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Question: Price prediction for the May 21 weekly close:
<$20,000 - 7 (8.3%)
$20,000 - $22,000 - 0 (0%)
$22,000 - $24,000 - 2 (2.4%)
$24,000 - $26,000 - 3 (3.6%)
$26,000 - $28,000 - 7 (8.3%)
$28,000 - $30,000 - 12 (14.3%)
$30,000 - $32,000 - 18 (21.4%)
$32,000 - $34,000 - 8 (9.5%)
$34,000 - $36,000 - 6 (7.1%)
$36,000 - $38,000 - 3 (3.6%)
$38,000 - $40,000 - 2 (2.4%)
>$40,000 - 16 (19%)
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September 13, 2019, 12:52:51 PM

A very creepy story made me open a new thread:
Privacy at risk using mobile phones. Not only Bitcoin-related.

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Security researchers have disclosed today an SMS-based attack method being abused in the real world by a surveillance vendor to track and monitor individuals.

"We are quite confident that this exploit has been developed by a specific private company that works with governments to monitor individuals," security researchers from AdaptiveMobile Security said in a report released today.

"We believe this vulnerability has been exploited for at least the last 2 years by a highly sophisticated threat actor in multiple countries, primarily for the purposes of surveillance."

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Well sms has no encryption right? It's middle man attacks of some sort I'd guess?

This is a centralised, government induced, industrialised man in the middle attack: scale of operation scares me.

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September 13, 2019, 01:08:28 PM
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From time to time I post comments here from a contact that has some very close ties with high ups in the CCP. For anyone who is interested, Here is something I read from him today. His comment is in response to a recent macrovoices interview regarding China, trade deal, etc. And an article speculating on Chinas purported lack of dollar reserves.

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Listening now and almost fell off my seat laughing at the whole " Trump and Xi kiss and make up to get a trade deal" talk. It is such a western view and coming from someone living in Hong Kong, it is puzzling how he can miss the background for the current niceties...
1. 70th anniversary on Oct 1 is key to Xi. But dropping existing tariffs and removing some key elements from the talks are also import to the Chinese position. Trump may cave, it is always possible, but Xi can't (not won't, can't). A Xi back down now will spell the end for the CCP and expose all the mishandling of issues in the economy and ag sector.
2. I have always said there will be some element of trade, and the timing for the 'trade" concessions by China is amusing because based on USDA data I saw, a large harvest is underway with out any markets to take a large percentage of the crop output. So, if true, China won't be paying nosebleed levels for ag goods because the US needs a market. On the pork side, pay attention to the US export data (10,000 ton pork exports to China last month) not the Trump tweets. Most of these exports are from Smithfields (Chinese owned) and in carcase form not processed which means it is actually costing jobs in the sector in the US.
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September 13, 2019, 01:26:12 PM
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A very creepy story made me open a new thread:
Privacy at risk using mobile phones. Not only Bitcoin-related.

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Security researchers have disclosed today an SMS-based attack method being abused in the real world by a surveillance vendor to track and monitor individuals.

"We are quite confident that this exploit has been developed by a specific private company that works with governments to monitor individuals," security researchers from AdaptiveMobile Security said in a report released today.

"We believe this vulnerability has been exploited for at least the last 2 years by a highly sophisticated threat actor in multiple countries, primarily for the purposes of surveillance."

Tinfoilmode: ON.



Well sms has no encryption right? It's middle man attacks of some sort I'd guess?

This is a centralised, government induced, industrialised man in the middle attack: scale of operation scares me.



I'd rather call it a (government mandated) backdoor in GSM specs. And it is age old (in IT terms and literally):

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/23/white_hat_sim_hacker_disillusioned_and_dismayed_by_operator_response/


Edited to add: If you have an Apple or Android device you do not have to worry about this, they have already easier and better backdoors to come for you.
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September 13, 2019, 02:05:01 PM
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Obvious target mobile phones, what else goes with you everywhere you go and polls out at all times.

I leave it at home.

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September 13, 2019, 02:18:16 PM

From time to time I post comments here from a contact that has some very close ties with high ups in the CCP. For anyone who is interested, Here is something I read from him today. His comment is in response to a recent macrovoices interview regarding China, trade deal, etc. And an article speculating on Chinas purported lack of dollar reserves.

