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January 06, 2020, 04:03:34 PM

the real surgical strikes will be when we all have implants in our bodies inserted at birth - or anytime (((they))) want really. then, just need the weapon to target that implants ID. snimple.

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What exactly defines a 'fork'

Bitcoin got forked many times ... not always contentious, but I d say even LTC and ETH are forks - at least from the initial idea - also having lots of Bitcoin's code

Do we give any fucks about those shitcoin projects of LTC and ETH here?  Maybe you are ultimately making the point of the tweet, even if you are trying to convolute the ideas into meaningless drivel, which seems to be your specialty, hv_.

Ultimately there is only one bitcoin and that is where consensus follows whether softfork or hardfork, and really bitcoin hardforks are hardly even existent, so your reference to any kinds of meaningful forks in bitcoin were softforks which allowed consensus to follow or not to follow if the softfork was not voluntarily followed.. which surely could have resulted in a hardfork into an alternative project.

Sure bitcoin might choose to draw from various other projects, whether they are competing visions or whether they are trying out some use cases that are not easily accomplished in bitcoin, so in that regard, there is NOT necessarily any kind of reason to discount possible contributions that come from the wider space that goes beyond bitcoin whether they are misleading and/or attack vector projects or if there happens to be some decent ideas that can be folded into king daddy.
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January 06, 2020, 04:12:36 PM
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What's this $1k bs I'm reading this morning?
Get a grip guys, you're scaring the noobs.

On the other hand, feel like front-running this:



Pee pare ur lil selfies for all scenarios.. even the most extreme.. and even though quite unlikely.

I think that I explained myself in an earlier post.. and yeah even below $4k would really suck.. and even below $5k is seeming pretty damned unlikely, even in a flash crash scenario, like mindrust had mentioned... but still we gotta pee pare our lil selfies for those kinds of seemingly less likely scenarios...... even the newbies....  AmiNOTrite?

And, by the way:   fuck the newbies... they need to grow the fuck up and grow some balls to protect their lil selfies.. put on their big boy pants and big girl panties because neither bitcoin nor we should give too many fucks about their fewings getting a wee bit scardie cats.....

I don't think it's scaring the noobs, they all ran away when $6K was broken, then same deal with $9K level  Tongue Noobs will come back at $10-20K I'd imagine.
If Bitcoin price was a contest in doing something stupid (investing) for as long as possible (dollar cost averaging) - like standing in a ring weighed down, in a pool, touching a vehicle - we'd be on Day 2/3 by comparison I like to think. All the noobs would of already gone, with only the dedicated and hardened participants left.

Maybe I should have said disorienting instead.
When people try to figure out what is BTC, they might get the wrong impressions if they read a discussion about $1k BTC.
Of course the members involved declared no fucking way, but it is my belief that most skip that part and wait for $1kBTC, which naturally will make them buy @$10k-$20k.

Newbies still gotta figure it out.  If they are dumb enough to gamble and NOT to figure out some meaningful strategy then they deserve to lose money.

We cannot be holding hands for dumb fucks who cannot figure out that this is where the BIG boys and girls play.. not for the get rich quick and unable to focus gamblers (even though it is likely that any young peep who develops a decent BTC strategy has great chances of getting rich way the fuck quicker than they would have been able to accomplish through traditional investment means).  Yeah, a lot of the newbies are likely to get REKT through shitcoins, but that is also one way for learning, and there is only so much that any of us can do to protect natural greedy tendencies of people and the snake oil salesmen to be attempting to play off of those newbie vulnerabilities.

Don't conclude that I am cruel, because there is plenty of good information out there, including in this thread, and other places to help to allow regular peeps (including newbies) to figure out some of these matters and to sort the wheat from the chaff in terms of better and more accurate/reliable information (facts and logic) in order to help to create sound strategies, plans and abilities to better understand and to tailor their approach to their own situation rather than relying on some conmen in the shitcoin space.
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January 06, 2020, 04:31:09 PM

Hi WO Thread  Smiley

Maybe somebody can help. Is there an reliable online Service where i can enter my precious/obsolete privkeys to claim BTG & BSV and withdraw for a fee? Once there was freebitcoin.com that worked reliably for BTG, but does look to not work anymore...

