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January 29, 2020, 06:50:17 PM


this level currently does have some impact on the way above because it's the 38.2% retracement from the ATH at $19666 (100.0%) down to 2018 AYL at $3122.3 (0.0%). it's the biggest picture if you zoom out and should have also the most importance.


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What is the significance of 38.2% (or inversely 61.8%) retracement?  That 38.2% would be $7,500-ish, right?  Unless you are talking about $12,153 as 38.2% retracement from our $19,666 ATH of 3 years ago?

Currently, aren't we just below 50% retracement, referring to our $9,360-ish price?

I am all for considering getting back to ATH prices, but seems a bit further off, or at least we gotta get past a couple of the more local highs that could provide some resistance in the $10k arena, in the $12k arena and then in the $14k arena... I kind of suspect currently that if we get above $14k, then the next resistance would be approximately in the $17,500 arena.... and maybe even a bit below that.. like $17,200-ish... but besides $300, what is the difference of $17,500 and $17,200 amongst speculator wannabes?
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January 29, 2020, 06:59:17 PM

Another bull flag move to $9,800 looks possible this evening, even if my gut feeling is for some more consolidation/correction before higher highs.



Also, an analyst I follow closely as they do incredible analysis of many different indicators and perspectives, is now calling for a $11,500 target, based on a measured move of a larger cup & handle pattern that has confirmed. Personally I'm not a fan of these patterns, but I do trust this analysts judgement they them claiming it has confirmed:

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/K6uXzD2w-Cup-Handle-Confirms-Daily-Golden-Cross-Expected-to-Follow/

And I thought I was bullish by calling for $10K this week  Tongue

Either way, it's best not to bet against (short) these parabolic moves in my opinion, it's like trying to cycle in gale force winds ie going against the grain.



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January 29, 2020, 07:18:40 PM
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SEC Tells Telegram Its Crypto Is Worth Less Than Donuts

https://cointelegraph.com/news/sec-tells-telegram-its-crypto-is-worth-less-than-donuts

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January 29, 2020, 07:22:22 PM


 
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When the dude can’t resist

 From the looks of the pavement below his feet, at least one of us might survive this outbreak should it go full epidemic.


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January 29, 2020, 07:40:37 PM

Do we really want to send them to coinbase? I understood they've been naughty in assisting agressive nutrino chainalyasis/analytic tactics.

Genuinely curious. What _exactly_ do you think they are doing to aid chainalysis? Divulging private customer data?

First things come out of my mind:

Doing chain analyisis on all the trades you do before funding deposit/ after funds withdrawal. Coinbase: the Neutrino scandal and the #DeleteCoinbase campaign

Okay... from the article: "hypothetical activity". Got any evidence that they are divulging any such data?
Also from the article: "CoinBase marketing manager Christine Sandler said:
“It was important for us to migrate away from our current providers. They were selling client data to outside sources..."
So they were able to move from an external provider who they knew was selling customer data to others, and bring that function in-house, by purchasing an existing vendor if such services, who they can now control. Perhaps stopping such sale of customer data.
Yes, that's provocative. But rather than a net negative for privacy, it could be a net positive. Again, what evidence exists for your speculated nefarious activity?

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In case you haven't any fund, they provide you funds to mess with (in the hope you eventually do stupid things like  consolidate them with your big stash) read: Dust Attack, what it is, why it is dangerous and how to prevent falling to it

Yes. Dust attack has been known since years. Evidence Coinbase is misusing these small bonuses? I mean, such could be perfectly explained by a simple enticement to garner new customers. Much as banks used to offer a free toaster for opening an account.

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Selling those data to government agencies

Again... evidence?

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Inspiring other Bad actors to follow the same vicious path. Read: #deletePaxos

'Inspiring'? OK. I guess. But not (e.g.) Binance, right?

I don't deny you have some scattered facts upon which to start to build such a case. But from what I have seen your evidence, it falls woefully short of being convincing that they are involved in any nefarious activity. Got anything more conclusive?


Ever notice that jbreher is never too slow to defend bad actors in the space?

Wonder why?

Stolfi, is that you?

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January 29, 2020, 07:43:55 PM

Do we really want to send them to coinbase? I understood they've been naughty in assisting agressive nutrino chainalyasis/analytic tactics.

Genuinely curious. What _exactly_ do you think they are doing to aid chainalysis? Divulging private customer data?

First things come out of my mind:

Doing chain analyisis on all the trades you do before funding deposit/ after funds withdrawal. Coinbase: the Neutrino scandal and the #DeleteCoinbase campaign

Okay... from the article: "hypothetical activity". Got any evidence that they are divulging any such data?
Also from the article: "CoinBase marketing manager Christine Sandler said:
“It was important for us to migrate away from our current providers. They were selling client data to outside sources..."
So they were able to move from an external provider who they knew was selling customer data to others, and bring that function in-house, by purchasing an existing vendor if such services, who they can now control. Perhaps stopping such sale of customer data.
Yes, that's provocative. But rather than a net negative for privacy, it could be a net positive. Again, what evidence exists for your speculated nefarious activity?

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In case you haven't any fund, they provide you funds to mess with (in the hope you eventually do stupid things like  consolidate them with your big stash) read: Dust Attack, what it is, why it is dangerous and how to prevent falling to it

Yes. Dust attack has been known since years. Evidence Coinbase is misusing these small bonuses? I mean, such could be perfectly explained by a simple enticement to garner new customers. Much as banks used to offer a free toaster for opening an account.

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Selling those data to government agencies

Again... evidence?

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Inspiring other Bad actors to follow the same vicious path. Read: #deletePaxos

'Inspiring'? OK. I guess. But not (e.g.) Binance, right?

