What does a President Trump mean for Bitcoin?

[deisik]

Trump supports the American worker:

An investigation by USA Today has found that more than 3,500 lawsuits have been filed against Donald Trump and his business entities over the past 30 years. According to the paper, hundreds of former employees and contractors have accused Trump and his businesses of failing to pay them for their work. Victims have included a dishwasher in Florida, a glass company in New Jersey, a carpet company, a plumber, 48 waiters, dozens of bartenders at his resorts and clubs, and even several law firms that once represented him in these labor lawsuits. According to U.S. Department of Labor data, Trump’s companies have also been cited for 24 violations of the Fair Labor Standards Act since 2005 for failing to pay overtime or minimum wage

I have just one question, why is he not in jail already?

Other than that, it strongly reminds me the tragic history of Michael Jackson who was accused in child sexual abuse many times by those who were just wanting his money, not justice (provided there was any case for it). Obviously, Trump is not Jackson, and he can't be bullied in this way. When someone becomes a celebrity (or a president of the US), there are always a lot of women claiming that they had a baby with that person or that they were raped by him and similar things. I don't say that Donald is an angel, and some of these stories might in fact be true after all, but why everyone and his grandma started talking about them only now?

[QuestionAuthority]

Trump supports the American worker:

An investigation by USA Today has found that more than 3,500 lawsuits have been filed against Donald Trump and his business entities over the past 30 years. According to the paper, hundreds of former employees and contractors have accused Trump and his businesses of failing to pay them for their work. Victims have included a dishwasher in Florida, a glass company in New Jersey, a carpet company, a plumber, 48 waiters, dozens of bartenders at his resorts and clubs, and even several law firms that once represented him in these labor lawsuits. According to U.S. Department of Labor data, Trump’s companies have also been cited for 24 violations of the Fair Labor Standards Act since 2005 for failing to pay overtime or minimum wage

I have just one question, why is he not in jail already?

Other than that, it strongly reminds me the tragic history of Michael Jackson who was accused in child sexual abuse many times by those who were just wanting his money, not justice (provided there was any case for it). Obviously, Trump is not Jackson, and he can't be bullied in this way. When someone becomes a celebrity (or a president of the US), there are always a lot of women claiming that they had a baby with that person or that they were raped by him and similar things. I don't say that Donald is an angel, and some of these stories might in fact be true after all, but why everyone and his grandma started talking about them only now?

You're comparing apples and oranges. Civil and criminal cases are handled differently. Michael Jackson was a sick, twisted pervert who's mind was destroyed by his ruthless, money grubbing father - criminal case. Donald Trump was the executive in charge of businesses that brutalized other businesses and his companies employees - civil case. In criminal cases the individual is held ultimately responsible because they performed the action in question but they can sometimes get out of incarceration with a civil settlement. In purely civil business cases the company is held responsible and on rare occasions the executive is punished but the punishment is seldom incarceration, it's usually monetary. In both civil and criminal cases protracted appeals and continued litigation can "wear down" the opponent and cost them more money fighting than they stand to gain from the continued battle.

Welcome to the worst failure of the American legal system - the system itself.

[KenR]

I have just one question, why is he not in jail already?

Because many serial killers and criminals are roaming free on the American streets.Hard to have their President behind the bars.

Other than that, it strongly reminds me the tragic history of Michael Jackson who was accused in child sexual abuse many times by those who were just wanting his money, not justice (provided there was any case for it). Obviously, Trump is not Jackson, and he can't be bullied in this way

Half knowledge is always dangerous.I would argue over the topic but it will derail the cause this thread was made for.In short,I hate trump and he wouldn't do any good for bitcoin or the humanity.

[deisik]

ou're comparing apples and oranges. Civil and criminal cases are handled differently. Michael Jackson was a sick, twisted pervert who's mind was destroyed by his ruthless, money grubbing father - criminal case. Donald Trump was the executive in charge of businesses that brutalized other businesses and his companies employees - civil case. In criminal cases the individual is held ultimately responsible because they performed the action in question but they can sometimes get out of incarceration with a civil settlement. In purely civil business cases the company is held responsible and on rare occasions the executive is punished but the punishment is seldom incarceration, it's usually monetary. In both civil and criminal cases protracted appeals and continued litigation can "wear down" the opponent and cost them more money fighting than they stand to gain from the continued battle.

