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[Icygreen]

Message to r0ach:

LFC_Bitcoin just sent me 0.00587140 BTC (the equivalent of around $50). He doesn't know who I am. I don't know who he is. We did not have to register to any site or server. No one, I repeat, NO ONE, could stop this transaction from happening. Even if one miner refused to confirm it for some reason, there are thousands more who would. There were no intermediaries. No company or bank to allow or deny it. He cannot take it back. No one can. He was the sole owner of that amount. He transferred ownership to me. Now I am the sole owner of that amount. He did this from (probably) thousands of miles away from me. He did not have to send anything by mail. It happened over the air. Electronically. It took less than half an hour. It cost less than $0.40. It will stay in the Blockchain forever. That's Bitcoin.

Derp...

what are you doing in this forum wasting your time?

Take your pick, hint, you can choose more than one.
A. Paid Troll
B. Untreated Mental illness
C. Sociopath - antisocial personality disorder
D. Old and in the way, shakes fist at sky
E. Deeply bitter for buying silver @$35 in 2011-12 with all his BTC

[STT]

9000 isnt resistance, its an indicator and I'm not saying people wont react and also selling might occur but its an accumulation or average not a set block of historic volume so I would not especially rate selling or orders likely waiting at that price (ie. a proper top or wall exactly) .   Ditto for 10k itself which though we love round numbers for easy reference, it doesnt 100% make sense to see 10k as resistance or support either due to the global aspect of BTC every price around the world is different.    Dollar is a big currency, the oil price for example is very often shown in dollars even if you live 15000 miles away but still when I goto fill up my car its in my own currency and its the people (vs suppliers) who decide a price not market traders or speculators.
   I do think we are in a cycle still, I dont believe we have yet found an established trend like Feb to July seemed to keep to, a channel upwards.   So a cycle down from 9000 to a lower price maybe even back to 50 day is within the range of possibilities and I never try to guess news events tbh.

I missed the opportunity earlier to post Vegeta

[JayJuanGee]

I really thought that it was jonoiv that I was responding to - hence my aggression.

Not like anybody here is going to listen to *my* opinion on this matter, but... jonoiv gotz a bum rap in this thread. Undeservedly.

Well, sorry to hear that.
But he did manage to stand out that day that he spammed WO.

Yeah. He reacted less than graciously. When one ringleader attacked an exaggerated strawman of his position, and then all y'all baby sharks ripped into him, having smelled blood in the water that was not your own.

Oh gawd, jbreher.  You are pathetic.  Sympathizing with a known bullshitter.  It takes one to know one, is that your commonality with jonoiv.

Nice contribution, JJG. Really meaningful. </sarc>

There's no need for a /sarc there.  I did make a "meaningful" contribution... You are identifying with jonoiv, which is pathetic.  Is it not? Sure, you like to stir shit, too... That's why you cannot resist to post your bcash sv nonsense here.

By the way, why aren't you out dancing and celebrating in the Bcash SV threads rather than hanging out with us bitcoin losers?

I dunno - why are you 'chiming in' on sgbetts' thread, rather than spending 100% of your time here?

Yeah, sgbett is a bcash and/or bcash sv acolyte, but the particular thread that I was going back and forth with him was a bitcoin thread, not a bcash or a bcash SV thread.  Several times, sgbett has conceded that the thread is supposed to be about bitcoin, but he keeps bringing us bcash sv or other bcash nonsense talking points, and I suppose that is mostly the reason that I had been engaging with him about those largely irrelevant points.. or at least irrelevant to the thread's OP and some of his subsequent agreements that the thread was supposed to be about bitcoin.

[JayJuanGee]

Of course, Craig and his legal team is attempting to engage in kinds of delay tactics

You've obviously not read the recent pleadings. Ira is trying to stall. Craig is arguing for the previously agreed (faster) schedule.