Would help  Smiley

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January 06, 2020, 04:33:50 PM

Hi WO Thread  Smiley

Maybe somebody can help. Is there an reliable online Service where i can enter my precious/obsolete privkeys to claim BTG & BSV and withdraw for a fee? Once there was freebitcoin.com that worked reliably for BTG, but does look to not work anymore...

Would help  Smiley

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I used the coinimi android app to get my BTG but that was maybe 2 years ago.

Sold all my BCH so I didn’t get any Pedo/Fraud-Coin (BSV)
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January 06, 2020, 04:38:49 PM

Hi WO Thread  Smiley

Maybe somebody can help. Is there an reliable online Service where i can enter my precious/obsolete privkeys to claim BTG & BSV and withdraw for a fee? Once there was freebitcoin.com that worked reliably for BTG, but does look to not work anymore...

Would help  Smiley

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Not recommending anything, but that was cryptosnake's cup of tea.
https://www.reddit.com/user/cryptosnake
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Hi WO Thread  Smiley

Maybe somebody can help. Is there an reliable online Service where i can enter my precious/obsolete privkeys to claim BTG & BSV and withdraw for a fee? Once there was freebitcoin.com that worked reliably for BTG, but does look to not work anymore...

Would help  Smiley

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I used the coinimi android app to get my BTG but that was maybe 2 years ago.

Sold all my BCH so I didn’t get any Pedo/Fraud-Coin (BSV)

Thanks  Smiley  Android app sounds usable. BSV would be more important ... anybody?
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Hi WO Thread  Smiley

Maybe somebody can help. Is there an reliable online Service where i can enter my precious/obsolete privkeys to claim BTG & BSV and withdraw for a fee? Once there was freebitcoin.com that worked reliably for BTG, but does look to not work anymore...

Would help  Smiley

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Not recommending anything, but that was cryptosnake's cup of tea.
https://www.reddit.com/user/cryptosnake


Will have a look into it. Thanks!
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January 06, 2020, 04:50:48 PM

got stoped out of my short...... weeeeh.

hmm will reassess later.

hope the world will calm down a bit.

cheering for war to pump prices feels wrong.

Yeah... I feel so bad that the world is against you... and peeps are so fucking dumb that they don't understand the negatives of bitcoin, but at least, I have to give you some credit for admitting your dumb and your getting stopped out...


Anyhow, just keep shorting our lil buddy, and sooner or later it is likely to work out for you, as long as you don't go broke in the trying to make money in the wrong direction process... and your ongoing reliance on what "should happen" in your world view that is negative about the power of king daddy....  

Bitcoin needs shorters like you.   Wink

Along with the CME and CBOE instruments that are NOT adequately backed, and in the end going to get totally fucked by their betting against king daddy... at least hopefully.

got stoped out of my short...... weeeeh.

hmm will reassess later.

hope the world will calm down a bit.

cheering for war to pump prices feels wrong.

Nobody is saying or hoping for war .... and surely not as a motivator to pump the price.... even if an instant ATH would mean and require war and unnecessary casualties then NOT 1 (i'm for sure not) of the WO-members would be hoping for it. <--- insane thoughts

But some could discus is there a connection/reaction etc... I honestly don't think there is, but then again who am I... also just a fish not knowing anything.

You're back going short?

I am sure that there are a few perverted fucks who want war in or Armageddon  out of a belief that it is going to help their BTC position, but that seems to be a misinformed, jaded perspective... that is likely the vast minority of WO peeps..... In other words, whiteboy420 is just making shit up when he suggests that there are jaded incentives out there  plotting against his logic in shorting, blah blah blah...  If he was a wee bit smarter, he should not be shorting king daddy anywhooo.
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January 06, 2020, 05:06:59 PM
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^ Gold has barely even moved in DECADES and this guy keeps babbling something about it doing a 40x sometime soon? Is this for real? LOL ^

I have one simple wish: That 2020 is the last year with Bitcoin under $10K.

