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the owner said that the last month 50K travelled in and out the ATM
50K what? now the owner talked to us and my first question was how can you guarantee that 10% profit each month on the investment? so it works like transfer money or send BTC, cause he only works in BTC then he daytrades and guarantee's 10% profit, so if i transfer funds and the month start he trades and makes 50% profit then each client gets 10% profit and the rest is for him the company etc, when the month end with loss or no 10% profit then he pays it from the company out.... i asked him what if i'm a big player and send you a big amount of BTC/fiat ... and your not able to give me mine 10% ? he said i don't accept anyone that i can't cover .... as strange as it is it seems a bit of legit thing right there .... and if the company goes bad and he's company funds runs dry and can't cover the 10% profit anymore he would send everyone a mail and stop the collaboration with he's clients, every month everybody could make his decisions of staying in or going out, so no long term commitments
Unless you have full visibility into all the positions he is taking, then this is indistinguishable from First Pirate Bitcoin Savings and Trust. Tread very carefully. May be ponzi. I am going to bring them a visit in the next days. Although they have a brick and mortar shop, nothing to find in our MinFin databases, so it can be a facade for another entity. Because I also could not find a VAT number or enterprise number. And the name in the proposed contract on their website for now only returns some retired Dutch veolia employee... . So yes, at least the trading your money part is a bit flimsy... . If you should find strong evidence that they are scammers, you might want to consider reporting them. I know we generally aren't too gubermint-minded around here, but innocent people getting scammed out of their money is of course in and of itself a bad thing, plus it gives bitcoin a bad reputation.
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El duderino_
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December 19, 2018, 11:25:33 PM |
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If you should find strong evidence that they are scammers, you might want to consider reporting them. I know we generally aren't too gubermint-minded around here, but innocent people getting scammed out of their money is of course in and of itself a bad thing, plus it gives bitcoin a bad reputation.
I actualy think he has good intentions.... but is a naive Guy that thinks he can do things that no one did before
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Spaceman_Spiff_Original
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December 19, 2018, 11:28:48 PM |
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If you should find strong evidence that they are scammers, you might want to consider reporting them. I know we generally aren't too gubermint-minded around here, but innocent people getting scammed out of their money is of course in and of itself a bad thing, plus it gives bitcoin a bad reputation.
I actualy think he has good intentions.... but is a naive Guy that thinks he can do things that no one did before For sure, that is possible. Maybe he has had success trading the markets, and he is now convinced he can keep doing it. But 10% is a huge amount of profit to promise each month. Sure, on high volatility months such as this one you could easily make that (if you are lucky and/or a great trader). But who is crazy enough to promise 10%/month when the price is hardly budging? Where is that profit going to come from? He has to be incredibly naive to promise things like that. For me (and most people here apparently), promises that crazy raise a lot of suspicion.
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goldkingcoiner
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December 19, 2018, 11:29:52 PM |
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If you should find strong evidence that they are scammers, you might want to consider reporting them. I know we generally aren't too gubermint-minded around here, but innocent people getting scammed out of their money is of course in and of itself a bad thing, plus it gives bitcoin a bad reputation.
I actualy think he has good intentions.... but is a naive Guy that thinks he can do things that no one did before For sure, that is possible. Maybe he has had success trading the markets, and he is now convinced he can keep doing it. But 10% is a huge amount of profit to promise each month. Sure, on high volatility months such as this one you could easily make that. But who is crazy enough to promise 10%/month when the price is hardly budging? Where is that profit going to come from? He has to be incredibly naive to promise things like that. If its too good to be true, it isn't true. Smells like scam.
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December 19, 2018, 11:38:41 PM Last edit: December 19, 2018, 11:52:50 PM by Ludwig Von |
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the owner said that the last month 50K travelled in and out the ATM
50K what? now the owner talked to us and my first question was how can you guarantee that 10% profit each month on the investment? so it works like transfer money or send BTC, cause he only works in BTC then he daytrades and guarantee's 10% profit, so if i transfer funds and the month start he trades and makes 50% profit then each client gets 10% profit and the rest is for him the company etc, when the month end with loss or no 10% profit then he pays it from the company out.... i asked him what if i'm a big player and send you a big amount of BTC/fiat ... and your not able to give me mine 10% ? he said i don't accept anyone that i can't cover .... as strange as it is it seems a bit of legit thing right there .... and if the company goes bad and he's company funds runs dry and can't cover the 10% profit anymore he would send everyone a mail and stop the collaboration with he's clients, every month everybody could make his decisions of staying in or going out, so no long term commitments
Unless you have full visibility into all the positions he is taking, then this is indistinguishable from First Pirate Bitcoin Savings and Trust. Tread very carefully. May be ponzi. I am going to bring them a visit in the next days. Although they have a brick and mortar shop, nothing to find in our MinFin databases, so it can be a facade for another entity. Because I also could not find a VAT number or enterprise number. And the name in the proposed contract on their website for now only returns some retired Dutch veolia employee... . So yes, at least the trading your money part is a bit flimsy... . If you should find strong evidence that they are scammers, you might want to consider reporting them. I know we generally aren't too gubermint-minded around here, but innocent people getting scammed out of their money is of course in and of itself a bad thing, plus it gives bitcoin a bad reputation. I don 't know if I would report, I am not to gubermint indeed, or to the contrary even, I am in a fight with our taxman since 2012 lol. But sniffing them and finding out whether honest but naive, or scammers is important for me, if it were only to prevent innocent people falling in the scam. To many bad things already hampering BTC. (Not the level of Ver, Jihan&C° I know, but ok that is another dimension, not my class)
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December 19, 2018, 11:42:50 PM |
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Well, it looks like everything is going according to the best scenario. Either this was the final drop (which I don't think so) or worst case we can go for a final capitulation FROM a higher price (ie: $4.5K to $3K) in January-March.
