Nemo1024
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September 24, 2013, 07:58:44 AM |
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gox taking forever to cash out, coinabase with a limit of 10 (!) btc a day...
what are those exchanges doing to us ?
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Ytterbium
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September 24, 2013, 09:05:44 AM |
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Basically across the board the share prices dropped, not because of any fundamental change with the underlying asset, but rather because people were willing to sell for a loss to take their btc off of the exchange. In other words, share prices are at a discount right now.
Now that coinbase.com has a 10btc/day limit on instant transactions I'm unable to quickly move fiat into bitcoin, thus the auction.
Why not just auction off some cash? |
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demonmaestro
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September 24, 2013, 09:34:36 AM |
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 500 pages of complete BS and the rest is some good info... |
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The Avenger
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September 24, 2013, 10:45:35 AM |
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500 pages of complete BS and the rest is some good info...
Yeah, it's up to about 40 pages of BS per week now. I'd guesstimate 26th Sept > 3rd October - 70 pages of BS?  |
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sbfree
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September 24, 2013, 10:57:12 AM |
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come on KNC, your cake is waiting....  |
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The Avenger
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September 24, 2013, 11:01:47 AM |
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Sam is so confident on shipping on time, he's started spending the profits already:  |
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Xialla
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September 24, 2013, 11:06:58 AM |
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just received mail from KNC: Dear Daniel,
Your order is expected to ship towards the end of September.
Once the order is shipped you will receive the tracking number.
Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have further questions.
Med vänlig hälsning | Best regards
Anna Jagdhar
Kncminer
www.kncminer.com
Office: +46 8559 253 20it means, that they are still on track, so peace in mind for next ~24 hours.)  |
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The Avenger
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September 24, 2013, 11:17:11 AM |
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They told you on the 24th September: Your order is expected to ship towards the end of September.
And that reassures you?  |
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Xialla
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September 24, 2013, 11:25:26 AM |
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And that reassures you?
honestly, in this phase I can't imagine the answer, which will reassures me more.) but as I mentioned previously in this thread, is hard to believe, that they are able to assemble, test, package and ship hundreds of boxes within few days. I stand with my pre order couple of months, so last few days are like nothing.) |
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September 24, 2013, 11:33:57 AM |
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And that reassures you?
honestly, in this phase I can't imagine the answer, which will reassures me more.) but as I mentioned previously in this thread, is hard to believe, that they are able to assemble, test, package and ship hundreds of boxes within few days. I stand with my pre order couple of months, so last few days are like nothing.) I can tell you which answer will reassure you more: your order will be shipped on 2x September, and its expect to be delivered to you the day after. |
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alfabitcoin
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September 24, 2013, 11:54:18 AM |
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Since beginning KNC were straight company. I can understand why they have started to take preorders. But why to take preorders to november delivery since that is also an risk for buyers and miner price is based on diff change prediction.
KNC was honest and was aware of it, they were aginst preorder model but it was needed to make the asic miners in the first place. Now when they made it why to continue to have preorders? Why just do not built x stock unit and sell them at x price with imidate shipping? Risk is again on their customers. I know that they can refund it at any time but why KNC has to have locked our money?
What has changed since several months ago? Nothing, preorder model are still in the full bloom!
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androsyn
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September 24, 2013, 12:08:39 PM |
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untill now knc
have delay
because no real photo of chips
and only a word that he will sent at end of will be ready
knc will be out of time for sure
Europe is neither USA nor China..but let's wait and see KnC are opening to chinese market too |
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September 24, 2013, 12:10:01 PM |
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Since beginning KNC were straight company. I can understand why they have started to take preorders. But why to take preorders to november delivery since that is also an risk for buyers and miner price is based on diff change prediction.
KNC was honest and was aware of it, they were aginst preorder model but it was needed to make the asic miners in the first place. Now when they made it why to continue to have preorders? Why just do not built x stock unit and sell them at x price with imidate shipping? Risk is again on their customers. I know that they can refund it at any time but why KNC has to have locked our money?
What has changed since several months ago? Nothing, preorder model are still in the full bloom!
probably because of the competitors. if you had a company selling such devices and see the pre-order orgies happening with competition you may ask yourself: do i want to watch this millions going to the competition or do i want to make my product "available" now to get a share of the pie ? |
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alfabitcoin
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September 24, 2013, 12:17:54 PM |
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Since beginning KNC were straight company. I can understand why they have started to take preorders. But why to take preorders to november delivery since that is also an risk for buyers and miner price is based on diff change prediction.
