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May 27, 2013, 10:03:59 AM |
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I'm just frosty again. Probably june for batch 2, july for batch 3 but... no bfl still.
There will be no BFL for a long time. Still, there will be other players - many of them.
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May 27, 2013, 03:51:06 PM |
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batch 2# is not reach yet. How about batch 3#? waiting waiting waiting till ngzhang make enough BTC ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) They have said they do not mine with the units.
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I try to be respectful and informed.
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May 27, 2013, 04:36:17 PM |
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batch 2# is not reach yet. How about batch 3#? waiting waiting waiting till ngzhang make enough BTC ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) They have said they do not mine with the units. They do. As a B#2 customer I just received this email update - my first email ever since the original order confirmation:
Batch one have mostly finished shipping, aside from a small number of orders with incomplete/wrong address or phone numbers. We've been getting these orders back from our shipper and getting in touch with people to update their information, this is a fairly quick process. If you have not gotten your order, especially people in Germany or Iceland that uses special characters in their addresses. I highly suggest you open a ticket with our support indicating your order number, full address with phone numbers, so if there is a problem we can pull up new information quickly and let shipping proceed. This also applies to batch two customers, please make sure your phone number is correct, and there is no typo in the address. Speaking of batch two, we are unfortunately going to be late. This should not be too surprising as the delay from batch one will no doubt carry over. This delay also caused us to make drastic adjustments to our project timeline dealing with anything with a lead time like parts purchasing. We plan to start shipping majority of batch two orders starting on 15th of April. Not all the news is bad news however, originally around this period we are suppose to take this time to organize, make some changes and install a brand new SMT line in our facility. This upgrade will effectively double our production capacity, it enable us to put Avalon into the hands of our customer even faster. The new line is currently scheduled to come online during the last week of April. We expect batch two and three to ship much faster than batch one mainly there is no Chinese New Year and we have overcome the problems encountered in shipping batch one. On to batch three, we at Avalon did not even wish to sell another batch. If you recall, our original plan was to produce only one batch, sell chips to thwart the centralization of mining, but due to the lackluster performance of our competitors we are here today as the exact centralization we tried to decouple. In addition, this delay is eating into our timeline for this project's future goals and various other projects. To be frank: it was a simple decision of build a mining farm ourselves and mine for a month or so to get the funding for things like the SMT line and next generation development vs. raise the price and sell units trying to get the money earlier to counterbalance the delay we have had. So, we came up with some terms and left the choice to the community. More details on the F.A.Q. section of the Site. There will also be a follow up newsletter on chips for sale and the trade-in program.
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May 27, 2013, 04:41:09 PM |
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batch 2# is not reach yet. How about batch 3#? waiting waiting waiting till ngzhang make enough BTC ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) They have said they do not mine with the units. They do. As a B#2 customer I just received this email update - my first email ever since the original order confirmation:
Batch one have mostly finished shipping, aside from a small number of orders with incomplete/wrong address or phone numbers. We've been getting these orders back from our shipper and getting in touch with people to update their information, this is a fairly quick process. If you have not gotten your order, especially people in Germany or Iceland that uses special characters in their addresses. I highly suggest you open a ticket with our support indicating your order number, full address with phone numbers, so if there is a problem we can pull up new information quickly and let shipping proceed. This also applies to batch two customers, please make sure your phone number is correct, and there is no typo in the address. Speaking of batch two, we are unfortunately going to be late. This should not be too surprising as the delay from batch one will no doubt carry over. This delay also caused us to make drastic adjustments to our project timeline dealing with anything with a lead time like parts purchasing. We plan to start shipping majority of batch two orders starting on 15th of April. Not all the news is bad news however, originally around this period we are suppose to take this time to organize, make some changes and install a brand new SMT line in our facility. This upgrade will effectively double our production capacity, it enable us to put Avalon into the hands of our customer even faster. The new line is currently scheduled to come online during the last week of April. We expect batch two and three to ship much faster than batch one mainly there is no Chinese New Year and we have overcome the problems encountered in shipping batch one. On to batch three, we at Avalon did not even wish to sell another batch. If you recall, our original plan was to produce only one batch, sell chips to thwart the centralization of mining, but due to the lackluster performance of our competitors we are here today as the exact centralization we tried to decouple. In addition, this delay is eating into our timeline for this project's future goals and various other projects. To be frank: it was a simple decision of build a mining farm ourselves and mine for a month or so to get the funding for things like the SMT line and next generation development vs. raise the price and sell units trying to get the money earlier to counterbalance the delay we have had. So, we came up with some terms and left the choice to the community. More details on the F.A.Q. section of the Site. There will also be a follow up newsletter on chips for sale and the trade-in program.
You have misread that. You're not the first to think this either. Watch his speech from the bitcoin conference this year... Should clear things up on the matter. Hint: they chose the latter option... vs. raise the price and sell units trying to get the money earlier to counterbalance the delay we have had.
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rudrigorc2
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May 27, 2013, 04:44:50 PM Last edit: May 27, 2013, 05:05:08 PM by rudrigorc2 |
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You have misread that. You're not the first to think this either. Watch his speech from the bitcoin conference this year... Should clear things up on the matter. Hint: they chose the latter option... vs. raise the price and sell units trying to get the money earlier to counterbalance the delay we have had. are you sure? why would they perform tests outside laboratory and until it gets full of dust and full of damage?
