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Question: Sept. 21 Closing Price:
$0 - 3 (2.9%)
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$8,000-$8,500 - 1 (1%)
$8,500-$9,000 - 2 (1.9%)
$9,000-$9,500 - 5 (4.9%)
$9,500-$10,000 - 6 (5.8%)
$10,000-$10,500 - 22 (21.4%)
$10,500-$11,000 - 20 (19.4%)
$11,000-$11,500 - 19 (18.4%)
$11,500-$12,000 - 6 (5.8%)
>$12,000 - 8 (7.8%)
>$20,000 - 6 (5.8%)
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August 26, 2019, 01:17:38 AM

But it takes the fun out of it when you do it like that. People are also addicted to the adrenaline. (You know doing non ethical stuff in secret with the fears of getting caught)

There is, as they say, that.

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*btw I am single. I am free to do these stuff. Don't make it personal. I am talking in general. These stuff happen every day. Don't tell me every marriage in the world is honest. Most of them isn't.

Oh sure. And since we change our entire body molecular structure every 5 years it's pretty insane to assume the person you have now is the same one as 10 years ago. Things change.

(Yes, this is why people freeze just their heads. Who gives a damn about the body, it's going to be replaced in 5 years anyway. Fuck it)
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so 10,000 years from now some dude drops your brain into a MemoSeed Blitztractokator (tm) machine. which basically is a blender with some chemicals and nano tech tossed in. he blends your brain to a fine puree, the tech absorbs the memories, and stores them so AI can look for seed phrases. your brain goes to the compost pile. profit?


Sure. The trick is how it's stored in my brain, and for that you really need to boot the whole thing up. And hell, if it doesn't work it's not like I'm going to do better just dying. I like to give people incentive.

And if it's that much of a crap-sack universe that they won't honor a deal then I really don't want to be there.

(Plus if they're uploading my brain to a simulation you can bet your ass that my security memories will try to buffer overflow their system and take over. Given how lazy people are with security this is not a big problem :-)
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August 26, 2019, 01:21:49 AM

Nice little pump tonight, figure well slide down to 10,200 and bump right back up, I might put some skin in the game on that feeling, if the buy order doesn't fill then good.
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so 10,000 years from now some dude drops your brain into a MemoSeed Blitztractokator (tm) machine. which basically is a blender with some chemicals and nano tech tossed in. he blends your brain to a fine puree, the tech absorbs the memories, and stores them so AI can look for seed phrases. your brain goes to the compost pile. profit?


Sure. The trick is how it's stored in my brain, and for that you really need to boot the whole thing up. And hell, if it doesn't work it's not like I'm going to do better just dying. I like to give people incentive.

(Plus if they're uploading my brain to a simulation you can bet your ass that my security memories will try to buffer overflow their system and take over. Given how lazy people are with security this is not a big problem :-)
The fuck am I reading, is this some knock off star trek black mirror shit? This goofey shit deserves a merit.
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August 26, 2019, 01:30:37 AM

The fuck am I reading, is this some knock off star trek black mirror shit? This goofey shit deserves a merit.

If I'm really going to freeze my head I want to have wealth in the future that's not dependent on crap like banks. Thus I'll memorize a seed word for a wallet, and a separate one for a 10btc prize to the person who revives me.

If the world is as cool as I want it to be, in a thousand years entire bitcoins will be so rare that people will spend the time and money to revive me for that 10btc of virgin corn. Thus the deal. If not then I really don't want to live there.

If they're crap-sack enough to steal my bitcoins despite the offer of a deal I really don't want to live there, so dying is fine.

If they upload my brain to a simulator to get my keys then as long as the simulator is cool I'm ok with that. If it's a crap-sack simulator then I will do my best to hack it and turn it into something a lot more fun.

Hm....
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August 26, 2019, 01:40:16 AM
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We need to get these kikes arrested and locked up using "book publishers" as a criminal front for bribing members of congress and senate.  Ever notice every moron in govt has lucrative book deals that NOBODY reads from Hillary Clinton to every other piece of shit?  It's because the kikes are using the publishers as fronts for their Jeffrey Epstein-style, criminal bribery operation.  You just hand one of these fucktards $250,000 and they spend the rest of their lives shilling for infinite wars in the middle east for Jews:

https://dailystormer.name/zionist-cyclops-dan-crenshaw-is-actually-much-worse-than-turkroach-hasan-piker/

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August 26, 2019, 02:35:53 AM

Well you seem to be touching on two different topics, Raja.  

