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[Last of the V8s]

https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1223337991168380928?s=20


Trevor says it ain't exactly AIDS

[marcus_of_augustus]

don't want to be alarmist but .... if you are following the virus news you need to watch this.
https://www.peakprosperity.com/new-coronavirus-ro-of-4-1-massive-contagion-risk/

... one of the authors of the paper reviewed here is PLA (People's Liberation Army, aka chinese military), so one of two possibilities, he's a renegade speaking truth to power and believes these numbers are correct OR this paper is officially sanctioned info Chinese military wants to get out there to help the world.

Shit just got way worse if these numbers translate to spreads outside of china and that's not certain since asian culture has very crowded conditions and abysmal hygiene standards, (spitting everywhere, uncovered sneezes, hacking, washing hands infrequently, etc)

tl;dr
R_o ~ 4.1
Lethality ~ 6.9%
Only way to control is complete lockdown, shelter in place orders.
Get informed.

[Raja_MBZ]

BREAKING: Spain confirms first case of coronavirus

When Africa?

[HairyMaclairy]

There is no real evidence to date that Coronavirus is a threat to anyone other than the immune compromised (which are under threat from everything).  

On that basis I am not that fussed.  


In 2017, there were 250,000 cases and 2,000 deaths from influenza in Australia.  So Coronavirus has some work to do to catch up to that.  

[Biodom]

If it is man-made (HIV like sequences giving a possible hint) then I hope world would demand an answer and have consequences for the perps.

This is of note:

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.26.919985v1.full

2019-nCov was reported to share the same receptor, Angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2), with SARS-Cov.

In addition, the distribution of ACE2 is also more widespread in male donors than females: at least 5 different types of cells in male lung express this receptor, while only 2~4 types of cells in female lung express the receptor. This result is highly consistent with the epidemic investigation showing that most of the confirmed 2019-nCov infected patients were men (30 vs. 11, by Jan 2, 2020).

We also noticed that the only Asian donor (male) has a much higher ACE2-expressing cell ratio than white and African American donors (2.50% vs. 0.47% of all cells). This might explain the observation that the new Coronavirus pandemic and previous SARS-Cov pandemic are concentrated in the Asian area.

So, chances to avoid it (from the paper) are better (so far) for White/African American females, then White/AA males, then Asian females, then Asian males.

[marcus_of_augustus]

https://harvardtothebighouse.com/2020/01/31/logistical-and-technical-analysis-of-the-origins-of-the-wuhan-coronavirus-2019-ncov/

It considers whether the Wuhan Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) is a naturally emergent strain against the possibility that it may be a bio-engineered strain meant for defensive immunotherapy protocols that was released into the public, most likely by accident – China’s rate of occupational accidents is about ten-times higher than America’s, and some twenty-times more than Europe, the only other regions with high-level virology labs. Additionally, Beijing has had four known accidental leaks of the SARS virus in recent years.

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Early research found that this coronavirus targets the ACE2 receptor, which is found in Asians at roughly five-times the rate of other global populations, indicating that 2019-nCoV was likely in development as part of a defensive project possibly linked to immunotherapy, not as an offensive weapon since the virus is likely wired to be much more virulent among Asian populations. Further support for this is the fact that the Wuhan lab was already actively looking into the risks posed from bat coronaviruses, and by the fact there was pending research at the Wuhan BSL-4 lab into coronavirus treatments– by definition doing this would require live virulent strains of coronavirus to use to test the treatment regimes against.

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[marcus_of_augustus]

There is no real evidence to date that Coronavirus is a threat to anyone other than the immune compromised (which are under threat from everything).  

On that basis I am not that fussed.  


In 2017, there were 250,000 cases and 2,000 deaths from influenza in Australia.  So Coronavirus has some work to do to catch up to that.  

... respectfully, you're dreaming, if you actually believe any of that.

[HairyMaclairy]

Let’s wait to see if healthy people in the West actually start dying.  Because they aren’t so far.

[jojo69]

and when they do...what then?  the barn door will be open

[marcus_of_augustus]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/01/31/inside-wuhan-dead-man-lies-empty-streets-coronavirus-ground/ (paywalled)

A grey-haired man lies dead on the pavement, plastic bag in hand, face mask on.

