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Question: When will bitcoin reach the top of this bull market (i.e. when will it moon)?
Topped at $13,880 in June - 8 (5.8%)
H2 2019 - 15 (10.9%)
H1 2020 - 26 (18.8%)
H2 2020 - 26 (18.8%)
H1 2021 - 11 (8%)
H2 2021 - 27 (19.6%)
H1 2022 - 6 (4.3%)
H2 2022 - 4 (2.9%)
H1 2023 - 0 (0%)
H2 2023 - 2 (1.4%)
2024 or Later - 13 (9.4%)
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July 18, 2018, 08:06:55 PM


What's the actual tax rate in the states, anyway? In my country it's about 80%. 50% income tax, 25% sales tax and a whole bunch of taxes that are not openly advertised on anything you buy adding up to another 50%.

How much of your labor needs to be taken away before you no longer consider yourself "free"?

Then, there are property taxes. These vary widely and are based on the value of your home. Mine are something like $2,400/year.

State sales tax is typically around 6-7%. There is no federal sales tax.

There are other taxes, which are hidden from most people, such as corporate income taxes, gasoline tax, etc.

Man, I wish my RE taxes were this low.
In TX they are INSANELY high.
$10K on a moderately valued home. It's a high replacement of state tax.
I am not retired, but a typical retiree cannot pay this.

Ouch. The governments will take their pound of flesh one way or another I guess.


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July 18, 2018, 08:10:07 PM

Just take the taxes side of things. You can't own the house because of the property taxes. You can't go anywhere without paying the taxes on the gas. You can't leave the country if you owe the IRS.
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So it's fine if you're a statist cuck with no ambition. But it's no place for a sovereign individual.

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I merit you for passion, and for balancing out the anarcho-libertarian madness that we exhibit here.

Now... why not chill the feck out.
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July 18, 2018, 08:15:42 PM

If I could get away with a flat 20% tax on my gains I would pay it with a fucking smile. But I bet it's gonna be more than that when they eventually implement it. Gotta get to work on moving to brazil or wherever, probably don't have much time left.

Yes yes. If you are really paying 80% GTFO of dodge!
At the same time, we are probably among the least fucked nations in the west. So, dilemma.

I have high hopes for Puerto Rico (no doubt to be dashed, as usual). 75% white, proper english, nice weather. Can't think of anywhere else that looks better on paper.
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July 18, 2018, 08:20:06 PM

CBOE futures expired a few minutes ago. Let's see if Lord Bogdanoff is at the tiller of this ship or not.
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July 18, 2018, 08:20:58 PM

The Blackrock rag is almost over. Couldn't have happened to a nicer coin tho.

*Rosewater sparkles in despair*

j/k

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July 18, 2018, 08:22:38 PM

If you have or require a pass-port, pass-code, pass-word your not free. You may pass the barrier with the correct documentation.
Prisons i think use pass-cards to go from a to b.
Migrating birds dont renew travel documents or obtain visas when they decide to go because they are free.
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July 18, 2018, 08:24:21 PM

Freedom is not something that can be given. It is something you take. In a world where governments outgun the people, true freedom simply can not exist.
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July 18, 2018, 08:25:47 PM

75% white

No offence, but have you seen some white people? Ghastly. Embarrassed
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July 18, 2018, 08:35:24 PM

75% white

No offence, but have you seen some white people? Ghastly. Embarrassed
Yes, but we still have the best countries. That's why the rest of the world want to come here. It's just the current crop that are absolutely lousy.
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July 18, 2018, 08:41:59 PM

You can pay 0% taxes to the US if you leave the US and only take out $35k in capital gains per year.

Or make less than $100k in income.

Again. You have to leave the US to avoid such extortions.
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July 18, 2018, 08:53:40 PM

You can pay 0% taxes to the US if you leave the US and only take out $35k in capital gains per year.

Or make less than $100k in income.

Again. You have to leave the US to avoid such extortions.


I guess there are places in the world where $35k a year goes a very long way. In fact, I imagine half that would do in a lot of places.

(I hope.)
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July 18, 2018, 08:59:10 PM

You can pay 0% taxes to the US if you leave the US and only take out $35k in capital gains per year.

Or make less than $100k in income.

Again. You have to leave the US to avoid such extortions.


I guess there are places in the world where $35k a year goes a very long way. In fact, I imagine half that would do in a lot of places.

(I hope.)

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July 18, 2018, 09:04:20 PM

You can move to a US unincorporated territory (not state), you wont be able to vote while resident there but can remain a citizen and not pay federal income taxes.   Afaik USA is the only country to want citizens living and earning money in another sovereign nation and yet you must pay income taxes to the USA anyway or forfeit your passport and pay an exit fee.


The current highs are in line with the start of July as a trend, it failed then and now forms some resistance but I think 7700 is more likely to be found as a proper top or ceiling to navigate which was march lows and June top pricing.

CBOE futures expired a few minutes ago. Let's see if Lord Bogdanoff is at the tiller of this ship or not.
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July 18, 2018, 09:23:09 PM

I'm just going to go ahead and ask you all to stop talking about beer for a minute.

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July 18, 2018, 09:23:26 PM

75% white

No offence, but have you seen some white people? Ghastly. Embarrassed



White??? I'm glad I'm a pinkish beige color, or as some call it, flesh-colored.

Tans up much better.

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July 18, 2018, 09:27:11 PM

Ok, assuming for the sake of argument that $3k is nonsense. There are some good looking white people. Not me personally, but I've seen some. 
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July 18, 2018, 09:29:24 PM

Ok, assuming for the sake of argument that $3k is nonsense. There are some good looking white people. Not me personally, but I've seen some.  

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Repost all the things.

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