Welcome to the worst failure of the American legal system - the system itself.

In other words, it was actually a wise business approach, right?

I mean destroying the businesses of his competitors, through courts or otherwise. Somehow, I'm not surprised, and this only further confirms my inclination to think that Donald is a ruthless shark of capitalism, unlike socialist Obama. What do you think would be better for America overall? Regarding criminal vs civil cases, aren't tax evasion should be considered as a civil case too? But more than enough famous people from Al Capone to Wesley Snipes got behind the bars for tax evasion

Half knowledge is always dangerous.I would argue over the topic but it will derail the cause this thread was made for.In short,I hate trump and he wouldn't do any good for bitcoin or the humanity

If you refer to MJ, then let's leave him alone (let him rest in peace). If you mean Trump, then knowing him better might well help understand his possible actions toward Bitcoin in the future. What this topic is basically about

[QuestionAuthority]

ou're comparing apples and oranges. Civil and criminal cases are handled differently. Michael Jackson was a sick, twisted pervert who's mind was destroyed by his ruthless, money grubbing father - criminal case. Donald Trump was the executive in charge of businesses that brutalized other businesses and his companies employees - civil case. In criminal cases the individual is held ultimately responsible because they performed the action in question but they can sometimes get out of incarceration with a civil settlement. In purely civil business cases the company is held responsible and on rare occasions the executive is punished but the punishment is seldom incarceration, it's usually monetary. In both civil and criminal cases protracted appeals and continued litigation can "wear down" the opponent and cost them more money fighting than they stand to gain from the continued battle.

Welcome to the worst failure of the American legal system - the system itself.

In other words, it was actually a wise business approach, right?

I mean destroying the businesses of his competitors. Somehow, I'm not surprised, and this only further confirms my inclination to think that Donald is a ruthless shark of capitalism unlike socialist Obama. What do you think would be better for America overall? Regarding criminal vs civil cases, aren't tax evasion should be considered a civil case too? But more than enough famous people from Al Capone to Wesley Snipes got behind the bars for tax evasion

Half knowledge is always dangerous.I would argue over the topic but it will derail the cause this thread was made for.In short,I hate trump and he wouldn't do any good for bitcoin or the humanity

If you refer to MJ, then let's leave him alone (let him rest in peace). If you mean Trump, then knowing him better might well help understand his possible actions toward Bitcoin in the future. What this topic is basically about

I've met many Americans and must say they usually appear as honest hardworking people with decent values. I've met dozens of politicians and even worked for one as a college intern. Politicians are ruthless, self serving monsters that will do anything to ensure their own survival.

What would be better for America? Trump would be horrible for the American people because they are a minor annoyance in his path to personal success. Trump is perfect for American politics because he is no worse than all of the other scumbags on capital hill and will fit right in.

You're getting closer but not quite there. Tax evasion is always a criminal case. Tax evasion by an individual is the criminal act of breaking the law by an individual and usually results in jail time. Tax evasion by a company is a criminal act and can lead to the imprisionment of the company executive responsible but may be settled with fines and penalties.

Three crimes could be charged to a citizen or business evading taxes. Tax evasion is a broad category that includes any cheating on taxes owed to the government. This is a felony and carries up to a five-year prison sentence and/or fines up to $250,000 ($500,000 for corporations). Filing a false return occurs when a taxpayer has passed false or misleading information on the tax return as fact. This is also a felony and can carry a punishment of up to a three-year prison sentence and/or up to $250,000 in fines ($500,000 for corporations). Not filing a return at all is the least serious of the three, carrying a maximum of one year in prison and/or fines totaling up to $100,000 ($200,000 for corporations). In any case, you will be required to pay any and all taxes owed as well as all legal fees.

[KenR]

If you refer to MJ, then let's leave him alone (let him rest in peace). If you mean Trump, then knowing him better might well help understand his possible actions toward Bitcoin in the future. What this topic is basically about

How can a person be good with the technology or the futuristic approach if he lacks tendencies to solve the current scenarios ? How come wiping up half the tribe because they aren't good enough solves anything ? You will really consider such person's opinions towards a crucial topic like bitcoin ? People don't even take him seriously anymore,forget about the tech work accepting his views on the topic.

[deisik]

In other words, it was actually a wise business approach, right?

