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January 15, 2020, 04:31:59 AM
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I doubt that the 1/2 the court gave these 'supposed' the Klieman family estate will act in a irresponsible manner.

Courts don't have the technical know-how to determine crypto fraud, private keys, stuff like that. Heck, the Japanese court "resolved" the mtgox case by giving a low USD-equivalent on bitcoins that had multiplied their USD-value several times. In the meantime they left the rest of the BTC to the custody of third parties that were using these BTCs to manipulate BTC price... I think it was Kraken who said that the trustee was destroying the order book instead of opting for auctions (as suggested by Kraken).

In any case, the courts asked for something from CW and he has to deliver "something". I have no doubt he will deliver "something" because he needs to do it or else face possible sanctions, from what I read. Heck, he might have made enough money in the recent rumor-based SV pump that he can actually settle the case outside of the courtroom without losing face from a possible conviction Tongue
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January 15, 2020, 04:50:43 AM

I wonder how stupid you have to be to be buying SV right now....

A lot of buyers just chase price momentum, without any idea of what is really going on in the fundamentals. They often think they can get out in time, but when this sort of move ends, liquidity evaporates and the reversal will kill most of the price in short order.

The alts certainly seem to be running on momentum alone. It is fairly positive to see BTC moving steadily higher (indicating it is not just a rotation trade), but of course it would be unwise to chase this move.

When the reversal comes, it will of course take everything down, but there will then be a good indication of where the new support lies.
I heard someone bought 1300 BTC SV on bittrex or something and ended up paying over $2000 for a single one. Stupid.

Only fools and greedy people. Smiley

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January 15, 2020, 04:58:50 AM
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I doubt that the 1/2 the court gave these 'supposed' the Klieman family estate will act in a irresponsible manner.

Courts don't have the technical know-how to determine crypto fraud, private keys, stuff like that. Heck, the Japanese court "resolved" the mtgox case by giving a low USD-equivalent on bitcoins that had multiplied their USD-value several times. In the meantime they left the rest of the BTC to the custody of third parties that were using these BTCs to manipulate BTC price... I think it was Kraken who said that the trustee was destroying the order book instead of opting for auctions (as suggested by Kraken).

In any case, the courts asked for something from CW and he has to deliver "something". I have no doubt he will deliver "something" because he needs to do it or else face possible sanctions, from what I read. Heck, he might have made enough money in the recent rumor-based SV pump that he can actually settle the case outside of the courtroom without losing face from a possible conviction Tongue

He already did, he was ordered to deliver his BTC holdings, and he just did exactly that provided Kleiman with list of addresses. Can't wait till they publish it and someone signs "CSW is not Satoshi" with one of them, we should start a bounty for the first one.
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January 15, 2020, 05:17:40 AM
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The US National Security Agency (NSA) has discovered a major flaw in Windows 10 that could have been used by hackers to create malicious software that looked legitimate.

brilliant, and on windows 7's EOL day no less

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An advisory released today by the NSA says the flaw may have far more wide-ranging security implications, noting that the “exploitation of the vulnerability allows attackers to defeat trusted network connections and deliver executable code while appearing as legitimately trusted entities.”

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/01/patch-tuesday-january-2020-edition/

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-51106356

https://media.defense.gov/2020/Jan/14/2002234275/-1/-1/0/CSA-WINDOWS-10-CRYPT-LIB-20190114.PDF
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January 15, 2020, 05:20:25 AM

Bleh. Now that I decided to get rid of some more BSV I notice my Bittrex account (where I do "store" a good chunk of it and some other shitcoins... that's how much I care about it) has been disabled and they are requesting me to KYC.

Oh well....


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January 15, 2020, 05:33:02 AM

Good evening Bitcoinland from my air-conditioned hotel room in Playa del Carmen.

So far so good. I got in here yesterday and the price was about $7.8k and now it`s up over $8.2k... currently $8232USD $10743CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Hopefully we can put that crap to rest about my travels south somehow causing the price to fall. It was getting annoying.

How do we know you're truthinating? For all we know, you're actually still chilling up north.
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January 15, 2020, 05:54:59 AM

Alright Duderino and V8, got the message (and the lucky 7 merits!).
I’ll stop being a Complainypants and, perhaps, bite the bullet and sit down. Thank you.

Haha. On the topic of Bitcoin, Mr Money Moustache is a Complainypants.
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January 15, 2020, 06:04:37 AM

I expected to see 9000 this morning, don't take long to reach them. Cool
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The US National Security Agency (NSA) has discovered a major flaw in Windows 10 that could have been used by hackers to create malicious software that looked legitimate.

brilliant, and on windows 7's EOL day no less

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An advisory released today by the NSA says the flaw may have far more wide-ranging security implications, noting that the “exploitation of the vulnerability allows attackers to defeat trusted network connections and deliver executable code while appearing as legitimately trusted entities.”