I don't know if I should ask further.. or even give too many shits about it... .. <snip>

Nice attempt to admit you were wrong without actually saying so.

<comic sans> very slippery     much dissemble </comic sans>

Much like the bulk of what gets spewed around here regarding BSV or BCH, it is actually diametrically counterfactual echo chamber magnified bullshit. All y'all might wanna check some of your assumptions.

I said to give me a link to another thread, and I will discuss further if you want.

In this bitcoin thread, we don't need to justify any of our negative bashing of various other coins whether bcash or any other coin.  We can summarily dismiss them or even bash them a bit.. no need for evidence or even logic.   

[jbreher]

...end up getting fucked up the ass because you accidentally (or should we say recklessly?) poked ur lil selfie in the eye ball.  

Thatsa lotta prodding.

[heslo]

tl;dr: Craig is royally fucked in about 90 days.

One can only hope, I can't wait till his lies all catch up with him

[jbreher]

I really thought that it was jonoiv that I was responding to - hence my aggression.

Not like anybody here is going to listen to *my* opinion on this matter, but... jonoiv gotz a bum rap in this thread. Undeservedly.

Well, sorry to hear that.
But he did manage to stand out that day that he spammed WO.

Yeah. He reacted less than graciously. When one ringleader attacked an exaggerated strawman of his position, and then all y'all baby sharks ripped into him, having smelled blood in the water that was not your own.

Oh gawd, jbreher.  You are pathetic.  Sympathizing with a known bullshitter.  It takes one to know one, is that your commonality with jonoiv.

Nice contribution, JJG. Really meaningful. </sarc>

There's no need for a /sarc there.  I did make a "meaningful" contribution... You are identifying with jonoiv,

I am not _identifying_with_ jonoiv. I am pointing out that he was unfairly mischaracerized, and the resultant strawman was ridiculed relentlessly to the point that he reacted gracelessly thereto.

Several times, sgbett has conceded that the thread is supposed to be about bitcoin, but he keeps bringing us bcash sv or other bcash n

I guess you keep missing the not-so-concealed statements from sgbett that he is still referring to Bitcoin - specifically, to BSV.

At least that's what I read. Check it yourself. I wouldn't want to be putting words into sgbetts' mouth.

[DaRude]

Confirmed: Craig Wright doesn’t have keys to $8 billion of Bitcoin
Craig Wright’s lawyer says he didn’t receive the private keys to $8 billion worth of Bitcoin and provides an update on the Dave Kleiman court case.

https://decrypt.co/16998/confirmed-craig-wright-doesnt-have-keys-to-8-billion-of-bitcoin

tl;dr: Craig is royally fucked in about 90 days.

But his lawyer said today that that was not the case.

“The file that he’s received did not include private keys,” Andres Rivero, partner at Rivero Mestre law firm, told Decrypt. However, Wright still expects that he will receive the keys at a later date. Rivero said the keys may come either whole or split into parts, but declined to discuss further the particulars around who has the keys and when they might arrive.

No way! This is a shock! BSVers are jumping off the bridges, markets are going crazy and no one knows how to react to this...oh wait, nope, no one with one brain cell and even jbreher expected Faketoshi to have the keys!

jbreher logic:
1-Satoshi was a genius who created perfect code, thus we must follow truest implementation of satoshi code!
2-It doesn't matter whether Satoshi is an idiot who can't code, a serial liar and a perjurer who looses every trail he starts
3-

[jbreher]

Of course, Craig and his legal team is attempting to engage in kinds of delay tactics

You've obviously not read the recent pleadings. Ira is trying to stall. Craig is arguing for the previously agreed (faster) schedule.

I don't know if I should ask further.. or even give too many shits about it... .. <snip>

Nice attempt to admit you were wrong without actually saying so.

<comic sans> very slippery     much dissemble </comic sans>

Much like the bulk of what gets spewed around here regarding BSV or BCH, it is actually diametrically counterfactual echo chamber magnified bullshit. All y'all might wanna check some of your assumptions.