I mean destroying the businesses of his competitors. Somehow, I'm not surprised, and this only further confirms my inclination to think that Donald is a ruthless shark of capitalism unlike socialist Obama. What do you think would be better for America overall? Regarding criminal vs civil cases, aren't tax evasion should be considered a civil case too? But more than enough famous people from Al Capone to Wesley Snipes got behind the bars for tax evasion

Half knowledge is always dangerous.I would argue over the topic but it will derail the cause this thread was made for.In short,I hate trump and he wouldn't do any good for bitcoin or the humanity

If you refer to MJ, then let's leave him alone (let him rest in peace). If you mean Trump, then knowing him better might well help understand his possible actions toward Bitcoin in the future. What this topic is basically about

I've met many Americans and must say they usually appear as honest hardworking people with decent values. I've met dozens of politicians and even worked for one as a college intern. Politicians are ruthless, self serving monsters that will do anything to ensure their own survival.

What would be better for America? Trump would be horrible for the American people because they are a minor annoyance in his path to personal success. Trump is perfect for American politics because he is no worse than all of the other scumbags on capital hill and will fit right in

But another poster has been recently claiming here that Trump is a downright moron

Which is absolutely not qualified for the task of being the US president. What you are saying is in direct opposition to that claim. In fact, you both seem to dislike Donald as much, but you say diametrically opposite things. As I can see, you feel that Trump is in the same boat with any of those up the Capitol Hill and "fits right in". I basically agree with your point, but Trump has opposed himself to at least some part of the establishment, the part which ruled the Hill before him, and he has to fight them now. It looks like he (or they, or they all) burned all the bridges behind them. And to successfully fight them, he should have support somewhere, and that could be "we, the American people", so he might in fact have been quite honest in his words when he said that the power is now in the hands of the people. It was a top-notch demagoguery, of course (he must be believing in it himself), but deep down, it may still be true despite all this populist rhetoric

[QuestionAuthority]

In other words, it was actually a wise business approach, right?

I mean destroying the businesses of his competitors. Somehow, I'm not surprised, and this only further confirms my inclination to think that Donald is a ruthless shark of capitalism unlike socialist Obama. What do you think would be better for America overall? Regarding criminal vs civil cases, aren't tax evasion should be considered a civil case too? But more than enough famous people from Al Capone to Wesley Snipes got behind the bars for tax evasion

Half knowledge is always dangerous.I would argue over the topic but it will derail the cause this thread was made for.In short,I hate trump and he wouldn't do any good for bitcoin or the humanity

If you refer to MJ, then let's leave him alone (let him rest in peace). If you mean Trump, then knowing him better might well help understand his possible actions toward Bitcoin in the future. What this topic is basically about

I've met many Americans and must say they usually appear as honest hardworking people with decent values. I've met dozens of politicians and even worked for one as a college intern. Politicians are ruthless, self serving monsters that will do anything to ensure their own survival.

What would be better for America? Trump would be horrible for the American people because they are a minor annoyance in his path to personal success. Trump is perfect for American politics because he is no worse than all of the other scumbags on capital hill and will fit right in

But another poster has been recently claiming here that Trump is a downright moron

Which is absolutely not qualified for the task of being the US president. What you are saying is in direct opposition to that claim. In fact, you both seem to dislike Donald as much, but you say diametrically opposite things. As I can see, you feel that Trump is in the same boat with any of those up the Capitol Hill and "fits right in". I basically agree with your point, but Trump has opposed himself to at least some part of the establishment, the part which ruled the Hill, and he has to fight them now. It looks like he (or they, or they all) burned all the bridges. And to successfully fight them, he should have support somewhere, and that could be "we, the American people", so he might in fact have been quite honest in his words when he said that the power is now in the hands of the people. It was a top-notch demagoguery, of course (he must be believing in it himself), but deep down, it may still be true despite all this populist rhetoric

The difference I see between someone that believes Trump is a moron is they are listening to what he says. Someone that believes Trump will be another crooked politician and bad for the country is looking at what he's done in the past.

Past actions are the easiest way to determine the character of an individual. Trump is clearly a sexist, inexperienced, bigoted monster of a criminal individual, that clearly does not care about the welfare of the working class (or his employees) or the rights of what he calls "poor people".  How does that differ from all of the other candidates? I'm not sure that he is very different at all from career politicians with the exception of his lack of political experience.

