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[ShroomsKit]

Wait a sec, so people just sold because they thought bitstamp disabled withdrawals??

Probably not, more related to deflating of the bubble..

It clearly started the minute people reported that Stamp issue.
These sellers don't even read or think anymore. Just 1 word that sounds negative and they completely start to panic.
And after the panic turns out to be nothing there's no buying back. We're just lower than before and the idiots are waiting for the next sign to panic.

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[Dragonkiller]

I did receive that E-mail as well, I just read the email and was like "yes nice try", so I guess that was it.

I wonder how stamp knows which accounts received that e-mail, assuming that is the withdraw suspension trigger.

Perhaps they don't know which accounts are affected, but simply implemented some heavy-handed "If IP changed geolocation more than 100 miles, block withdrawal" rule.

Can anyone who had his BTC withdrawals blocked on Bitstamp comment on this possibility? Did you log in from a different location than usual?

Nope, and I have a static IP. Maybe my account had multiple login attempts (that were not me) and that's why they blocked it.

Thanks.

Maybe the senders of the emails just went "fishing", attempting log in even if you didn't respond.

Then again, you need the account number to log in, so not sure how they would have gotten that one.

Tbh, I think it's most likely the leak/hack occurred directly at Stamp given they know exactly which accounts were affected. Seems unlikely that the senders of the emails would try to login to accounts that didn't download the malware.

[JCviggen]

I guess then that we had a leak at bitstamp side.

We need to hear from somebody who used an exclusive address for their bitstamp account (ie. one that they have not used on some other service), yet still received that spam, to know this for sure.

No chance, then the scammers would not have used btcguild in the ruse (most people they sent to would have nothing to do with btcguild whilst they would know for a fact all their targets are at stamp)

[pietje]

Wait a sec, so people just sold because they thought bitstamp disabled withdrawals??

Probably not, more related to deflating of the bubble..

It clearly started the minute people reported that Stamp issue.
These sellers don't even read or think anymore. Just 1 word that sounds negative and they completely start to panic.
And after the panic turns out to be nothing there's no buying back. We're just lower than before and the idiots are waiting for the next sign to panic.

Imagine what happens if we go up for a little. All the idiots are panic buying.

[Rampion]

Amazed by the amount of people saying they don't use 2FA.

Seriously guys, WTF? How difficult is to download Google Auth on your phone and to set up the 2FA on your exchange account?

Why do you try so hard to be the low-hanging fruit and thus to be hacked?

WHY???

[eiprol]

I'm almost sure they had a flaw in security, because as I sad, it was the first time that I was advised to activate 2fa (in red letters) just after login. And with all this phising emails (they probably got the addresses due to the flaw), and the problem with withdrawals... In the best case, they have just experienced a lot of failed logins recently. In the worst case, its database has been compromised  

[inca]

I'm almost sure they had a flaw in security, because as I sad, it was the first time that I was advised to activate 2fa (in red letters) just after login. And with all this phising emails (probably gotten on that 'hack'), and the problem with withdrawals... In the best case, they have just experienced a lot of failed logins recently. In the worst case, its database has been compromised  

Care to wait for the facts instead of making them up?

[tarmi]

Wait a sec, so people just sold because they thought bitstamp disabled withdrawals??

Probably not, more related to deflating of the bubble..

It clearly started the minute people reported that Stamp issue.
These sellers don't even read or think anymore. Just 1 word that sounds negative and they completely start to panic.
And after the panic turns out to be nothing there's no buying back. We're just lower than before and the idiots are waiting for the next sign to panic.

no, I think someone is dumping big time, just using bad news for cover.

[mmitech]

ok here is something to think about, who of you use and android ? and use the same email for google account with Bitstamp? it could be a Bitcoin related APP.... I need some co-operation here, we need to know from where they've got our emails...

[johnny211]

Amazed by the amount of people saying they don't use 2FA.

Seriously guys, WTF? How difficult is to download Google Auth on your phone and to set up the 2FA on your exchange account?

Why do you try so hard to be the low-hanging fruit and thus to be hacked?

WHY???

I guess i'm not the only one who worries about losing the phone and doesn't really know how to keep backups of the 2FA stuff properly.

[oda.krell]

ok here is something to think about, who of you use and android ? and use the same email for google account with Bitstamp? it could be a Bitcoin related APP.... I need some co-operation here, we need to know from where they've got our emails...