I said to give me a link to another thread, and I will discuss further if you want.

In this bitcoin thread, we don't need to justify any of our negative bashing of various other coins

Absolutely. But when your "bashing" becomes lying, then you most certainly have to answer for it.

[jbreher]

But his lawyer said today that that was not the case.

“The file that he’s received did not include private keys,” Andres Rivero, partner at Rivero Mestre law firm, told Decrypt. However, Wright still expects that he will receive the keys at a later date. Rivero said the keys may come either whole or split into parts, but declined to discuss further the particulars around who has the keys and when they might arrive.

No way! This is a shock! BSVers are jumping off the bridges, markets are going crazy and no one knows how to react to this...oh wait, nope, no one with one brain cell and even jbreher expected Faketoshi to have the keys!

Show me where I ever made that claim.

Fuckin' liar you are, DaRude. Which puts you squarely in the class that you accuse CSW being a member of.

[DaRude]

Confirmed: Craig Wright doesn’t have keys to $8 billion of Bitcoin
Craig Wright’s lawyer says he didn’t receive the private keys to $8 billion worth of Bitcoin and provides an update on the Dave Kleiman court case.

https://decrypt.co/16998/confirmed-craig-wright-doesnt-have-keys-to-8-billion-of-bitcoin

tl;dr: Craig is royally fucked in about 90 days.

But his lawyer said today that that was not the case.

“The file that he’s received did not include private keys,” Andres Rivero, partner at Rivero Mestre law firm, told Decrypt. However, Wright still expects that he will receive the keys at a later date. Rivero said the keys may come either whole or split into parts, but declined to discuss further the particulars around who has the keys and when they might arrive.

No way! This is a shock! BSVers are jumping off the bridges, markets are going crazy and no one knows how to react to this...oh wait, nope, no one with one brain cell and even jbreher expected Faketoshi to have the keys!

jbreher logic:
1-Satoshi was a genius who created perfect code, thus we must follow truest implementation of satoshi code!
2-It doesn't matter whether Satoshi is an idiot who can't code, a serial liar and a perjurer who looses every trail he starts
3-

Show me where I ever made that claim.

Fuckin' liar you are, DaRude. Which puts you squarely in the class that you accuse CSW being a member of.

That you shilling BSV because it follows truest implementation of satoshi's code? Or that you claim that it doesn't matter if CSW is Satoshi? Cause it's in like your every other post

[JayJuanGee]

I really thought that it was jonoiv that I was responding to - hence my aggression.

Not like anybody here is going to listen to *my* opinion on this matter, but... jonoiv gotz a bum rap in this thread. Undeservedly.

Well, sorry to hear that.
But he did manage to stand out that day that he spammed WO.

Yeah. He reacted less than graciously. When one ringleader attacked an exaggerated strawman of his position, and then all y'all baby sharks ripped into him, having smelled blood in the water that was not your own.

Of course, Craig and his legal team is attempting to engage in kinds of delay tactics

You've obviously not read the recent pleadings. Ira is trying to stall. Craig is arguing for the previously agreed (faster) schedule.

I don't know if I should ask further.. or even give too many shits about it... .. <snip>

Nice attempt to admit you were wrong without actually saying so.

<comic sans> very slippery     much dissemble </comic sans>

Much like the bulk of what gets spewed around here regarding BSV or BCH, it is actually diametrically counterfactual echo chamber magnified bullshit. All y'all might wanna check some of your assumptions.

I said to give me a link to another thread, and I will discuss further if you want.

In this bitcoin thread, we don't need to justify any of our negative bashing of various other coins

Absolutely. But when your "bashing" becomes lying, then you most certainly have to answer for it.

Oh gawd, jbreher.  You are pathetic.  Sympathizing with a known bullshitter.  It takes one to know one, is that your commonality with jonoiv.