PACs corrupt politicians at a staggering rate. Politicians feel they are above the law (look up Bill Clinton frequent flyer on pedophile plane). Politicians are power hungry warmongers (look up Clinton Benghazi or Obama drone strikes). Politicians are sexist woman abusers (look up congressmen caught with prostitutes and Monica Lewinsky). Congressmen make deals that insert bad legislation and harmful legislation as riders on bills to appease their donors. There are so many evils performed in Washington they are too numerous to list.

Is Trump worse than a career politician? I don't see how he could be worse if he tried. Does that mean I want him as president? No.

Americas only saving grace will be Trumps propensity to speak before he thinks. He has alienated so many career politicians in Washington that he will sit for four years and get nothing done. That's a good thing.

[kiklo]

Trump supports the American worker:

An investigation by USA Today has found that more than 3,500 lawsuits have been filed against Donald Trump and his business entities over the past 30 years. According to the paper, hundreds of former employees and contractors have accused Trump and his businesses of failing to pay them for their work. Victims have included a dishwasher in Florida, a glass company in New Jersey, a carpet company, a plumber, 48 waiters, dozens of bartenders at his resorts and clubs, and even several law firms that once represented him in these labor lawsuits. According to U.S. Department of Labor data, Trump’s companies have also been cited for 24 violations of the Fair Labor Standards Act since 2005 for failing to pay overtime or minimum wage

I have just one question, why is he not in jail already?

Other than that, it strongly reminds me the tragic history of Michael Jackson who was accused in child sexual abuse many times by those who were just wanting his money, not justice (provided there was any case for it). Obviously, Trump is not Jackson, and he can't be bullied in this way. When someone becomes a celebrity (or a president of the US), there are always a lot of women claiming that they had a baby with that person or that they were raped by him and similar things. I don't say that Donald is an angel, and some of these stories might in fact be true after all, but why everyone and his grandma started talking about them only now?

You're comparing apples and oranges. Civil and criminal cases are handled differently. Michael Jackson was a sick, twisted pervert who's mind was destroyed by his ruthless, money grubbing father - criminal case. Donald Trump was the executive in charge of businesses that brutalized other businesses and his companies employees - civil case. In criminal cases the individual is held ultimately responsible because they performed the action in question but they can sometimes get out of incarceration with a civil settlement. In purely civil business cases the company is held responsible and on rare occasions the executive is punished but the punishment is seldom incarceration, it's usually monetary. In both civil and criminal cases protracted appeals and continued litigation can "wear down" the opponent and cost them more money fighting than they stand to gain from the continued battle.

Welcome to the worst failure of the American legal system - the system itself.

Funny,

You had no issue with Obama ties with the Chicago Mob.
https://nalert.blogspot.com/2008/01/political-corruption-behind-barack_06.html
or
The Clintons selling US Trade secrets to China for Campaign contributions.
Or the Fact that Bill Clinton was a serial Rapist.

You have a very selective set of morals there.

 

[QuestionAuthority]

Trump supports the American worker:

An investigation by USA Today has found that more than 3,500 lawsuits have been filed against Donald Trump and his business entities over the past 30 years. According to the paper, hundreds of former employees and contractors have accused Trump and his businesses of failing to pay them for their work. Victims have included a dishwasher in Florida, a glass company in New Jersey, a carpet company, a plumber, 48 waiters, dozens of bartenders at his resorts and clubs, and even several law firms that once represented him in these labor lawsuits. According to U.S. Department of Labor data, Trump’s companies have also been cited for 24 violations of the Fair Labor Standards Act since 2005 for failing to pay overtime or minimum wage

I have just one question, why is he not in jail already?

Other than that, it strongly reminds me the tragic history of Michael Jackson who was accused in child sexual abuse many times by those who were just wanting his money, not justice (provided there was any case for it). Obviously, Trump is not Jackson, and he can't be bullied in this way. When someone becomes a celebrity (or a president of the US), there are always a lot of women claiming that they had a baby with that person or that they were raped by him and similar things. I don't say that Donald is an angel, and some of these stories might in fact be true after all, but why everyone and his grandma started talking about them only now?

