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January 12, 2020, 09:48:23 PM

Yuh you'd be better off dealing with Diego

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January 12, 2020, 09:53:40 PM
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I think he has had plenty of releases already
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January 12, 2020, 09:54:40 PM

^groan  Grin

Actually gentd if you don't mind, what's the deal with your Megan obsession?
Are you hoping she'll be responsible for the band splitting up, like Yoko was?
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January 12, 2020, 09:55:33 PM

Actually gentd if you don't mind, what's the deal with your Megan obsession?
Are you hoping she'll be responsible for the band splitting up, like Yoko was?

I like a bit of anarchy and she's bringing it.

And the memes are good.
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January 12, 2020, 10:11:39 PM
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Yuh you'd be better off dealing with Diego



Have anyone asked if he wants to be released or prefer to continue doing service?
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January 12, 2020, 10:42:00 PM


I sometimes wonder what would happen after we press that "yes" on the new IRS form (which is weirdly worded for starters).
Sounds like a tool to separate the wheat from the chaff.

new IRS form?
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January 12, 2020, 10:43:41 PM

I'm also looking forward to the new opportunities coming their way and hope to profit on anything they introduce me to.

Let's face it, the time is coming again and they now have a living to make.

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I sometimes wonder what would happen after we press that "yes" on the new IRS form (which is weirdly worded for starters).
Sounds like a tool to separate the wheat from the chaff.

new IRS form?

https://bitcoinist.com/irs-targets-crypto-trading-and-gig-economy-for-2020-tax-season/
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January 12, 2020, 10:58:17 PM

Mempool IZ DED !

Consolidate your small inputs whilst you can guys.

1 sat/byte now the recommended fee Smiley

Hurry whilst it’s so low.

https://btc.com/stats/unconfirmed-tx



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I sometimes wonder what would happen after we press that "yes" on the new IRS form (which is weirdly worded for starters).
Sounds like a tool to separate the wheat from the chaff.

new IRS form?

https://bitcoinist.com/irs-targets-crypto-trading-and-gig-economy-for-2020-tax-season/
Bitcoin is very real so "virtual currency" must be fiat.
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January 12, 2020, 11:26:56 PM

^groan  Grin

Actually gentd if you don't mind, what's the deal with your Megan obsession?
Are you hoping she'll be responsible for the band splitting up, like Yoko was?

I had to google who the fuck they were and yup couldn't care less and wish I had that time back.


Yuh you'd be better off dealing with Diego



Have anyone asked if he wants to be released or prefer to continue doing service?

Just open the damn gate and let him go where he pleases its not lioke he's gonna go running off.
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I sometimes wonder what would happen after we press that "yes" on the new IRS form (which is weirdly worded for starters).
Sounds like a tool to separate the wheat from the chaff.

new IRS form?

https://bitcoinist.com/irs-targets-crypto-trading-and-gig-economy-for-2020-tax-season/

We all saw that coming, but no worries... everyone in here declares every last sat they own and pays their taxes.... ehem.
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January 12, 2020, 11:48:55 PM

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January 12, 2020, 11:52:48 PM

I'm also looking forward to the new opportunities coming their way and hope to profit on anything they introduce me to.

Let's face it, the time is coming again and they now have a living to make.



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January 13, 2020, 12:59:15 AM

I deletes my all old posts Tongue

but, but how to you keep track of what lies youre telling here? print a post then keep it filed away?

oh wait


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January 13, 2020, 01:21:24 AM

I deletes my all old posts Tongue

but, but how to you keep track of what lies youre telling here? print a post then keep it filed away?

oh wait


What happens in deleted files, stays in deleted files.

Aka.. trade secrets.
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January 13, 2020, 03:23:10 AM

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/investing/funds/silver-swiss-francs-bitcoin-investors-new-safe-havens/

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Tensions between America and Iran escalated last week amid further military action. Stock market investors tend to panic when countries race to arms, piling savings into so-called “safe haven” assets. Yet what we classify as safe has changed over time – today’s defence is being built with a very different type of brick.

The traditional definition for a safe or defensive asset is one that is uncorrelated to riskier holdings such as shares but which is also easy and quick to buy and sell. This has often ruled out the likes of property, wine and art.

Gold has long been known as the ultimate safe asset, with the price up nearly 4pc since America assassinated Iranian military leader Qassim Soleimani. However, while gold retains its usefulness, its importance peaked in the last century, according to Ed Smith, of fund firm Rathbones.

Government bonds were also established as safe, as investors trusted the most stable governments to honour debt obligations. At the top of the list is American debt, which Axa Investment Management economist David Page said was the purest government bond haven. German and Japanese debt also act as safe investments.

Yet with the gold price far from cheap and government bonds offering low or even negative yields – investors have had to turn to alternatives.

One new source of protection are cryptocurrencies. The price of Bitcoin, the best known crypocurrency, has risen 16pc since the Jan 3 killing of Soleimani. Derivatives trading platform eToro found the attack led to a 46pc increase in Bitcoin trades compared to the average over the previous three months.

Advocates argue that cryptocurrencies have an independent source of value, are outside of the control of central banks and cannot be devalued or destroyed by governments. Yet experts are not convinced. Peter Sleep, of Seven Investment Management, said he preferred a real currency as it could be exchanged easily for actual goods. Mr Smith added that, while cryptocurrencies do tend to climb when markets are under pressure, their track record is far too short to come to a firm conclusion that they work as safe haven assets.

Other defensive holdings include slightly less precious metals such as silver. The price can be correlated to gold, but is much more volatile. It is also used more in industrial activity, meaning it can fall in value during economic slowdowns – hampering its defensive effectiveness if a market fall is driven by poor economic circumstances.

The use of foreign currencies has also increased. Mr Page said the Swiss franc, Japanese yen, Norwegian krone and American dollar were best-placed to rise when markets came under pressure. The dollar is the global reserve currency, which means other governments hold significant quantities of it, making it a relatively safe investment.

The ease with which these safe havens can be bought is adding to their popularity. Using foreign currency is as simple as opening a bank account and transferring pounds.

Some digital banks have revolutionised the process. Revolut, for example, allows customers to hold and exchange 30 currencies in its mobile app at a low cost. Similarly, cryptocurrencies and gold can be bought via low-cost and easy-to-use brokers. The precious metal’s price is most commonly tracked using exchange-traded funds (ETFs).

However, investors should not underestimate the importance of the more traditional safe investments, said respected economist John Kay. He said the defensive status of government debt remained strong, although the countries considered “safe” had changed over time. In the past British government debt was considered the safest, with investors turning their noses up at Japanese and German debt. This is no longer true.

Investors can most easilly buy American government bonds through Isa and pension brokers. Passive funds and ETFs offer cheap and easy exposure.

Quoted investment trusts – such as City of London and RIT Capital Patners – have enviable track records of preserving wealth and maintaining dividends over many years.
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January 13, 2020, 04:31:27 AM
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If you use firefox upgrade it immediately. It has a serious bug that's already being exploited.


https://www.pcworld.com/article/3513538/mozilla-firefox-vulnerability-is-so-bad-the-us-government-is-urging-users-to-patch-it-immediately.html

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This Firefox vulnerability is so bad, the U.S. government is urging users to patch it immediately
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January 13, 2020, 04:49:19 AM

If you use firefox upgrade it immediately. It has a serious bug that's already being exploited.


https://www.pcworld.com/article/3513538/mozilla-firefox-vulnerability-is-so-bad-the-us-government-is-urging-users-to-patch-it-immediately.html

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This Firefox vulnerability is so bad, the U.S. government is urging users to patch it immediately

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thanks!
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