Nice contribution, JJG. Really meaningful. </sarc>

There's no need for a /sarc there.  I did make a "meaningful" contribution... You are identifying with jonoiv,

I am not _identifying_with_ jonoiv. I am pointing out that he was unfairly mischaracerized, and the resultant strawman was ridiculed relentlessly to the point that he reacted gracelessly thereto.

Ok blame other people for jonoiv's graceless reaction... Makes a lot of sense.  

Several times, sgbett has conceded that the thread is supposed to be about bitcoin, but he keeps bringing us bcash sv or other bcash n

I guess you keep missing the not-so-concealed statements from sgbett that he is still referring to Bitcoin - specifically, to BSV.

At least that's what I read. Check it yourself. I wouldn't want to be putting words into sgbetts' mouth.

Don't be even more ridiculous than you already are.

The OP was not about BSV.  Yeah, he might have been mixing the concepts in some of his later posts, and so sometimes that can be the reason to call out the bullshit, but I already had this back and forth communication with him in the thread, so no need to rehash it here.  The OP is about bitcoin, not BSV, and whatever... enough said..

Of course, Craig and his legal team is attempting to engage in kinds of delay tactics

You've obviously not read the recent pleadings. Ira is trying to stall. Craig is arguing for the previously agreed (faster) schedule.

I don't know if I should ask further.. or even give too many shits about it... .. <snip>

Nice attempt to admit you were wrong without actually saying so.

<comic sans> very slippery     much dissemble </comic sans>

Much like the bulk of what gets spewed around here regarding BSV or BCH, it is actually diametrically counterfactual echo chamber magnified bullshit. All y'all might wanna check some of your assumptions.

I said to give me a link to another thread, and I will discuss further if you want.

In this bitcoin thread, we don't need to justify any of our negative bashing of various other coins

Absolutely. But when your "bashing" becomes lying, then you most certainly have to answer for it.

Are you just making up whatever rule about thread topic relevance that you want in order to troll/shill your bullshit, here?

If you had not noticed, this thread is about bitcoin.. so who fucking cares if what happens to be said about some other topic, such as a shitcoin bsv rises to the level of lies.. It does not matter.  

You are just making up shit and saying that you have a right to defend purported lies in order to try to find some kind of loophole/hook in which you are justified to talk about irrelevant shitcoin topics in this thread and to defend them or to bring up other bullshit about those irrelevant coins in this thread.

You do not deserve any loophole.. You talk about that nonsense enough here, and you are largely NOT justified in the amount that you talk about that baloney here.. but you do it anyhow in a persistent troll/shilling way.

[bitserve]

P.S.: This is my nº 5000 shitpost!!!! WEEEEEEEEEEEEE

5000
There are many posts, it's a long journey, nice number

Yeah, not everyone can reach such a HUGE amount of shitposting in just 7 years!

I am so proud... But I also want to thank my dear friends here on WO: I would have not been able to make it without you all. Cheers!

[infofront]

I'll interject with something nice. Congrats on your BSV investment, jbreher.

*ducks and runs*

[bitserve]

Edit:  By the way my sub $9k incremental sell orders just filled, next ones at $9,200-ish.... easy peasy... little by little.. sell, sell, sell as the price goes up, but only a little.  That's the mindless system that always attempts to stay ahead of the price moves... The price comes to your sell/buy orders, you do not go to the price..  It's making money in your sleep (kind of), as long as the underlying asset ultimately goes up..

Mines too. Now putting some buy orders at around $8.5-8.6K for the same amount.

Same as you, this has nothing to do with where I do think the price is going next. Scalping needs no feelings. It only needs some (almost unpredictible) sideways volatility.

Yep.. in these order settings, we are attempting to take advantage of BTC's almost inevitable short-term volatility like unemotional bots in regards to setting our orders.. [...]  

By the way, when i started doing this, at $250-ish [...]

