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Question: When will bitcoin reach the top of this bull market (i.e. when will it moon)?
Topped at $13,880 in June - 12 (7.7%)
H2 2019 - 16 (10.3%)
H1 2020 - 29 (18.6%)
H2 2020 - 28 (17.9%)
H1 2021 - 12 (7.7%)
H2 2021 - 31 (19.9%)
H1 2022 - 6 (3.8%)
H2 2022 - 4 (2.6%)
H1 2023 - 0 (0%)
H2 2023 - 3 (1.9%)
2024 or Later - 15 (9.6%)
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I need bot. Where do I buy a bot? Exchanges should rent them out like scooters.

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Keep posting graphs of the latest exchange prices on the hour, every hour.

Here's an example of what to post.


Yeah, would be fantastic if somebody could take ChartBuddy’s role of posting graphs of the latest exchange prices on the hour, every hour.

It’s definitely missed.

But call it Tumbleweed.  Or Cricket.  That way it fits when there is a whole page with nothing but tumbleweeds.  or Crickets.  Remember 2015.
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March 20, 2018, 10:20:55 PM

JJG, you make a great point. However, I'm not here to say that the sky is falling down. I really believe in bitcoin, but it looks like we're in one of those times when the price is not likely to rally to ridiculous and delicious new heights. And there will a time we bitcoiners will dance victorious. It's just my opinion that 2018 is just not it.

Tell you what. Let's make a game out of this prediction of mine, what do you propose?

At this point, I don't have a problem of taking you at your word that you truly believe bitcoin to be bearish at this moment.  I just believe such bear assessment is premature.  There just is not enough evidence or time yet.  By the way, I am not the one making any kind of prediction here, I am merely criticizing yours as too much too soon.

By the way, even though many of us understand that there is no exact historical mandate that would cause some kind of exact replication of what had happened previously; however, we can still have approximations and rhyming... So recently, there have been a lot of assertions about whether we are more likely to be in an early 2013 like price scenario or in an early 2014 like price scenario.

Personally, I think that it is more likely that we are in an early 2013 like scenario, and mostly I am of that belief based on the length and slowness of the overall trend and how we got to our present point and even the $20k top.. which I do not assess to be a blow-off top, yet.

However, I surely could be wrong, and I am merely stating that there is not enough evidence yet that we have either already reached the blow off top which would support a conclusion that we are closer to a early 2014 like scenario.

I am not sure what kind of game can be made of this, because the evidence seems premature to be coming to rash conclusions, even though it is also possible that in the longer run, you could be correct - even though to me, it seems that you are prematurely calling something that is not yet reasonable to call.

I cannot really think of any reasonable games that are not just rising to the level of speculative gambling because I, personally, buy more bitcoins if the price is going down and I sell if the price is going up.  I might tweak the amounts a little bit here or there, and my overall belief in bitcoin and my overall bullishness shows in my tendency to attempt to accumulate bitcoins rather than dollars.. So do you have something in mind regarding a game?
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I need bot. Where do I buy a bot? Exchanges should rent them out like scooters.

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Keep posting graphs of the latest exchange prices on the hour, every hour.

Here's an example of what to post.


Yeah, would be fantastic if somebody could take ChartBuddy’s role of posting graphs of the latest exchange prices on the hour, every hour.

It’s definitely missed.

But call it Tumbleweed.  Or Cricket.  That way it fits when there is a whole page with nothing but tumbleweeds.  or Crickets.  Remember 2015.

You party poop pessimist, explorer poorer.   Tongue

Why not call it "action Jackson" or something more animated because it is surely likely to report that we are becoming richer and richer with the passage of time?  Perhaps call it "Lambo Generator?"    Shocked
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You pass the butter

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glade length getting back on track

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Yeah, would be fantastic if somebody could take ChartBuddy’s role of posting graphs of the latest exchange prices on the hour, every hour.

It’s definitely missed.

But call it Tumbleweed.  Or Cricket.  That way it fits when there is a whole page with nothing but tumbleweeds.  or Crickets.  Remember 2015.

