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Question: Sept. 21 Closing Price:
$0 - 3 (2.9%)
<$8,000 - 5 (4.9%)
$8,000-$8,500 - 1 (1%)
$8,500-$9,000 - 2 (1.9%)
$9,000-$9,500 - 5 (4.9%)
$9,500-$10,000 - 6 (5.8%)
$10,000-$10,500 - 22 (21.4%)
$10,500-$11,000 - 20 (19.4%)
$11,000-$11,500 - 19 (18.4%)
$11,500-$12,000 - 6 (5.8%)
>$12,000 - 8 (7.8%)
>$20,000 - 6 (5.8%)
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August 25, 2019, 09:31:46 PM

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-bombshell-libra-rivals-twitter-spats-hodlers-digest-aug-1925
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In news that’s likely to send a shiver down the spine of altcoin evangelists, new research suggests that Bitcoin’s (BTC) true market dominance may have been drastically underestimated. While mainstream crypto data aggregators claim the world’s biggest digital currency has a 70% slice of the market, analysts at Arcane Research believe BTC dominance is actually more than 90%. It says market capitalization is a “meaningless measure” when liquidity isn’t taken into account, and boffins used trading volume in order to make their recalculations.

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August 25, 2019, 09:32:03 PM

I would have sex with a feminine AI. But, they are too primitive at the moment.

Nocoiners are halting technological advancement. They fear the Machine Age.
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August 25, 2019, 09:34:53 PM

Australian equivalent of the BBC says that the government wants to ban cash to enforce negative interest rates on savers.

https://abc.net.au/news/2019-08-26/cash-ban-so-you-pay-the-bank-to-hold-your-money-what-imf-wants/11443646
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August 25, 2019, 09:36:14 PM

Well you seem to be touching on two different topics, Raja.  

One topic is regarding how much of the value of your BTC stash would you be willing to trade with, and another topic is what kinds of indicators you use to decide whether to get in or out.

This is how I see any trade or swinging: if there's a good indicator, trade with a big stash; however, if there's a bad or weak indicator, trade with a little stash.

Each of those are individualistic determinations, and I will let you know that I have a pretty decent proportion of my wealth in bitcoin as compared with my traditional investments (such as stocks and things like that), and I also have a very tiny percent into shitcoins.  So only about 1% - maybe 2% upon favorable fluctuations, is in shit coins, and I find little to no value in trading any kind of shit coins.

Well, 10% of my whole BTC stash doesn't even make a complete half of a full bitcoin, so there's definitely a whole lot of difference in your way of thinking and in my way of thinking when it comes to the "percentage of BTC holding that you may risk on sh!tcoins". If my 10% holdings of BTC were equivalent to more than $50k or something, I'd probably not be thinking of risking much in alts as I know that they're similar to leveraged gambling; however, when that 10% makes less than $5k, I think it's fine to just go ahead and risk it as it's not a very big amount, especially when the swing setup is looking quite strong (at least to me).

During shitcoin pumpening season in 2017, there were guys (and maybe even a gal or two) who were putting nearly all of their bitcoins into shitcoins, and they did pretty decently (on paper) as long as they figured out a good time to get out.  Some of them got burned too, because they could not figure out when to get out, so yeah, Raja, your suggestion that this is a good time to get into shitcoins based on expectations about market cap, might work out for you, but I personally believe that shit coin purging is going to continue for a quite a bit longer, but hey, I might be wrong, and surely there are a lot of arguments out there, currently, that alt coin pumpening season is coming is coming is coming, and yeah they might be right.. but then again, they might be desperately attempting to save their bag holdings of shit to stop bleeding so much, even though their bleeding is not yet close to being done.    

We probably will never get to see another altseason as good as the one of 2017, which especially includes the bull runs of all those low-caps that pumped 1000x and more in January 2018. Even if you take a look at the top 5 coins (by market-cap), it's quite funny that:

-Ethereum: still no scaling, no sharding, no PoS, no 2.0.
-Ripple: lol, centralized
-Bitcoin Cash: lol, fake
-Litecoin: almost every sh!tcoin got more Github commits than LTC in the last few years.
-Binance Coin: overvalued, will probably also be categorized as security in the US as it fits in every category of Howey test.

...so ultimately, you come back to BTC. However, when you open and look at Bakkt's official website, you notice that everywhere they've mentioned "digital assets", which makes you realize that the crypto story doesn't really end up on BTC (I know this is quite irrelevant to this thread as it's made specifically for BTC maximalists, but this is just my opinion Grin).

When it comes to shitcoins, I am nearly a total chicken shit, so likely I am not the right person to ask regarding any of them, because even during their outrageous pumpening in 2017, I remained sufficiently happy with my mediocre 78x return on bitcoin value (from 2015 to late 2017).

