Bitcoin Forum
May 19, 2022, 05:37:43 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 23.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Poll
Question: Price prediction for the May 21 weekly close:
<$20,000 - 6 (7.5%)
$20,000 - $22,000 - 0 (0%)
$22,000 - $24,000 - 2 (2.5%)
$24,000 - $26,000 - 3 (3.8%)
$26,000 - $28,000 - 7 (8.8%)
$28,000 - $30,000 - 11 (13.8%)
$30,000 - $32,000 - 17 (21.3%)
$32,000 - $34,000 - 8 (10%)
$34,000 - $36,000 - 6 (7.5%)
$36,000 - $38,000 - 3 (3.8%)
$38,000 - $40,000 - 2 (2.5%)
>$40,000 - 15 (18.8%)
Total Voters: 80

Pages: « 1 ... 27247 27248 27249 27250 27251 27252 27253 27254 27255 27256 27257 27258 27259 27260 27261 27262 27263 27264 27265 27266 27267 27268 27269 27270 27271 27272 27273 27274 27275 27276 27277 27278 27279 27280 27281 27282 27283 27284 27285 27286 27287 27288 27289 27290 27291 27292 27293 27294 27295 27296 [27297] 27298 27299 27300 27301 27302 27303 27304 27305 27306 27307 27308 27309 27310 27311 27312 27313 27314 27315 27316 27317 27318 27319 27320 27321 27322 27323 27324 27325 27326 27327 27328 27329 27330 27331 27332 27333 27334 27335 27336 27337 27338 27339 27340 27341 27342 27343 27344 27345 27346 27347 ... 30771 »
  Print  
Author Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion  (Read 25619679 times)
This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. (160 posts by 2 users with 9 merit deleted.)
Phil_S
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1750
Merit: 1255


We choose to go to the moon


View Profile
September 27, 2020, 03:17:27 PM

France didn't even know that there ware stars in the sky when those structures have been built  Grin Grin Grin

And when was that exactly? When those structures have been built?

Here, look it up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machu_Picchu

Frankly, if the person is standing next to them for scale, the structures are not than impressive:
1652981863
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1652981863

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1652981863
Reply with quote  #2

1652981863
Report to moderator
1652981863
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1652981863

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1652981863
Reply with quote  #2

1652981863
Report to moderator
Bitcoin Layer Two Wallet with CoinSwaps Privacy
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here.
1652981863
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1652981863

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1652981863
Reply with quote  #2

1652981863
Report to moderator
1652981863
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1652981863

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1652981863
Reply with quote  #2

1652981863
Report to moderator
philipma1957
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3402
Merit: 4406



View Profile
September 27, 2020, 03:26:43 PM

That's Machu Picchu, and it's not that old.

Notre-Dame de Paris is centuries older than that, believe it or not.

Hagia Sophia is like 1000 years older.
(More stuff)

Keep in mind the only reason we see these buildings is because they are still around. They were found to be "beautiful" and didn't collapse over time. For every one of these examples there is 1000+ failures that are erased forever.

So you do have a self selection bias. Add to that weathering (things round over time), compression (things like rocks can mold into a shape over time) and just plain luck and you have the ancient aliens stuff.

Imagine what will survive from our culture for 10,000 years. Stainless steel butt plugs and dildos. Maybe they will think they are god-images.

Maybe they are.

read a bit more about the great pyramid .  not the lessor ones but the great one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pyramid_of_Giza

let me know how they stacked the 80 ton blocks in the year 2500bc
Phil_S
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1750
Merit: 1255


We choose to go to the moon


View Profile
September 27, 2020, 03:45:58 PM
Merited by vapourminer (2)

Here's 2,500 years old unfinished statue in Greece, still in the ancient marble quarry.









Greeks obviously had plans (and technology) to cut and move it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kouros_of_Apollonas

Quote
The Kouros of Apollonas, also called the Colossus of Dionysus, is a 10.7 metre[1] tall unfinished statue of light grey Naxian marble with a weight of around 80 tonnes. It is located in an ancient quarry near Apollonas, a small town in the northern part of Naxos, one of the Cycladic Islands in the Aegean Sea.

