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They get an Ewok civet cat in the face ?

I don't know what that is but I just added one.

And this is how Granny receives her morning tea from now on.



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https://www.cdc.gov/sars/media/civet-ban.html
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We need a flipping China ban that's what we need.
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We need a flipping China ban that's what we need.

Already done

https://www.forbes.com/sites/willhorton1/2020/01/26/china-bans-outbound-group-travel-airline-impacts-vary-as-wuhans-novel-coronavirus-tackled/
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I imagine that you, Jimbo, have cashed out a few paper wallets in the past couple of years for their BTC.  What do you do about the BCH and BSV?  Do you cash them out separately?  Or you just save those paper wallets in order to cash the BCH and/or BCH at a later date?

Whenever I sweep a cold storage address, I mark it and save it.

It's part laziness and part hedging my bets, just in case the forkcoins ever amount to anything.

The bulk of my cold storage is offsite with difficult accessibility (for $5 wrench reasons). My most recent sweeps have been of post-fork addresses so there are no altcoins to worry about anyway. Accessing my old coins to harvest a few shitcoins is too much trouble and potential risk.

I never got emotionally involved in the block-size wars so it wasn't anything other than a gift got me.

First mover status and critical mass are more important for me and Bitcoin has them.

That's fair enough.  I understand that there can be some possible issues with moving coins, whether it is security or privacy or just inconvenience, and of course, no one really should want to trade off with either security or privacy to get some of the dividends of the other coins, and it seems that bcash and bcashSV have reached the highest dollar values, so far (and then highest BTC values, too, which still might not be worth it).

I have some considerations of mistakes/problems with my combining of addresses that had resulted from my claiming some of those shitcoins, too; although on the positive side, I do feel that I had learned a bit more about moving coins and even some of the dynamics of moving coins by claiming some of those shitcoins....


by the way, I doubt that I had ever owned any BSV because I believe that I had largely gotten rid of all of my BCH by the time of the 11/2018 BSV split.  The only BCH that I would have had would have been through coins that are held on either compromised exchanges or compromised wallet addresses... and I have my doubt about ever getting access to any of those addresses or private keys, so it could well be the most accurate assessment of my situation that I don't own any BSV and never will  own any BSV (never plan to, unless such shitcoin were to become the next bitcoin... hahahahaha  God (or Buddah, or Muhammad)  save us from something like that... I should not even mention such level of dumb.. otherwise I might become guilty of the same dumb, by association?   Cry Cry  )
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Ah this is what these distractions like Kobe and the bat pox are about https://www.wsj.com/articles/fed-officials-weigh-new-recession-fighting-tool-capping-treasury-yields-11580050800
https://archive.is/OD3gA
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well duhh
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Sure, that was 2013 and without the - justHodl, SoV is only left over from the original idea and Satoshi White Paper.


Now btc IS just more Ponzi than ever, thx to kicking out all the business (remember the 2x UASF shit show?)


Im happy BSV - Bitcoin is back on track

Make a BSV-wall Observer thread and please get lost in there ..... we can perfectly be functional whiteout you in here

Be gone be silent, leave BTC out of your writing and focus creating a thread for “your kind of people”

I just moved a legacy address bitcoin core to another address. I think Monday I'm gonna flush all the forks off of that paper wallet of BSV/BCH or whatever. At the 'now-price'

that is equivalent to 7.055 BTC-Core. This is after 15% cap gains and 10% state tax in the USA. Should have done this much sooner...but I think it is now or never time. I'm so

invested in BTC-Core that if this is a 'mistake' it won't matter much compared to a BTC-Core implosion. So going for it. But nice score regardless in that these BTC

only exist I will get from 'dubious' forks of BTC-Core. So taking the 'sensible' approach now. (If I believe in a pump in 2020 due to having).

Strategy = "Run Away, Run Away" Smiley

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right here and now, i would just cash it out and 'diworsify', maybe even into T-bills.
Not sure if buying btc here is the right move short term. Long term-of course, yes.