Hey JJG, serious question. Could you give some insights in this obviously well thought through strategy you are having? And have extensively shared numerous times? As well for the potential new people entering because of the recent positive price action.


What percentage if your bitcoin holdings, perhaps calculated into today's fiat value, did you lose because of having your bitcoins on an exchange or hot wallet (exchange hacks, sim swaps, etc)

versus

Your gains applying this strategy?

I lost more than I gained.

Same here (Considering Mtgox... other than that I gained more).

[bitserve]

I'll interject with something nice. Congrats on your BSV investment, jbreher.

*ducks and runs*

Nobody said jbreher is stupid.

... Well, maybe some did lol

He is wrong though. But it won't matter. He will do well.

[birr]

New bitwise survey. It's nice to see that less people think it's a bubble or a scam, but at the same time more people want regulation which essentially is kinda against idea of bitcoin, like what the hell...

Source

The list is incomplete.  There's at least one more reason:
I am prevented from investing more in crypto because

                            I'M ALL IN

[somac.]

If he truly believes that BSV is better, and right, why hedge?

Because the market can stay irrational longer than I can stay solvent, grasshopper.

That's a bullshit excuse and you know it. And if that is the case at what point do you trade your BCH and Bitcoin holdings over to BSV? Never maybe, because a market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent?

Maybe. Maybe tomorrow. Either way, I'm not going to call to inform you before I do.

I don't want you to inform me, I want you to admit that you don't fully believe in BSV.

Tough shit. That would be a mischaracterization of my position. Which you do not get to dictate.

With every post you try to peddle here about BSV being the correct Bitcoin, you should probably have a disclaimer saying that you also own a significant portion of Bitcoin and BCH. Just to make things clear.

That would be repetitive and redundant.

Repetitive maybe, redundant my ass. You are a scammer that claims BSV is Bitcoin, you defend and encourage BSV at every turn while deriding Bitcoin. Yet you hold significant sums in both BCH and Bitcoin. You are a shill who doesn't practice what he preaches and I'm sure anyone who you encourage to buy into the scammers paradise of BSV would be very interested to know that you don't actually believe it is Satoshi's Bitcoin. Because if you did you would not have large holdings in BCH or BTC.

In summary, when BSV and BCH both claim very aggressively to be Bitcoin and you claim the same, but still hold BCH and Bitcoin you are a damn scammer and shill. End of story.

[jbreher]

Confirmed: Craig Wright doesn’t have keys to $8 billion of Bitcoin
Craig Wright’s lawyer says he didn’t receive the private keys to $8 billion worth of Bitcoin and provides an update on the Dave Kleiman court case.

https://decrypt.co/16998/confirmed-craig-wright-doesnt-have-keys-to-8-billion-of-bitcoin

tl;dr: Craig is royally fucked in about 90 days.

But his lawyer said today that that was not the case.

“The file that he’s received did not include private keys,” Andres Rivero, partner at Rivero Mestre law firm, told Decrypt. However, Wright still expects that he will receive the keys at a later date. Rivero said the keys may come either whole or split into parts, but declined to discuss further the particulars around who has the keys and when they might arrive.

No way! This is a shock! BSVers are jumping off the bridges, markets are going crazy and no one knows how to react to this...oh wait, nope, no one with one brain cell and even jbreher expected Faketoshi to have the keys!

Show me where I ever made that claim.

Fuckin' liar you are, DaRude. Which puts you squarely in the class that you accuse CSW being a member of.

That you shilling BSV because it follows truest implementation of satoshi's code? Or that you claim that it doesn't matter if CSW is Satoshi? Cause it's in like your every other post

The following, you slimy bastahd: "even jbreher expected Faketoshi to have the keys!"

[jbreher]

who fucking cares if what happens to be said about some other topic, such as a shitcoin bsv rises to the level of lies.. It does not matter.  

So you openly admit to lies, and you pile on by stating that lying does not matter. Great. Paragon of virtue, our JJG.