I don't deny you have some scattered facts upon which to start to build such a case. But from what I have seen your evidence, it falls woefully short of being convincing that they are involved in any nefarious activity. Got anything more conclusive?


Ever notice that jbreher is never too slow to defend bad actors in the space?

Wonder why?

Stolfi, is that you?

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Yeah. Roll Eyes
Wondering why he's taken offence to the point he felt it necessary to defend.
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January 29, 2020, 07:47:23 PM

Another bull flag move to $9,800 looks possible this evening, even if my gut feeling is for some more consolidation/correction before higher highs.

Preserve your gut within its current status, even if it feels a bit uncomfortable for you, on a personal level...

In other words, take one for the team... we don't want anymore bear calls from you... NONE....

You will thank me later.

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January 29, 2020, 08:01:36 PM

Another bull flag move to $9,800 looks possible this evening, even if my gut feeling is for some more consolidation/correction before higher highs.

Preserve your gut within its current status, even if it feels a bit uncomfortable for you, on a personal level...

In other words, take one for the team... we don't want anymore bear calls from you... NONE....

You will thank me later.

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Bears are part of the game. I am still not all in.

Can I order a flash crash to $5500 please?
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January 29, 2020, 08:05:48 PM

Seems to me that you are referring to a few important principles that any investor into bitcoin needs to keep in mind,

So the principles that you seem to be suggesting in regards to bitcoin would be 1) don't invest any more than you can afford to lose, 2) live within your means and 3) attempt to build your BTC portfolio over time - without trying to rush it with too many risky practices.

Regarding getting these kinds of returns with any other investment, I don't really buy that.. and again, did I say fuck alt coins?  

I never mentioned altcoins. That would be something else personally. In fact, I do not ever invest into altcoins, I merely get paid in them, so all my altcoins (or most of them) were earned.

The important principles are those that have long been said in the traditional fiat investing world which include what you said and bunch of others, eventually anyone long enough in the space should figure out or learn the hard way.

Stuff about SWR, compounded interest, dollar cost averaging, being consistent ... be that, if you act like you are investing for your retirement like a lot of other people would using low fee index funds or something close to a total stock market fund, VTSAX or BlackRock's equivalent, or even just a basic S&P 500 ... and you treat bitcoin exactly the same way, and keep doing the same thing for the next 20 years, yes, you will get rich as much as you like by the time you need to cash it out, if you never touch it until then.

That's what I was trying to say anyway. But no.. Very few will actually do this even after reading this post. I'll try to do it myself, but I have other problems I have to deal with at the moment, like trying to survive.
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January 29, 2020, 08:08:48 PM

My little daughter is totally afraid of deadly viruses now. Thanks to the global brainwash broadcasting mafia media.  Roll Eyes

Did you tell her the virus was released on purpose in order to try and provide cover for the implosion of global Jewish Ponzi scams?
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January 29, 2020, 08:23:14 PM

Another bull flag move to $9,800 looks possible this evening, even if my gut feeling is for some more consolidation/correction before higher highs.

Preserve your gut within its current status, even if it feels a bit uncomfortable for you, on a personal level...

In other words, take one for the team... we don't want anymore bear calls from you... NONE....

You will thank me later.

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Bears are part of the game. I am still not all in.

Can I order a flash crash to $5500 please?

I think a flash crash to sub $6K is a bit much to ask, maybe better chance of ordering of a slow grind back down to continue to bear trend over the next few months, until the halving with an eventual break of $6K. While looking bullish, we still haven't made a higher high (above $10.5K) or the long-term downtrend from $20K (lined up at $10K), and therefore topping out and breaking key support (probably $8.2K and $7.2K levels) would definitely indicate a continuation of the bear trend (lower highs and lower lows). That said, the chances of sub $6K are becoming increasingly less as time moves on, about $100 a week based on the 200 Week MA (currently at $5266).

Just because price is looking extremely bullish, is above the 200 Day MA, broken out of a bear channel, above the MA ribbons and guppy on the Weekly, and given a hash ribbons buy signal on all time-frames (as well as many other bullish factors)... it still doesn't fully negative the bearish structure of lower highs and lower lows.
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January 29, 2020, 08:24:36 PM

Talking about camels, just looking at all this again, had forgotten this resource https://antilop.cc/sr/ Silk Road Tales and Archives
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January 29, 2020, 08:27:50 PM


Can I order a flash crash to $5500 please?
You mean you have an active stop loss order with an exchange?
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January 29, 2020, 08:34:53 PM

I'm staying at a hotel named Corona. Because. Ride the lulz all the way.
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January 29, 2020, 08:48:41 PM

Observing 9,407 on Stamp



Where else Would a WOer Observe?

Coinbase
Yet some data mining company claims coinbase has 1 million bitcoin in their possession. Split into different amounts in cold storage.
https://www.trustnodes.com/2020/01/25/coinbase-holds-8-billion-bitcoin

I doubt they wanted this to be publicly known.
Observing using preev rate (combination of bitstamp/kraken) because buy&selling with individuals they call to reach a consensus on the price they want 1:1  Embarrassed
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January 29, 2020, 08:51:01 PM

Can I order a flash crash to $5500 please?

Can I order a flash market-buy to $55000 please?
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January 29, 2020, 08:57:11 PM

I'm staying at a hotel named Corona. Because. Ride the lulz all the way.

Corona? Yawn.

The beer sucks (cerveza turista) and we don't have the virus out here in the Maya jungle.

Coronary?

Still not gonna lose any sleep. Excellent healthcare here in Mexico. Almost as good as Canada.
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another doowopawigabee forming up on the 15 min chart
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