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how many % would be in favor for an ETF approval ?
most in here saying its gonna be refused for at least a year or so.....
I’d love it to be approved because it means more money will pour into bitcoin which means a higher price for bitcoin. What I want & what I think is different though.....I think all bitcoin ETF attempts will be denied for a while yet.
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July 25, 2018, 10:30:22 AM |
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how many % would be in favor for an ETF approval ?
most in here saying its gonna be refused for at least a year or so.....
I’d love it to be approved because it means more money will pour into bitcoin which means a higher price for bitcoin. What I want & what I think is different though.....I think all bitcoin ETF attempts will be denied for a while yet. what would be the biggest factor for approval in your opinion ? and yes everything thats a moneyflow into crypto is good ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) but everything on its time we are patient ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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July 25, 2018, 10:41:19 AM |
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how many % would be in favor for an ETF approval ?
most in here saying its gonna be refused for at least a year or so.....
I’d love it to be approved because it means more money will pour into bitcoin which means a higher price for bitcoin. What I want & what I think is different though.....I think all bitcoin ETF attempts will be denied for a while yet. what would be the biggest factor for approval in your opinion ? and yes everything thats a moneyflow into crypto is good ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) but everything on its time we are patient ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) They need a set of nominally compliant exchanges - no wash trading or spoofing allowed lol
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July 25, 2018, 10:41:35 AM |
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July 25, 2018, 10:42:24 AM |
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July 25, 2018, 11:18:38 AM |
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This is really, REALLY cringeworthy. You don’t think Rick would enjoy you serenading him with it playing a guitar wearing nothing but a cowboy hat & boots then?
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
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July 25, 2018, 11:48:45 AM |
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interesting article. thanks. so i may have the option of taking tax money that otherwise would be paid to the government and more or less wasted and instead pick my own areas and technologies to invest it in instead. and it helps the little guys. im in. although it sounds too good to be true to be honest. and its new and untested. never had a problem with new and untested things before, as long as i can figure risk/reward ratios fairly well. Well, not quite. At least I don't think so. Bear in mind I just learned about it yesterday. But rather than being able to redirect your tax money, it is actually the money that you invest through this program is not taxed (for ten years, profits to be tax free, etc...). But overall looks like a very attractive program. Help bootstrap a needy community of your choice, and get a very favorable tax treatment. replied in other thread for this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4740118.msg42845512#msg42845512
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July 25, 2018, 12:16:45 PM |
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This is really, REALLY cringeworthy. @flibbr ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7fZcbYI.jpg&t=665&c=35FjGkA-QNKmJw)
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July 25, 2018, 12:30:11 PM |
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Current price surge for Bitcoin is mainly based on ETF hype.
Alts are not included in a Bitcoin ETF.
But likely if it's a rules change that allows Bitcoin to get ETF approval, other alts will try to get ETF approval.
The SEC then becomes the gatekeeper of which alts rise with Bitcoin.
Which is why we won’t get a Bitcoin ETF. SEC doesn’t want the headache of a Bcash lol ETF or a Ripple ETF. They could just decide to only allow bitcoin and nothing else? Gold standard or whatever rationalization they wanna come up with.
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July 25, 2018, 01:22:41 PM |
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July 25, 2018, 01:30:25 PM |
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I left checking prices for last few days and it is above $8000 now. What is the reason ?
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July 25, 2018, 01:40:31 PM |
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I left checking prices for last few days and it is above $8000 now. What is the reason ?
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July 25, 2018, 01:55:09 PM |
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a shady exchange
Is it? Is this WEX above board? I'm not hip to all the goings-on. I know the vampire squid owns Poloniex now. Did WEX get got by fatcats? Or what exactly. Well last July 2017, they got seized by the US Govt (they were operating as BTC-e), some of their bank accounts were seized and the websites, but I believe that they were able to keep a large majority of the crypto, based on their own self reporting. About a month and a half later, they reopened as WEX and did a Bitfinex style socializing of the loss (about 40%-ish), and they issued tokens that they said would be reimbursed. In the ensuing year, they have not been able to regenerate their previous trade volume and it appears that a lot of folks are trying to withdraw their funds, which seems to snowball, including WEX restricting withdrawals which continues to exacerbate the lack of confidence problem and the run on the exchange. So accordingly confidence has been lost about whether WEX has enough money to cover all deposits, and surely they have been a whole hell-of-a lot less profitable after reopening because they have not been able to return to their former self (trade volume wise). There is likely some other continued legal wrangling behind the scenes too because they USA Govt does not give up in terms of attempting to prosecute folks that they can find associated with the exchange, and that could be continuing to affect their operations and their expenses.. and may even motivate them to do an exit scam if they cannot pay everyone or to cover their expenses. I believe it was proven the Mt.Gox coins were washed there as well as other ransomeware coins, but DYOR.
