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January 21, 2017, 05:38:14 PM
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Trump said he would bring dollars and industries back to USA.

If he does so, the chinese will be affected and the yuan will fall, and most other currencies will fall too.

Then people will go Bitcoin to protect their wealth, and BTC price will rise

There already is a correlaction between the devaluation of the chinese money

Yes. Americans will still trust in the dollar, and with the Fed raising interest rates, will be happy to keep their savings in dollars. But people in other countries, especially autocracies like China, will be looking to get their money out, especially as they devalue.

Lol, like they have a choice xD
Let's get real, btc isn't gonna replace dollars...
Not now, not tomorrow. It just won't.

They have plenty of choice, it is not like bitcoin is banned in the US, and the Americans don't apply capital controls like the Chinese, Americans are free to take their money out of the country and put it into any currency they want.

But they just don't want to, they have confidence in their democracy and their system and their money.

It is people in authoritarian countries like China where people are scared and are spiriting their money out.

 
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January 21, 2017, 05:51:19 PM
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Trump said he would bring dollars and industries back to USA.

If he does so, the chinese will be affected and the yuan will fall, and most other currencies will fall too.

Then people will go Bitcoin to protect their wealth, and BTC price will rise

There already is a correlaction between the devaluation of the chinese money

Yes. Americans will still trust in the dollar, and with the Fed raising interest rates, will be happy to keep their savings in dollars. But people in other countries, especially autocracies like China, will be looking to get their money out, especially as they devalue.

Lol, like they have a choice xD
Let's get real, btc isn't gonna replace dollars...
Not now, not tomorrow. It just won't.

They have plenty of choice, it is not like bitcoin is banned in the US, and the Americans don't apply capital controls like the Chinese, Americans are free to take their money out of the country and put it into any currency they want.

But they just don't want to, they have confidence in their democracy and their system and their money

Are you speaking on their behalf or what?

Just in case, in 1934 (if I'm not mistaken), the American government (on Roosevelt's order) had been confiscating gold from their citizens under the threat of criminal prosecution of up to ten years in jail, and numerous people got actually prosecuted for illegal "hoarding of gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates within the continental United States". So the American citizens shouldn't get surprised if something like that might eventually happen to them again (e.g. an event like the Cyprus haircut). Let's see then what will become of the "confidence in their democracy and their system and their money"

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January 21, 2017, 05:59:41 PM
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I do see Trump make the bitcoin to go higher because I saw people on social media talking about how America would fall because of him and to think of that people want to go outside the country and somehow thinking of selling their property ASAP so they will find ways to exchange it and theres bitcoin to save them  Cheesy
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January 21, 2017, 06:04:45 PM
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Donald Trump isnt some stupid child to ban bitcoin cryptocurrency in one night.If he know about bitcoin he provably know that bitcoin is future cryptocurrency and he will invest in bitcoin and he will make bitcoin really popular when kaboom come.But He have billion of dollars so he will provably want to invest in bitcoin a million of dollars if he know for bitcoin crpyotocurrency maybe he will invest even billion if he is smart and then he will make that kaboom which everybody want but we must wait more time and time will tell us everything from Donald Trump head about things which he want to do to make a big changes in American continent.I am praying everyday for Donald Trump bitcoin kaboom.If he do that then many of us which have at least 1 bitcoin will be a rich person.
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January 21, 2017, 09:14:48 PM
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I do see Trump make the bitcoin to go higher because I saw people on social media talking about how America would fall because of him and to think of that people want to go outside the country and somehow thinking of selling their property ASAP so they will find ways to exchange it and theres bitcoin to save them  Cheesy

Nobody will abandon their home because Trump is president. Well maybe some illegal immigrant. All who say that are just mad that elections didnt turn how they wanted to. And guess what. If you want democracy, respect it, he is legally elected president.
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January 23, 2017, 10:11:32 PM
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United States is the most powerful country in the world, the President now is Donald Trump and what he want do will do. Maybe there is no issue for the president about bitcoin may he doesn't care for it. Even the bitcoin is illegal he let it to proceed to enter in his country. And maybe also he knows many of his people using a bitcoin and if he remove or banned bitcoin it affects their economy because what if his rich people hope only in bitcoin, the people  who is rich will became to poor and because of poority they cannot afford the luxury items. And that is Donald Trump mean about bitcoin for me.
I don't think Trump cares much about bitcoin, I don't remember ever been mentioned during the campaign, bitcoin is small right now compared to other challenges he has on the table.
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January 23, 2017, 10:26:52 PM
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What do you think, what will a President Trump mean for Bitcoin?