You're comparing apples and oranges. Civil and criminal cases are handled differently. Michael Jackson was a sick, twisted pervert who's mind was destroyed by his ruthless, money grubbing father - criminal case. Donald Trump was the executive in charge of businesses that brutalized other businesses and his companies employees - civil case. In criminal cases the individual is held ultimately responsible because they performed the action in question but they can sometimes get out of incarceration with a civil settlement. In purely civil business cases the company is held responsible and on rare occasions the executive is punished but the punishment is seldom incarceration, it's usually monetary. In both civil and criminal cases protracted appeals and continued litigation can "wear down" the opponent and cost them more money fighting than they stand to gain from the continued battle.

Welcome to the worst failure of the American legal system - the system itself.

Funny,

You had no issue with Obama ties with the Chicago Mob.
https://nalert.blogspot.com/2008/01/political-corruption-behind-barack_06.html
or
The Clintons selling US Trade secrets to China for Campaign contributions.
Or the Fact that Bill Clinton was a serial Rapist.

You have a very selective set of morals there.

 

 I have a problem with all politicians.

[deisik]

But another poster has been recently claiming here that Trump is a downright moron

Which is absolutely not qualified for the task of being the US president. What you are saying is in direct opposition to that claim. In fact, you both seem to dislike Donald as much, but you say diametrically opposite things. As I can see, you feel that Trump is in the same boat with any of those up the Capitol Hill and "fits right in". I basically agree with your point, but Trump has opposed himself to at least some part of the establishment, the part which ruled the Hill, and he has to fight them now. It looks like he (or they, or they all) burned all the bridges. And to successfully fight them, he should have support somewhere, and that could be "we, the American people", so he might in fact have been quite honest in his words when he said that the power is now in the hands of the people. It was a top-notch demagoguery, of course (he must be believing in it himself), but deep down, it may still be true despite all this populist rhetoric

The difference I see between someone that believes Trump is a moron is they are listening to what he says. Someone that believes Trump will be another crooked politician and bad for the country is looking at what he's done in the past.

Past actions are the easiest way to determine the character of an individual. Trump is clearly a sexist, inexperienced, bigoted monster of a criminal individual, that clearly does not care about the welfare of the working class (or his employees) or the rights of what he calls "poor people".  How does that differ from all of the other candidates? I'm not sure that he is very different at all from career politicians with the exception of his lack of political experience.

PACs corrupt politicians at a staggering rate. Politicians feel they are above the law (look up Bill Clinton frequent flyer on pedophile plane). Politicians are power hungry warmongers (look up Clinton Benghazi or Obama drone strikes). Politicians are sexist woman abusers (look up congressmen caught with prostitutes and Monica Lewinsky). Congressmen make deals that insert bad legislation and harmful legislation as riders on bills to appease their donors. There are so many evils performed in Washington they are too numerous to list.

Is Trump worse than a career politician? I don't see how he could be worse if he tried. Does that mean I want him as president? No.

Americas only saving grace will be Trumps propensity to speak before he thinks. He has alienated so many career politicians in Washington that he will sit for four years and get nothing done. That's a good thing.

But this is exactly what I'm talking about

Are these so many career politicians in Washington any better than Trump? Obviously, not, as you yourself seem to think. They are as crooked as any other politicians out there. In fact, they might be even more crooked or by far more crooked since "power corrupts while absolute power corrupts absolutely" (by Baron Acton). Needless to say that those in Washington have sort of absolute power. Trump is set to fight them all. And if he kicks them out (or down, I don't care), could we thus claim that there will be less corruption overall even if he himself is as corrupted?



A new broom sweeps clean

[aso118]

Trump supports the American worker:

An investigation by USA Today has found that more than 3,500 lawsuits have been filed against Donald Trump and his business entities over the past 30 years. According to the paper, hundreds of former employees and contractors have accused Trump and his businesses of failing to pay them for their work. Victims have included a dishwasher in Florida, a glass company in New Jersey, a carpet company, a plumber, 48 waiters, dozens of bartenders at his resorts and clubs, and even several law firms that once represented him in these labor lawsuits. According to U.S. Department of Labor data, Trump’s companies have also been cited for 24 violations of the Fair Labor Standards Act since 2005 for failing to pay overtime or minimum wage

I have just one question, why is he not in jail already?

Other than that, it strongly reminds me the tragic history of Michael Jackson who was accused in child sexual abuse many times by those who were just wanting his money, not justice (provided there was any case for it). Obviously, Trump is not Jackson, and he can't be bullied in this way. When someone becomes a celebrity (or a president of the US), there are always a lot of women claiming that they had a baby with that person or that they were raped by him and similar things. I don't say that Donald is an angel, and some of these stories might in fact be true after all, but why everyone and his grandma started talking about them only now?