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bennybong
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May 27, 2013, 05:04:59 PM |
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You have misread that. You're not the first to think this either. Watch his speech from the bitcoin conference this year... Should clear things up on the matter. Hint: they chose the latter option... vs. raise the price and sell units trying to get the money earlier to counterbalance the delay we have had. are you sure? why they would perform tests outside laboratory and until it gets full of dust and full of damage? edit: I dont care, it is still within the agreed terms: 30 days ROI for batch2. How is each batch’s unit price determined?
The price of each unit is the current mining difficulty which at the time of writing, just got readjusted to about 6,695,826. We take that number and multiply it by two ( predicting the network speed will double. ) and calculate the return in a thirty day window, which is about 75 bitcoins. See this site for more details. +20terahash and diff it went up almost 40% before he wrote this FAQ. who could have done that? See tesntnet. Also please remember - they have been awaiting their new SMT machine to build the remaining batch #2 & batch #3 machines. Until this is set up and working okay.... they don't have any machines to mine on! It's not like they're sitting on 600 Avalon machines all chugging away! They ship the machines as soon as they are ready IMO. Once tested I'm sure they just box them up ready for shipping, some people have said their units look like they have been used... Of course they have, Avalon need to test the units briefly!
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May 27, 2013, 05:07:46 PM |
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LOL.
BTW, a friend of mine that ordered the 18th received the tracking info.
Something is happening. Im not sure of what yet, but something is happening.
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May 27, 2013, 05:15:54 PM |
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LOL.
BTW, a friend of mine that ordered the 18th received the tracking info.
Something is happening. Im not sure of what yet, but something is happening.
ProfMac jumps up and down waving his arms until his wife laughs & worries.
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I try to be respectful and informed.
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bennybong
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May 27, 2013, 05:16:05 PM |
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LOL.
BTW, a friend of mine that ordered the 18th received the tracking info.
Something is happening. Im not sure of what yet, but something is happening.
Holy crap! Who? is he on this forum? PANIC! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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May 27, 2013, 05:16:23 PM |
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LOL.
BTW, a friend of mine that ordered the 18th received the tracking info.
Does your friend have account here?
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May 27, 2013, 05:20:05 PM |
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LOL.
BTW, a friend of mine that ordered the 18th received the tracking info.
Something is happening. Im not sure of what yet, but something is happening.
In the "something is happening" category, I have a Feb. 3 order and on May 22 I received a heart-attack-inducing email from Avalon saying "no ZIP code, can not sent." I sent back the zip code immediately, and I have no idea how that got missed when I placed the order in the first place... but I guess it somehow did. The order still doesn't show up in the store, and I haven't received a tracking number. Still, someone is looking at things.
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May 27, 2013, 05:23:10 PM |
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I just contacted my friend on skype to ask him if i could make his name (he has an account here) and he replied that it was a joke... I didn't understood it, evidently. Skype screenshoot: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F4SX9P0r.png&t=665&c=RERaNxOh5CR49A) (he ordered after me, so i was starting to think i would receive the units soon... no way). Sorry for the drama...
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My anger against what is wrong in the Bitcoin community is productive: Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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May 27, 2013, 05:28:04 PM |
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I just contacted my friend on skype to ask him if i could make his name (he has an account here) and he replied that it was a joke... I didn't understood it, evidently. Skype screenshoot: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F4SX9P0r.png&t=665&c=RERaNxOh5CR49A) (he ordered after me, so i was starting to think i would receive the units soon... no way). Sorry for the drama... Name and shame this joker! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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May 27, 2013, 05:34:21 PM |
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I just contacted my friend on skype to ask him if i could make his name (he has an account here) and he replied that it was a joke... I didn't understood it, evidently. Skype screenshoot: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F4SX9P0r.png&t=665&c=RERaNxOh5CR49A) (he ordered after me, so i was starting to think i would receive the units soon... no way). Sorry for the drama... che scherzo del cazzo... (translation: what a foolish joke)
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May 27, 2013, 10:32:05 PM |
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That was a cruel joke. In some places if they make a joke like this, they get lynched if caught.
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It seemed like a good idea at the time.
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May 27, 2013, 11:17:05 PM |
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OMG don't joke with this. You're going to hurt people's heart ![Lips sealed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/lipsrsealed.gif)
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May 28, 2013, 01:15:33 PM |
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Good news guys. They have indeed started shipping the remaining second batch. Just got a DHL tracking number. Order was placed on the 3rd. Fingers crossed that the unit arrives in a good condition.
Cheers
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May 28, 2013, 01:24:27 PM |
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Good news guys. They have indeed started shipping the remaining second batch. Just got a DHL tracking number. Order was placed on the 3rd. Fingers crossed that the unit arrives in a good condition.
Cheers
Congrats!
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May 28, 2013, 01:27:59 PM |
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and still no news regarding the trade-in... so i guess no trade-ins soon ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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Komuto Herovato is definitely the chief engineer of bfl)
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May 28, 2013, 02:14:48 PM |
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Me too, e-mail confirmed, and filled in order page with status processing.
I guess all of you had placed orders with an account, and once you log into the account you could always see those orders? But what about the rest of us, who had to place an order as Guest (due to the who ordering debacle with Walletbit), has anybody of those orders received any confirmation from Avalon (other than the communication with Walletbit)? Here too, nothing at the Order Page and nothing heard so far.. anyone here who ordered as guest and DID receive anything?
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