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September 28, 2019, 09:25:31 PM

Well not really sure if I have mental health issues.
But I do know that watching a lovely, mostly silent restoration video (preferably with sandblasting) is quite therapeutic.
Shrinks should prescribe the links.  (ha ha ...that rhymes....how quaint...)
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September 28, 2019, 09:46:52 PM

Mental illness is a very real bag of shit, and drugs are very powerful tools in mitigating symptoms, hopefully allowing for a "more normal" life. I can't remember if I've ever admitted to the thread or not, but mental illness awareness is one of the causes I support; suffering from depression and anxiety myself. Better living through chemistry. I recognize I will be on prescribed benzos and SSRIs for the rest of my natural life, because I got dealt a shitty genetic hand, that we can trace back three generations.

Have you read about microdosing psychedelic drugs to treat depressions? Funny that a drug that causes madness in high doses do cure madness in low doses. There are many sites about microdosing, just google it if you want to know more.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/may/03/psychedelic-drugs-women-taking-tiny-doses-hattie-garlick
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September 28, 2019, 09:48:44 PM

If we are at the point where the general populace needs to be drugged up just to be functional, it's time for a hard reset.
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September 28, 2019, 09:52:52 PM
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Well not really sure if I have mental health issues.
But I do know that watching a lovely, mostly silent restoration video (preferably with sandblasting) is quite therapeutic.
Shrinks should prescribe the links.  (ha ha ...that rhymes....how quaint...)

A lot of the youtube machinists have recently gotten into old timey reciprocating machine tools, shapers and planers.

I find these videos equally relaxing so I know what you're talking about there.
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September 28, 2019, 09:54:32 PM

Antidepressants are evil.

If I have a religion, it is my belief in the immutability of the laws of thermodynamics.  I believe they apply beyond the material plane.

There is no free lunch.  All equations will balance.  Joy has no meaning without sorrow.

Any attempt to circumvent pain will be ultimately futile.  Attempting to borrow happiness from the future is ill advised.

So you are saying that one should hit oneself in the head with a hammer because it feels so good when one stops?

This is literally something almost every civilicised human does.
So i guess he meant that knowing (even remembering) that it hurts brings joy by becoming aware how good it feels NOT to hit yourself in the head.
Right?

I disagree. Of course you can feel joy without first feeling pain.
The receptors/signaling substances that make you feel good are not depending on the receptors/substances for negative feelings to work. (if you see what I mean, I simplify)
It's two different things.
I very seldom feel bad, and when i do it's all natural feelings, like when I think of my first cat that died 15 years ago, those memories still bring a tear to my eyes. But I feel quite joyful a lot of times. Most of the times however is a just a normal state of  wellbeing or inbetween or whatever you want to call it.

EDIT: no, civilized citizens do not gather in groups and hit each other in the head, nor do they do it in the privacy of their own home, at least not in my country, if they do in your's please post video.
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September 28, 2019, 09:55:59 PM
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I hear you guys. I had to tone down my caffeine addiction.

Pepsi Max is a bitch

so there. I have shared .

Fatman feels left out
Hopes being a dick will help
Fails miserably

Now he just needs to tone down a few more addictions.  Cheesy

1. bitching and complaining addiction

2. big blocker addiction

3. tard tendencies addiction

4. communism addiction

5. shitcoin addiction
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September 28, 2019, 10:00:28 PM

If we are at the point where the general populace needs to be drugged up just to be functional, it's time for a hard reset.

and that's what's the problem: We're taught to function, no matter what.
No functionality = no happiness. Unless you accept yourself as nonfunctional (or else: non beneficial for your society).
Then you feel sorry for the ones still trying to function. no matter what.
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Antidepressants are evil.

If I have a religion, it is my belief in the immutability of the laws of thermodynamics.  I believe they apply beyond the material plane.

There is no free lunch.  All equations will balance.  Joy has no meaning without sorrow.

Any attempt to circumvent pain will be ultimately futile.  Attempting to borrow happiness from the future is ill advised.

So you are saying that one should hit oneself in the head with a hammer because it feels so good when one stops?

This is literally something almost every civilicised human does.
So i guess he meant that knowing (even remembering) that it hurts brings joy by becoming aware how good it feels NOT to hit yourself in the head.
Right?

I disagree. Of course you can feel joy without first feeling pain.
The receptors/signaling substances that make you feel good are not depending on the receptors/substances for negative feelings to work. (if you see what I mean, I simplify)
It's two different things.
I very seldom feel bad, and when i do it's all natural feelings, like when I think of my first cat that died 15 years ago, those memories still bring a tear to my eyes. But I feel quite joyful a lot of times. Most of the times however is a just a normal state of  wellbeing or inbetween or whatever you want to call it.

EDIT: no, civilized citizens do not gather in groups and hit each other in the head, nor do they do it in the privacy of their own home, at least not in my country, if they do in your's please post video.

Of course not.
I meant that people are "using" pain to get attention by others, which makes them feel good (better) again.
They even hurt themselves by trying sooo hard to achieve anything that is valued by others, sometimes even if they (might) die trying.
We're highly dependent on attention since the day we were born, that's why we are able to cry right after birth. Or most of us, at least.
The trick is to recognize and overcome this habit and give attention to ourselves, starting to discover what we really need.

EDIT: This gets too ethical. We need some price action...

EDIT2: Anyway, i'm off for sleep now.
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September 28, 2019, 10:42:15 PM


I hear you guys. I had to tone down my caffeine addiction.

Pepsi Max is a bitch

so there. I have shared .

