makrospex
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October 16, 2019, 08:47:47 PM |
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Freedom is not something due to us from the states, even first-word democracies. Freedom was a conquer, and it still is. States don't want anyone to be free from their influences, they would prefer to in control.
Seastanding is something about freedom, and so it is bitcoin.
Individual freedom is a threat to every authoritative system. In Austria, early this year, 24 members of the self called "state league" were arrested, because they didn't obey to the government. Many preppers amongst them, almost all with rightist political orientation. Groups like this were forbidden by law in the process of crushing it. I don't think freedom is possible easily on earth, at least it could become a nightmare without proper ethical rules, which in turn would not allow individuals to be really "free". There were some important psychological-ethical discussion that all came to the conclusion that freedom is impossible to achieve in societies, primarily because social relationships are based on dependencies. Also, love, for example, wouldn't be possible without (inter)dependency. Freedom or anarchy are not the absence of rules. All models of anarchy (I.e. chomsky's anarcho-syndacalism) require people to collaborate on the base of rules and common ethic. But you are free to left the society if you don't like the rules or you think they are not ethical. I'm not a tinyfoil hat type, but it's clear that we are going in the direction of governments regulating every aspect of life everywhere, they have the will and, for the first time in history, the means to do it. That's ok if I like the rules, but if I don't like them I have no place to go anymore. In an hundred years the word could become a totalitarian fascist state in a 1984-like fashion, all we need is a couple wars and people stop fighting for their freedom. Using btc you have rules (the protocol) which you have to agree if you want to participate, but you can refuse to use bitcoin or fork it if you don't like the rules. But you can't opt-out of state rules or fork the society, and this lead to criminality and conflicts. Elwar was basically forking, and we should be able to do it. Most likely (imho) governments are well aware of the ongoing eradication of the middle class. So it's either rich or poor in the future, and history has shown, that this constellation includes lots of risks for the establishment, and that's why the upper class has take measures to keep the lower class controlled. But as always in history, any movement in any "direction" of humanity or human society is followed by a countermovement. Times of rightist politics always were followed by leftist episodes, and vice versa. At the time we are on the way in the "right" direction, as counterswing to the "left" centuries after WW2. The discussions i was referring to were about psychological freedom, thus pure, unregulated freedom. Not necessarily comparable with anarchy or peace-love-unity and the likes. We saw what charles manson did to the latter, basically killed the dream, but being the symptom instead of the cause of the 1968's quick fade. Mankind also tends to repeat mistakes. |
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There are several different types of Bitcoin clients. The most secure are full nodes like Bitcoin Core, which will follow the rules of the network no matter what miners do. Even if every miner decided to create 1000 bitcoins per block, full nodes would stick to the rules and reject those blocks.
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JSRAW
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October 16, 2019, 08:49:33 PM |
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Trump : shez 3rd rate politician.....
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El duderino_
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October 16, 2019, 09:09:00 PM |
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 Mic, resisting of quoting the houseTROLL, but yes I did found him, still bouncing .... must be the missed out on BTC-syndrome |
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LFC_Bitcoin
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October 16, 2019, 09:12:42 PM |
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Mic, resisting of quoting the houseTROLL, but yes I did found him, still bouncing .... must be the missed out on BTC-syndrome  #preciousmetals  #blamethejews |
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SidETH
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October 16, 2019, 09:12:43 PM |
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Being bored with these prices...
What platform do you guys use to long bitcoin?
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xhomerx10
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October 16, 2019, 09:12:58 PM |
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Oh great! Now the Canadian military is going to be lead by scum who are beholden to American scum... or some such thing.  Is this election interference? I can't tell anymore. Buy Bitcoin! |
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El duderino_
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October 16, 2019, 09:38:16 PM |
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Ludwig Von
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October 16, 2019, 10:03:23 PM |
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Maybe in the end, we are on similar grounds when the vast majority of our BTC holdings is in the background in HODL status rather than playing around with it?
Yes. I don't even consider myself a trader, since it is a side activity - small stake and a small income - and I get out of trading for longish stretches of time. Same here, I even do not short-long positions, only limits, based on pure intuition, no TA, just looking at what the whole world is doing... . (Well advised by JJG about ladders up and down). 75% works out well, 25% fails. No point. BTC goes up, ADC sometimes goes up, sometimes goes down. All in all, no other investment would have returned what corn honeybadger did. But let 's not forget : it is unrealised profit as long as we live in a fiat world. (That is why I still hold significant in gold) Not to please Roach, be assured of that!  |
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Lambie Slayer
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October 16, 2019, 10:11:15 PM |
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... Stop dumping fellas.
Personally, I am not dumping any fellas. Are you implying, though, that it's raining men? Forgot to say no homo, my b.  |
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Lambie Slayer
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October 16, 2019, 10:12:35 PM |
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Thanks v8 , ed, mic, jjg, lfc, vapourminer, lambie , italian sttalion, jojo, vroom,nutilduh,Pamoldar, Hueristic, xhomer, info,mindrust and everyone. It means you too roachie  congrats |
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El duderino_
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October 16, 2019, 10:15:07 PM |
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Ludwig Von
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October 16, 2019, 10:25:46 PM |
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Dugh, it is just all their customers running to the exit... . |
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Ludwig Von
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October 16, 2019, 10:27:22 PM
Last edit: October 16, 2019, 10:38:32 PM by Ludwig Von |
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dodo, me too! With Ghent Chateau queen! |
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Gyrsur
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October 16, 2019, 10:38:26 PM
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dodo, met too! With Ghent Chateau queen! my Queen is waiting for me too. hmm some #HODLdeep.   #noconflict |
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g-uid
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October 16, 2019, 10:49:10 PM |
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Although published today, this video is dated but still quite interesting since it discusses assigning a value to Bitcoin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCRPVCxTpq0Gent at 12:40 has an interesting comparison between Bitcoin and the $100 bill. |
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jojo69
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October 16, 2019, 11:39:38 PM |
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I usually don't post charts, but I really like this one (copied from here), so I will post it  [/url][/img] I think it should be crystal clear that the next 24 hours are critical. Is that a Humboldt squid? |
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El duderino_
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October 16, 2019, 11:47:04 PM |
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