You're a smart one.

My app/android email =/= my bitstamp email.

Others?

[Dragonkiller]

ok here is something to think about, who of you use and android ? and use the same email for google account with Bitstamp? it could be a Bitcoin related APP.... I need some co-operation here, we need to know from where they've got our emails...

Don't use android.

Someone on reddit got a reply from stamp support:

Dear xXx, Bitstamp has detected an increase in the number of reports of phishing emails which were also received by some of our clients. Our technical team responded by examining the threat and setting immediate security measures in place to prevent potential risks.
As a precaution we have also applied this security measure to your account.
If you have received any emails with suspicious content and have opened links or attachments we highly recommend that you immediately contact a computer expert.
While we appreciate that this comes as an inconvenience we are convinced that our security precautions are in accordance with your expectations in keeping your account secure.
If you consider that your system was not affected we kindly ask you to notify us in a reply to this ticket so we can enable your withdrawals again.
Thank you for your understanding.

[mmitech]

Amazed by the amount of people saying they don't use 2FA.

Seriously guys, WTF? How difficult is to download Google Auth on your phone and to set up the 2FA on your exchange account?

Why do you try so hard to be the low-hanging fruit and thus to be hacked?

WHY???

I guess i'm not the only one who worries about losing the phone and doesn't really know how to keep backups of the 2FA stuff properly.

you just write the key down on a paper and save it, do you lose important documents as well ?

[eiprol]

I'm almost sure they had a flaw in security, because as I sad, it was the first time that I was advised to activate 2fa (in red letters) just after login. And with all this phising emails (probably gotten on that 'hack'), and the problem with withdrawals... In the best case, they have just experienced a lot of failed logins recently. In the worst case, its database has been compromised  

Care to wait for the facts instead of making them up?

Aren't we on speculation forum?  

PS: I'm not saying that BTC or FIAT Have been compromised; just that perhaps a bunch of emails do have

[adamstgBit]

all will be revealed shortly.

i strongly recommend panic selling now b4 its to late and price rebounds

[oda.krell]

Amazed by the amount of people saying they don't use 2FA.

Seriously guys, WTF? How difficult is to download Google Auth on your phone and to set up the 2FA on your exchange account?

Why do you try so hard to be the low-hanging fruit and thus to be hacked?

WHY???

I guess i'm not the only one who worries about losing the phone and doesn't really know how to keep backups of the 2FA stuff properly.

That's a good point. May I suggest a solution?

Set up 2FA. You'll get a barcode that you scan with your phone to set it up on there.

But now don't click it away, but prt scrn, and PRINT that barcode on a piece of paper. Hide it somewhere that you deem safe. Maybe your wallet? Or maybe inside your copy of "2000 novel recipes made purely from Matzen"? Something like that.

If you ever lose the phone, or need to re-setup 2FA, get that printout, and scan it.

[johnny211]

you just write the key down on a paper and save it, do you lose important documents as well ?

Yeah well, silly me thought I had to upload my keys to google or some shit to have them stored away from the phone. I'll give it a new try, thanks!

[Dragonkiller]

all will be revealed shortly.

i strongly recommend panic selling now b4 its to late and price rebounds

i already sold and bought back in. might have bought back in too early though  

[Rannasha]

Amazed by the amount of people saying they don't use 2FA.

Seriously guys, WTF? How difficult is to download Google Auth on your phone and to set up the 2FA on your exchange account?

Why do you try so hard to be the low-hanging fruit and thus to be hacked?

WHY???

I guess i'm not the only one who worries about losing the phone and doesn't really know how to keep backups of the 2FA stuff properly.

That's a good point. May I suggest a solution?

Set up 2FA. You'll get a barcode that you scan with your phone to set it up on there.

But now don't click it away, but prt scrn, and PRINT that barcode on a piece of paper. Hide it somewhere that you deem safe. Maybe your wallet? Or maybe inside your copy of "2000 novel recipes made purely from Matzen"? Something like that.

If you ever lose the phone, or need to re-setup 2FA, get that printout, and scan it.

Better yet, print first and then scan the QR code from the print. That ensures that your print is of sufficient quality.

[Dragonkiller]

People that got the email, make a list of all the bitcoin-related sites you've signed up to with that email, we'll be able to figure out where the leak came from by elimination.