wrong. Mining Eth absolutely uses more power than ZEC with all clocks and voltages the same.

As for dual mining, I concur with the fact that solo mining Eth is more profitable. You actually lose money mining SIA or DCR as the extra electricity cost is more than what you mine.

@Walrusbonzo - yes i agreee with you, i use around 10-15% less power mining ZEC than ETH, it was lower but the newest version of claymore raised power use by around 5% across the board.  But even with the higer power use Eth only seems to be alot more profitable than ZEC now

[yun9999]

I think when the dust settles, ETH will be maybe 10% more profitable then ZEC due to the fact that it uses less electricity.

eTH uses less?

No it doesn't, this statement is wrong. Mining Eth absolutely uses more power than ZEC with all clocks and voltages the same.

As for dual mining, I concur with the fact that solo mining Eth is more profitable. You actually lose money mining SIA or DCR as the extra electricity cost is more than what you mine.

First part is correct, Zec mining uses much less wattage then Eth solo or dual.  We should avoid General blanket statements like Dual mining is not worth it.  It all depends on your GPUs, ROMs, and electric cost.


My Example

RX470 (Mod Rom) x 7 GPU Rig on MSI Gaming 5 with Celeron CPU
Eth mining solo        - 130W - Even less with undervolting
Eth dual mining Sia  -  165-185 watts depending if undervolting or not

Wattage difference is 35-55w x 7 GPU.  We will go with the higher end at 55w x 7 = 385

Electric cost at 5 cents per kw for this 385w power difference = $13.86 /month
Dual mining with -dcri 22 gets 300 Sia per GPU.  7 x 300 sia = 2100 sia gets $28 / month right now.    So basically you're getting $14 profit a month on Sia.  For my RX470 mod ROM, I actually get .7 Eth Hash faster per GPU mining dual vs solo so that's another almost 5 MH free per rig which is another $13/month free.

Total extra profit a month = $27/month plus free heat.  Again it's all on a case by case basis, dual mining may not make sense for GPUs such as 290s, etc where the wattage draws are just ridiculous.

  

[Walrusbonzo]

yun9999, you're right, a little bit of a generalisation on my part. I have about the cheapest electricity tariff on offer in the UK and it's still more than double yours. And 7 of my 16 cards are 290x.

That's why I solo mine Eth

[Shannkerx]

Hello, i have a strange problem. In device manager i see all my 6 cards(rx480 8gb) but radeon detects only 5 and it mines with 5. Any idea? The card is working since it was mining without any problems before i preinstalled windows. I will appreciate any help. Thanks in advance.

[zawawa]

People seem to be right back to ETH as the difficulty of ETH mining increased by 6% and that of ZEC mining dropped by 6.4% I would imagine that the profitability of ZEC mining would not decrease as rapidly once it is comparable to ETH and miners return to the more established coin. We will see...

[Foss]

Anyone who has problems connecting to nicehash, try to connect by ip not by domain.

198.11.195.136:3357 USA server.
or


37.58.117.214:3357 EU server.

37.58.117.214 doesn't work

[Trimegistus]

Hello, i have a strange problem. In device manager i see all my 6 cards(rx480 8gb) but radeon detects only 5 and it mines with 5. Any idea? The card is working since it was mining without any problems before i preinstalled windows. I will appreciate any help. Thanks in advance.

Use DDU:

http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

Uninstall drivers in safe mode.

Reinstall latest drivers (or 16.9.2, very good) making sure Windows detects all 6 cards before you do.

That same thing has happened to me too  

[Za1n]

I think when the dust settles, ETH will be maybe 10% more profitable then ZEC due to the fact that it uses less electricity.

eTH uses less?

No it doesn't, this statement is wrong. Mining Eth absolutely uses more power than ZEC with all clocks and voltages the same.

As for dual mining, I concur with the fact that solo mining Eth is more profitable. You actually lose money mining SIA or DCR as the extra electricity cost is more than what you mine.

@Walrusbonzo - yes i agreee with you, i use around 10-15% less power mining ZEC than ETH, it was lower but the newest version of claymore raised power use by around 5% across the board.  But even with the higer power use Eth only seems to be alot more profitable than ZEC now

Yes, the newer version of Claymore does use about 5% more power, but also gives around 5% more sols, so it's about even in that regard.

The thing is, when keeping settings the same you can switch from ETH to ZEC and notice about a 10% power drop with no other effort as has already been mentioned, but if you make a custom ZEC WattTool profile you can drop another 10% off this as ZEC will allow you to drop the wattage more than ETH will without crashing. So it is a bit more work, but I modified my launch batch files to run WattTool with GPU initialization files customized to ZEC for lower power and another customized for ETH.