Trump  has promissed to print a lot of $$$ and put in into ifrastructure so many $$$ will hit market and cause inflation in BTC world too like in real world.
As fundametals Trump  don't care about bitcoin he want "make America great again" not bitcoin greater.

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January 23, 2017, 10:49:04 PM
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What do you think, what will a President Trump mean for Bitcoin?

Trump  has promissed to print a lot of $$$ and put in into ifrastructure so many $$$ will hit market and cause inflation in BTC world too like in real world.
As fundametals Trump  don't care about bitcoin he want "make America great again" not bitcoin greater.


If he just let people use it it's enough for me. I want bitcoin as it is now and that continues this way for a long time. I don't want governments, presidents taxing bitcoins or any other thing of this kind.
I don't know if Trump likes bitcoin, but it's being very helpful for the chineses, and chineses can become the new biggest world potency.

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January 23, 2017, 11:00:56 PM
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I think what I'm actually trying to imply in "pussy" terms is that Trump is a fucking clown

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Well, this seems to be mostly a conspiracy theory on your side

I'm not defending Trump, to make things clear right at the start. I'm just analyzing your theory. First, Trump is not an Idaho farmer, he is a New York construction tycoon after all, who was born and raised in Queens at that (a New York borough for those who don't know). So you can't possibly claim that he is a wealthy redneck from Idaho or any such place by any means. It seems that you draw this conclusion based on his look, i.e. from his red face as if it were weather-beaten. Second, Trump may look and behave like a clown, but to get better understanding of his inner self you may want to read his earlier interviews which he gave long before his presidential campaign. I refer mostly to his 1990 Playboy magazine interview. He doesn't look or speak like a clown in it

Magazines articles aren't captured live like recorded footage. They're easier to pay someone to fake. I didn't mean he was an Idaho farmer. I meant I wouldn't trust him to run the country any more than I would trust a wealthy farmer. Neither have the experience. Only a fool or a ringer would say the things he said during the election.

I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. I think he's a ringer for the Clintons but you're right maybe he's just a fool that can't control his own tongue

Some logic lacks in your reasoning

You say that he doesn't have the experience as a POTUS. But you can't possibly say that he lacks experience as a businessman. This basically means that in no case you can claim he is a fool either since "a fool and his money are soon parted". He is told to have gone for bankruptcy 4 times, but I guess he was just hiding his wealth from the IRS. Given he is not in jail (and as far as I know has never even been close to), we should decidedly admit that he is a smart guy after all, despite all his defiant rhetoric (few can mess with the IRS and not get under press eventually). So, can't he really control his own tongue as he appears to be?

Here's some logic:  If Trump is a dumbass, then those who support him are dumbasses too.  Trump is a dumbass.  Therefore, those who support him are dumbasses.  It's pretty much that simple!  

Trump doesn't have the American support.  He's not qualified to run the most powerful nation in the world and he certainly doesn't share the views of a majority of it's population....including a state that accounts for the 6th largest economy in the world which shares an antithetical ideology.  Any other republican who understands government would be fine....but, this guy doesn't have the qualifications to run the most powerful branch of government in the world....a branch of government that holds the keys to the nuclear codes requires more than a degree in business from some obscure college!  He has never served the public in any capacity....in fact, he's a draft dodger so he actively avoided service.

He's going to crash the economy to take advantage of some shorts....watch!  He did the same with the real estate markets when he turned a profit off of their collapse.
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January 23, 2017, 11:07:34 PM
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Trump  has promissed to print a lot of $$$ and put in into ifrastructure so many $$$ will hit market and cause inflation in BTC world too like in real world.
As fundametals Trump  don't care about bitcoin he want "make America great again" not bitcoin greater.

He's the very best that ever could have happened to us  Cheesy Grin

The tragedy is for the country, this mess done by a big kid will takes years to clean up.

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January 24, 2017, 12:38:41 AM
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As we all know that bitcoin has progressed a lot since it was released and here in 2017 we saw the price of bitcoin was 1000+ USD which is 5x of the price was in 2015.
So what do you think it will be in 2018.

Price is going to Tank, because BTC is going to get caught in the middle of a trade war between the US & China.

China will try to use their control over BTC to use against the USA as Leverage over areas that China wants to claim as territory in the South China Sea.

If you are a US Citizen and hold BTC expect the Chinese to block all transactions trying to force the US to comply with their wishes on territory disputes,
Trump will not blink and will not yield , no matter if China Blocks all BTC transactions.

