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[Rosewater Foundation]

You people are too damn smart. Verified checksum? Shee-it. How I ever got mixed up with you lot is beyond me.

Yeah... it's a decent gig.

Best paying job I ever had.

[Arriemoller]

^^^^
You're intuition is spot on.

Also, power prices in Germany (and other Euro countries) going negative? So why aren't more Bitcoin miners setting up shop there?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/25/business/energy-environment/germany-electricity-negative-prices.html

Warmist propaganda.
Germany has one of the highest price of electricity in Europe

Because 'customers' pay a fixed rate. Typically ~ 33 US cent / kWh, taxes, transportation fees (really), regional fees (regions with weaker infrastructure pay more), ecology fees (to pay people feeding power in from solar panels) and... more stuff... Selling prices are not really influenced by purchase/production costs. Long story short, mining will pay-off only if you have your own solar park and the sun is shining.

...or if you make a deal with somebody who will mine for you at a better electricity rate. 

This guy just opened a mining farm in Malmö, Sweden http://www.skd.se/2017/11/07/bitcoin-fabrik-oppnade-i-hamnen/
 And there is one in an actual mine in northern Sweden, and the old KNC miner rigs are still working. They were bought from the bankruptcy estate by a entrepreneur who knows nothing about mining but a lot about business. He lets people rent the rigs and he insulated the place and harnessed the heat and now sells it to the neighboring industries in the area. So more and more mining is going on in Europe, at least in Sweden.

[sirazimuth]

Haha, now this is choice.
http://www.businessinsider.com/ethereum-founder-threatens-to-leave-if-the-crypto-community-doesnt-grow-up-2017-12

Vitalik Buterin goes on a rant pointing out all that is currently wrong with the crypto world, as well as admitting what goals Ethereum and other cryptos haven't yet accomplished.

But then he threatens to leave the Ethereum project because of it. Which inadvertently highlights another fallacy: how important he supposedly believes he is to the Ethereum project, or that a decentralized cryptocurrency should have ever had a CEO/Lead creator/developer in the first place.    

Also, it's pretty ironic that the MSM want to use the analogy of Beanie Babies when referring to Bitcoin. But the CryptoKitties dapp is literally a digital version of Beanie Babies reincarnate. But of course they don't say shit about that.

He wants the Crypto community to grow up whilst he posts a pic of himself in which he looks about 12 years old?

... Whilst threatening to rage quit as a crying child would do because of trolls are being just trolls.

ETH is an exploding clown car. So now he cares? There isn't a worthwhile dApp now, and there wasn't even the hint of one when he created this mess. It has no use case. It never did. He should feel bad.

missing the boat and didnt buy ETH at sub 10 $?  

I saw that boat. I chose to stay in this one. No big woop.

Bet you saw the other now  20 or so  mega yachts too....like me....sux dont it?

I'm given to understand boat ownership is overrated. Fancy cars are kind of a pain in the ass too, if you ask me. Fix the lube, jiff the skip, hoist the crankshafts. Uff. Forget it.

Um...ok, but thats not what i meant...boats as in the eth mega yacht boat, yeah ?
Shit nm...ive had too many ....lol

[Rosewater Foundation]

The poll is bullish as fark. Who here really thinks we're going to see $20k in three days? Tera?

[cAPSLOCK]

The poll is bullish as fark. Who here really thinks we're going to see $20k in three days? Tera?

Yeaaaah... I might have overshot it just a wee little.

[explorer]

There were almost a hundred thousand new members registered on bitcointalk in November this year. During November last year it was closer to ten thousand new members registered. When it's a million new members a month bitcoin will be going mainstream.

Can you please provide a link where I can see new joiners ?  Thanks in advance. 

All but one were bots...

[Rosewater Foundation]

There were almost a hundred thousand new members registered on bitcointalk in November this year. During November last year it was closer to ten thousand new members registered. When it's a million new members a month bitcoin will be going mainstream.

Can you please provide a link where I can see new joiners ?  Thanks in advance. 

All but one were bots...

Don't look at me. I snuck into October.

[bones261]

The poll is bullish as fark. Who here really thinks we're going to see $20k in three days? Tera?

Screw 20K we need it to be billions and billions. 

[Rosewater Foundation]

Carl Sagan would fit in well in Colorado these days. Fun fact.

[TERA2]

Now that the forum is completely pessimistic I wouldnt be suprised if it just spiked straight up to 20K like 'Aha! Fooled you. The bear market is off.'

so I see you set yourself up for both ways eh? you should be a cold reader. the credulous folk would see you as a psychic genius...

EXACTLY what these predicting folks try to do.  Predict in both directions, and then try to act as if whatever happens was consistent with what they were predicting all along.  The best posters remain those who condition their predictions and remain humble about correct outcomes.  I really doubt that anyone can predict with more than 80% confidence, and even that is quite high, but yeah, I already understand that a large majority of folks do like to predict in terms of absolutes, even though future outcomes do not work like that (until they become historical events).   

I was making more of a sarcastic remark rather than a prediction.

However there are people who set themselves up using a matrix of accounts with every combination of multiple predictions. For example if there are 3 yes/no predictions to be made then they need 8 accounts. Whichever account made all the correct predictions is then used to pump something.

[Arriemoller]

So, let's see if I got it all right.

I go to the library, (with my clothes on), download the "make your paper wallet" site from the library computer (so the computer can't be traced to me) onto a USB stick. Buy a refurbished poo computer from Ebay, Get naked, take a shower just to be sure, put on a balaclava thats been in the microwave to kill the microcameras that might have been put there by the Chinese who made it, get an enema, make the wallets, preferably in a dark room with loud music, print them on a virgin printer, pour petrol on the printer and computer and burn them, put the wallets in an envelope seal it with wax and my coat of arms, and put it in my box in the bank.