You are probably correct but every BTC I've ever spent has come back to haunt my ass. Panic'd like a small 9-year-old girl (with screams) when I sold 13 BTC last year on

12/24/19 when BTC was $3,965.00 USD. Groan! I managed to thru dumb luck equipment sales and such to get back 4 BTC from such. But it really sucks. So yeah, its a gift, my

ability to sell at the wrong time or get 'dubious' ASIC equipment. The above wallet is NOT my hoard however, just what was emptied to add to such Hoard in 1 address.

I know, I'm probably an Idiot...Bitcoin you 'merciless bitch' but setting myself up for 'heartbreak' is how we roll on this romance.

I swear I'd have better odds on when to sell and how much flipping a coin with likely a lot less 'angst". As it is every decision I make on buy/sell/hodl BTC is by a 'decision'...thus

if wrong it's my 'fault'. I should just leave it all to chance, again, less angst. But for now in full HODL mode (until the next time I use my 'superpower' skills to sell at the low and

shriek like a 9-year-old yet again). Rinse/Wash/Repeat. As you can see my 'strategy' is very sophisticated, don't ya know. Smiley

So like 5 out of 5 selling BTC at the wrong time and never to recover vs HODL mode (soothing). So yeah, I got 'issues' with BTC your merciless bitch!
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yeah

we're fucked

We've been that way since the day we were born. It was always rigged. Sad
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yeah

we're fucked

We've been that way since the day we were born. It was always rigged. Sad

True. Just watched the movie "The Color of Space". It brought back that good old Lovecraft feeling that nothing you do matters, that love will not save you, science will not save you faith will not save you, actions will not save you. You will only be saved by random capricious fate.

I'll have wonderful nightmares when I go to sleep later today.
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looks like the war and pestilence trade is still on
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I see there are a lot of idiots with stupid messages about Kobe.
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Sure, that was 2013 and without the - justHodl, SoV is only left over from the original idea and Satoshi White Paper.


Now btc IS just more Ponzi than ever, thx to kicking out all the business (remember the 2x UASF shit show?)


Im happy BSV - Bitcoin is back on track

Make a BSV-wall Observer thread and please get lost in there ..... we can perfectly be functional whiteout you in here

Be gone be silent, leave BTC out of your writing and focus creating a thread for “your kind of people”

I just moved a legacy address bitcoin core to another address. I think Monday I'm gonna flush all the forks off of that paper wallet of BSV/BCH or whatever. At the 'now-price'

that is equivalent to 7.055 BTC-Core. This is after 15% cap gains and 10% state tax in the USA. Should have done this much sooner...but I think it is now or never time. I'm so

invested in BTC-Core that if this is a 'mistake' it won't matter much compared to a BTC-Core implosion. So going for it. But nice score regardless in that these BTC

only exist I will get from 'dubious' forks of BTC-Core. So taking the 'sensible' approach now. (If I believe in a pump in 2020 due to having).

Strategy = "Run Away, Run Away" Smiley

Brad


right here and now, i would just cash it out and 'diworsify', maybe even into T-bills.
Not sure if buying btc here is the right move short term. Long term-of course, yes.

You are probably correct but every BTC I've ever spent has come back to haunt my ass. Panic'd like a small 9-year-old girl (with screams) when I sold 13 BTC last year on

12/24/19 when BTC was $3,965.00 USD. Groan! I managed to thru dumb luck equipment sales and such to get back 4 BTC from such. But it really sucks. So yeah, its a gift, my

ability to sell at the wrong time or get 'dubious' ASIC equipment. The above wallet is NOT my hoard however, just what was emptied to add to such Hoard in 1 address.

I know, I'm probably an Idiot...Bitcoin you 'merciless bitch' but setting myself up for 'heartbreak' is how we roll on this romance.

I swear I'd have better odds on when to sell and how much flipping a coin with likely a lot less 'angst". As it is every decision I make on buy/sell/hodl BTC is by a 'decision'...thus

if wrong it's my 'fault'. I should just leave it all to chance, again, less angst. But for now in full HODL mode (until the next time I use my 'superpower' skills to sell at the low and

shriek like a 9-year-old yet again). Rinse/Wash/Repeat. As you can see my 'strategy' is very sophisticated, don't ya know. Smiley

So like 5 out of 5 selling BTC at the wrong time and never to recover vs HODL mode (soothing). So yeah, I got 'issues' with BTC your merciless bitch!