You party poop pessimist, explorer poorer.   Tongue

Why not call it "action Jackson" or something more animated because it is surely likely to report that we are becoming richer and richer with the passage of time?  Perhaps call it "Lambo Generator?"    Shocked


The party pooper can't use Tumbleweed. That name's already taken, and so is Cricket.

It's getting so difficult to find a username that isn't taken that someone had to choose pfrtlpfmpf

He considered choosing Perfrumple Fumplmumf, but it's too long.


Perfrumple Fumplmumf

I thought of that, but it was to long . . .


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Yeah, would be fantastic if somebody could take ChartBuddy’s role of posting graphs of the latest exchange prices on the hour, every hour.

It’s definitely missed.

But call it Tumbleweed.  Or Cricket.  That way it fits when there is a whole page with nothing but tumbleweeds.  or Crickets.  Remember 2015.

You party poop pessimist, explorer poorer.   Tongue

Why not call it "action Jackson" or something more animated because it is surely likely to report that we are becoming richer and richer with the passage of time?  Perhaps call it "Lambo Generator?"    Shocked


The party pooper can't use Tumbleweed. That name's already taken, and so is Cricket.

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March 20, 2018, 10:49:13 PM

There's a difference between Being a FUDster and recognizing a downtrend. This year's gonna be bearish or flat. I doubt we'll see prices over $18K this year. I doubt we see prices below $5k this year, or ever again to be honest.

I am not sure if you are NOT a FUDster merely because you attempt to explain your conclusion a bit more that the averabe FUDster.

You have determined that we are in a "downtrend" and you have made a pretty strong statement to cover all of 2018, which seems a bit FUDdish because you are implying to have some kind of decent knowledge or expertise without knowing and predicting a negative outcome without really backing up your claim with any kind of substantial or material evidence - besides your mere statement.

We are in a downtrend.

-60% from ATH

What's to argue here again?

So far we are getting numerous deadcat bounces and no convincing rally re-establishing strength to the 12-15k level.

300 million tether printed, which could or could not pump the price and which may or may not be fraudulent (who knows)?

Meanwhile, Bitcoin's transaction volume dropped dramatically after hitting the ceiling. Thousands of people who were trying to use bitcoin for the first time had an absolutely deplorable first use experience, and might not ever try again. Tx volume is continuing to go down. This is certainly not good if you want another huge rally again soon.

Bitcoin needs to be used as actual currency with increasing levels of tx volume in order to maintain it's value. "Store of value" only was always a laughable joke from the beginning.
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There's a difference between Being a FUDster and recognizing a downtrend. This year's gonna be bearish or flat. I doubt we'll see prices over $18K this year. I doubt we see prices below $5k this year, or ever again to be honest.

I am not sure if you are NOT a FUDster merely because you attempt to explain your conclusion a bit more that the averabe FUDster.

You have determined that we are in a "downtrend" and you have made a pretty strong statement to cover all of 2018, which seems a bit FUDdish because you are implying to have some kind of decent knowledge or expertise without knowing and predicting a negative outcome without really backing up your claim with any kind of substantial or material evidence - besides your mere statement.

We are in a downtrend.

-60% from ATH

What's to argue here again?

So far we are getting numerous deadcat bounces and no convincing rally re-establishing strength to the 12-15k level.

300 million tether printed, which could or could not pump the price and which may or may not be fraudulent (who knows)?

Meanwhile, Bitcoin's transaction volume dropped dramatically after hitting the ceiling. Thousands of people who were trying to use bitcoin for the first time had an absolutely deplorable first use experience, and might not ever try again. Tx volume is continuing to go down. This is certainly not good if you want another huge rally again soon.

Bitcoin needs to be used as actual currency with increasing levels of tx volume in order to maintain it's value. "Store of value" only was always a laughable joke from the beginning.


You touched all the corporate shill bot bcash fudster talking points.  Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!
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Welcome to Bitcoin!

Have you read the white paper?

Here you go
https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

It's a great place to start in your quest to understand Bitcoin.
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Hmm, I must not be seeing what you're seeing, JJG.

