Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[realr0ach]

Another way of looking at things, is that BTC price is a forward indicator. In that case, it is signalling a deflationary economic environment in the medium future (which would be very bad for the whole economy) but holders of the right assets will lose less.  Bond prices are also chiming with this possibility.  I must admit, I really don't like it , because inflation is on balance the less painful alternative ( or at least causes less shocks to the fabric of society).

Since the world is at peak debt and 5000 year low interest rates, the only way to right the ship is massively increase inflation to inflate the debt away, which then enables you to normalize rates again.  However, all the jobs from 1st world nations where financialization is most rampant have outsourced them all to overpopulated countries like China in global labor arbitrage where the value of a human life is zero, and thus so is the value of their labor.

You then have a DOUBLE deflationary attack stemming from only shitty, low paying jobs being left in the first world, financialization countries, and China still exporting deflation onto you on top of that due to their excess population. And illegal Mexicans exporting deflation and lowering wages to boot.  No matter if you're a Jew banker, a white nationalist, or any other thousands of demographics, the only logical option that can be taken at this point is to massively cut or stop trade with China and boot out all the illegal aliens to prevent complete deflationary implosion from permanent suppression of wages.

Globalization is the most idiotic bullshit on earth whose main byproduct is to turn regional overpopulation issues into everyone else's problem even if you live 2000 miles away.  China, India, and the continent of Africa have to be forced to deal with their overpopulation issues themselves instead of trying to export their problem to other people.  It can't go on anymore.  Global labor arbitrage has to be turned off and let the cards fall where they may.

[Gyrsur]

FAKE NEWS!!

Heading towards $4k around October 2020. Forget the "halfing". It was priced in early - 1 year early - and profits got taken in the 12k "fakeout".

That's what bitcoin does folks - what you're not expecting.

New ATH around 2023, 2024, just at long term log charts have been predicting. Time between peaks increasing as marketcap increases.

[Karartma1]

Heading towards $4k around October 2020. Forget the "halfing". It was priced in early - 1 year early - and profits got taken in the 12k "fakeout".

That's what bitcoin does folks - what you're not expecting.

New ATH around 2023, 2024, just at long term log charts have been predicting. Time between peaks increasing as marketcap increases.

Super bearish but... intriguing. If that would be the case I could buy new loads of ammo.

[whiteboy420]

Anyone who wants to know, adam gave up his account, forum admins concluded that this thread was difficult to administer and closed down the thread.  after complaints from forum members, theymos agreed to reopen the thread with a new thread owner that was voted upon by forum member (largely already active WO participants to my recollection).. accordingly, infofront has carried out a very laudable nearly non-interventionist approach that seems to carry out the spirit of the thread in a way that might have even been playing out better than the original version.  Go Figure!!

Yep, just to add to that, the reason the first post was changed wasn't a FU to Adam, but was simply a pragmatic decision because there was no other way to easily change the thread moderation. If anyone has a problem with that, then download the source code for SMF and code a workaround...

Or just fuck off from here because nobody sane would give a fuck about Adam? Seems much simpler than your proposal.

I always liked Adam.

but it´s about preservation of History.

[whiteboy420]

Starting to short after a 44% drop is about as smart as everything else you have said.

I am a simple man.

I see a Trend, i Trade it.


Ps: If you were Greta Thunberg, would you hate Bitcoin ?

[JSRAW]

^Greta : How dare you....

mhmm tok is not normal

[serveria.com]

Heading towards $4k around October 2020. Forget the "halfing". It was priced in early - 1 year early - and profits got taken in the 12k "fakeout".

That's what bitcoin does folks - what you're not expecting.

New ATH around 2023, 2024, just at long term log charts have been predicting. Time between peaks increasing as marketcap increases.

Impossible... whoever pumped the market from $3k to $14k invested hundreds of millions, perhaps billions. You don't just risk with that kind of money - you can risk losing thousands, possibly millions but not billions ffs... so the big guys are sure there's no bear market just a final squeeze to buy more cheap coins. And $4k is not fucking possible after the halving at all. Even with free mining rigs or free electricity. Almost all miners would go bankrupt and hashrate would plummet but it would in fact lead to even higher price - remaining miners won't sell BTC that cheap. Sell now and turn into a roach clone in 2021  

Nuff said... #HODL    

[HairyMaclairy]

Starting to short after a 44% drop is about as smart as everything else you have said.

I am a simple man.

I see a Trend, i Trade it.


Ps: If you were Greta Thunberg, would you hate Bitcoin ?

Please let us know your entry point, leverage ratio and liquidation point.

[NeuroticFish]

Observing a recovery to 8k and the obvious trolling.
I expect a good week and an even better month.

[wachtwoord]

Starting to short after a 44% drop is about as smart as everything else you have said.

I am a simple man.

I see a Trend, i Trade it.


Ps: If you were Greta Thunberg, would you hate Bitcoin ?

Isn't she that smurf that hates everything?

[El duderino_]

Just for all the trolls and bears.....

Price= 7900-8K-ish as we write,

So easy go and sell all your coins and buy back at 2-3K-ish prices or short ....

First point of-course -----> one must have BTC to start with  

[Fatman3001]

Heading towards $4k around October 2020. Forget the "halfing". It was priced in early - 1 year early - and profits got taken in the 12k "fakeout".

