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[rafanadal]

Are we ever going to get to use our vegeta memes ?

[bitcoinPsycho]

Are we ever going to get to use our vegeta memes ?

Yes soon

[Last of the V8s]

any mining pools using lightning to pay out to miners? would that work?

[cAPSLOCK]

any mining pools using lightning? would that work?

It would work great.  For payouts?  Lines directly to exchanges...

In fact I would predict we see the first "industrial" sorts of channels going up for those scenarios.

[Last of the V8s]

whoa JimboToronto you and yours safe indoors?
Rosewater?

[d_eddie]

any mining pools using lightning? would that work?

It would work great.  For payouts?  Lines directly to exchanges...

In fact I would predict we see the first "industrial" sorts of channels going up for those scenarios.

One problem I see is that these channels would be unidirectional, in the sense of hard to balance out, unless I'm missing something about this use case. Besides, maximum channel capacity is still seriously limited to "pocket change" amounts (that's on purpose, for safety), so LN won't be terribly useful for payouts until the limits are raised.

[El duderino_]

I could be glib and point out the 'cash' in the title.

Are you fucking serious right now ? That's your ultimate argument ? It had 'cash' in the title, therefore Bitcoin Cash is the real Bitcorn ?

Go fuck yourself you disingenuous bellend.

There is really no arguing this point. They worked. To the point that freeking _payment_processors_ accepted zero conf txs.

Those "freeking" <sic> _payment_processors_ are fucking retarded for accepting zero confirmation Bitcorn transactions.

OK, go ahead and 'rip me a new asshole'. Big boy.

I'm not sure why I unignored you to begin with. I saw people Meriting your posts and thought I should give you another "try" - so to speak - but, TBH, I really don't have the desire to engage with, nor discuss a hostile fork of Bitcorn with you or any other of Roger's disciples.

It's like trying to convince an Mohammedan to eat bacon. No good will come of it.

Back on ignore you go.

Permanently.

Still stupid the pump bcash is having This moment
No good Will come of iT ;-) but how long Will iT last before Going back down

Hey Mic, I think I have never read if you already sold all your Bcash or not... Did you? If not, this doesn't look like a bad moment to sell, at least, some more.

Bcash is the only Fork i did sell all.... but thanks for saying

[El duderino_]

Thing seem to be on track for a static month. Come the middle of May I feel like the big short is coming as all this manipulation of alts will climax. The dump will be brutal and capitulation widespread.

I could care less about what happens to alt manipulation, but I'm agreeing with your assessment with another (for the sake of argument) "static month" for BTC price-action.

I'm fully expecting to lose 'Goosens $12,888 guesstimation-game with my vote cast for April 29th, 2018.

At this rate, I'll be amazed if we try to find stability around $10k by June 31st, 2018.

April 29 looks little bit to FAST but hopefully its time to buckle up and Just crush a few 5-digit Numbers , could be Nice to see ATH @summer times been followed by eternal ATH’s for BTC together with lows on bcash

I actually never have given a thought what my own date would be on those lists..... 

[infofront]

whoa JimboToronto you and yours safe indoors?
Rosewater?

Rosewater seems to be handling the flooding well.

[El duderino_]

Would there be Many on the list besides jbreher if i would pay out in bcash....??   

[Last of the V8s]

whoa JimboToronto you and yours safe indoors?
Rosewater?

Rosewater seems to be handling the flooding well.

img]https://i.imgur.com/Mfs1Dyb.jpg[/img]

seems to be a van attack

[Ludwig Von]

Would there be Many on the list besides jbreher if i would pay out in bcash....??   

Joke of the day Michel, een meritje!

[jbreher]

Surely, zero confirmation transactions contradict satoshi's vision whether we are talking about the whitepaper itself or other implementation statements from Satoshi...

Surely, then, you can support your outrageous claim with quotes from the whitepaper or other implementation statements from Satoshi, which specifically show zero conf txs to be in contradiction, right?

inb4: 'I'm not going to <blah blah blah>'

[Peter R]

I could be glib and point out the 'cash' in the title. But I don't have to. Back before the tx volume got big enough to be chronically delayed to the 'next' block, zero conf txs were routine.

There is really no arguing this point. They worked. To the point that freeking _payment_processors_ accepted zero conf txs.

Here's a website that tracks 0-conf double-spend attempts on BCH:

https://doublespend.cash/

It is very rare for the transaction broadcast second to be confirmed in a block, even when it offers a higher fee.  

And 0-conf can be improved further, for example with double-spend relaying so that merchants can quickly detect fraud attempts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAt6B7b4GeM

Or by more finely-grained proof-of-work to discourage miners from facilitating fraud:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXFuNkaYcPQ

[xhomerx10]

whoa JimboToronto you and yours safe indoors?
Rosewater?

 Jimbo doesnt live in that area... I cant imagine there'd be reason for him to venture up that way.

[vroom]

This user is currently ignored.

who cares, this is a bitcoin forum

[jbreher]

So why spend all this time on the topic of supposed value of zero confirmations,

Well, for my part, I am just continuing the conversation that ensued when BobLawblaw issued an edict* that zero conf 'was not the way Bitcoin is supposed to work' (* I guess BLB doesn't understand 'permissionless'). Why are _you_ spending all this time on the topic?

[explorer]

Quality investment advice:

https://vimeo.com/264812431


Unrelated - we are now in the second longest stretch without a recession since 1929

Those elastic measuring sticks...

[jbreher]

ouch. my asshole. 

I could be glib and point out the 'cash' in the title.

Are you fucking serious right now ? That's your ultimate argument ? It had 'cash' in the title, therefore Bitcoin Cash is the real Bitcorn ?

Well, it is obviously NOT my ultimate argument, as I went on to point out...

There is really no arguing this point. They worked. To the point that freeking _payment_processors_ accepted zero conf txs.

Those "freeking" <sic> _payment_processors_ are fucking retarded for accepting zero confirmation Bitcorn transactions.

They had a business model that was profitable in accepting zero conf at the time when Bitcoin was not perma-backlogged. You claim it is retarded to make money? Retardation comes in many guises. Some can apparently be found in mirrors in Montana and Texas.

OK, go ahead and 'rip me a new asshole'. Big boy.

Back on ignore you go.

Permanently.

aw. you hurt my feelings. again. 

[gembitz]

Good mornin' Bitcoinland.

Still going sideways trying to pass $9k... currently $8920USD/$11444CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Maybe this week will get it done.

In the meantime, ho hum.

 

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