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[Jaerin]

That's a cool idea, didn't think about that.   I saw your batch script posted in the middle of some other post, but could never really find it again.  I used Nemo's batch version for a while until I switched to multipoolminer and got that running pretty solid.

One reason using the pool to direct things I'd expect is there might be some logic to moving when work is finished rather than one a 1 minute timer.

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[3xcalibur]

I just wanted to say that I've been using Zpool over the last 3 weeks or so to check it out.
I really like the payout in BTC, and I'm also very impressed that crackfoo pays the payout fees too!
A couple of days ago I noticed 30000 miners using neoscrypt I wondered what that was about lol.
At the moment I have just one 1080ti up and running, although I'm planning for another soon - they sure aren't cheap in Australia.
Although profits have been down a little for a few weeks I was trying to compare to nicehash and it seems like on average I make about 20-30% more.
Nicehash was showing 1.2 mBTC for a 1080ti over yesterday according to their calculator, and I bought in about 1.7. There are mods for nicehash like gaco that can increase profit for it a little but it's still under. These figures were consistant over 3 weeks or so with checking nicehash every couple of days.
So for those who persevere and don't take their profit calculation from 2 hours of mining, or the high spikes of temporarily inflated algorithms, I can highly recommend Zpool, also I've noticed twice with C11 and Veltor extended spikes that raised profits, this can happen sometimes with Zpool as there's many algorithms to use.
I just have one question and sorry if it's odd as I'm still new, but would anyone mind explaining how come zcash is greyed out and what that means ? I know that there's other equihash coins that we can still mine when we point to that port though.

p.s. everytime there's a pool error it's normally fixed quickly and the mining data is backed up anyways it seems. i didn't notice any profitability hit from recent pool events.

Thanks for the great work, Zpool.

Thanks a lot. Mining isn't as simple as just pointing it a pool and expecting to rain gold like other people think. Looks like you've got it figured out and doing some smart mining.

As for ZEC, we don't quite have enough hashrate to make it feasible to put hashrate on it yet. The pool is still not quite as fast as I would like it which can result in longer periods of bad/good luck making it seem not profitable to the average miner.  Right now it's 3days to find a block. Most miners can't wait that long to not see their trough filling with earnings. If we can sustain ~2Msol I think it might be enough to flip it as active for mining.

Thanks!

Ah I think that I understand. Cheers for the quick and positive reply too. So equihash currently seems to be mining around 80-200Ksol total at the moment, therefore it would take 5-10 times or even more mining hash before it would be worth making it active, if I understand right. Looking at the difficulty zcash seems much higher than the other equihash coins, and I see 2days per block estimated at the time of writing. I can just imagine some complaints if people were mining it and waiting 3 days for the block revenue, even though in one way it's funny, some people may just not understand that zcash wouldn't pay out as fast, hence it not being included.

In terms of switching I'm currently using 4 minutes per algo check, can anyone recommend a setting that in their opinion could work better ? 60-90 seconds to me means that too much time is lost switching and the mining program working up to full speed, whereas something like 10 minutes could leave another algo potentially unmined that's currently getting good figures, although maybe it could work ?

I'm very happy, I put the remaining deposit on my 2nd 1080ti today, it should arrive sometime in the next 3-4 days. I was thinking of trying steady mining on one coin with it, whilst algo switching with the other, or would people recommend using both for algo switching ? And if I was to steady mine on one card, even though many miners prolly don't wish to divulge their secrets (!), maybe someone could recommend a method for doing that, or maybe try just mining 2 different algo's with seperate cards ? More cards = more options lol.

Cheers crackfoo for the explanation, and gratz on a great pool that I hope continues to increase in reputation and profitability for you and the pool's users.

Any response on how to effectively use 2 cards to mine on zpool with either split steady, algo switching, or a combination of the 2 would be highly appreciated for a new miner. Thanks !

[Megaquake]

I set my miner up just to test and see why my miner would show a very low hash rate this should be self explanatory, looks like one of the fast moving coins may be causing this issue who knows?