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/01/patch-tuesday-january-2020-edition/

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-51106356

https://media.defense.gov/2020/Jan/14/2002234275/-1/-1/0/CSA-WINDOWS-10-CRYPT-LIB-20190114.PDF

Just makes me wonder how many other exploits they're sitting on and NOT disclosing
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January 15, 2020, 06:55:08 AM

Bad day for Bob. Frustrated getting the right polish on an audio project I'm working on, and angry with myself being lazy mixing in headphones in bed, when I really need to be working in my studio with proper monitors and a sub. Bleh.

Putting the finishing touches on a new dubstep banger?
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January 15, 2020, 07:09:08 AM
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The document produced by Craig is simply a list of 16,404 addresses. Craig, however, did not provide any information on the bounded courier, the company he/she worked for, when he/she came, or the message delivered.
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.377.0.pdf

 Cheesy now he's just trolling the court! Lets see them addresses!
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January 15, 2020, 07:21:25 AM

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As a result of U.S. regulatory requirements, Bittrex users will now need to provide some additional identifying information. You can provide this information now or we will ask you again when you next log in. You must provide your information by January 14th, 2020, in order to continue depositing, withdrawing and trading.
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Same here @ my bitcoin broker   Sad
I checked into localbicoins and mycelium but the nearest seller within borders is a good 100 miles drive away, also not the cheapest price.
Better buy through exchanges then, but i have to pay additional fees to transfer the corn to my hw-wallet.
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January 15, 2020, 08:13:35 AM

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The document produced by Craig is simply a list of 16,404 addresses. Craig, however, did not provide any information on the bounded courier, the company he/she worked for, when he/she came, or the message delivered.
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.377.0.pdf

 Cheesy now he's just trolling the court! Lets see them addresses!

Shortly after Judge Reinhart issued this Order, on September 11, 2019, the parties reached
an agreement in principle to settle the case. Discovery was abated for nearly two months as the
parties worked together to document their agreement. Then, on October 30, and without warning,
Plaintiffs were informed Craig could no longer finance the settlement
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...no shit Grin
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January 15, 2020, 09:01:40 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUm1qE9Zl6c

Roger's properly gone off the deep end now
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January 15, 2020, 09:20:36 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUm1qE9Zl6c

Roger's properly gone off the deep end now

Just another salesman. Even a little saddening, seeing him desperately trying to sell BCH.
Speaking of lies....

BTC: Bullish mini-triangle against resistance forming. Curious if and when it breaks upwards.
However, in ultra-short timeframes, could almost only be a pump for dump. We'll see.
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January 15, 2020, 09:32:03 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUm1qE9Zl6c

Roger's properly gone off the deep end now

Just another salesman. Even a little saddening, seeing him desperately trying to sell BCH.
Speaking of lies....

BTC: Bullish mini-triangle against resistance forming. Curious if and when it breaks upwards.
However, in ultra-short timeframes, could almost only be a pump for dump. We'll see.

Yeah I think desperation is settling in now but I genuinely think he has a mental health problem too. He might be a clown but I genuinely feel bad for people with those issues who go untreated.

And I think we will hold in this territory for a bit now, at least I hope; too much too soon is never good. The BSV pump is already coming down too so I think that might settle the market a bit as well. All in all I'd say things are looking good currently
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January 15, 2020, 09:45:40 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUm1qE9Zl6c

Roger's properly gone off the deep end now

Just another salesman. Even a little saddening, seeing him desperately trying to sell BCH.
Speaking of lies....

BTC: Bullish mini-triangle against resistance forming. Curious if and when it breaks upwards.
However, in ultra-short timeframes, could almost only be a pump for dump. We'll see.

Yeah I think desperation is settling in now but I genuinely think he has a mental health problem too. He might be a clown but I genuinely feel bad for people with those issues who go untreated.

And I think we will hold in this territory for a bit now, at least I hope; too much too soon is never good. The BSV pump is already coming down too so I think that might settle the market a bit as well. All in all I'd say things are looking good currently

I'm perfectly fine with slowly weakening resistance over days, which just emphasizes following possible pump(s).
Next weekend, maybe? Waiting for TA and SOMA posts, after the daylight hits the US area.
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January 15, 2020, 09:58:58 AM

Talking about a small pump Grin
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January 15, 2020, 10:11:00 AM

UPDATE: In a new filing Tuesday, Ira Kleiman's attorneys said Craig Wright produced more than 16,000 bitcoin addresses but no information about the bonded courier, who the plaintiffs wish to depose.
https://twitter.com/coindesk/status/1217250185690128389?s=20

LATEST: In a new filing, Craig Wright says he received the necessary information to unencrypt the so-called “Tulip Trust.”
https://twitter.com/coindesk/status/1217233377738264578?s=20

Always lies and lies, sell off following soon?
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January 15, 2020, 10:13:30 AM

Talking about a small pump Grin

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Totally expected, but way stronger than i thought. Hope it keeps up (and up).

EDIT: Just saw it started coming down again after i posted.
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