You're comparing apples and oranges. Civil and criminal cases are handled differently. Michael Jackson was a sick, twisted pervert who's mind was destroyed by his ruthless, money grubbing father - criminal case. Donald Trump was the executive in charge of businesses that brutalized other businesses and his companies employees - civil case. In criminal cases the individual is held ultimately responsible because they performed the action in question but they can sometimes get out of incarceration with a civil settlement. In purely civil business cases the company is held responsible and on rare occasions the executive is punished but the punishment is seldom incarceration, it's usually monetary. In both civil and criminal cases protracted appeals and continued litigation can "wear down" the opponent and cost them more money fighting than they stand to gain from the continued battle.

Welcome to the worst failure of the American legal system - the system itself.

Funny,

You had no issue with Obama ties with the Chicago Mob.
https://nalert.blogspot.com/2008/01/political-corruption-behind-barack_06.html
or
The Clintons selling US Trade secrets to China for Campaign contributions.
Or the Fact that Bill Clinton was a serial Rapist.

You have a very selective set of morals there.

 

All politicians are immoral. We just have to vote for the lesser evil.
Choose the candidate whose actions are likely to favour you.

[QuestionAuthority]

But another poster has been recently claiming here that Trump is a downright moron

Which is absolutely not qualified for the task of being the US president. What you are saying is in direct opposition to that claim. In fact, you both seem to dislike Donald as much, but you say diametrically opposite things. As I can see, you feel that Trump is in the same boat with any of those up the Capitol Hill and "fits right in". I basically agree with your point, but Trump has opposed himself to at least some part of the establishment, the part which ruled the Hill, and he has to fight them now. It looks like he (or they, or they all) burned all the bridges. And to successfully fight them, he should have support somewhere, and that could be "we, the American people", so he might in fact have been quite honest in his words when he said that the power is now in the hands of the people. It was a top-notch demagoguery, of course (he must be believing in it himself), but deep down, it may still be true despite all this populist rhetoric

The difference I see between someone that believes Trump is a moron is they are listening to what he says. Someone that believes Trump will be another crooked politician and bad for the country is looking at what he's done in the past.

Past actions are the easiest way to determine the character of an individual. Trump is clearly a sexist, inexperienced, bigoted monster of a criminal individual, that clearly does not care about the welfare of the working class (or his employees) or the rights of what he calls "poor people".  How does that differ from all of the other candidates? I'm not sure that he is very different at all from career politicians with the exception of his lack of political experience.

PACs corrupt politicians at a staggering rate. Politicians feel they are above the law (look up Bill Clinton frequent flyer on pedophile plane). Politicians are power hungry warmongers (look up Clinton Benghazi or Obama drone strikes). Politicians are sexist woman abusers (look up congressmen caught with prostitutes and Monica Lewinsky). Congressmen make deals that insert bad legislation and harmful legislation as riders on bills to appease their donors. There are so many evils performed in Washington they are too numerous to list.

Is Trump worse than a career politician? I don't see how he could be worse if he tried. Does that mean I want him as president? No.

Americas only saving grace will be Trumps propensity to speak before he thinks. He has alienated so many career politicians in Washington that he will sit for four years and get nothing done. That's a good thing.

But this is exactly what I'm talking about

Are these so many career politicians in Washington any better than Trump? Obviously, not, as you yourself seem to think. They are as crooked as any other politicians out there. In fact, they might be even more crooked or by far more crooked since "power corrupts while absolute power corrupts absolutely" (by Baron Acton). Needless to say that those in Washington have sort of absolute power. Trump is set to fight them all. And if he kicks them out (or down, I don't care), could we thus claim that there will be less corruption overall even if he himself is as corrupted?

*snip img*

A new broom sweeps clean

Yes, that's what I mean too, except I think he's going to cost the American people a large chunk of money. He signed an executive order to stop entrants from countries that aren't on his friends (business associates) list. That order will be contested in court and fail (and already has been partially overturned) while the battles cost taxpayers money and piss off countries that already want America destroyed. Maybe he doesn't know there are other ways to enter the country that are all but impossible to detect or maybe he's too inexperienced to realize that won't work. A career politician wouldn't bother.