Everyone better cash out to US $ if they want to protect their capital before this battle between the Titans begins, then it will be too late.  Tongue


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US $ is going up, and BTC is going down.
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January 24, 2017, 12:56:57 AM
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Trump said he would bring dollars and industries back to USA.

If he does so, the chinese will be affected and the yuan will fall, and most other currencies will fall too.

Then people will go Bitcoin to protect their wealth, and BTC price will rise

There already is a correlaction between the devaluation of the chinese money

Yes. Americans will still trust in the dollar, and with the Fed raising interest rates, will be happy to keep their savings in dollars. But people in other countries, especially autocracies like China, will be looking to get their money out, especially as they devalue.

Lol, like they have a choice xD
Let's get real, btc isn't gonna replace dollars...
Not now, not tomorrow. It just won't.


Also consider that if Trump continues to apply his lips to the ass of Putin. Does things like reverse the Obama sanctions, this could make BTC an attractive heade for Eastern Europe. Personally I think that Trump/Puting with make a new Glasnost  and our new Exxon CEO Sec of State and complete the 500 billion artic. deal. Putin, Exxon and probably Trump get much richer. Cooperation on Isis is a likely scenario. Or something involving Crimea or UKraine. These are just my opinions and I might be completely wrong. The Russian economy needs a injection of cash. Stock options and capital appreciation  could make a few more billionaires Trump bad for the US and the world and mgiht be a boon for BTC.

Who thinks that Trump cant wait to use the military somewhere in the world.

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January 24, 2017, 01:05:44 AM
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Trump said he would bring dollars and industries back to USA.

If he does so, the chinese will be affected and the yuan will fall, and most other currencies will fall too.

Then people will go Bitcoin to protect their wealth, and BTC price will rise

There already is a correlaction between the devaluation of the chinese money

Yes. Americans will still trust in the dollar, and with the Fed raising interest rates, will be happy to keep their savings in dollars. But people in other countries, especially autocracies like China, will be looking to get their money out, especially as they devalue.

Lol, like they have a choice xD
Let's get real, btc isn't gonna replace dollars...
Not now, not tomorrow. It just won't.


Also consider that if Trump continues to apply his lips to the ass of Putin. Does things like reverse the Obama sanctions, this could make BTC an attractive heade for Eastern Europe. Personally I think that Trump/Puting with make a new Glasnost  and our new Exxon CEO Sec of State and complete the 500 billion artic. deal. Putin, Exxon and probably Trump get much richer. Cooperation on Isis is a likely scenario. Or something involving Crimea or UKraine. These are just my opinions and I might be completely wrong. The Russian economy needs a injection of cash. Stock options and capital appreciation  could make a few more billionaires Trump bad for the US and the world and mgiht be a boon for BTC.

Who thinks that Trump cant wait to use the military somewhere in the world.

If I had to choose between Trump or Clinton for who would use the military first, I would choose Clinton. Trump would only start a military action if it was good for his business.

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January 24, 2017, 02:49:01 AM
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I doubt trump will bother much with bitcoin.  He's a good business man and not a dictator why would he ban bitcoin.  Even if Trump banned bitcoin on the US, the rest of the world will just carry on using it.  Grin
What about those rumors that he is a Putin's made man?
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January 24, 2017, 08:03:19 AM
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I doubt trump will bother much with bitcoin.  He's a good business man and not a dictator why would he ban bitcoin.  Even if Trump banned bitcoin on the US, the rest of the world will just carry on using it.  Grin
What about those rumors that he is a Putin's made man?

Democratic Propaganda to smear him during the campaign, nothing else.

Trump was a Multimillionaire since 1976, ~23 years before Putin came to Political Power in Dec 1999.     Wink

The only Man that can actually claim to have made Donald Trump is Fred Sr. Trump (His Father)  Cheesy

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Here's some logic:  If Trump is a dumbass, then those who support him are dumbasses too.  Trump is a dumbass.  Therefore, those who support him are dumbasses.  It's pretty much that simple! 

Trump doesn't have the American support.  He's not qualified to run the most powerful nation in the world and he certainly doesn't share the views of a majority of it's population....including a state that accounts for the 6th largest economy in the world which shares an antithetical ideology.  Any other republican who understands government would be fine....but, this guy doesn't have the qualifications to run the most powerful branch of government in the world....a branch of government that holds the keys to the nuclear codes requires more than a degree in business from some obscure college!  He has never served the public in any capacity....in fact, he's a draft dodger so he actively avoided service

It feels like you are more trying to convince yourself in what you say rather than me. Even if Trump is a dumbass, he is a damn good dumbass to convince half of the US to vote for him. Are half of the US dumbasses too? Personally, I would consider him as a genuine four-flusher and demagog as rare as one in a million. Are you going to challenge that point as well? In any case, for those of us who are living outside the US it will be a good show, and it certainly must go on!