The figure is roughly carved, but the body, head with beard and ears and the beginning of the hair are roughly recognisable. The arms have been cut by the stonemasons as rudimentary rectangles and the shaping of the feet had been begun; they are located on a 50 cm high plinth. The unfinished kouros lies in a rough stone slope.

According to Carl Blümel, a sculptor and director of the Pergamonmuseum, Greek quarrying in early times was similar to Egyptian quarrying practice. The rough form of the figure was carved out. The sculptors were especially able to work the sides. They worked layer by layer, creating flat contour areas. So the sculptors never worked on a leg, arm or head individually, but always on the sculpture as a whole and thus the whole figure was at the same stage of completion at each moment.[4] Only after the creation of the rough contour was the figure rounded out. This is all clearly demonstrated by the Kouros of Apollonas.

The sculptors used bronze chisels, which have left numerous holes in the sculpture, which were probably also the result of the use of pickaxes and hammers and would have been smoothed out in the course of the work by the use of finer chisels and gentler blows

The statue, which has an estimated weight of about 80 tonnes,[5] had been cut free from the stone on three sides, but it was not completed. On the back of the Kouros there are 5–8 cm wide keyholes, which are between 32 and 37 cm apart. In the centre, between the back of the kouros and the stone is a rectangular hole with a width of 40 cm, for the insertion of a wooden lifting beam. These recesses are located in the main lifting points of Greek monoliths. This ancient quarrying technique can be detected by traces in numerous places in the quarry, since it was not used in later times.

It's less magical, when you look at unfinished work-in-progress... It's just a lot of hard work.

But they could do it. They were not stupid.
vapourminer
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3612
Merit: 2387


what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?


View Profile
September 27, 2020, 03:46:32 PM

read a bit more about the great pyramid .  not the lessor ones but the great one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pyramid_of_Giza

let me know how they stacked the 80 ton blocks in the year 2500bc

the theory i like (unsure if its mentioned in the wiki) is they built the land around it up as they built it so they "just" had to move the blocks uphill on logs etc to the stone (thats now even with the new ground level) they wanted it on. when that layer is done move more dirt in so its now even with the new level you just built.

then, just remove the dirt. poof. snimple if you have basically unlimited dirt, manpower and time.
AlcoHoDL
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1638
Merit: 2472


Addicted to HoDLing!


View Profile
September 27, 2020, 04:01:44 PM
Merited by vapourminer (1)

Also worth mentioning is the ancient Greeks' methods of perspective correction when designing their monuments. It's amazing that such methods were used at that period of time. It screams "high-tech", even by today's standards!

https://www.architecturerevived.com/how-greek-temples-correct-visual-distortion/
elrippos friend
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 1171
Merit: 202


only hodl what you understand and love!


View Profile
September 27, 2020, 04:05:01 PM

France didn't even know that there ware stars in the sky when those structures have been built  Grin Grin Grin

And when was that exactly? When those structures have been built?

Here, look it up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machu_Picchu

Frankly, if the person is standing next to them for scale, the structures are not than impressive:


As it is often stated, DYOR and then come back again  Grin
elrippos friend
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 1171
Merit: 202


only hodl what you understand and love!


View Profile
September 27, 2020, 04:06:55 PM

Here's 2,500 years old unfinished statue in Greece, still in the ancient marble quarry.









Greeks obviously had plans (and technology) to cut and move it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kouros_of_Apollonas

Quote
The Kouros of Apollonas, also called the Colossus of Dionysus, is a 10.7 metre[1] tall unfinished statue of light grey Naxian marble with a weight of around 80 tonnes. It is located in an ancient quarry near Apollonas, a small town in the northern part of Naxos, one of the Cycladic Islands in the Aegean Sea.

The figure is roughly carved, but the body, head with beard and ears and the beginning of the hair are roughly recognisable. The arms have been cut by the stonemasons as rudimentary rectangles and the shaping of the feet had been begun; they are located on a 50 cm high plinth. The unfinished kouros lies in a rough stone slope.

