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Question: When will bitcoin reach the top of this bull market (i.e. when will it moon)?
Topped at $13,880 in June - 10 (6.8%)
H2 2019 - 15 (10.1%)
H1 2020 - 29 (19.6%)
H2 2020 - 26 (17.6%)
H1 2021 - 12 (8.1%)
H2 2021 - 28 (18.9%)
H1 2022 - 6 (4.1%)
H2 2022 - 4 (2.7%)
H1 2023 - 0 (0%)
H2 2023 - 3 (2%)
2024 or Later - 15 (10.1%)
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December 19, 2018, 10:11:58 PM

hey Mic

due to my proprietary trading algorithm I am able to offer 12% guaranteed returns

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December 19, 2018, 10:17:02 PM

Hardly any shorts closed at all.  Just get all comfy and short to your hearts content. LOL  Longs have been closing almost as soon as they open.  Not a very good sign for an extended bull run.
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December 19, 2018, 10:19:47 PM

Well done goldcoinkinger. Grin
Glad to see my trading lessons are beginning to sink in at last Cool

Thank you, sensei. The daily alcohol intake was rough on my liver but I did everything exactly like you told me!


Here's a bit about it from cnn.

https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-price-moon/



I swear you're going to have me standing outside staring at the moon at some point.
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December 19, 2018, 10:27:54 PM

the owner said that the last month 50K travelled in and out the ATM

50K what?

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now the owner talked to us and my first question was how can you guarantee that 10% profit each month on the investment?
so it works like transfer money or send BTC, cause he only works in BTC
then he daytrades and guarantee's 10% profit, so if i transfer funds and the month start he trades and makes 50% profit then each client gets 10% profit and the rest is for him the company etc, when the month end with loss or no 10% profit then he pays it from the company out.... i asked him what if i'm a big player and send you a big amount of BTC/fiat ... and your not able to give me mine 10% ? he said i don't accept anyone that i can't cover .... as strange as it is it seems a bit of legit thing right there ....
and if the company goes bad and he's company funds runs dry and can't cover the 10% profit anymore he would send everyone a mail and stop the collaboration with he's clients, every month everybody could make his decisions of staying in or going out, so no long term commitments

Unless you have full visibility into all the positions he is taking, then this is indistinguishable from First Pirate Bitcoin Savings and Trust. Tread very carefully. May be ponzi.
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December 19, 2018, 10:30:49 PM
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infofront is right, it is a possibility 3000 or 2900 and it goes up.
I hope to see the Toxic2040 graphic
the shorts are increasing

img -snipped-

I appreciate the mention but my doodle's are sort of like my baking possibly...looks great at 10+ feet. Plenty of better chartist's around.




None of the kid's' could figure what this was...oh well. My Trump in the lower left above didn't go ever so well either.



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As Marcus mentioned, we are now at or approaching positive ROI for mining again. Seems good to me. I think we will see the price consolidate in this range for the next few days or so.

Happy Holiday's everyone.
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December 19, 2018, 10:34:14 PM
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Hardly any shorts closed at all.  Just get all comfy and short to your hearts content. LOL  Longs have been closing almost as soon as they open.  Not a very good sign for an extended bull run.


I do hope I'm wrong on this one but take a look for yourself.   Shorts just are not closing.  They just keep going up.

https://datamish.com/d/000000004/btcusd?refresh=20s&orgId=1
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December 19, 2018, 10:45:23 PM

Hardly any shorts closed at all.  Just get all comfy and short to your hearts content. LOL  Longs have been closing almost as soon as they open.  Not a very good sign for an extended bull run.


I do hope I'm wrong on this one but take a look for yourself.   Shorts just are not closing.  They just keep going up.

https://datamish.com/d/000000004/btcusd?refresh=20s&orgId=1
Possibly because longs are more forward thinking than shorts? Or because [tinfoil]the institutions are shorting the shit out of Bitcorn so they can OTC at better rates[/tinfoil].
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December 19, 2018, 10:45:56 PM

infofront is right, it is a possibility 3000 or 2900 and it goes up.
I hope to see the Toxic2040 graphic
the shorts are increasing

img -snipped-

I appreciate the mention but my doodle's are sort of like my baking possibly...looks great at 10+ feet. Plenty of better chartist's around.