I have "failover-only" : true,


Time mining 31m30s


Pool                         URL                                                   User                    Status             Diff                 GetWorks   Priority     Accepted
0       stratum+tcp://scrypt.mine.zpool.ca:3433                                              Alive             65.5K                   234           0            200
1       stratum+tcp://scrypt.mine.zpool.ca:3433                                              Alive             65.5K                    27            1            34

[ilitirit]

I find this thread highly entertaining.

EDIT:  The post above me was deleted.

[crackfoo]

That's a cool idea, didn't think about that.   I saw your batch script posted in the middle of some other post, but could never really find it again.  I used Nemo's batch version for a while until I switched to multipoolminer and got that running pretty solid.

One reason using the pool to direct things I'd expect is there might be some logic to moving when work is finished rather than one a 1 minute timer.

The link to his batch is in his sig.

[JaredKaragen]

That's a cool idea, didn't think about that.   I saw your batch script posted in the middle of some other post, but could never really find it again.  I used Nemo's batch version for a while until I switched to multipoolminer and got that running pretty solid.

One reason using the pool to direct things I'd expect is there might be some logic to moving when work is finished rather than one a 1 minute timer.

The link to his batch is in his sig.

correct.

Feel free to PM me with any issues/questions, or email me the same username at gmail =)

[guytechie]

Hey, is anyone else getting under-reported hasrhate for timetravel?

My rig says I'm getting 137.81 MH/s (3x 1080 Ti), but according to the site I'm getting only 1.4 MH/s.

Is the difficulty too low?  Sometimes I get a blast of accepted shares.  I tried turning up the difficulty in the password, but the stratum still uses a low difficulty (ignores my custom difficulty).

[JaredKaragen]

Hey, is anyone else getting under-reported hasrhate for timetravel?

My rig says I'm getting 137.81 MH/s (3x 1080 Ti), but according to the site I'm getting only 1.4 MH/s.

Is the difficulty too low?  Sometimes I get a blast of accepted shares.  I tried turning up the difficulty in the password, but the stratum still uses a low difficulty (ignores my custom difficulty).

be sure diff is a proper multiple.   some algos don't like odd diffs, and some don't like fractions (decimals) for some reason.   Crackfoo may know more.

How many diffs did you try to set?    I noticed your issues on algos like the CPU mined low hashrate ones with 2-3 decimal places.

[Jaerin]

Hey, is anyone else getting under-reported hasrhate for timetravel?

My rig says I'm getting 137.81 MH/s (3x 1080 Ti), but according to the site I'm getting only 1.4 MH/s.

Is the difficulty too low?  Sometimes I get a blast of accepted shares.  I tried turning up the difficulty in the password, but the stratum still uses a low difficulty (ignores my custom difficulty).

It seems to be the nature of the Timetravel algorithm.  It seems like it won't accept any shares for a bit and then all of a sudden submit a ton of low difficulty shares all at once.  I don't think this is a pool problem because I've seen the same behavior on other pools I've tried Timetravel on as well.

Setting a fixed difficulty also doesn't seem to change this behavior much.  This leads me to believe it is something with how the shares are calculated or intended to be accepted by the pool.  It might be something with how it is coded in ccminer, but I'm not sure.  As for the difference between local and pool hashrate that is all up to the luck of which of your shares are being accepted.  If you're not seeing errors about shares being rejected then it is likely just unlucky hashing that has it down.  Overtime it will average out.

[guytechie]

Hey, is anyone else getting under-reported hasrhate for timetravel?

My rig says I'm getting 137.81 MH/s (3x 1080 Ti), but according to the site I'm getting only 1.4 MH/s.

Is the difficulty too low?  Sometimes I get a blast of accepted shares.  I tried turning up the difficulty in the password, but the stratum still uses a low difficulty (ignores my custom difficulty).

be sure diff is a proper multiple.   some algos don't like odd diffs, and some don't like fractions (decimals) for some reason.   Crackfoo may know more.

How many diffs did you try to set?    I noticed your issues on algos like the CPU mined low hashrate ones with 2-3 decimal places.

The one I had issues with before was hmq1725 before the default diff was raised.  Also equihash somehow defaults to 200 (which is way too high), so I corrected that manually.

