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[Tyr808]

What did he meant by "let's see if the bears have the balls to double our money"?

It means If they try to lower btc's value to $4.5k, it will be a matter of time for btc to jump back at $8-9k+. At $4-5k It is no brainer to buy some. It is a sure bet. Easy money.

Don't you think btc will make a comeback and hit at least $9k again? If it goes lower, than 6k, it just means free money.

According to what it will bounce to 9k?

My experience. I'm a farseer.

You just pull numbers out your ass.

[mindrust]

What did he meant by "let's see if the bears have the balls to double our money"?

It means If they try to lower btc's value to $4.5k, it will be a matter of time for btc to jump back at $8-9k+. At $4-5k It is no brainer to buy some. It is a sure bet. Easy money.

Don't you think btc will make a comeback and hit at least $9k again? If it goes lower, than 6k, it just means free money.

According to what it will bounce to 9k?

My experience. I'm a farseer.

You just pull numbers out your ass.

Who doesn't? Show me one.

[Tyr808]

Ha you have a point I must admit.

[realr0ach]

Just for posterity, a reminder to all the clueless people in this thread that me + tera were the only remotely accurate forecasts in this thread so far.  Let's take a trip through memory lane.  Look at the dates.

First, December 2017:

Why am I getting ads with retarded looking, giant hook-nosed Jews telling me to buy bitcoin AT THE TOP?

Then the bottom call for $4000's in December that other people didn't start calling until this month:

Chart indicates 2 shakeouts before the pump, then price returns to the average of the bottom of the 1st and 2nd shakeout.  So bitcoin around $4200 incoming.  Probably won't happen till after Martin Looter Coon day.

Then more Jewish media propaganda is put out to try and get people to not sell shitcoins at the top of the bubble:

It's easy to tell what you should be buying.  All you really need to know is, ALL media is Jewish media.  Do you think Harry Dent actually buys all these ads?  HELL NO.  He's a shabbos goyim.  The Comex is forwarding all their contracts to London recently - that's a TECHNICAL DEFAULT.  And how could it not have happened when it's the only asset on earth not in a bubble?  The Jews want to keep people from buying physical silver or gold at all costs:

And the same Jew from December is back again at the bottom:

And another red flag cryptocucks are getting fleeced soon:

Tera's call below.  He was mostly saying it could flash crash to horrific levels of like $1k then stabilize at $3k.  My call was more along the lines of a flash crash to $3k then going back up and stabilizing at $4200-4400.  We will see who wins:

Tera's bottom call was $3000 and said that was "generous" and wouldn't be surprised if it went to $1000 again.  My call was more generous and was something like $4200-4400 just from looking at how other bubbles besides bitcoin have behaved.  Regardless, there should be a long drawn out bear market after that parabolic blow-off top at $20k and it's going to go sideways at some number you will not like for many months/over a year.  

Feels like it wants to slow bleed out and go right back to where it came from (the $3k-ish area) before it decides if it will pump and dump again or just fade into obscurity.

[Robin,Hood]

What did he meant by "let's see if the bears have the balls to double our money"?

It means If they try to lower btc's value to $4.5k, it will be a matter of time for btc to jump back at $8-9k+. At $4-5k It is no brainer to buy some. It is a sure bet. Easy money.

Don't you think btc will make a comeback and hit at least $9k again? If it goes lower, than 6k, it just means free money.

According to what it will bounce to 9k?

You dont need to be a brain surgeon to figure it out if you look at trendline and price.

Quote from: mymenace on Today at 05:42:44 AM
very important people want mark strung up

except roach

Oh contraire, Karpeles is a Jew, so now you know why your money was stolen, goyim.  But wait, Jews usually don't scam alone; there's usually a whole pack of Jews in on the scam.  Funny isn't it how noone else was ever caught or investigated and how Karpeles gets a slap on the wrist...

Karpeles = descendant of the wise one.
http://forebears.io/surnames/karpeles#meaning

[realr0ach]

You dont need to be a brain surgeon to figure it out if you look at trendline and price.
https://i.imgur.com/2iqhAGd.png

And you seriously make believe that a line going upwards at a 45 degree angle infinitely is sustainable?  The market is never allowed to go sideways or...god forbid...down?  You do know that bitcoin is entirely a dollar derivative right? So any decrease in dollar liquidity would also collapse bitcoin.  Has autism gone airborne?  As for dollar liquidity, at some point in the near future it will either collapse to 1/10th of what it is now and blow up all the banks at the same time, or dollars will become extremely liquid...like in Venezeula.  But there's definitely not going to be any smooth graph infinitely upwards in any circumstance.  

If all the banks do blow up, the flight to safety is definitely going to be silver and gold and not shitcoins.  Shitcoins are all extremely high risk assets and nowhere near the base of Exter's Pyramid, so it's impossible for them to win as the unit of account of anything in that scenario.  By buying shitcoins instead of metals, you are literally making the gamble that in the biggest wealth transfer of all time, which nations like China and Russia have all laid out their cards on the table as to what's going to happen, that this is somehow not going to happen, and the objectively riskier and thus inferior unit of account (shitcoins) will somehow win instead.