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None of the kid's' could figure what this was...oh well. My Trump in the lower left above didn't go ever so well either.

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As Marcus mentioned, we are now at or approaching positive ROI for mining again. Seems good to me. I think we will see the price consolidate in this range for the next few days or so.

Happy Holiday's everyone.
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Nice scotch cookies. I'd eat them. +1 WOsMerit (someone please)
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December 19, 2018, 10:46:13 PM

the owner said that the last month 50K travelled in and out the ATM

50K what?

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now the owner talked to us and my first question was how can you guarantee that 10% profit each month on the investment?
so it works like transfer money or send BTC, cause he only works in BTC
then he daytrades and guarantee's 10% profit, so if i transfer funds and the month start he trades and makes 50% profit then each client gets 10% profit and the rest is for him the company etc, when the month end with loss or no 10% profit then he pays it from the company out.... i asked him what if i'm a big player and send you a big amount of BTC/fiat ... and your not able to give me mine 10% ? he said i don't accept anyone that i can't cover .... as strange as it is it seems a bit of legit thing right there ....
and if the company goes bad and he's company funds runs dry and can't cover the 10% profit anymore he would send everyone a mail and stop the collaboration with he's clients, every month everybody could make his decisions of staying in or going out, so no long term commitments

Unless you have full visibility into all the positions he is taking, then this is indistinguishable from First Pirate Bitcoin Savings and Trust. Tread very carefully. May be ponzi.
50K fiat worth, but all by 100-200 euro etc, it think its a lot for the first there in antwerp ... (so its just many customers buying BTC, like it ) Wink



and i'm not doing this or anything just cause its the first real house with something of BTC it made me curious and wanted to check it out....

i was just surprised when he said how its works in he's company there.... just the part when he said if he doesn't make 10% profit by the end of the month, that he paid from he's savings or previous profits etc
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December 19, 2018, 10:50:11 PM

Well done goldcoinkinger. Grin
Glad to see my trading lessons are beginning to sink in at last Cool

Thank you, sensei. The daily alcohol intake was rough on my liver but I did everything exactly like you told me!
Noo. Student bad. Rule 71b no drink only yak milk. Very clear. Else will fat finger.
Wait ooh no drink only yak milk ooh
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December 19, 2018, 10:50:55 PM

My favorite past time is to watch shorts get liquidated.  Cheesy   There's plenty sitting there ready to be demolished for sure:D
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December 19, 2018, 10:53:16 PM

the owner said that the last month 50K travelled in and out the ATM

50K what?

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now the owner talked to us and my first question was how can you guarantee that 10% profit each month on the investment?
so it works like transfer money or send BTC, cause he only works in BTC
then he daytrades and guarantee's 10% profit, so if i transfer funds and the month start he trades and makes 50% profit then each client gets 10% profit and the rest is for him the company etc, when the month end with loss or no 10% profit then he pays it from the company out.... i asked him what if i'm a big player and send you a big amount of BTC/fiat ... and your not able to give me mine 10% ? he said i don't accept anyone that i can't cover .... as strange as it is it seems a bit of legit thing right there ....
and if the company goes bad and he's company funds runs dry and can't cover the 10% profit anymore he would send everyone a mail and stop the collaboration with he's clients, every month everybody could make his decisions of staying in or going out, so no long term commitments

Unless you have full visibility into all the positions he is taking, then this is indistinguishable from First Pirate Bitcoin Savings and Trust. Tread very carefully. May be ponzi.

I am going to bring them a visit in the next days. Although they have a brick and mortar shop, nothing to find in our MinFin databases, so it can be a facade for another entity. Because I also could not find a VAT number or enterprise number. And the name in the proposed contract on their website for now only returns some retired Dutch veolia employee... .
So yes, at least the trading your money part is a bit flimsy... .
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December 19, 2018, 10:55:13 PM

@goldkingcointer is your fat finger crazy long still running?
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December 19, 2018, 11:10:23 PM

My btct name is not that hard to spell. gold-king-coiner. Spell it right. My feelings.