Seems good to me that you are attempting to grapple with your past moments of weakness, Searing, in order to attempt to avoid falling into similar mistakes in the future.  

It also seems like a decent plan to cash out some, if not all of your BCH and BSV now, while those shitcoins are on a recent rise, relative to BTC, which causes you to get more value for them in terms of BTC.  Sure, maybe you could get more BTC per BCH and/or BSV in the future, but seems doubtful that either of those shitcoins have any kind of meaningful future value.  

Systematically each of them continue to carry out so many seemingly greedy (self-dealing) implementations on an ongoing basis to show their desperation and inabilities to not engage in self-dealings.  Take BCH with its recent announcement of a 12.5% mining tax, and BSV with its ongoing love/hate relationship with CSW..

Their days surely seem numbered in terms of being able to sustain any kind of meaningful value and/or sustainable pumpementals of either of those shitcoins.  

We will see, we will see, and even if either or both of those shitty-ass projects were to get pumpened more in terms of their BTC value, it still should not hurt to transition most if not all of the value into king daddy.. which still likely has a good price trajectory in the next 1-2 years.... sure a bitcoin exponential price rise could get drug out longer than 2 years which would cause the four-year fractal and perhaps even the stock to flow model to seem like it might be strained or not working... but seems more likely that we are to see some kind of meaningful and strong BTC break upwards in the coming 1-2 years, and yeah it is even possible that a front-running of such exponential BTC price rise could happen.. less likely, but surely possible.

For you, Searing, if you are striving to NOT be forced to sell as much BTC in the future at inopportune times, it may be good for you to shave off a little bit of profits at various strategic BTC price points, such as shaving off 5% of your BTC value every 30% rise.  

Of course, you could tweak such a plan to take out more profits or to take out less or to change the increments of withdrawal, but sometimes it is good to take some BTC profits along the way, in order that you are less likely to have as many inopportune future panic experiences.

I remember that you had stated that you had a goal of $11,111, and maybe it would be o.k. to wait for that BTC price point before starting to shave off some of your profits..   I understand that you are overall "in profits" and you are both inclined to shave off profits, and you will still be doing quite well, even if you don't shave off a lot of profits.

But a shaving of 5% of profits at every 30% rise would look something like the below chart, and still set you up quite well for a price rise to $500k or more, if such a price rise were to happen.  For ease of calculation in the below chart, I used 10 BTC as our starting point, but of course, you could plug in any number of BTC into such a formula in order to see where you would be at, at various hypothetical BTC price points that could happen this cycle or maybe in the next 4 year cycle, perhaps?  Either way, you would be shaving off a decent amount of profits that you could use for yearly expenses or you could fold some of that back into BTC, in the event of an unexpected price drop along the way... but either way, you should be able to have enough dollars and bitcoin in order to be prepared for either BTC price direction... or even panic a little in the middle (without harming your portfolio as much because your panic would be more contained within an already existing tentatively acceptable plan that you tailored to yourself ahead of time).

Increment%   30.00%         Amount to sell%   5.00%   
   
   Sell Price         BTC balance      BTCSellamt   $ValueHoldings   soldValue   soldTotal
   $11,111.00   10.00000000      0.50000000   $111,110.00        $5,555.50        $5,555.50
   $14,444.30   9.50000000      0.47500000   $137,220.85        $6,861.04        $12,416.54
   $18,777.59   9.02500000      0.45125000   $169,467.75        $8,473.39        $20,889.93
   $24,410.87   8.57375000      0.42868750   $209,292.67        $10,464.63        $31,354.56
   $31,734.13   8.14506250      0.40725313   $258,476.45        $12,923.82        $44,278.39
   $41,254.37   7.73780938      0.38689047   $319,218.41        $15,960.92        $60,239.31
   $53,630.67   7.35091891      0.36754595   $394,234.74        $19,711.74        $79,951.04
   $69,719.88   6.98337296      0.34916865   $486,879.91        $24,344.00        $104,295.04
   $90,635.84   6.63420431      0.33171022   $601,296.68        $30,064.83        $134,359.87
   $117,826.59   6.30249410      0.31512470   $742,601.40        $37,130.07        $171,489.94
   $153,174.57   5.98736939      0.29936847   $917,112.73        $45,855.64        $217,345.58
   $199,126.94   5.68800092      0.28440005   $1,132,634.23        $56,631.71        $273,977.29
   $258,865.02   5.40360088      0.27018004   $1,398,803.27        $69,940.16        $343,917.45
   $336,524.53   5.13342083      0.25667104   $1,727,522.04        $86,376.10        $430,293.56
   $437,481.89   4.87674979      0.24383749   $2,133,489.72        $106,674.49        $536,968.04
   $568,726.46   4.63291230      0.23164562   $2,634,859.80        $131,742.99        $668,711.03
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Well... I just came across a post on Twitter, and now I have a better understanding of how and why China is a breeding ground for cross-species viruses.