[Tyr808]

Altucher was literally the face of December's bubble.
That fucker stole 95% of his theories from other people self-improvement books, most importantly that four-legged wellbeing thing.

By the way still amusing to read when he talks about the nastiest shit which happened to him. Probably a manic depressive and admitted several times to have had contemplated suicide.

[Robin,Hood]

You dont need to be a brain surgeon to figure it out if you look at trendline and price.
https://i.imgur.com/2iqhAGd.png

And you seriously make believe that a line going upwards at a 45 degree angle infinitely is sustainable?  The market is never allowed to go sideways or...god forbid...down?  You do know that bitcoin is entirely a dollar derivative right? So any decrease in dollar liquidity would also collapse bitcoin.  Has autism gone airborne?  As for dollar liquidity, at some point in the near future it will either collapse to 1/10th of what it is now and blow up all the banks at the same time, or dollars will become extremely liquid...like in Venezeula.  But there's definitely not going to be any smooth graph upwards in any circumstance.  

If all the banks do blow up, the flight to safety is definitely going to be silver and gold and not shitcoins.  Shitcoins are all extremely high risk assets and nowhere near the base of Exter's Pyramid, so it's impossible for them to be the unit of account of anything.

If you pay attention it already started to flatten out.
Now its "only" 19° back in june 2014 it was at 32°. 45° was sometime in 2011 or thereabouts, have you been deprived of internet in since then?

[realr0ach]

If you pay attention it already started to flatten out.
Now its "only" 19° back in june 2014 it was at 32°. 45° was sometime in 2011 or thereabouts, have you been deprived of internet in since then?
https://i.imgur.com/ovS2AHb.png

That's a completely arbitrary and meaningless line. There's no reason the beginning of the line should begin from the TOP of the first pump and dump instead of the actual base in the first place.  Anyway, you don't need to be a rocket scientist to know a chart claiming the price of bitcoin is going to follow an unsustainable trend to infinity is not correct, especially when it's just a dollar derivative.  You could accomplish such a thing through fraud, though.  

For example, if some guy on Bitfinex controls the market almost entirely by himself, as long as no other big whales are cashing out, he can just continue increasing the leverage on his base stash from 3x, to 10x, to 100x until the price is to the moon, but anybody who attempts to cash out at the top is going to get nothing since it's just a fraudulent book keeping, leverage scam.

[Robin,Hood]

Here is progression of the trendline
end of 2011 47°


june 2014 32°


now 19° and price well below

[jojo69]

oh noes

only 19° ?

fuck this shit...where can I get some RETURNS?!?

[realr0ach]

Here is progression of the trendline

end of 2011 47°

june 2014 32°

now 19° and price well below

In other words, the imaginary trendline is garbage and has been invalidated numerous times already otherwise it would not be flattening.

[Tyr808]

What a bunch of shit charts. Thanks goodness the Ignore button exists.

[becoin]

By the end of July we shall see price above $10k.

[realr0ach]

By the end of July we shall see price above $10k.

At any second Bitfinex owners and their tether scam can bring the price there by fraud.  But they move the price through trading on their own exchange and using fractional reserve.  So that's the catch, they will not attempt a fractional reserve pump and dump scam unless they know they can find buyers at the top of the pump.  Otherwise their fractional reserve fraud implodes and they steal all customer funds while claiming they got hacked like they did right after the halving.  

This is why the scammy tether audit by those lawyers is a joke.  All they're saying is "on this specific date, we are currently not engaged in a huge fractional reserve scam, but we would like to be in the future again".  This is also why they use tethers in the first place, as a loophole to try and prevent regulators from examining their activities, because using dollars would bring their fractional reserve pump and dumps more scrutiny.  It's a bucketshop where they trade on their own exchange and both naked long and naked short.

The entire staff of Bitfinex should be in prison for criminal conspiracy, fraud, and numerous other charges (as well as a lot of people in the US banking system, but that's a different story).

[mymenace]

Nov 29, 2002 - Shiing Shen Chern.
http://www.mathnet.or.kr/file/news94_2_39.pdf
Cryptographic Properties of Rational Functions over Binary Fields

A Cryptosystem using Braid Groups
Some Historical Remarks on Elliptic Curves
A Public Key Cryptosystem Scheme Based on the Reed-Solomon Code
The Arithmetic of Signed Binary Fields for Elliptic Curve Cryptosystem
Identity Based Authenticated Key Agreement Protocol from Pairing
Computational Tools for Stock Price Analysis
An Efficient Identity Based Syncryption Scheme Based on Pairing

[realr0ach]

[kurious]

MtGox enters Civil Rehabilitation:
https://mtgox-creditors.com/

Fingers crossed...

[Last of the V8s]

[TERA2]

I have to admit it was funny when we were at 20K and there were all those youtube ads with that Jewish guy walking around his house full of bling telling you how hes been talking to the guys at the casino and bitcoin is just getting started because those two pizzas. And the banner ads with ugly rich looking guys now subtitled with something about Bitcoin who I knew probably never had anything to do with bitcoin. I coudn't have charted a better sell indicator.