Something important that you said is that one can refer to previous periods as general frames of how the market will behave in the immediate future, and I think a lot of people misunderstand that. I'm glad to see you explaining that in such a great way. The price discovery near $13,000 is not sufficiently done, and I think that it will take more than a year to reach back over the heights of last year.

I can't think of anything fun ether. I was hoping to come up with some fun "I told you so", but... yeah. I guess we just wait and see.
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Are we going to get another Bitcointalk whale screwing with the post count to hold back the 20,000th page as we did for the 10,000th? I wonder who that was and what their aim was.
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Are we going to get another Bitcointalk whale screwing with the post count to hold back the 20,000th page as we did for the 10,000th? I wonder who that was and what their aim was.

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This poster proclaiming he's posted on the 10000th is now on page 9805. History will repeat itself.

In on 10.000!
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Hmm, I must not be seeing what you're seeing, JJG.

Something important that you said is that one can refer to previous periods as general frames of how the market will behave in the immediate future, and I think a lot of people misunderstand that. I'm glad to see you explaining that in such a great way. The price discovery near $13,000 is not sufficiently done, and I think that it will take more than a year to reach back over the heights of last year.

I can't think of anything fun ether. I was hoping to come up with some fun "I told you so", but... yeah. I guess we just wait and see.

I think you are looking at different timescales yourself and JJG. On longer timescales bitcoin is still bullish as fuck, it came from literally zero a few years back and now thousands of dollars. On shorter timescales bitcoin is quite bearish though. Your post did come across a bit like FUD but your point is very valid that we are in a bearish wave.  I think the argument is really about the trend, is the trend now bearish or is it still bullish (despite a huge motherfuckn correction). I posted a chart a few days back with both bullish and bearish channels, bullish on longer timescale , bearish on shorter timescale. Only time will tell which trend wins). My own view is that I think bitcoin has fallen too far for a quick return to euphoria. It pains me to say that because I am an original perma bull. I will probly HODL. In long term timescale, bitcoin is still bullish as fuck.
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Are we going to get another Bitcointalk whale screwing with the post count to hold back the 20,000th page as we did for the 10,000th? I wonder who that was and what their aim was.

Yes


This poster proclaiming he's posted on the 10000th is now on page 9805. History will repeat itself.

In on 10.000!

Holy Moly. Someone's autism started twitching big time.
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Hmm, I must not be seeing what you're seeing, JJG.

Something important that you said is that one can refer to previous periods as general frames of how the market will behave in the immediate future, and I think a lot of people misunderstand that. I'm glad to see you explaining that in such a great way. The price discovery near $13,000 is not sufficiently done, and I think that it will take more than a year to reach back over the heights of last year.

I can't think of anything fun ether. I was hoping to come up with some fun "I told you so", but... yeah. I guess we just wait and see.


Sometimes, a friendly bet can be made for fun, and such bet could be used as a hedge against other market positions that are taken.  I would not mind some small bet but sometimes it can be difficult to frame such a bet in a way that each side is willing to take the opposite position. 

You actually asserted a fairly high level of confidence that BTC prices would stay within a range, such as between $5k and $20k for the next year (or it's going to take more than a year to sort out), but you seemed to also give decent odds that BTC prices would stay within even a more narrow range for the next year, so in that regards, you are asserting that the price would not come close to the outside of those outside price points of $5k and $20k. 

There could be room for a bet there if you are willing to narrow your prediction range, but such bet, if we did it, would be merely based on my thinking: 1) the odds of going outside your range are greater than you think and 2) you are premature in your calling such a lengthy consolidation period for the BTC price.   THIS IS BITCOIN, by the way... hahahahahaha...

 If you are willing to state a more narrow range for the BTC price for the next 12 months, I might be willing to make a gentlemen's bet with you regarding your prediction.. that is maybe the closest to a level of conviction game that I could consider at the moment... and especially if we are both coming off as a bit wimpy in what we are willing to call.  The best bets come from folks who take stronger positions, but if you are willing to take what I consider to be a strong position regarding a relatively narrow consolidation period within the next 12 months, I might be wiling to oppose you with mula.
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