One topic is regarding how much of the value of your BTC stash would you be willing to trade with, and another topic is what kinds of indicators you use to decide whether to get in or out.

This is how I see any trade or swinging: if there's a good indicator, trade with a big stash; however, if there's a bad or weak indicator, trade with a little stash.

That is not necessarily bad logic - even though I personally believe that you got the facts a little bit wrong, at least in terms of using changes in the relative size of market cap as if it were a good indicator...   It's like you are just looking for an excuse to get into shit coins, and as if you want to gamble with your money. 

I doubt anyone is going to stop you here from your gambling inclinations.... hahahahahaha.. but at least, like you said, it is not a really BIG portion of your stash., even though it seems like too much to me, especially if you seem to be in your BTC stash accumulation phase, which seems to be the case based on your asserted BTC stash size.


Each of those are individualistic determinations, and I will let you know that I have a pretty decent proportion of my wealth in bitcoin as compared with my traditional investments (such as stocks and things like that), and I also have a very tiny percent into shitcoins.  So only about 1% - maybe 2% upon favorable fluctuations, is in shit coins, and I find little to no value in trading any kind of shit coins.

Well, 10% of my whole BTC stash doesn't even make a complete half of a full bitcoin, so there's definitely a whole lot of difference in your way of thinking and in my way of thinking when it comes to the "percentage of BTC holding that you may risk on sh!tcoins". If my 10% holdings of BTC were equivalent to more than $50k or something, I'd probably not be thinking of risking much in alts as I know that they're similar to leveraged gambling; however, when that 10% makes less than $5k, I think it's fine to just go ahead and risk it as it's not a very big amount, especially when the swing setup is looking quite strong (at least to me).

Again, it seems to me that your mind is kind of made up, and you really want to gamble and you are convinced that you have yourself some decent indicators, so you might be correct that it is best to learn how to balance for yourself, rather than just accepting the conservatism of other peeps on the interwebs, like me.

So, maybe in the end, you will be correct, and you will make more money than I expected, even though I  believe that what you are saying is too risky, whether you are saying that 10% is only $500 or $5,000 or $50k....   To me, it seems that you are in an accumulation phase, and you are engaging in gambling because you believe that you can build your BTC faster if you engage in a kind of timed risk... and sure, maybe you end up being correct, even if I would be more inclined towards more prudence and maybe only taking a lower percentage to play with. 

Furthermore, if you have only been in BTC since about the time of your registration, it has taken you a decently long time to build your BTC stash to the level that it is, currently, and various forms of dollar cost averaging, buying on dips and things like that would probably be better than wasting time and energies dabbling in shitcoins... but whatever, do what you are gonna do.



During shitcoin pumpening season in 2017, there were guys (and maybe even a gal or two) who were putting nearly all of their bitcoins into shitcoins, and they did pretty decently (on paper) as long as they figured out a good time to get out.  Some of them got burned too, because they could not figure out when to get out, so yeah, Raja, your suggestion that this is a good time to get into shitcoins based on expectations about market cap, might work out for you, but I personally believe that shit coin purging is going to continue for a quite a bit longer, but hey, I might be wrong, and surely there are a lot of arguments out there, currently, that alt coin pumpening season is coming is coming is coming, and yeah they might be right.. but then again, they might be desperately attempting to save their bag holdings of shit to stop bleeding so much, even though their bleeding is not yet close to being done.    

We probably will never get to see another altseason as good as the one of 2017, which especially includes the bull runs of all those low-caps that pumped 1000x and more in January 2018. Even if you take a look at the top 5 coins (by market-cap), it's quite funny that:

-Ethereum: still no scaling, no sharding, no PoS, no 2.0.
-Ripple: lol, centralized
-Bitcoin Cash: lol, fake
-Litecoin: almost every sh!tcoin got more Github commits than LTC in the last few years.
-Binance Coin: overvalued, will probably also be categorized as security in the US as it fits in every category of Howey test.

So, yeah, you end up investing in shit, and if you go further down the list, they don't really get better, so yeah, sure they can pump, but jeez, why even bother getting scammed out of a portion of your 10% when you can focus on bitcoin and figure out ways to play within bitcoin without getting distracted by meaningless scammy nonsense?  As you seem to recognize, somewhat.

...so ultimately, you come back to BTC. However, when you open and look at Bakkt's official website, you notice that everywhere they've mentioned "digital assets", which makes you realize that the crypto story doesn't really end up on BTC (I know this is quite irrelevant to this thread as it's made specifically for BTC maximalists, but this is just my opinion Grin).