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July 25, 2018, 02:12:16 PM |
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Visualizing Lightning Network: 119x growth from 61 to 7246 channels in 6 months ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F85VnbXO.jpg&t=665&c=UKNK-s5I4tdjKQ) Bigger image: https://i.imgur.com/85VnbXO.jpg
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July 25, 2018, 02:59:15 PM |
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Good Vid on current situation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH87sZxg-98A small dump ,enough to see tera coming back ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ?? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUSs6n0N.gif&t=665&c=6aa-i3OHxbMz_w) that was nice to see. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Can someone with knowledge of the ETF markets comment on this? It reads to me like the market manipulation safeguards are not in place for an ETF to be passed YET but are being implemented now (Coinbase/Goldman-Sachs) and that the futures (CME/Cboe) are not adequate for acceptance. https://www.sec.gov/comments/sr-nysearca-2018-02/nysearca201802-3676326-162451.pdfSorry trying to quote out of a pdf is a pain and I'm not going to reformat by hand (if anyone has a tool that will do this please link). b. The Commodity Futures Trading Commission ( CFTC ) asserted authority over virtual currencies like Bitcoin as commodities under the Commodit y Exchange Act in 2014. It worked with futures exchanges regarding the launch of Bitcoin futures referencing Bitcoin spot markets, and following the launch of the futures contracts the CFTC published documents stating “the CFTC not only has clear legal aut hority, but now also will have the means to police certain underlying spot markets for fraud and manipulation” through “heightened review” collaboration with exchanges , including exchanges “providing the CFTC surveillance team with trade settlement data upon request” and exchanges entering “information -sharing agreements with spot market platforms to allow access to trade and trader data” and monitoring the spot markets data for “anomalies and disproportionate moves” relati ve to the futures markets. 12 In another announcement, the CFTC stated its expectation that “the futures exchanges, through information sharing agreements, will be monitoring the trading activity on the relevant cash platforms for potential impacts on the fu tures contracts’ price discovery process, including potential market manipulation and market dislocations.” 13 c. In addition, Gemini, the digital currency exchange whose Bitcoin auction is used to determine the settlement price of the Bitcoin XBT futures contracts that trade on Cboe’s CFE Exchange, announced on April 25, 2018 that it would use Nasdaq’s SMARTS Market Surveillance system to “monitor [its] marketplace” and “become a marketleader in custom surveillance rule creation and alerting for the crypto -asset market” in order to build “a rules -based marketplace.” 14 d. Some sort of m arket surveillance is generally a prerequisite to identifying potential market manipulation , as well as creating incentives to discourage market manipulation . The emergence of institutionalized market surveillance on both futures and spot markets in Bitcoin products is thus a positive sign for the long -term future of Bitcoin markets . e. As a result of reinvigorated harmonization efforts, t he SEC , in coordination with the CFTC, self -regulatory organizations (SROs), Bitcoin futures excha nges, and Bitcoin spot market platforms , can gather the market surveillance data to support an independent analysis of trade and settlement patterns . This analysis could be used to determine the extent, if any, to which potentially manipulative trading practices occur on Bitcoin spot and futures markets, and compare that analysi s to an analysis of longstanding markets under the SEC or CFTC’s jurisdiction.
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July 25, 2018, 03:32:32 PM |
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Good morning Bitcoinland.. It looks like the rally has slowed down a little... currently $8122USD/$10633CAD (Bitcoinaverage). ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWL6AAeo.jpg&t=665&c=0vf5KvefpKXj-Q) Oh boo hoo.
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blah blah blah schelling point blah blah blah centralized craptocurrency blah blah blah the evil jews blah blah blah silver... <daily stormer link to some nonsense> there ya go... I saved the troll his trouble
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July 25, 2018, 03:57:42 PM |
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The only reason I don't mind bcash hanging around. Will not be using no matter what and if forced or else.....good bye and hello bcash. This was forced upon with the aid of ltd otherwise it would never be came about and also bcash would not exist, all be happy days. From then on became very suspicious of the Lee character.
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Any day above $10k is a good day. Are we there yet?
Soon. I'm prepared to accept that. Ok. Remember how I said "Soon" ? Yeah, well, it's going to be a bit later than sooner ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Sorry about that. Sheeit. Just a healthy correction, refuelling the rocket & some are taking profits. We’ll see $9,000 by this time next week.
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July 25, 2018, 04:23:18 PM |
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Good article. That was an explanation for the recent rally that I hadn't heard before.
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