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Listening now and almost fell off my seat laughing at the whole " Trump and Xi kiss and make up to get a trade deal" talk. It is such a western view and coming from someone living in Hong Kong, it is puzzling how he can miss the background for the current niceties...
1. 70th anniversary on Oct 1 is key to Xi. But dropping existing tariffs and removing some key elements from the talks are also import to the Chinese position. Trump may cave, it is always possible, but Xi can't (not won't, can't). A Xi back down now will spell the end for the CCP and expose all the mishandling of issues in the economy and ag sector.
2. I have always said there will be some element of trade, and the timing for the 'trade" concessions by China is amusing because based on USDA data I saw, a large harvest is underway with out any markets to take a large percentage of the crop output. So, if true, China won't be paying nosebleed levels for ag goods because the US needs a market. On the pork side, pay attention to the US export data (10,000 ton pork exports to China last month) not the Trump tweets. Most of these exports are from Smithfields (Chinese owned) and in carcase form not processed which means it is actually costing jobs in the sector in the US.

This is significant info IMHO. Hard facts and numbers do hit eventually. Tweet or print as much as you may.
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September 13, 2019, 02:22:45 PM

-Lens free cameras
-Satellite resolution capable of face recognition and AI powered vehicle tracking
-Windows NSA backdoors to all PC in world
-Military industrial complex and ancient regime owns all bitcoins
-Rampant counterfeiting in Fortune 500 basement vaults and officially through Quantitative easing, organized crime counterfeiting on cartel scale, North korean superdollar the list goes on
-Buy out shut down emerging tech by overcapitalized mega caps, place in black box or sell to military to retain 20 year development gap from public

Crypto is not a solution as long as the fiat gateway is open to flood this industry with counterfeited cash, and even if it wasn't the establishment is already diversified in all other important sectors. Decentralized money may put an end to counterfeiting but it won't remove the millenia old hunting tribes/sovereigns that are operating a parallell civilzation.

What does crypto hope to accomplish except increased power concentration on masses? Sure, some privacy nodes maybe 0.1% of market size...people brought this on themselves and when they wake up they always go lynchmode or third reich etc.

Ca$h is like 5% of UHNI portfolio.

Serfs are free to forage up to $200k/year then the glass ceiling at level up, neo feudal. If you don't sell into the cause then money laundering/terrorism/wire fraud charges etc. And everybody sells into cause, crypto champions in 2017 fell like bricks, science and investor class fold over when rifle in face, always did. Mobile citizens militia powered by specific non subversible crypto maybe solution. Crypto kings building nations of gold without defense, gets immediately invaded.


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September 13, 2019, 02:26:31 PM
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Good morning Bitcoinland.

Still going sideways... currently $10317USD/$13646CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

I guess no news is good news.

Roach its about time for you to make your prodigal son's journey home to Bitcoin the almighty father of coins.

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You forgot the part where the devout Bitcoin-loving neighbors, jolly from a lifestyle of eating fatted calf and drinking fancy drinks daily (we won't name names) raised their glasses in laughter and rejoiced in the fact that maybe the silly twit had finally come to his senses.

Hallelujah!
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September 13, 2019, 02:43:47 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland.

Still going sideways... currently $10317USD/$13646CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

I guess no news is good news.

Weekend is ahead which may give some surprise to us,hopefully.

Don't forget to pray to the God to bring more bulls here. Grin
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September 13, 2019, 02:51:14 PM

Russian lawyers say they can recover 200,000 gox coins...only want 3/4 of them for their trouble...

https://cointelegraph.com/news/russian-lawyers-claim-200-000-btc-lost-in-mt-gox-can-be-recovered
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September 13, 2019, 02:54:47 PM

Don't forget to pray to the God to bring more bulls here. Grin

Don't worry. We've got lots of bulls (and fatted calves) here already.  Cool
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Don't forget to pray to the God to bring more bulls here. Grin

Don't worry. We've got lots of bulls (and fatted calves) here already.  Cool
I am talking about the Bitcoin land bulls. Kiss