I think what you say is relevant in this context.  You are saying that because some stupid-ass traditional financial institutions are wanting to go beyond bitcoin, therefore, it is worth it for you  to diversify into crap (even if only short term?)  Why the fuck do you believe that coinbase had been offering various index (or crypto packages) or whatever they were calling them?  Does not mean that they know anything, but it certainly means that they can make more on fees if they bundle cryptos together.

There are a lot of smart people who are structuring their businesses like dumbasses because they are trying to diversify (or dilute) their bitcoin focus with crap, so yeah, you want to use that as a justification because you know that there is pumpening power.. and maybe the pumpening will happen with some alts and maybe it will not... but that does not mean that you invest 10% of your bitcoin value based on such speculation.

I would say once you build your BTC stash to something that you feel is going to sustain you, then at that point maybe you could shave off a little bit of BTC for alt coin gambling, and it does not even need to be 10%, unless you really feel that you have some kind of solid scoop beyond the scoop that you are currently feeling, which is mere changes in BTC market dominance and the fact that some smart people (or institutions) are talking positively about shitcoins.


When it comes to shitcoins, I am nearly a total chicken shit, so likely I am not the right person to ask regarding any of them, because even during their outrageous pumpening in 2017, I remained sufficiently happy with my mediocre 78x return on bitcoin value (from 2015 to late 2017).

"mediocre" 78x return Tongue

If you recall during the boom in 2017, and probably even started somewhat in 2016, there were a lot of shitcoin pumpers including those in ethereum and some of the varlous altcoins that were making fun of BTC because BTC's returns were less than theirs... especially during certain periods of time, but I am not sure if those shittalkers were able to get in and out of their investment before their performance went to the toilet, especially relative to bitcoin.  A lot of them just kept hanging onto their shitcoin, so bitcoin ended up passing them up greatly, and even bitcoin did not have the various scams attached to it, either, so usually it was easier to get out of bitcoin if needed, as compared with getting locked into some of the various shitcoins that became even harder to get out of when they started to tank.
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August 26, 2019, 02:39:58 AM

While Trump is crying a river over bitcoin, a small european country accepts it to buy shares:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-belarus-cryptocurrency/belarus-allows-traders-to-buy-shares-with-bitcoin-idUSKCN1P91VZ

As time passes, nation-states will see the value of bitcoin and will adopt it. No FUD will stop the flood.


Have not been hearing a lot about this, even though the article that you linked was from January.. so 8 months later, there should be newer developments regarding how those various announcements from January are playing out, no?
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yeah but from whom are you stealing the quotes... ?

Attributions should be included with quotes.. not only is it NOT courteous to the original author, it is against forum rules to plagiarize  (admittedly this is a more ambiguous form of plagiarizing because at least it appears that you are implying that the quotes are not yours, due  to the fact that they are within an image)...




See above.

Actually something IRL recently happened to me (more with two friends of me), not gonna get into it cause it was a NON happy event for them....

But we have a Whats app group and one of them just threw in those quotes, I also don't know where they are from, but I did like the lines that I read !!!!

I like the quotes, too, and probably, it would be good if you said something like that in your post, in order to make it a bit more clear that you are not trying to take credit for the contents, because some people could get mislead into thinking that you made the posts and also it is just a way better practice to give attribution when quoting someone else or just to say that you don't know.. just to be clear... even if you happen to be in a rush...it is part of the responsibility of non-troll posters, in my thinking.
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August 26, 2019, 02:50:11 AM

If I am dead, I want to stay dead. 

Leave me alone, k thnx
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August 26, 2019, 02:50:14 AM

Bitcorn is rising.
Rick is asking me "Why, Bob ?"
I have no answer.


There has been a kind of pattern after the close of the weekly candle, that the pamp comes soon thereafter.

Has been a seeming pattern since about April 1.. if not before that... but whatever, who really knows?
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There has been a kind of pattern after the close of the weekly candle, that the pamp comes soon thereafter.

Has been a seeming pattern since about April 1.. if not before that... but whatever, who really knows?

but odds, frankly say, are still around 50/50 ? Grin
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August 26, 2019, 05:10:27 AM
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Observing nice, refreshing tweets:



https://twitter.com/nic__carter/status/1165763937100599297

Sometimes it is nice to go back to the basics.
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Tonight we had an ignition test, at any time we can start the trip, stay tuned to their screens.