What do you guys think?

I think 50/50 for "never under $10k after 2020"....


That's pretty informative, helpful and insightful, right?  Predictions of mine, like that, is why some WO peeps have accused me of failing / refusing to take more bold stances in regards to the price direction of bitcoin... hahahahaha...  

Those non-descript wo peeps can go fuck themselves.   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  (surely proclaimed with sufficient levels of endearment, and #nohomo)
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January 06, 2020, 05:21:22 PM

OK, I’m going to throw this out there right now.

Hypothetically -

Bitcoin reaches $500,000 per coin in 2021 but for this to happen you have to agree to not caring if the US go to war with Iran.

Yes - Show me the fucking money

or

No - Think about all the innocent lives that’d be lost
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January 06, 2020, 05:22:31 PM

I would be schocked if anybody here not sitting on atleast $50k $100k profits. Shocked

What is the demographic that you are describing by "anybody"?

You mean WO peeps who have been into bitcoin since before mid 2017?

I believe that there are quite a few WO peeps, even the earlier ones, who are still struggling to be in decent profits in spite of a long time frame to be able to accomplish such, even those who had been involved here before mid 2017. 

Let's say for example, some members were able to put together $10k worth of investment around $2,500 per BTC.  That would still ONLY be 5 BTC, so the profits on paper for that, even though decently good would still only be in the $25k territory (that is $2.5k x 5).  I am sure that there are a lot of variants of that, which causes a decent number of active WO peeps who are currently sitting at actual profits (talking about on paper if they cashed out today) that are less than $50k, even if they got in before mid 2017 and attempted to continue to accumulate and HODL within their budget(s).

But, hey, what do I know beyond speculating about what other peeps do.. and what kinds of cash flow that they might be able to spare in certain real world circumstances....?  I am also thinking that it is difficult as fuck for regular young peeps to even scramble together $10k and to keep such sums invested and not to get distracted into cashing out too much too soon when they see some profits, including seeing 2x or 3x and then spouting out about how smart they are for making 2x to 3x profits.. I know a quite a few smart people who have acted in that direction, even when I attempted to coach them on better and longer term strategies and NOT to gamble on their holdings way more than they should be doing..... Regular peeps just seem inclined to gamble and inclined to "know more than their own good" because they tend to value their wealth in dollars rather than BTC (so do not really seem to appreciate the value of accumulating BTC)... So, even relatively smart peeps have difficulties really and truly establishing sound long term (rather than short term) BTC accumulation strategies.
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OK, I’m going to throw this out there right now.

It's a big fat no for me.

The only way I'd give a yes is to spend the gains on a pan global hit squad to torture to death all the politicians and religious leaders responsible for the suffering of real people.
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OK, I’m going to throw this out there right now.

Hypothetically -

Bitcoin reaches $500,000 per coin in 2021 but for this to happen you have to agree to not caring if the US go to war with Iran.

Yes - Show me the fucking money

or

No - Think about all the innocent lives that’d be lost

"but for this to happen you have to agree to not caring if the US go to war with Iran."

Ithought US is in cold/hot war with persia for avery long time, know  Undecided

"Bitcoin reaches $500,000 per coin in 2021"

Pretty sure that a price "close to this will be reached" ... What about BTC reaching 3.1M$ by mid jan 2027 Huh without any open WAR  Smiley      just an estimate Wink (maybe half of this, maybe double of the 3.1M$ ... yeah halving is a bitch ...

Greetings to the WO thread!


Edit: "mid jan 2027"  ... more close to mid Jan 2026 ... whatever  Cheesy
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got stoped out of my short...... weeeeh.

hmm will reassess later.

hope the world will calm down a bit.

cheering for war to pump prices feels wrong.