"mediocre" 78x return Tongue
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August 25, 2019, 09:36:30 PM

While Trump is crying a river over bitcoin, a small european country accepts it to buy shares:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-belarus-cryptocurrency/belarus-allows-traders-to-buy-shares-with-bitcoin-idUSKCN1P91VZ

As time passes, nation-states will see the value of bitcoin and will adopt it. No FUD will stop the flood.
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August 25, 2019, 09:39:00 PM

Australian equivalent of the BBC says that the government wants to ban cash to enforce negative interest rates on savers.

https://abc.net.au/news/2019-08-26/cash-ban-so-you-pay-the-bank-to-hold-your-money-what-imf-wants/11443646


Time to buy more corn.
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August 25, 2019, 09:48:14 PM

25 August 2015 was the final and darkest day of the 2014/15 crypto winter.




Today is 25 August 2019

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August 25, 2019, 09:49:33 PM


yeah but from whom are you stealing the quotes... ?

Attributions should be included with quotes.. not only is it NOT courteous to the original author, it is against forum rules to plagiarize  (admittedly this is a more ambiguous form of plagiarizing because at least it appears that you are implying that the quotes are not yours, due  to the fact that they are within an image)...




See above.

Actually something IRL recently happened to me (more with two friends of me), not gonna get into it cause it was a NON happy event for them....

But we have a Whats app group and one of them just threw in those quotes, I also don't know where they are from, but I did like the lines that I read !!!!

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August 25, 2019, 09:54:58 PM

They are both K-selected. Trump more than his english counterpart. Incidentally so is Putin, Theodore Roosevelt, Eisenhower and, to some degree, Hitler. This is why they get along, and why the left all hate them.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/camestrosfelapton.wordpress.com/2017/11/04/weird-internet-ideas-rk-and-the-far-right/amp/

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IQ is inversely related to size of genitals.

I lol'd when they mentioned that part of the idea somehow wasn't quite as adopted among the alt-right as the other stuff.
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August 25, 2019, 09:57:02 PM
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OT: Greizmann! What a show.

micg: interesting quotes...

That r/K "discussion" is mostly rubbish:

1. It only works at a species OR even higher level (fish vs mammals, for example), NOT at the level of individual families.
2. Just one example: Benjamin Franklin had 16 brothers and sisters, yet he was a very distinguished individual, no doubt.


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August 25, 2019, 10:00:07 PM

OT: Greizmann! What a show.

micg: interesting quotes...



Indeed what a show (needed as well after the first game)

And THX Smiley
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August 25, 2019, 10:04:50 PM

Another Haiku
But probably lame again
Now into HODLsleep
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Yeah but...bbut...how much "fighting" are we talking about here? Is he going to place tariffs on crypto transactions too? Lol

It's called tax. Or even worse he could ban it...  In America it would not be strange to put some absurd sentence on it like the death penalty.... America is a crazy country.... With a crazy leader....

Be careful what you wish for....

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micg: interesting quotes...




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August 25, 2019, 11:08:17 PM

25 August 2015 was the final and darkest day of the 2014/15 crypto winter.




Today is 25 August 2019



We seem to be less volatile on a daily basis than in 2015.
Funny, I was watching GBTC back then and noticed the reduction in premium (to NAV) on either 18th or 25th, but somehow did not pull the trigger in IRAs.
Still don't know, why, it just happened...I guess I was expecting an ETF soon (not waiting for it any longer).
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August 26, 2019, 12:17:13 AM
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August 26, 2019, 12:42:49 AM

Bitcorn is rising.
Rick is asking me "Why, Bob ?"
I have no answer.
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August 26, 2019, 12:50:43 AM

Lately pamps have come right before trade war developments make headlines. Another area Bitcoin demonstrates superiority over other assets is for govy officials across the globe to trade on news they are privy to before everyone else.

This is a great thing imo, makes govy boyz more likely to lust after the precious and protect it.

Bitcoin is da best, as usual.  Cheesy

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August 26, 2019, 12:52:55 AM
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Hello all.

Now, that Sunday Pump.
Brings thoughts of love from the Deep.
Straight into your Heart.

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August 26, 2019, 01:14:24 AM

Returns during the Trump presidency


That guy is a grade-A idiot.  Energy prices are artificially rigged low with things like the shale Ponzi as a form of helicopter money for economic stimulus.  Same thing with food.  When's the last time you heard of some guy becoming rich by farming corn?  Pretty much never.  More likely to go bankrupt by opening a farm than becoming rich because the ESF rigs commodities to fuck them over.
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