KNC was honest and was aware of it, they were aginst preorder model but it was needed to make the asic miners in the first place. Now when they made it why to continue to have preorders? Why just do not built x stock unit and sell them at x price with imidate shipping? Risk is again on their customers. I know that they can refund it at any time but why KNC has to have locked our money?
What has changed since several months ago? Nothing, preorder model are still in the full bloom!
probably because of the competitors. if you had a company selling such devices and see the pre-order orgies happening with competition you may ask yourself: do i want to watch this millions going to the competition or do i want to make my product "available" now to get a share of the pie ? I agree with you and came on the same conclusion. However somebody need to be first to offer with medium profit and not to squezze out every btc they can, now. (aside AM what have different story). KNC did discused about preorder model many times and was against it and imply that they will use it only once as startup capital. |
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timmmers
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September 24, 2013, 12:22:15 PM |
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And that reassures you?
honestly, in this phase I can't imagine the answer, which will reassures me more.) but as I mentioned previously in this thread, is hard to believe, that they are able to assemble, test, package and ship hundreds of boxes within few days. I stand with my pre order couple of months, so last few days are like nothing.) I thought it would be very close, then they posted that video of the boards being manufactured ...cast a lot of doubt for me. After all, they were talking about the boards being tested weeks ago and posting pics of them. I assumed they'd got that job well under way or complete by now just ready for chips until that comment about "millions of components arriving" , and now that video making sense of the comment. A lot to do in days, and that assumes all runs smoothly. I still think that simply packing and shipping and setting up the pool details etc. which are nothing to do with manufacturing isn't a minor endevour and will take some time. Not to mention populating that data centre. Very labour intensive stuff that needs to be done right. |
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September 24, 2013, 12:29:53 PM |
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Since beginning KNC were straight company. I can understand why they have started to take preorders. But why to take preorders to november delivery since that is also an risk for buyers and miner price is based on diff change prediction.
KNC was honest and was aware of it, they were aginst preorder model but it was needed to make the asic miners in the first place. Now when they made it why to continue to have preorders? Why just do not built x stock unit and sell them at x price with imidate shipping? Risk is again on their customers. I know that they can refund it at any time but why KNC has to have locked our money?
What has changed since several months ago? Nothing, preorder model are still in the full bloom!
probably because of the competitors. if you had a company selling such devices and see the pre-order orgies happening with competition you may ask yourself: do i want to watch this millions going to the competition or do i want to make my product "available" now to get a share of the pie ? I agree. Watching the "pre-order orgies" from the sidelines is no fun. But the straight-laced Mother Superior act begins to crumble once the habit is under the bed & you're covered with Strawberry KY  |
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September 24, 2013, 12:45:20 PM |
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And that reassures you?
honestly, in this phase I can't imagine the answer, which will reassures me more.) but as I mentioned previously in this thread, is hard to believe, that they are able to assemble, test, package and ship hundreds of boxes within few days. I stand with my pre order couple of months, so last few days are like nothing.) I thought it would be very close, then they posted that video of the boards being manufactured ...cast a lot of doubt for me. After all, they were talking about the boards being tested weeks ago and posting pics of them. I assumed they'd got that job well under way or complete by now just ready for chips until that comment about "millions of components arriving" , and now that video making sense of the comment. A lot to do in days, and that assumes all runs smoothly. I still think that simply packing and shipping and setting up the pool details etc. which are nothing to do with manufacturing isn't a minor endevour and will take some time. Not to mention populating that data centre. Very labour intensive stuff that needs to be done right. Dude they ran a caption competition and stated they were ordering the revisions like a couple of weeks back. The boards in that video were fully populated with everything but the ASIC and a heatsink. Chips comes in, solder balls heated and affixed, screwed to casing, heatsink mounted, wires connected to controller board and fire it up. |
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September 24, 2013, 01:08:31 PM |
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That's IF the chips come out flawlessly on spec/power.
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Meizirkki
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September 24, 2013, 01:35:08 PM |
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The boards in that video were fully populated with everything but the ASIC and a heatsink.
Nope, only SMD components were in place. Of course, we can't know how old this video is. It could be from the prototype run from many weeks ago. |
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timmmers
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September 24, 2013, 01:53:57 PM |
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See. that makes no fucking sense at all. Posting a video of something that was done weeks ago as a teaser at this point?
I saw the pic of the board and heatsinks too, and based on that I assumed they were on top of that and we were just waiting for chips ...then up pops that video teaser of them apparently manufacturing boards?
In their place and pushed for time they should be sitting ready for the chips now. This is no place for JIT practices, it's a race.
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