Fatman feels left out
Hopes being a dick will help
Fails miserably

Now he just needs to tone down a few more addictions.  Cheesy

1. bitching and complaining addiction

2. big blocker addiction

3. tard tendencies addiction

4. communism addiction

5. shitcoin addiction


agree with you @Lambie Slayer huge people have shitcoin addicted one have my friend same to thinking is very very bad so. no shitcoin loved only bitcoin.
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September 28, 2019, 10:53:28 PM


I hear you guys. I had to tone down my caffeine addiction.

Pepsi Max is a bitch

so there. I have shared .

Fatman feels left out
Hopes being a dick will help
Fails miserably

Now he just needs to tone down a few more addictions.  Cheesy

1. bitching and complaining addiction

2. big blocker addiction

3. tard tendencies addiction

4. communism addiction

5. shitcoin addiction


agree with you @Lambie Slayer huge people have shitcoin addicted one have my friend same to thinking is very very bad so. no shitcoin loved only bitcoin.

Yes, it takes a lot of education to prevent people from falling into these addictions. I spent a lot of time years ago convincing my younger brother to invest in Bitcoin.  He was convinced it was the future and invested in his first coins. I was proud of him and figured mission accomplished.

A few weeks later he is telling me his Bitcoins are up in value but he is really happy with how well his litecoins and ether are doing so he just bought more of them Shocked Sad

I realized I had been so busy educating him on Bitcoin I had not prepared him to avoid the seduction of shitcoins. I told him to sell them immediately and be glad he had profited bc they would go to shit soon enough. He did not sell until many months later they had crashed and he lost money on them. He is now a maximalist bc I kept hammering home the dangers of shitcoins, but I should had taken more preventative measures.



I see we had a bit of a pump that fizzled out so far. Better than a dump though.
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September 28, 2019, 10:55:43 PM

Seeing the PlanB tweet:



and reviewing "The Shorts" gives me some peace of mind that they are closing them, it can be an indication of a tenuous lateralization or market recovery.

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agree with you @Lambie Slayer huge people have shitcoin addicted one have my friend same to thinking is very very bad so. no shitcoin loved only bitcoin.

Yes, it takes a lot of education to prevent people from falling into these addictions. I spent a lot of time years ago convincing my younger brother to invest in Bitcoin.  He was convinced it was the future and invested in his first coins. I was proud of him and figured mission accomplished.

A few weeks later he is telling me his Bitcoins are up in value but he is really happy with how well his litecoins and ether are doing so he just bought more of them Shocked Sad

I realized I had been so busy educating him on Bitcoin I had not prepared him to avoid the seduction of shitcoins. I told him to sell them immediately and be glad he had profited bc they would go to shit soon enough. He did not sell until many months later they had crashed and he lost money on them. He is now a maximalist bc I kept hammering home the dangers of shitcoins, but I should had taken more preventative measures.


I see we had a bit of a pump that fizzled out so far. Better than a dump though.

Firstly needed strong decision of mentality bitcoin not short term it may be long term fact, shitcoin given profited some time other hand losses money huge. my personal opinion trader or holder needed follow top 20coin and about her history .
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September 28, 2019, 11:10:26 PM

If you know #Bitcoin's history you knows that now is just a waiting game. These fluctuations above and below $10k are small ripples before the next big wave. When the next wave hits I expect BTC to be over $100,000. Buy and #HODL.
Source: https://twitter.com/Bitcoinlife2012/status/1177902755907719170

same  to like her opinion what thinking about?
#HODL  Smiley
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September 28, 2019, 11:12:21 PM

We seem to be... pumping

It seems I’m drunk cause missing a pump it seems...........
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September 28, 2019, 11:23:24 PM
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Seeing the PlanB tweet:



and reviewing "The Shorts" gives me some peace of mind that they are closing them, it can be an indication of a tenuous lateralization or market recovery.


I am not sure why would the green phase be so abortive in this bull run.
In 2016-2017 it lasted for more than a year.

In other words: I doubt that we are in the "orange" stage, but who knows.
Maybe, we are front-running the whole trend while we were behind the "true" trend in 2015-2016.
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September 28, 2019, 11:28:14 PM

The amount of cod science in this thread is too damn high.
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September 28, 2019, 11:28:54 PM

We seem to be... pumping

It seems I’m drunk cause missing a pump it seems...........
We.. were.



Can be ignored for now.
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September 28, 2019, 11:29:18 PM

Seeing the PlanB tweet:



and reviewing "The Shorts" gives me some peace of mind that they are closing them, it can be an indication of a tenuous lateralization or market recovery.


I am not sure why would the green phase be so abortive in this bull run.
In 2016-2017 it lasted for more than a year.

In other words: I doubt that we are in the "orange" stage, but who knows.
Maybe, we are front-running the whole trend while we were behind the "true" trend in 2015-2016.

He is absolutely right, although sometimes the times of the market are similar but with different circumstances, what was presented for 2015-2016 could be similar, but when analyzing it today the conditions can change the scenario, perhaps more participation, the issue of BAKKT ..
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September 28, 2019, 11:34:48 PM

The amount of cod science in this thread is too damn high.

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September 28, 2019, 11:56:29 PM


I hear you guys. I had to tone down my caffeine addiction.

Pepsi Max is a bitch

so there. I have shared .

Fatman feels left out
Hopes being a dick will help
Fails miserably

Now he just needs to tone down a few more addictions.  Cheesy

1. bitching and complaining addiction

2. big blocker addiction

3. tard tendencies addiction

4. communism addiction

5. shitcoin addiction


agree with you @Lambie Slayer huge people have shitcoin addicted one have my friend same to thinking is very very bad so. no shitcoin loved only bitcoin.

I don't agree with Lambie Slayer so you. If you were holding BTC or USD on bitfinex and opened a marging sell of any alts to BTC, you could have got more BTC.
If you don't have your own opinion, you could end like a bitch.
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