I don't think his corruption or self serving motivations will be allowed to take hold because he is an outsider. The republican congress is never going to rubber stamp the things he wants because they do want their jobs in four years. He'll never get a democrat to vote for anything he wants that's against their constituents wishes because they want their jobs in four years and know democrats will be in control again at the midterm elections (in two years).

We've been talking so far about the radical stuff but the presidency is a job. It's a boring, tedious, hair pulling nightmare of a job that turns a mans hair gray after two years in office. A career politician is better suited to perform the tedious job of being POTUS. The president works on the national budget (very different from company budgets), he's a daily crisis manager, he acts as a symbol and administrator, he is responsible for smooth negotiations with other nations (which Trump has already failed miserably at), appoints ambassadors, serves as the Commander in Chief of the armed forces, negotiates treaties and must review and sign all new legislation. President is a job that Donald Trump is simply unqualified to perform. Good intentions won't change that.

That's the joke of asking what Trump will do for Bitcoin. He's going to remain so overwhelmed that something as inconsequential as bitcoin will never even cross his mind. Someone better take responsibility for spoon feeding him or he may forget to eat everyday.

I will stand amazed if Trump isn't either assassinated or impeached within the next four years. He pissed off the CIA for christs sake. I wonder if he knows what the CIA does for a living? LOL

[deisik]

But this is exactly what I'm talking about

Are these so many career politicians in Washington any better than Trump? Obviously, not, as you yourself seem to think. They are as crooked as any other politicians out there. In fact, they might be even more crooked or by far more crooked since "power corrupts while absolute power corrupts absolutely" (by Baron Acton). Needless to say that those in Washington have sort of absolute power. Trump is set to fight them all. And if he kicks them out (or down, I don't care), could we thus claim that there will be less corruption overall even if he himself is as corrupted?

*snip img*

A new broom sweeps clean

Yes, that's what I mean too, except I think he's going to cost the American people a large chunk of money. He signed an executive order to stop entrants from countries that aren't on his friends (business associates) list. That order will be contested in court and fail (and already has been partially overturned) while the battles cost taxpayers money and piss off countries that already want America destroyed. Maybe he doesn't know there are other ways to enter the country that are all but impossible to detect or maybe he's too inexperienced to realize that won't work. A career politician wouldn't bother.

I don't think his corruption or self serving motivations will be allowed to take hold because he is an outsider. The republican congress is never going to rubber stamp the things he wants because they do want their jobs in four years. He'll never get a democrat to vote for anything he wants that's against their constituents wishes because they want their jobs in four years and know democrats will be in control again at the midterm elections (in two years).

We've been talking so far about the radical stuff but the presidency is a job. It's a boring, tedious, hair pulling nightmare of a job that turns a mans hair gray after two years in office. A career politician is better suited to perform the tedious job of being POTUS. The president works on the national budget (very different from company budgets), he's a daily crisis manager, he acts as a symbol and administrator, he is responsible for smooth negotiations with other nations (which Trump has already failed miserably at), appoints ambassadors, serves as the Commander in Chief of the armed forces, negotiates treaties and must review and sign all new legislation. President is a job that Donald Trump is simply unqualified to perform. Good intentions won't change that.

That's the joke of asking what Trump will do for Bitcoin. He's going to remain so overwhelmed that something as inconsequential as bitcoin will never even cross his mind. Someone better take responsibility for spoon feeding him or he may forget to eat everyday.

I will stand amazed if Trump isn't either assassinated or impeached within the next four years. He pissed off the CIA for christs sake. I wonder if he knows what the CIA does for a living? LOL

John Kennedy was allegedly assassinated by the CIA under the order of Lyndon Johnson, the vice-president of the US then

But I wouldn't completely write off Donald yet. If he has Putin behind his back, the days of his opponents are likely numbered already. Putin was basically nobody when he had come to power in 1999. Russian oligarchs openly despised him. But it was a matter of few years when they all became totally loyal to him while those who didn't got in jail (see the history of Khodorkovsky). That's likely the reason of the hysterics we see and hear in Washington right now. They understand that Putin through Trump will squelch them right into dirt and they got not a single chance



Even if there's not any Putin behind Trump altogether, the very thought of that makes those "career politicians" tremble with fear and agony

[QuestionAuthority]

One thing is certain, it's going to be an interesting 4 years.