According to Carl Blümel, a sculptor and director of the Pergamonmuseum, Greek quarrying in early times was similar to Egyptian quarrying practice. The rough form of the figure was carved out. The sculptors were especially able to work the sides. They worked layer by layer, creating flat contour areas. So the sculptors never worked on a leg, arm or head individually, but always on the sculpture as a whole and thus the whole figure was at the same stage of completion at each moment.[4] Only after the creation of the rough contour was the figure rounded out. This is all clearly demonstrated by the Kouros of Apollonas.

The sculptors used bronze chisels, which have left numerous holes in the sculpture, which were probably also the result of the use of pickaxes and hammers and would have been smoothed out in the course of the work by the use of finer chisels and gentler blows

The statue, which has an estimated weight of about 80 tonnes,[5] had been cut free from the stone on three sides, but it was not completed. On the back of the Kouros there are 5–8 cm wide keyholes, which are between 32 and 37 cm apart. In the centre, between the back of the kouros and the stone is a rectangular hole with a width of 40 cm, for the insertion of a wooden lifting beam. These recesses are located in the main lifting points of Greek monoliths. This ancient quarrying technique can be detected by traces in numerous places in the quarry, since it was not used in later times.

It's less magical, when you look at unfinished work-in-progress... It's just a lot of hard work.

But they could do it. They were not stupid.


Again, that is the official story like BTC is dead  Grin
The statue is now in the land of the greeks, but no one can tell you who was in those sites when that was built or in the process of building, that is what the history books are missing  Wink
friends1980
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1568
Merit: 975


nutildah-III / NFT2021-04-01


View Profile
September 27, 2020, 04:08:02 PM

Good to be reminded about the fact that once upon a time Greeks were actually working.

Or wait a minute. They had slaves doing the work for them, right?

Disclaimer: sincere apologies to my Greek friends. I'm visiting your wonderful country with your delicious cuisine at least once a year, but I just couldn't let that one slip.
Phil_S
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1750
Merit: 1255


We choose to go to the moon


View Profile
September 27, 2020, 04:10:27 PM

As it is often stated, DYOR and then come back again  Grin

I already did, that stuff is not that old:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg55272244#msg55272244
elrippos friend
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 1171
Merit: 202


only hodl what you understand and love!


View Profile
September 27, 2020, 04:11:09 PM

Good to be reminded about the fact that once upon a time Greeks were actually working.

Or wait a minute. They had slaves doing the work for them, right?

Disclaimer: sincere apologies to my Greek friends. I'm visiting your wonderful country with your delicious cuisine at least once a year, but I just couldn't let that one slip.

Don't forget that the Bavarians brought the financial system and the choke hold to Greece  Grin Grin Grin
elrippos friend
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 1171
Merit: 202


only hodl what you understand and love!


View Profile
September 27, 2020, 04:12:08 PM

As it is often stated, DYOR and then come back again  Grin

I already did, that stuff is not that old:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg55272244#msg55272244


Again, you are reading from the history books = bullshit  Smiley
Phil_S
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1750
Merit: 1255


We choose to go to the moon


View Profile
September 27, 2020, 04:18:59 PM

The statue is now in the land of the greeks, but no one can tell you who was in those sites when that was built or in the process of building, that is what the history books are missing  Wink

Of course they know, it's from Archaic Greece period and they found lots of similar statues from that period, they call them Kouros https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kouros

That particular unfinished statue is either Apollo or Dionysos.
Febo
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2688
Merit: 1284



View Profile
September 27, 2020, 04:21:20 PM

The most magnificent is Göbekli Tepe in Turkey. Not because of what they built, but because of when it was built. 11000 years ago, so in Neolithic and all was built with stone tools. Worth for everyone to google it and check.
Phil_S
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1750
Merit: 1255


We choose to go to the moon


View Profile
September 27, 2020, 04:22:34 PM

Again, you are reading from the history books = bullshit  Smiley

Again, what are your sources?
lightfoot
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2884
Merit: 2152


I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)


View Profile
September 27, 2020, 04:25:01 PM

Also worth mentioning is the ancient Greeks' methods of perspective correction when designing their monuments. It's amazing that such methods were used at that period of time. It screams "high-tech", even by today's standards!

https://www.architecturerevived.com/how-greek-temples-correct-visual-distortion/
Once again, they made a lot of clunks that looked like shit at a distance. This led them to design in the perpsective POV so people would pay them money to build buildings. The best ones are still around.