I also go for the second scenario because I suspect we haven't been able to accumulate enough at the bottom. Next time many will be prepared for a stronger faster bounce on huge volume.
This is fine.
We're still at the bottom. 85% down from ATH. You think peeps who bought at 3200 won't buy at 3900? Laughable. 3900 is still dirt cheap. Why buy at 3900, when I'll be able to buy at 2900 soon? I don't know about 2900, but I will be surprised if 3200 is not heavily tested again. We just touched it for a day, that's not how proper bottom looks like. There should be grind, there should be wall, and only then we can jump up from the bottom for good.
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December 19, 2018, 11:44:54 PM |
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Don't you need to be registered with a special license to manage/trade other people's funds?
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December 19, 2018, 11:49:10 PM |
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My btct name is not that hard to spell. gold-king-coiner. Spell it right. My feelings.
Yes it is running, like me after drinking vodka spiked yak milk.
We found your soft spot, gold kintie? hahahahaha
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bitserve
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December 19, 2018, 11:50:16 PM |
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My btct name is not that hard to spell. gold-king-coiner. Spell it right. My feelings.
Yes it is running, like me after drinking vodka spiked yak milk.
We found your soft point, gold kintie? hahahahaha Hey, leave godlkidcointer alone!
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JayJuanGee
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December 19, 2018, 11:53:23 PM |
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My btct name is not that hard to spell. gold-king-coiner. Spell it right. My feelings.
Yes it is running, like me after drinking vodka spiked yak milk.
We found your soft point, gold kintie? hahahahaha Hey, leave godlkidcointer alone! Hey you fuck.... You better start spelling the gold cat's name KORECKTLY... otherwise.. you gonna get reported.
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December 19, 2018, 11:58:37 PM |
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goitercoiner love us long time
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bitserve
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December 20, 2018, 12:00:32 AM |
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My btct name is not that hard to spell. gold-king-coiner. Spell it right. My feelings.
Yes it is running, like me after drinking vodka spiked yak milk.
We found your soft point, gold kintie? hahahahaha Hey, leave godlkidcointer alone! Hey you fuck.... You better start spelling the gold cat's name KORECKTLY... otherwise.. you gonna get reported. Yeah, tell mom I hurt you bwahahaha Your one liners have no effect on me... I would be much more scared if you threatened to hit me with one of your wall of text combos though.
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December 20, 2018, 12:04:09 AM |
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Would like to make it clear at this time that throughout my time as mentor to kingcoingolder at no time did I touch his soft spot.
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bitserve
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December 20, 2018, 12:06:28 AM |
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That awkward moment when you realise all the other guys are probably posting from their school's computer room and you are the only adult here.
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Last of the V8s
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December 20, 2018, 12:08:08 AM |
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The school computer room is the only place you can get any piece.
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December 20, 2018, 12:08:12 AM |
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One complete and one incomplete candle doth not three complete candles make.
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El duderino_
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December 20, 2018, 12:13:27 AM |
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If you should find strong evidence that they are scammers, you might want to consider reporting them. I know we generally aren't too gubermint-minded around here, but innocent people getting scammed out of their money is of course in and of itself a bad thing, plus it gives bitcoin a bad reputation.
I actualy think he has good intentions.... but is a naive Guy that thinks he can do things that no one did before For sure, that is possible. Maybe he has had success trading the markets, and he is now convinced he can keep doing it. But 10% is a huge amount of profit to promise each month. Sure, on high volatility months such as this one you could easily make that. But who is crazy enough to promise 10%/month when the price is hardly budging? Where is that profit going to come from? He has to be incredibly naive to promise things like that. If its too good to be true, it isn't true. Smells like scam. Yeah have the same thoughts around it ..... But he also Said if Someone would invest very big or to many clients he would stop and Denied more people only trade for what he can provide 10% profit..... Also if a few months are running bad and his reserves are out of BTC he would stop and give the invested money just back Also no fiat gain promises Al money gies directly into BTC and profit also added in BTC I also thinks he’s trying to do something thats to big..... but if he trades and the month is very succesfull Lets say 30% profit, Then its also 10% for the costumer and rest for him, always 10% but also nothing more, i’m not risking this, cause i’m happy with what i am doing, but i was just thinking for complete NEW people.... if its something to suggest or not Probably not (but its the first time i saw BTC logos on Belgium shop Windows )
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El duderino_
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December 20, 2018, 12:15:47 AM |
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Gonna pull myself back into my HODLpit and watch Some TWO TOWERS Goodnight WO’s and fellowship of hodlers
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El duderino_
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December 20, 2018, 12:16:21 AM |
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That awkward moment when you realise all the other guys are probably posting from their school's computer room and you are the only adult here.
iPhone @the moment
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December 20, 2018, 12:17:11 AM |
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