His cause of death and identity remain unclear, but the authorities in the Chinese city of Wuhan - ground zero for the coronavirus outbreak that the World Health Organisation has now classed a global emergency - are not taking any chances.

As rare passersby on the city's empty streets hurry past the grim scene, not daring to stop, a team of police and medical staff in full body protection arrive and take the body away.

... I wonder if the dead that are being left outside homes are counted in the official death toll? Or just those die in 'official' circumstances?

[marcus_of_augustus]

Let’s wait to see if healthy people in the West actually start dying.  Because they aren’t so far.

... sounds like you are volunteering to meet the incoming Wuhan flights with information pamphlets? 

[gentlemand]

I cannae tell whether more people on this thread will die from disappointment if it's successfully contained and burns out or if the disease runs riot and finishes them off in unimaginable horror.

I'm guessing it'll be somewhere around the same.

[jojo69]

A few years ago I'd have been rooting for it but honestly, I'm getting a little old for the apocalypse.

It is a young mans game, and my leather pants just don't fit like they used to.

[Biodom]

I cannae tell whether more people on this thread will die from disappointment if it's successfully contained and burns out or if the disease runs riot and finishes them off in unimaginable horror.

I'm guessing it'll be somewhere around the same.

I wonder how did you arrive at this conclusion?
I don't see anybody cheering for the disease.

Guys, enough dying for today. This is not a death-observer thread.

btc declined too, but not much, GBTC lost a bit of the premium.
btc actually outperformed most other cryptos.
People were talking about bargains before. It does not feel like buying at the moment.

[Raja_MBZ]

Guys, enough dying for today. This is not a death-observer thread.

[Indymoney]

Guys, enough dying for today. This is not a death-observer thread.

Good need to change topic as its bitcoin forum not death forum

[Dunkelheit667]

The monthly update:



The most exciting January since 2014 and a good start in 2020. DCAing still feels comfortable.

However, as some of you gentlemen already pointed out, its nothing like the good old days. I remember times when you came home after work, turned on the GPU Miner for a few hours and of course shut it down before your HODLsleep because of the electricity bill. After this the FPGAs ran 24/7 and you electricitybill went down. The ASICs got a bit boring, too stable for my liking and even the brother-in-law's grandmother had one. Back to the present day... you invest what you can afford by simply buying the corn. Times are changing, as the amount of corn you can accumulate during a specific time frame. Just checked my books and it looks like three days of casual GPU mining are now equal to one month of slavery. Note to myself: when you have to work one year for the same amount, take a longer break from slavery.

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At least we are learning some German culture in all of this, so there is that.... little side benefit.  
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No offense, but this sentence is based on so many misconceptions, I don't know where to start. Would be a topic for a separate thread.

For an attempt at clarification, I was NOT at all striving to be disrespectful to German culture or to really say anything about German culture at all except to facetiously respond to what I considered to be the various nonsensical points that Gyrsur was increasingly excitedly spouting about.  

Maybe I should have placed a #nohomo tag in there somewhere in order to indicate that my comments were NOT intended as any kind of literally serious assertion about substance?

Please keep providing you monthly updates.........   #nohomo.....  

I appreciate your answer very much and was unfortunately not able to answer in a timely manner due to a lack of... time. Since the subject is already history, just to clarify, Gyrsur had one or two interesting points, which he might have articulated a bit puzzling and rude. Like the charts, German culture also seems to be changing. To be able to discuss this, it would be necessary to define what German culture was or is. Anyway, as a German, I don't attach much importance to this controversial "culture" topic, try to respect the past, live in the present and hope for the future. It is much more revealing to provide the monthly update than to discuss cultural mental states. We are Satoshi.

Gentlemen, have a great February!

[jojo69]

So guys, this is cool;

sirazimuth just merited my Neil Peart eulogy from a couple weeks ago pushing me to

2112

merit.  I'm not even sure if he planned it that way...

[lightfoot]

Well here we go: Who is going to grab Mario's Lambo? I've driven with him, and he is a very safe driver....

https://www.motorious.com/articles/news/306594/mario-andretti-lamborghini-diablo/

[El duderino_]

So guys, this is cool;

sirazimuth just merited my Neil Peart eulogy from a couple weeks ago pushing me to

2112

merit.  I'm not even sure if he planned it that way...

Whatever dude, I’m planning different