That's what bitcoin does folks - what you're not expecting.

New ATH around 2023, 2024, just at long term log charts have been predicting. Time between peaks increasing as marketcap increases.

Super bearish but... intriguing. If that would be the case I could buy new loads of ammo.

Nobody except some true HODLers are expecting 50-100-200 or 300K a coin as well so going that high will be very unexpected for the world as well....

As most of the NO-coiners or people not knowing BTC are exactly expecting low prices or failure...

So sky high prices will be the unexpected

Now go and troll some rookie-newbie threads or something, in here people like you has no voice

You're attacking people who are very much on topic, have legitimate views on the topic, behave in a polite manner and have several years seniority over you.

ignored

[bitcoinPsycho]

Heading towards $4k around October 2020. Forget the "halfing". It was priced in early - 1 year early - and profits got taken in the 12k "fakeout".

That's what bitcoin does folks - what you're not expecting.

New ATH around 2023, 2024, just at long term log charts have been predicting. Time between peaks increasing as marketcap increases.

Super bearish but... intriguing. If that would be the case I could buy new loads of ammo.

Nobody except some true HODLers are expecting 50-100-200 or 300K a coin as well so going that high will be very unexpected for the world as well....

As most of the NO-coiners or people not knowing BTC are exactly expecting low prices or failure...

So sky high prices will be the unexpected

Now go and troll some rookie-newbie threads or something, in here people like you has no voice

You're attacking people who are very much on topic, have legitimate views on the topic, behave in a polite manner and have several years seniority over you.

ignored

You can ignor me too

[El duderino_]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg52598830#msg52598830

^
Just see what this fatman3001 loser is hoping to achieve

request a perma ban for infofront

just Wow why is he even posting in here ?? #I hope to be on your ignore list you dumb f*ck

[bitcoinPsycho]

So sky high prices will be the unexpected

Now go and troll some rookie-newbie threads or something, in here people like you has no voice

Hmmm. Looks like you're the "newbie" around here which would explain your discomfort at bearish predictions which go against the run of prevailing hype. Not saying it "will" happen, just pointing out that it's what longer term charts predict, it's what's happened before and it's what all the hopium in here isn't expecting = ergo, it has at least an even to fair chance of occurring

Big deal . Many of us here have had an old account hacked/lost.    Snob

[whiteboy420]

Starting to short after a 44% drop is about as smart as everything else you have said.

I am a simple man.

I see a Trend, i Trade it.


Ps: If you were Greta Thunberg, would you hate Bitcoin ?

Please let us know your entry point, leverage ratio and liquidation point.

current plan is to watch the 200DMA retest and quite likely short it. (depending on the tape)

[Fatman3001]

Heading towards $4k around October 2020. Forget the "halfing". It was priced in early - 1 year early - and profits got taken in the 12k "fakeout".

That's what bitcoin does folks - what you're not expecting.

New ATH around 2023, 2024, just at long term log charts have been predicting. Time between peaks increasing as marketcap increases.

Super bearish but... intriguing. If that would be the case I could buy new loads of ammo.

Nobody except some true HODLers are expecting 50-100-200 or 300K a coin as well so going that high will be very unexpected for the world as well....

As most of the NO-coiners or people not knowing BTC are exactly expecting low prices or failure...

So sky high prices will be the unexpected

Now go and troll some rookie-newbie threads or something, in here people like you has no voice

You're attacking people who are very much on topic, have legitimate views on the topic, behave in a polite manner and have several years seniority over you.

ignored

You can ignor me too

done

[El duderino_]

So sky high prices will be the unexpected

Now go and troll some rookie-newbie threads or something, in here people like you has no voice

Hmmm. Looks like you're the "newbie" around here which would explain your discomfort at bearish predictions which go against the run of prevailing hype. Not saying it "will" happen, just pointing out that it's what longer term charts predict, it's what's happened before and it's what all the hopium in here isn't expecting = ergo, it has at least an even to fair chance of occurring

I don't mind being much newer as you, really not ...i'm also in BTC only from when it was recovering from its long bearmarket and I entered the market around 350-ish $

I also do know i'm nothing of a tech advanced thinker, speaker around BTC and so on .... I do know I will have among the strongest hands that can be and I have the long term belief, so whatever happens i'm in and I stay in, imo thats the most important, I also have some coin on the side to use in daily things where and when I can ...

Though I don't mind bearish thought and thinking, maybe I was out of line a bit with my answer (post)
But I think there is a member with a similar name as yours that really trolls, so I do think I made a mistake if thats the case ... again excuse me.

[Gyrsur]

Forget the "halfing". It was priced in early - 1 year early - and profits got taken in the 12k "fakeout".

this is nonsense, btw. demand and supply. if demand will be at the same level after halving event like it is now supply will be half of the level after halving because production of BTC will be reduced by 50%. this cannot be "priced in" as of now.



it is right that some news can be "priced in" because they have a psychological effect on the habits of human beeings (e.g. Bakkt announcement - "buy the rumours, sell the news"). but hard facts will take effect at the moment the effect occurs or shortly after. the two halving events of the past are good examples.

[toknormal]

so I do think I made a mistake if thats the case ... again excuse me.

Ok, I also apologise for any adverse sentiment in that case and will remove my dismissive post of you above.

Very gracious of you.