Did I miss anything?

But seriously, thank you all for your input, I know OPSEC is important, and I do get more and more paranoid as the price goes up.

[Dabs]

However there are people who set themselves up using a matrix of accounts with every combination of multiple predictions. For example if there are 3 yes/no predictions to be made then they need 8 accounts. Whichever account made all the correct predictions is then used to pump something.

Awesome, that's brute force right there. All possible combinations. Takes a lot of work to do manually the more predictions in a row you need to get correct, but I guess it can be automated.

[Rosewater Foundation]

Did I miss anything?

Burn the bank.

[bitserve]

Try to use the Via BTC accelerator

https://pool.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/

Sorry, your TXID doesn't exist  when I use accelerator.

How were your funds stolen?

Windows 10, I just did a fresh install a few days ago. I haven’t installed much other then btc, Ltd, ripple wallet. Not sure how I got a virus. It turned off windows defender and I only saw it detected a virus when I turned it back on. This is after I already noticed my coins moving on the blockchain. I don’t keep wallets on on my pc but I had them on for a min earlier today to move some coins.

That's what hardware wallets are for... to NEVER let your regular computer know your private keys not even for a brief second (which people with paperwallets will have to do when they decide to claim them).

Unfortunately that advice is of not much help for your recent incident now

Um, read his latest post. Its all good man...

Yeah, should have read all the pending posts before replying anything... Great that he recovered the funds in the end! The advice stands though, and it seems many people are also going that route nowadays in comparison to even the beginning of this year.

[TERA2]

So, let's see if I got it all right.

I go to the library, (with my clothes on), download the "make your paper wallet" site from the library computer (so the computer can't be traced to me) onto a USB stick. Buy a refurbished poo computer from Ebay, Get naked, take a shower just to be sure, put on a balaclava thats been in the microwave to kill the microcameras that might have been put there by the Chinese who made it, get an enema, make the wallets, preferably in a dark room with loud music, print them on a virgin printer, pour petrol on the printer and computer and burn them, put the wallets in an envelope seal it with wax and my coat of arms, and put it in my box in the bank.

Did I miss anything?

But seriously, thank you all for your input, I know OPSEC is important, and I do get more and more paranoid as the price goes up.

I would tear the paper wallet in half and store it in two different banks and also cut off a third piece that is only memorized.

[Rosewater Foundation]

So, let's see if I got it all right.

I go to the library, (with my clothes on), download the "make your paper wallet" site from the library computer (so the computer can't be traced to me) onto a USB stick. Buy a refurbished poo computer from Ebay, Get naked, take a shower just to be sure, put on a balaclava thats been in the microwave to kill the microcameras that might have been put there by the Chinese who made it, get an enema, make the wallets, preferably in a dark room with loud music, print them on a virgin printer, pour petrol on the printer and computer and burn them, put the wallets in an envelope seal it with wax and my coat of arms, and put it in my box in the bank.

Did I miss anything?

But seriously, thank you all for your input, I know OPSEC is important, and I do get more and more paranoid as the price goes up.

I would tear the paper wallet in half and store it in two different banks and also cut off a third piece that is only memorized.

What happens when he burns the banks? It's a flaw.

[windjc]

So, let's see if I got it all right.

I go to the library, (with my clothes on), download the "make your paper wallet" site from the library computer (so the computer can't be traced to me) onto a USB stick. Buy a refurbished poo computer from Ebay, Get naked, take a shower just to be sure, put on a balaclava thats been in the microwave to kill the microcameras that might have been put there by the Chinese who made it, get an enema, make the wallets, preferably in a dark room with loud music, print them on a virgin printer, pour petrol on the printer and computer and burn them, put the wallets in an envelope seal it with wax and my coat of arms, and put it in my box in the bank.

Did I miss anything?

But seriously, thank you all for your input, I know OPSEC is important, and I do get more and more paranoid as the price goes up.

I would tear the paper wallet in half and store it in two different banks and also cut off a third piece that is only memorized.

Then if you had a head injury you could easily lose your fortune.

[Arriemoller]

https://www.google.se/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwjegOzwsq7YAhUBXRQKHUedD8YQjBwIBA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fak7.picdn.net%2Fshutterstock%2Fvideos%2F2734487%2Fthumb%2F1.jpg&psig=AOvVaw3nFXMHkx1FAwyddsQom2Oo&ust=1514608564321947

[criptix]

Now that the forum is completely pessimistic I wouldnt be suprised if it just spiked straight up to 20K like 'Aha! Fooled you. The bear market is off.'

so I see you set yourself up for both ways eh? you should be a cold reader. the credulous folk would see you as a psychic genius...

EXACTLY what these predicting folks try to do.  Predict in both directions, and then try to act as if whatever happens was consistent with what they were predicting all along.  The best posters remain those who condition their predictions and remain humble about correct outcomes.  I really doubt that anyone can predict with more than 80% confidence, and even that is quite high, but yeah, I already understand that a large majority of folks do like to predict in terms of absolutes, even though future outcomes do not work like that (until they become historical events).   

I was making more of a sarcastic remark rather than a prediction.

However there are people who set themselves up using a matrix of accounts with every combination of multiple predictions. For example if there are 3 yes/no predictions to be made then they need 8 accounts. Whichever account made all the correct predictions is then used to pump something.

Except your name is John McMonkey (TM).

[sirazimuth]

The poll is bullish as fark. Who here really thinks we're going to see $20k in three days? Tera?

Screw 20K we need it to .....

Jeezus! thats like one of those mega annoying ads from the olden days... CLICK HERE FOR FREE BITCOIN!
Frikkin spare me.... (no offence btw ...im just lit up tonite)