Yeah... I feel so bad that the world is against you... and peeps are so fucking dumb that they don't understand the negatives of bitcoin, but at least, I have to give you some credit for admitting your dumb and your getting stopped out...


Anyhow, just keep shorting our lil buddy, and sooner or later it is likely to work out for you, as long as you don't go broke in the trying to make money in the wrong direction process... and your ongoing reliance on what "should happen" in your world view that is negative about the power of king daddy....  

Bitcoin needs shorters like you.   Wink

Along with the CME and CBOE instruments that are NOT adequately backed, and in the end going to get totally fucked by their betting against king daddy... at least hopefully.

got stoped out of my short...... weeeeh.

hmm will reassess later.

hope the world will calm down a bit.

cheering for war to pump prices feels wrong.

Nobody is saying or hoping for war .... and surely not as a motivator to pump the price.... even if an instant ATH would mean and require war and unnecessary casualties then NOT 1 (i'm for sure not) of the WO-members would be hoping for it. <--- insane thoughts

But some could discus is there a connection/reaction etc... I honestly don't think there is, but then again who am I... also just a fish not knowing anything.

You're back going short?

I am sure that there are a few perverted fucks who want war in or Armageddon  out of a belief that it is going to help their BTC position, but that seems to be a misinformed, jaded perspective... that is likely the vast minority of WO peeps..... In other words, whiteboy420 is just making shit up when he suggests that there are jaded incentives out there  plotting against his logic in shorting, blah blah blah...  If he was a wee bit smarter, he should not be shorting king daddy anywhooo.




can't believe i just read an entire JJG post.

do i have to remind u of the price performance since 30.11.2019 ?


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January 06, 2020, 06:14:51 PM

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214437.0
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I'm still amazed a few of the amazing HAT-company-WO-thread are not on that damned list

for example... our very own headmaster, the little pony, r0ach <-- Tongue and so on

Though what would the nazi guess ?? and what TA, share of thought would he provide??  Roll Eyes


Still a few days to participate

What the hell. $14,669. Just a SWAG. And no, you don't need to enter me in the contest.
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214437.0
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I'm still amazed a few of the amazing HAT-company-WO-thread are not on that damned list

for example... our very own headmaster, the little pony, r0ach <-- Tongue and so on

Though what would the nazi guess ?? and what TA, share of thought would he provide??  Roll Eyes


Still a few days to participate

What the hell. $14,669. Just a SWAG. And no, you don't need to enter me in the contest.

4204 $ if u were so kind to include me.

u can keep the prize money i make mine in the order books.

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January 06, 2020, 06:27:45 PM

the real surgical strikes will be when we all have implants in our bodies inserted at birth - or anytime (((they))) want really. then, just need the weapon to target that implants ID. snimple.

implants not needed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CO6M2HsoIA

yeah saw that a while back. looks kinda contrived... firing live autonomous target seeking munitions in an auditorium full of people. uuuh, ok.

unless it was meant to be a "demo" or something. just gave a quick look.

but the premise is sound. those things will be around. if they arent already..
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January 06, 2020, 06:32:03 PM

So from an investment standpoint, the growing wave into cryptocurrency will provide the investment opportunity of a lifetime. Its the perfect storm...it combines the seemingly universal dislike of government intervention to prop up highly overvalued stock markets so the rich get richer while the working person cannot get a decent raise, with the also seemingly universal desire to keep the internet free and beyond the clutches of government regulation. It gets rid of these dastardly Central Banks that have done nothing to help anyone but that same wealthy one percent that benefits from zero percent interest rates, and individuals love the perceived strength that a currency freed from government entanglement means to a free world. Everyone sees the nirvana, but hardly anyone understands the devastation that deflation has on a world so over-leveraged on debt.
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https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6emfq6/an_incredible_comment_about_bitcoin_from_a/

Probably realistic. OTOH, you know that TPTB will blame us for the cataclysm. And they have a well-developed propaganda apparatus. Could get ugly.

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