Hillary would likely make a good show too, but the world might end up in ashes in the final part of it



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January 24, 2017, 05:42:49 PM
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Trump would only start a military action if it was good for his business.

And Hitlery would start a military invasion for no reason at all. That is the reason why I supported Trump during the POTUS elections in 2016. Had Hitlery won, then she might have started the third world war (according to Jill Stein). And one more thing... Trump doesn't have any investment in the defense sector. Most of his investment is in real estate.
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Here's some logic:  If Trump is a dumbass, then those who support him are dumbasses too.  Trump is a dumbass.  Therefore, those who support him are dumbasses.  It's pretty much that simple!  

Trump doesn't have the American support.  He's not qualified to run the most powerful nation in the world and he certainly doesn't share the views of a majority of it's population....including a state that accounts for the 6th largest economy in the world which shares an antithetical ideology.  Any other republican who understands government would be fine....but, this guy doesn't have the qualifications to run the most powerful branch of government in the world....a branch of government that holds the keys to the nuclear codes requires more than a degree in business from some obscure college!  He has never served the public in any capacity....in fact, he's a draft dodger so he actively avoided service

It feels like you are more trying to convince yourself in what you say rather than me. Even if Trump is a dumbass, he is a damn good dumbass to convince half of the US to vote for him. Are half of the US dumbasses too? Personally, I would consider him as a genuine four-flusher and demagog as rare as one in a million. Are you going to challenge that point as well? In any case, for those of us who are living outside the US it will be a good show, and it certainly must go on!

Hillary would likely make a good show too, but the world might end up in ashes in the final part of it



Since hell hath no fury like a woman scorned

1)  Half of the United States did not vote for Trump....that is an "alternative fact"....but those who did vote for him ARE dumbasses!
2)  Trumps policy of confiscating foreign oil as the spoils of war is more likely to start world conflict than not.
3)  Trumps move to defund and isolate the USA from NATO will affect more than just the USA....
4)  It may be a greater show than anticipated....the world has more to lose than the USA...."America first"....we have the bombs, the
     missile defense systems, the money and now a dumbass with his finger on the button!  Good luck!
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January 24, 2017, 06:27:17 PM
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Here's some logic:  If Trump is a dumbass, then those who support him are dumbasses too.  Trump is a dumbass.  Therefore, those who support him are dumbasses.  It's pretty much that simple! 

Trump doesn't have the American support.  He's not qualified to run the most powerful nation in the world and he certainly doesn't share the views of a majority of it's population....including a state that accounts for the 6th largest economy in the world which shares an antithetical ideology.  Any other republican who understands government would be fine....but, this guy doesn't have the qualifications to run the most powerful branch of government in the world....a branch of government that holds the keys to the nuclear codes requires more than a degree in business from some obscure college!  He has never served the public in any capacity....in fact, he's a draft dodger so he actively avoided service

It feels like you are more trying to convince yourself in what you say rather than me. Even if Trump is a dumbass, he is a damn good dumbass to convince half of the US to vote for him. Are half of the US dumbasses too? Personally, I would consider him as a genuine four-flusher and demagog as rare as one in a million. Are you going to challenge that point as well? In any case, for those of us who are living outside the US it will be a good show, and it certainly must go on!

Hillary would likely make a good show too, but the world might end up in ashes in the final part of it

1)  Half of the United States did not vote for Trump....that is an "alternative fact"....but those who did vote for him ARE dumbasses!
2)  Trumps policy of confiscating foreign oil as the spoils of war is more likely to start world conflict than not.
3)  Trumps move to defund and isolate the USA from NATO will affect more than just the USA....
4)  It may be a greater show than anticipated....the world has more to lose than the USA...."America first"....we have the bombs, the
     missile defense systems, the money and now a dumbass with his finger on the button!  Good luck!

Some 60 million people voted for Trump, so 60 million Americans are dumbasses, simple logic!

Trump is just speaking loudly what has been only whispered before but still widely known for millenia. In short, the winner takes it all. This has been even made into a song. Trump may really look like a dumbass or a clown (your pick), but such guys usually don't start wars. Why? Because he is a businessman to the marrow of his bones, and these people know the limits very well and are negotiable overall. That's why he is such a loud mouth in the first place

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