Then it was skein, which no one responded on:

"The hashrate for skein is off.  My miners are telling me they are hashing at 781 MH, but on the site I'm only seeing 57 MH.  One has 2x 1080 TI so it is getting 1.91 GH, but the site says 120 MH.

What's going on?"

I kind of gave up on following up after no one answered a 2nd post (got lost by the person screaming wolf).  But now I notice timetravel giving me hashrate issues.

I've been noticing my earnings isn't higher using the profit based method (multiple algos, factors, etc) compared to just mining on equihash only.  But I noticed it was on algos that were very low in profits and most likely because the % of shares is low due to the actual hashrate seen by the pool vs what's considered profitable by the miner based on hash rate of the miner (not on the pool side).

So now I am paying attention to the miner reported speed and what's being reported on the pool.  I give it about 5 minutes to "catch up" to see if the hashrate settles and get close to the reported hashrate on the miners.

PS:  No issues on the only 2 CPU algos (m7m and xevan).

[JaredKaragen]

FWIW on skien; up to 3Gh on one machine, the diff still hovered between .8 and 1.1....

keep an eye on your share % of an algo for ~10 min-2 hours...  average that percentage, then look at the pools total BTC earned for the last 24 hours... see how good of a theoretical cut you would get....

Take the low % ones, and just throw them out the window (disable in batch), leaving 4-5 algos and only the best earners... you will see more profitability.

Also consider my theory (that keeps proving in my life to be true) that when a hashrate on an algo grows past a certain amount;  profitability feels like the network total hash has increased.  Like skien;  when it was ~30Gh, and I was 1Gh;  I was making insane profits;  but as soon as another 70+Gh ended up there, the profitability flattened out until the hashrate dropped on the pool for a bit.

For nvidia rigs;  I choose skein, neoscrypt, C11, X17, and NIST5 currently.... as an example.  Might help you out.

Keeping the others in the batch allows you to gain the quickest benefit to ming a coin/algo that has suddenly surged in exchange pricing, so it's a double edged sword as to what you choose to do.

Every now and then, on some algos, I see reduced hashrate.  It is usually just a run of unlucky shares (no high results in your work units)....  and is sporadic when it happens.  sometimes just an hour or two, sometimes a day....

skein is notorious for having an odd share-to-hashrate calculation;  cause when you find a share @ lets say a diff of 30, often you will see an identical, or nearly identical sized share right after it....  happens a lot on skien.

I personally have always seen less profit on equihash, and haven't even bothered trying to mine it again since my last test several months ago.

[guytechie]

Take the low % ones, and just throw them out the window (disable in batch), leaving 4-5 algos and only the best earners... you will see more profitability.

This right here is a good strategy.  I'm going to have to pay attention to this.  Thanks!

[cashen]

Whats this skunk algo all about?

[Storx]

Whats this skunk algo all about?

where you seeing this?

[PolarFiasco]

Whats this skunk algo all about?

No exchange yet so won't be on zpool. Waiting for ccminer 2.2 to mine with Nvidia.

[PolarFiasco]

Whats this skunk algo all about?

where you seeing this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2030529.0

[SFR10]

why haven't I been paid


http://zpool.ca/?address=1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje


I was over .01  last payout 

I was over .01 the payout before that.

next payment is due in 2 hours  hoping to be paid then.

Payouts have changed since you were last mining here. It should be over 0.015BTC for every payout (except for the Sunday payouts).

[philipma1957]

why haven't I been paid


http://zpool.ca/?address=1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje


I was over .01  last payout  

I was over .01 the payout before that.

next payment is due in 2 hours  hoping to be paid then.

Payouts have changed since you were last mining here. It should be over 0.015BTC for every payout (except for the Sunday payouts).

Okay  I will delete that post. Thanks for info.

And deleted.

[crackfoo]

Hi,

I just added the jha algo and SWEEP coin to zpool.

Cheers

[Storx]

Hi,

I just added the jha algo and SWEEP coin to zpool.

Cheers

I added it to my mining rigs, but unfortunately its not yet once broke into the top 5 for profit on my rigs, so since benchmarking it on my rigs, its not been mined again since... I found CCminerTribus 2.1 to have the highest hashing rates on the 1080 and 1080ti's on it