*WARNING: NOT SAFE FOR LIFE*
Chinese guy eating live baby mice in a restaurant.

Do not click this link unless you want to be sad and disgusted. Intentionally used 1pt font size to make it more difficult to click.
https://twitter.com/Eljaboom/status/1221668016263434240

I seriously don't want to live on this planet any more.



Jeez, that’s disgusting  Shocked
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Increment%   30.00%         Amount to sell%   5.00%   
   
   Sell Price         BTC balance      BTCSellamt   $ValueHoldings   soldValue   soldTotal
   $11,111.00   10.00000000      0.50000000   $111,110.00        $5,555.50        $5,555.50
   $14,444.30   9.50000000      0.47500000   $137,220.85        $6,861.04        $12,416.54
   $18,777.59   9.02500000      0.45125000   $169,467.75        $8,473.39        $20,889.93
   $24,410.87   8.57375000      0.42868750   $209,292.67        $10,464.63        $31,354.56
   $31,734.13   8.14506250      0.40725313   $258,476.45        $12,923.82        $44,278.39
   $41,254.37   7.73780938      0.38689047   $319,218.41        $15,960.92        $60,239.31
   $53,630.67   7.35091891      0.36754595   $394,234.74        $19,711.74        $79,951.04
   $69,719.88   6.98337296      0.34916865   $486,879.91        $24,344.00        $104,295.04
   $90,635.84   6.63420431      0.33171022   $601,296.68        $30,064.83        $134,359.87
   $117,826.59   6.30249410      0.31512470   $742,601.40        $37,130.07        $171,489.94
   $153,174.57   5.98736939      0.29936847   $917,112.73        $45,855.64        $217,345.58
   $199,126.94   5.68800092      0.28440005   $1,132,634.23        $56,631.71        $273,977.29
   $258,865.02   5.40360088      0.27018004   $1,398,803.27        $69,940.16        $343,917.45
   $336,524.53   5.13342083      0.25667104   $1,727,522.04        $86,376.10        $430,293.56
   $437,481.89   4.87674979      0.24383749   $2,133,489.72        $106,674.49        $536,968.04
   $568,726.46   4.63291230      0.23164562   $2,634,859.80        $131,742.99        $668,711.03

I think I have a problem with this strategy, at $70-90k I would rather try to squeeze more FIAT out of my btc than waiting for a higher price because this range will likely be the next ATH. (debatable)

I would also never sell anything till it reaches above the last ATH so selling at $11k, 14k, 18k and even 24k is just throwing your money away. (this is pretty much not debatable for me) From those price points btc may go down again and create an opportunity to buy back more bitcoins but, is it worth it?

You should sell your btc only when it is worth it. At $11k? It is definitely not.

I would start dumping a bit more % but also start doing it when it goes above $30k. Till then I would keep DCA'ing. My DCA amount would go lower and lower while the price climbing up but I would still keep buying.
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I seriously don't want to live on this planet any more.

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Well... I just came across a post on Twitter, and now I have a better understanding of how and why China is a breeding ground for cross-species viruses.

*WARNING: NOT SAFE FOR LIFE*
Chinese guy eating live baby mice in a restaurant.

Do not click this link unless you want to be sad and disgusted. Intentionally used 1pt font size to make it more difficult to click.
https://twitter.com/Eljaboom/status/1221668016263434240

I seriously don't want to live on this planet any more.



https://twitter.com/rnr_0/status/1221445001806217217?s=21

Saw something weird as well what they eat.....
Though I guess not all will be the same....
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