Yes it is running, like me after drinking vodka spiked yak milk.
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December 19, 2018, 11:15:49 PM

Youtubers are looking into bitcoin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zkUoFm6J-w

Now some of you may not know about this, but standard payment processors have been deplatforming some of the biggest political and cultural commentators lately. Alex jones had I think a few million subs, Sargon is closing in on a million, Jordan Peterson is talking about alternative solutions, and many others. Tens of millions of people around the world are looking into it as a result, and it will spread as the media just can not shut up about anything that annoys them. Bullish.
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December 19, 2018, 11:19:39 PM

the owner said that the last month 50K travelled in and out the ATM

50K what?

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now the owner talked to us and my first question was how can you guarantee that 10% profit each month on the investment?
so it works like transfer money or send BTC, cause he only works in BTC
then he daytrades and guarantee's 10% profit, so if i transfer funds and the month start he trades and makes 50% profit then each client gets 10% profit and the rest is for him the company etc, when the month end with loss or no 10% profit then he pays it from the company out.... i asked him what if i'm a big player and send you a big amount of BTC/fiat ... and your not able to give me mine 10% ? he said i don't accept anyone that i can't cover .... as strange as it is it seems a bit of legit thing right there ....
and if the company goes bad and he's company funds runs dry and can't cover the 10% profit anymore he would send everyone a mail and stop the collaboration with he's clients, every month everybody could make his decisions of staying in or going out, so no long term commitments

Unless you have full visibility into all the positions he is taking, then this is indistinguishable from First Pirate Bitcoin Savings and Trust. Tread very carefully. May be ponzi.

I am going to bring them a visit in the next days. Although they have a brick and mortar shop, nothing to find in our MinFin databases, so it can be a facade for another entity. Because I also could not find a VAT number or enterprise number. And the name in the proposed contract on their website for now only returns some retired Dutch veolia employee... .
So yes, at least the trading your money part is a bit flimsy... .
If you should find strong evidence that they are scammers, you might want to consider reporting them.  
I know we generally aren't too gubermint-minded around here, but innocent people getting scammed out of their money is of course in and of itself a bad thing, plus it gives bitcoin a bad reputation.
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If you should find strong evidence that they are scammers, you might want to consider reporting them.  
I know we generally aren't too gubermint-minded around here, but innocent people getting scammed out of their money is of course in and of itself a bad thing, plus it gives bitcoin a bad reputation.

I actualy think he has good intentions.... but is a naive Guy that thinks he can do things that no one did before Roll Eyes
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If you should find strong evidence that they are scammers, you might want to consider reporting them.  
I know we generally aren't too gubermint-minded around here, but innocent people getting scammed out of their money is of course in and of itself a bad thing, plus it gives bitcoin a bad reputation.

I actualy think he has good intentions.... but is a naive Guy that thinks he can do things that no one did before Roll Eyes
For sure, that is possible.  Maybe he has had success trading the markets, and he is now convinced he can keep doing it.
But 10% is a huge amount of profit to promise each month.  Sure, on high volatility months such as this one you could easily make that (if you are lucky and/or a great trader).  But who is crazy enough to promise 10%/month when the price is hardly budging?  Where is that profit going to come from?  He has to be incredibly naive to promise things like that.  

For me (and most people here apparently), promises that crazy raise a lot of suspicion.  
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If you should find strong evidence that they are scammers, you might want to consider reporting them.  
I know we generally aren't too gubermint-minded around here, but innocent people getting scammed out of their money is of course in and of itself a bad thing, plus it gives bitcoin a bad reputation.

I actualy think he has good intentions.... but is a naive Guy that thinks he can do things that no one did before Roll Eyes
For sure, that is possible.  Maybe he has had success trading the markets, and he is now convinced he can keep doing it.
But 10% is a huge amount of profit to promise each month.  Sure, on high volatility months such as this one you could easily make that.  But who is crazy enough to promise 10%/month when the price is hardly budging?  Where is that profit going to come from?  He has to be incredibly naive to promise things like that.  

If its too good to be true, it isn't true. Smells like scam.

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