Ohh no,it seems like bears wake up for this week end.Hopefully it won't reaches 4 digit figures. Sad
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September 13, 2019, 03:18:20 PM

Observing @~10300 since what feels like years I start to feel like this:

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September 13, 2019, 03:23:51 PM

Observing @~10300 since what feels like years I start to feel like this:



^ Nah, don't worry next week it should be like this. Just keep on holding.
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Observing @~10300 since what feels like years I start to feel like this:


Don't poke her FFS!!  Embarrassed
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September 13, 2019, 04:16:34 PM

Observing @~10300 since what feels like years I start to feel like this:


Don't poke her FFS!!  Embarrassed
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September 13, 2019, 04:38:23 PM

Obvious target mobile phones, what else goes with you everywhere you go and polls out at all times.

I leave it at home.


They always calls us paranoids until we are proved correct and then all you hear by then is "everyone already knew this". I never carried a electronic tracking device until recently when I have a need on occasion and when i had to be on call for work.


Russian lawyers say they can recover 200,000 gox coins...only want 3/4 of them for their trouble...

https://cointelegraph.com/news/russian-lawyers-claim-200-000-btc-lost-in-mt-gox-can-be-recovered


Fuck lawyers, the only time they have their hands in their own pockets is during a Blizzard.



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September 13, 2019, 04:40:22 PM
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#Bitcoin is the logical next step in money technology

Money = Speech

Better money, like better communication, will lead to better cooperation, more trade, more specialization and better capital allocation. Some countries, central banks and/or companies will  show leadership.

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https://twitter.com/100trillionusd/status/1172538585448374278?s=21
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September 13, 2019, 04:45:00 PM

How much do Miners earn per hour ?
Click to expand the infographic photo visualization:

BTC $14,197 per hour (more than Jeff Bezos earns)🤩

BCH  $6.85  per hour (less than minimum wage)😂

BSV  $6.44  per hour (less than minimum wage) 🤣

(Data from Bitinfocharts)

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https://twitter.com/cryptoscamhub/status/1172346097219584000?s=21

Made me laugh Cheesy
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September 13, 2019, 05:06:36 PM

GBTC premium is shrinking, currently "only" 27% or so.
Bitcoin ETF coming this year?
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September 13, 2019, 05:18:55 PM

@JJG

You should charge for these personal portfolio cashing out strategies.


Hahahahahaha

Yeah... some people make money engaged in such work.  

I suppose mine is kind of giving back.

There are a lot of folks in bitcoin who provide a lot of free services, at least in terms of attempting to spread quality information.  

I feel that I have personally benefited from the spreading of quality information by others, and surely if there are folks out there who are willing to do a bit of homework and brainstorming regarding their own situations, they can benefit from such free information on the interwebs and become stronger HODLers of bitcoin, because they are able to sort through their making of their plans which leads to carrying out of their plans, whether it happens to be their accumulation plan, their maintenance plan, their selling plan or some combination of the above.  Whatever stage of bitcoin(er) they happen to be.


+1 WOsMerit

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I mumbled a little bit on various themes we discussed on the WO thread lately.
 I posted this on a new thread:
Extracting stable positive return from high-volatile asset.HF recipe made simple

Hope you might find it useful.
It also gives hints on how to manage a selling program to exit bitcoin (for the degenerate WO members who aren't permaholders Wink...)

Good and simple read. Merit-worthy, but I'm dry.

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Thanks,
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O.k. You asked for it.

I am going to deliver to you my first WO merit.  +1 to you, fillippone.   Wink  (did you get it?  Can you feel the love of it?  no homo)



+1 WOsMerit


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Parsing through fojjg Thursday and had to merit these little gems.  The love is felt.


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Well..we have made it to the end of another week. Wish I was more motivated to push out some Wall reports but in all honesty I have been dealing with a bit of writers block. Nothing to worrisome but I feel like the quality of my posts have been sub optimal lately.

Some of the issue might be that bitcoin is doing 'what it's supposed to be doing at the moment'. If this is even a thing... /s  

Be a safe, secure store of value. The rest will follow.

Have a great weekend all.

Peace.

 
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