[Clement Kaliyar]

John Kennedy was allegedly assassinated by the CIA under the order of Lyndon Johnson, the vice-president of the US then

But I wouldn't completely write off Donald yet. If he has Putin behind his back, the days of his opponents are likely numbered already. Putin was basically nobody when he had come to power in 1999. Russian oligarchs openly despised him. But it was a matter of few years when they all became totally loyal to him while those who didn't got in jail (see the history of Khodorkovsky). That's likely the reason of the hysterics we see and hear in Washington right now. They understand that Putin through Trump will squelch them right into dirt and they got not a single chance
Even if there's not any Putin behind Trump altogether, the very thought of that makes those "career politicians" tremble with fear and horror

The US media is complete bullshit and the US politics is a complete joke for that matter.People elected Trump as president and now they are protesting him,what for,you should have done that when you were in the polling booth.Putin is a strong leader and that does not mean he is a villan as portraited by the media .It all depends upon the policy Trump is going to take and if there is any uncertainty that might make some changes to the price of bitcoin .

[deisik]

John Kennedy was allegedly assassinated by the CIA under the order of Lyndon Johnson, the vice-president of the US then

But I wouldn't completely write off Donald yet. If he has Putin behind his back, the days of his opponents are likely numbered already. Putin was basically nobody when he had come to power in 1999. Russian oligarchs openly despised him. But it was a matter of few years when they all became totally loyal to him while those who didn't got in jail (see the history of Khodorkovsky). That's likely the reason of the hysterics we see and hear in Washington right now. They understand that Putin through Trump will squelch them right into dirt and they got not a single chance
Even if there's not any Putin behind Trump altogether, the very thought of that makes those "career politicians" tremble with fear and horror

The US media is complete bullshit and the US politics is a complete joke for that matter.People elected Trump as president and now they are protesting him,what for,you should have done that when you were in the polling booth.Putin is a strong leader and that does not mean he is a villan as portraited by the media .It all depends upon the policy Trump is going to take and if there is any uncertainty that might make some changes to the price of bitcoin

The irony is that Hillary got more votes than Trump

So it is in fact the minority that chose Trump as the president, therefore it shouldn't surprise you that people are protesting. It is also clear that "interesting years" ahead will matter much for Bitcoin as well. Even if Trump doesn't know about Bitcoin anything at all, that doesn't mean that his economic policies won't affect it. Right now a weaker dollar would lead to a stronger Bitcoin, even if it would be a knee-jerk reaction at first. But if Trump continues with delivering on his promises (and doesn't get shot down in the process), we might at last see the Bitcoin price deep into 4 digits



I guess the American citizens among us should make a choice, i.e. what they like most, Bitcoin or Dollar?

[CryptoVzla]

So, what if  Trump bans Bitcoin in the USA? i.e. to avoid capital flight  or to "fight terorrism"

 Could the CIA or the FBI or NSA (i don't know)  track your tx id to your ip? is that possible?

What could be the american people response?

[QuestionAuthority]

Nostradamus Predictions 2017: Is Donald Trump The ‘Third Antichrist’

One quatrain referred to a “false trumpet” and the similarity to Trump’s own name is uncanny. The following lines also point to the change that Trump promised America

“The false trumpet concealing madness
will cause Byzantium to change its laws.
From Egypt there will go forth a man who wants
the edict withdrawn, changing money and standards.”

“The false message about the rigged election
to run through the city stopping the broken pact;
voices bought, chapel stained with blood,
the empire contracted to another one.”

“The great shameless, audacious bawler,
He will be elected governor of the army:
The boldness of his contention,
The bridge broken, the city faint from fear.”

Source: http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/nostradamus-predictions-2017-donald-trumps-tough-year/news-story/22833cb4b1ce7ede71d4d8c1764167c3

[Dudeperfect]

So, what if  Trump bans Bitcoin in the USA? i.e. to avoid capital flight  or to "fight terorrism"

 Could the CIA or the FBI or NSA (i don't know)  track your tx id to your ip? is that possible?

What could be the american people response?

It's very entertaining to believe that those three letter agencies are not tracking bitcoin users at this moment. I am damn sure there are many activities are taking place behind the curtain and we are unaware of it. Let's realise the fact that governments aren't much happy about bitcoin or cryptocurrencies because it is something that is grabbing control from the governments.