[antantti]

I think when the dust settles, ETH will be maybe 10% more profitable then ZEC due to the fact that it uses less electricity.

You must be speaking about tahiti. It is currently quite well optimised for equihash mining. How much does it suck from the wall with those 1100+/ 1500+ clocks you guys are using?

Claymore, your thoughts about 100 sols/s on 390, do you still think it is doable?

[Marvell1]

yun9999, you're right, a little bit of a generalisation on my part. I have about the cheapest electricity tariff on offer in the UK and it's still more than double yours. And 7 of my 16 cards are 290x.

That's why I solo mine Eth

@yun9999 lol 5 cents per kwh is probbaly cheaper or on par with some US mining farms get.  I can tell you 90% of miners wheo are not farm owers are paying at least double
your rate which makes dual mining a losing prop

[Marvell1]

I think when the dust settles, ETH will be maybe 10% more profitable then ZEC due to the fact that it uses less electricity.

eTH uses less?

No it doesn't, this statement is wrong. Mining Eth absolutely uses more power than ZEC with all clocks and voltages the same.

As for dual mining, I concur with the fact that solo mining Eth is more profitable. You actually lose money mining SIA or DCR as the extra electricity cost is more than what you mine.

@Walrusbonzo - yes i agreee with you, i use around 10-15% less power mining ZEC than ETH, it was lower but the newest version of claymore raised power use by around 5% across the board.  But even with the higer power use Eth only seems to be alot more profitable than ZEC now

Yes, the newer version of Claymore does use about 5% more power, but also gives around 5% more sols, so it's about even in that regard.

The thing is, when keeping settings the same you can switch from ETH to ZEC and notice about a 10% power drop with no other effort as has already been mentioned, but if you make a custom ZEC WattTool profile you can drop another 10% off this as ZEC will allow you to drop the wattage more than ETH will without crashing. So it is a bit more work, but I modified my launch batch files to run WattTool with GPU initialization files customized to ZEC for lower power and another customized for ETH.

Yeah i did notice you can run lower wattage offsets with ZEC, can you share your batch file ?  I already have a watttool profile init for eth , but you cant run this until the mining starts or the machine will crash due to the default wattage already being low, i.e you need to run the watttool set batch file 2-3 mins after the miner has starterd.

[yun9999]

yun9999, you're right, a little bit of a generalisation on my part. I have about the cheapest electricity tariff on offer in the UK and it's still more than double yours. And 7 of my 16 cards are 290x.

That's why I solo mine Eth

@yun9999 lol 5 cents per kwh is probbaly cheaper or on par with some US mining farms get.  I can tell you 90% of miners wheo are not farm owers are paying at least double
your rate which makes dual mining a losing prop

Hence why I said it's on a case by case basis and we shouldn't make a general blanket statement that it's not worth it.  It may or may not depending on your electric rates, heating / cooling need, GPU and ROM.  Even at 10 cents / kw, it's still profitable with my example.  Rather than say it's not worth it, we should provide examples where it is and where it isnt.   I stop dual mining with my 290 and 390 at these low Sia rates as it's not just the power cost but it also very taxing on the GPU with the very high heat.   That's another factor to consider where the extra stress on the GPU, SATA cables, PSU, etc can make it a losing proposition that people may not be aware of.  When Sia was paying double or triple the power cost, itw as worth the risk.   For the RX470, dual mining still run very cool and it doesn't even break a sweat.  

[Swimmer63]

The best pool for zcash? I am already with flypool.

Maybe try https://zec.suprnova.cc - best support, ocminer is also in slack

I don't like suprnova pools since their site is buggy and the hashrate is 20% less than other pools. Similarly, nanopool is giving 15% less not only in ZEC but in ETH and ETC compared to the best pools. Currently I am using flypool and for now I get the best results both in local hashrate and in their statistics. May be 15-20% better at least for the past 24 hours. I will test coinmine if the hashrate drops. I wish dwarfpool had zec, there the ETH  hashrate  is nearly the same as my local hashrate...

Been using nanopool for a couple days.  It's crashed once, but other than that very steady and a better dashboard.

[frode88]

V2.0 killed one of my rigs:S I think CPU dead and 2 gpu dead:( sad sad day!

[simhash]

V2.0 killed one of my rigs:S I think CPU dead and 2 gpu dead:( sad sad day!

Report a bug.

On a serious note, it was likely your PSU crapping out taking GPUs and CPU with it.

[Prelektro]

ETA for new miner ? 2.0 works fine with my r9 290, got around 10% hashrate increase but crashes my pc with r9 280x.