Interesting stuff, but no aliens needed.
BobLawblaw
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1218
Merit: 4163


Welcome to Costco. I love you.


View Profile
September 27, 2020, 04:37:40 PM
Merited by cAPSLOCK (1)

Happy Sunday, folks.
Fifty Thousand projected.
This time next year, yo.
strawbs
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 809
Merit: 989



View Profile
September 27, 2020, 04:39:09 PM

Sunday Bart Simpson
just means we're right where we were
this time yesterday
Paashaas
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3038
Merit: 3194



View Profile
September 27, 2020, 04:45:18 PM

The future is decentralision, not centralisation. BTC

'One day everyone will use China's digital currency'.

Quote
Chandler Guo was a pioneer in cryptocurrency, the digital currencies that can be created and used independently of national central banks and governments.

In 2014 he set up an operation to produce one of those currencies, Bitcoin, in a secret location in western China.

"Mining" Bitcoin is a power hungry enterprise involving dozens of computers so he used power from a hydroelectric station, in partnership with a local Chinese government official.

At its peak his machines were capable of mining 30% of the world's Bitcoin. He believed Bitcoin would one day change the world and replace the dollar.

But now he sees a new force emerging - a payment system created by the Chinese state and known as Digital Currency Electronic Payment (DCEP).

It's really a digital version of China's official currency, the yuan, and Mr Guo feels DCEP will become the dominant global currency. "One day everyone in the world will be using DCEP," he says.
JayJuanGee
Legendary
*
Online Online

Activity: 2996
Merit: 6327


ESG, KYC & AML are attack vectors on Bitcoin


View Profile
September 27, 2020, 04:51:13 PM

-snip-

It's a bit frustrating to see that we've had practically the same lows for 3 years (2018-2020), but if we look at the 2014-2016 period we can see a very similar situation.

Let's hope the price moons after this.

Great point.

So many of us get a bit deceived and delusional, even though we should not by these relatively flat periods that seem damned long while we are going through them.

There have been long ass period of seeming correlation between bitcoin and traditional markets - and that seeming correlation comes during these kinds of long ass periods of what is bitcoin's relatively flat performance.

Of course, we are not guaranteed further bitcoin price appreciation spikes, yet like you suggested, we likely felt very similarly from 2014 to 2016..... seems like such a long period, while we are suffering through it (those of us who are suffering with our glass half full perspectives - not really claiming myself to be in that doom and gloom camp - even while I appreciate that there are no guarantees).
lightfoot
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2884
Merit: 2152


I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)


View Profile
September 27, 2020, 04:51:44 PM

Again, you are reading from the history books = bullshit  Smiley

Again, what are your sources?
Aliens
Pages: « 1 ... 27247 27248 27249 27250 27251 27252 27253 27254 27255 27256 27257 27258 27259 27260 27261 27262 27263 27264 27265 27266 27267 27268 27269 27270 27271 27272 27273 27274 27275 27276 27277 27278 27279 27280 27281 27282 27283 27284 27285 27286 27287 27288 27289 27290 27291 27292 27293 27294 27295 27296 [27297] 27298 27299 27300 27301 27302 27303 27304 27305 27306 27307 27308 27309 27310 27311 27312 27313 27314 27315 27316 27317 27318 27319 27320 27321 27322 27323 27324 27325 27326 27327 27328 27329 27330 27331 27332 27333 27334 27335 27336 27337 27338 27339 27340 27341 27342 27343 27344 27345 27346 27347 ... 30771 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!