Good flight fillippone
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August 26, 2019, 06:15:42 AM

BTC is following gold too much lately. Doesn't that bother you guys? I miss the days where bitcoin was moving independently, freely. Now gold goes up 1%, btc follows with 5%. Maybe it really became digital gold, digital
Store of value...
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August 26, 2019, 06:25:19 AM

as some of you may know, I am searching for not empty wallets where the private key is known. yesterday I found a wallet with a new transaction: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1C1Ni48UreLnVLkA9AYoTK9L7W4nsox734

it looks like an dust attack. it's only 0.00000588 btc and it was there for 5 hours until it was transfered to another wallet.
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https://twitter.com/MustStopMurad/status/1165381843698561024

Their predictions sometimes go on the wrong side, but in these closures of triangles in different cycles the direction seems accurate.

BTCullish.
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Immortality, Cryogenics and UBI: How The Crypto Rich Influence Science

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The rise of cryptocurrency is changing the philanthropic world by causing the redistribution of wealth from old money to visionary innovators and early tech adopters. The new crypto rich invest their donations by supporting scientific research in groundbreaking fields that may one day enable humanity to cure aging, reverse death and completely change the relationship between work and income.

https://news.bitcoin.com/immortality-cryogenics-and-ubi-how-the-crypto-rich-influence-science/

Don't spend everything on girls and lambos, also keep some BTC for this. Cheesy
I'm kicking this one around but man Alcor and others have a bit of a professionality problem to overcome.

As I said, if I'm frozen like this I want "This person has the passphrase for 20 bitcoins memorized. Revive me, You get half" etched on my container. If the world comes where that is an incentive to revive me then I *really* want to live there.

Immortality, Cryogenics and UBI: How The Crypto Rich Influence Science

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The rise of cryptocurrency is changing the philanthropic world by causing the redistribution of wealth from old money to visionary innovators and early tech adopters. The new crypto rich invest their donations by supporting scientific research in groundbreaking fields that may one day enable humanity to cure aging, reverse death and completely change the relationship between work and income.

https://news.bitcoin.com/immortality-cryogenics-and-ubi-how-the-crypto-rich-influence-science/

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I'm kicking this one around but man Alcor and others have a bit of a professionality problem to overcome.

As I said, if I'm frozen like this I want "This person has the passphrase for 20 bitcoins memorized. Revive me, You get half" etched on my container. If the world comes where that is an incentive to revive me then I *really* want to live there.

And then you wake up in a torture chamber because they want your key....

As I said, if I'm frozen like this I want "This person has the passphrase for 20 bitcoins memorized. Revive me, You get half" etched on my container. If the world comes where that is an incentive to revive me then I *really* want to live there.

they dont have to revive you. just your memories.

so 10,000 years from now some dude drops your brain into a MemoSeed Blitztractokator (tm) machine. which basically is a blender with some chemicals and nano tech tossed in. he blends your brain to a fine puree, the tech absorbs the memories, and stores them so AI can look for seed phrases. your brain goes to the compost pile. profit?



Definitely my last transaction will be for the field of cryogenization.
For now the only alternatives we have is to become dust or ashes, I'm not interested.
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August 26, 2019, 08:55:31 AM

BTC is following gold too much lately. Doesn't that bother you guys? I miss the days where bitcoin was moving independently, freely. Now gold goes up 1%, btc follows with 5%. Maybe it really became digital gold, digital
Store of value...

That's a good thing when the financial crisis is around the corner. That means that investors are seeking the safe haven, in this case gold and bitcoin. Also bitcoin outperforming gold is a good thing too. So it doesn't bother me in occasions like this. Maybe it would bother me in a different times. But now we should be happy and excited  Smiley
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BTC is following gold too much lately. Doesn't that bother you guys? I miss the days where bitcoin was moving independently, freely. Now gold goes up 1%, btc follows with 5%. Maybe it really became digital gold, digital
Store of value...

That's a good thing when the financial crisis is around the corner. That means that investors are seeking the safe haven, in this case gold and bitcoin. Also bitcoin outperforming gold is a good thing too. So it doesn't bother me in occasions like this. Maybe it would bother me in a different times. But now we should be happy and excited  Smiley

I have no problem with that as long as btc keeps its own price/supply/demand dynamics. (Like halvening, bear/consolidation/bull cycles etc...) If it is going to follow gold and gold only, then we will have a problem.
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